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I have done some searching but couldn't really find any good answers to my question.
I would like to know if it would be possible to have android honeycomb as the main boot os for my laptop which I would want to then link directly to my TV for the picture output.
Has anyone ever tried anything like this?
How do i go about it if it is possible, I have read about the android live CD boot for PC's but these look old, will they work for Honeycomb, and wouldn't it be better to have it directly running from the harddrive.
Another concern of mine is would honeycomb os on a PC use the mouse and keyboard inputs with no touchscreen being possible / available, and would the USB / cdrom, TV outputs, wireless and network cards etc all be recognised and useable by Honeycomb?
That's a very good idea, I'd like to know more about this
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For such purpose (Android as TV set top box) I would rather use some Hardware like i.e. BeagleBoard. There's also an Android port available (http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/) which is currently running FroYo. I'm sure there will also be Gingerbread, Honeycomb, etc. in the future.
I would rather not purchase new hardware if I don't need to. I have this laptop doing nothing and want to put it to use this way if possible.
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I would like to know the answer for this question too
i'm a fan of bigscreen
i plan to purchase acer iconia 6120 dual screen laptop if somehow i can manage to get honeycomb installed on standard laptop
or maybe later with windows 8
hmmm, yummy
I think Honeycomb still needs to use the touchscreen now and then, even with a keyboard and mouse. You might want to try Chrome OS, since that's designed for laptops.
err, acer iconia 6120 is a dual touchscreen laptop
you got laptop hardware but both touchscreen with virtual keyboard
thats why i brought up honeycomb, since its touch based
and windows 8 prolly in the future
Since a view weeks there is an Acer Aspire One with Win 7 Starter and Android as dualboot.
Maybe it is now possible to get Android on standard Notebooks?!
cu, Gurry
iam realy interessted in this, so umpup:
is it possible to run a honeycomb as main boot on a laptop? because why booting win and co if u just wanna check some emails, vistit some websites and i dont know ( yeah i know u can do this all with your smartphone, but wouldnt it be exiting to have it on your laptop too ? )
I have an old laptop and would love to have Android running on it, also my TV is running a customized version of Linux, i wonder if it would be possible to incorporate Android OS into it too. It's a Philips TV and some of their newer models are Android based.
Last weekend I got some Toshiba netbook (Nvidia Tegra chipset) on my hands running Froyo. A normal screen (no touch) and a keyboard just like normal netbooks. It was a pain in the a** to work with. I don't think Honeycomb will change that, since it's optimized for tablets. However, a combination of a touchscreen and a hardware keyboard would be nice, though.
Anyway, it should be possible to run Android on x86 devices, too, but I don't see any point for doing so. Why not just install Ubuntu?
i wouldnt mind using it but since i can only turn on my tv, its basically useless. it doesnt work with my centurylink prism box. there is an update in the market but cant update it.
anyone here using peel to its fullest?
I have set it up with no problem (HDTV, Satellite DVR and Stereo Reciever) but didn't find any real use for it. Its just so much easier to use the universal remote that came with my dish. Also while it turns everything on with one click it doesn't turn everything off, have to do them all seperately.
Peel is just horrid, completely lacks a learn function or a means of importing definitions. A decent ir app that used the transmitter built into the 7+would be great. Possibly a LIRC based app - that would open many doors.
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haven't use it at all... useless for me...
I use to use the Peel app before I got my 32" HDTV.
The only reason I don't use it now is because I would hate having to keep pressing input til it gets all the way down to hdmi 1.
Basically, it needs to be upgraded for the newer tvs.
Never used it...their support tells me that there is a bug with honeycomb and ir sensors. They said that the fix is ics and its up to Samsung to release it. Kind of a crumbly response if you're going to bundle a product and not support it.
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I used it with a Samsung tv and lg tv no problems,
It also works with a old Sony DVD player I have,
Can't get it to work with the dreambox but this could be due to the custom firmware on the box,
Future support for sky boxes would be great...
Nope. Haven't touched it and no plans to do so.
I tried it out when I first got by SGT7+ and it worked - sort of - with my Toshiba TV and DirecTV. I haven't used it since. Actually I find it more trouble than it's worth. The IR sensor was not one of the reasons I got my Tab and didn't even come into play with my decision-making process. I could live without it quite nicely.
Never.
I think it is totally useless. Even I have couple of devices, but never use. I still can't understand why Samsung spent money to put this.
I also tried setting it up but couldn't get it to work with my setup. I am using Windows Media Center on an HTPC and all I could get it to do was turn on the TV. I like the idea behind it, but making it compatible with so many different setups is difficult. It would be interesting if Logitech bought them and integrated it with their Harmony line.
There use to be a damn good ir controlling software back in my symbian days... Psiloc ir remote i think... Used to control bunch of stuff using it...
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edan1979 said:
There use to be a damn good ir controlling software back in my symbian days... Psiloc ir remote i think... Used to control bunch of stuff using it...
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If anyone with programming skills can help this guy out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357007
we might be able to do more with it..
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I use it when I'm too lazy to get the remote from wherever it was left last. I have a 2yr old LG TV and Dish DVR. Doesn't work with my 16 year old Sony home theatre.
Noob question, i dont understand why Windows os can run on allmost all computers and why Android roms does not ?
Because windows is a computer OS and Android is a mobile Os
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I mean why Android roms for example Cynaogenmode 9 for Samsung cant go also on HTC if im not wrong, but windows can run on all computer.. i just dont understand why ??, I'm just started new flashing roms ecc. I was used to the pc that was so simple.
Tauros360 said:
I mean why Android roms for example Cynaogenmode 9 for Samsung cant go also on HTC if im not wrong, but windows can run on all computer.. i just dont understand why ??, I'm just started new flashing roms ecc. I was used to the pc that was so simple.
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Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
aleranol said:
Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
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I dinnt understand well, butt why they cant do this also on smarphones, for example on the computer you got the Bios and if somthing goes wrong with your OS you can always go to the bios ecc. But why they dont do the same on phones ?
Windows : An OS : Runs on PCs
Android : Also an OS : Runs on smart phones
Some basic common sense..
So this question is pointless
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Because Windows os support x32 x64 and you can install drivers for your computer.
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DD-Ripper said:
Windows : An OS : Runs on PCs
Android : Also an OS : Runs on smart phones
Some basic common sense..
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Im started new flashing roms ecc. i still dont have much experience, first i thought that the Clockworkmode ecc was a smartphone Bios but then on the internet i read about many people briking phones by flashing wrong roms ecc. when i firs was thinking that you could always recover from Cwm like on the computer Bios but it was'n like this. So i was thinking, why ? there isnt something like a bios on the android phones ? so you can always recover if something goes wrong ?
actually this is an excellent question......whats so hard abt having a mothwrboard that boots up in bios....nad then it allows u to install whatever system u want. after that u get to download drivers for ur hardware from some system driver pool....basically most phones have the closely the same hardware in our days especially when u can make use of sd cards as an external source like dvds nd cds.....the question is why r smartphones os's built in a different way and what stops them from being composed this way? isnt it more logical?
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Im started new flashing roms ecc. i still dont have much experience, first i thought that the Clockworkmode ecc was a smartphone Bios but then on the internet i read about many people briking phones by flashing wrong roms ecc. when i firs was thinking that you could always recover from Cwm like on the computer Bios but it was'n like this. So i was thinking, why ? there isnt something like a bios on the android phones ? so you can always recover if something goes wrong ?
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Cwm=1/2bios. Windows is open for all part combination with drivers. But android or other mobile os are cant support different drivers. Companies select os and other parts and develop correct drivers for parts and os. Mobile devices have special drivers. But pcs are have open for all drivers.
This text hard for me because i m turk.
This is a fantastic question! Essentially what has happened over the years is chip makers have designed their hardware around the windows os, and they have been able to do so because the windows os is a boxed software that, for the most part, cannot be changed. The Android os on the other hand is open sourced and can be tweaked 10 ways to Sunday, which is why most of us prefer it over ios or win mobile. The downside (kind of) is that the phones and tablets are specifically designed around the os and the os around the device. So in order to upgrade the os either the manufacturer (Samsung, Motorola etc) has to develop one or one of the brilliant coders out there has to work on developing one from the source code when it is released by Google. Hope this helps.
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Great question, Many answers definitely.
Android OS are built around the phones, around specific devices.
For example:
GS3 and Note 2 are built on somewhat the same,
so odds are specific roms are ported to GS3 ( Serenity 1.2)
but GS3 and HTC One X are two totally different companies with two different builds of components so you'd not have a port from a Note 2 to One X.
It's logic once you look into the components of a phone and how they're built VS how computers are built and such.
GPU, CPU, Storage, etc on a PC are all parted,where-as on a phone they're soldiered onto one main board.
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This is a fantastic question! Essentially what has happened over the years is chip makers have designed their hardware around the windows os, and they have been able to do so because the windows os is a boxed software that, for the most part, cannot be changed. The Android os on the other hand is open sourced and can be tweaked 10 ways to Sunday, which is why most of us prefer it over ios or win mobile. The downside (kind of) is that the phones and tablets are specifically designed around the os and the os around the device. So in order to upgrade the os either the manufacturer (Samsung, Motorola etc) has to develop one or one of the brilliant coders out there has to work on developing one from the source code when it is released by Google. Hope this helps.
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Now i understand, thanks i was thinking it would be possible to build phones with a Bios and basic drivers preinstalled in the motherboard, just to run android, and then from there find the driver updates ecc for its own device. That would be much easier for all of us to flash roms, kernels ecc without the risk of briking divices, and also now a days the smartphones are almost like real computers ecc. I think if you got an HTC + 1.7 Ghz x 4 you wouldn't like stop receiving updates for your stock or custom rom because its still a good piece of hardware, and also even if i would got to pay 20 $ for an Android upgrade i wouldn't mind, i think an something thing like a bios in a phone will give a piece of mind for everyone, and it would be much easier.
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caha2639 said:
Great question, Many answers definitely.
Android OS are built around the phones, around specific devices.
For example:
GS3 and Note 2 are built on somewhat the same,
so odds are specific roms are ported to GS3 ( Serenity 1.2)
but GS3 and HTC One X are two totally different companies with two different builds of components so you'd not have a port from a Note 2 to One X.
It's logic once you look into the components of a phone and how they're built VS how computers are built and such.
GPU, CPU, Storage, etc on a PC are all parted,where-as on a phone they're soldiered onto one main board.
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But for example if HTC,Samsung and all manufacturers . install on there mother board a bios + basic drivers for input output ecc. and to separate Android from it. So you could then have a one Android for all. And devs could focus mainly to the functionality and less to the compatibility. It would be fantastic :thumbup:
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As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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Android and windows have more in common then anyone is letting on.
Wi ndows is closed source some other android is closed. Some of is is open.
Even though most of yours computers have windows dosnt mean that you can take the hard drive from one computer and expect for the Oscar to boot while in another computer. They all have drivers that are gding to be different.
Computers have biOs because of many different reasons. Computers are versatile smartphones are a relatively specialsized piece of equipment.
The question you ask has an answer but I think the same question can be asked aboout the differences between a couch and a chair. Someone just thought of a way to do somthing and it became the standard. Again computers freeway more advanced then smartphones. How many boot devices can you have on a smart phone? MAybe 2. Computers can have many hdds, many optical, many usb devices, many network boots...etc etc
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Tauros360 said:
Noob question, i dont understand why Windows os can run on allmost all computers and why Android roms does not ?
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Windows has been around forever.
pixelshuck said:
As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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So in chinese phones its possible to do this ? For example on my computer i have tried windows, ubuntu ecc all on the same hardware. so in chinese phone its possible to boot Android or Windows 8 mobile on the same hardware ? i dont understand now, its is possible but manufactures dont do it or its a tecnical problem. ?
Tauros360 said:
So in chinese phones its possible to do this ? For example on my computer i have tried windows, ubuntu ecc all on the same hardware. so in chinese phone its possible to boot Android or Windows 8 mobile on the same hardware ? i dont understand now, its is possible but manufactures dont do it or its a tecnical problem. ?
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No it doesn't matter. It is alot of closed source stuff in windows. Not to mention MS would C&D anyone that may even try. Even the new windows 8 32 bit pc systems have a locked bootloader so you can't change the OS
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pixelshuck said:
As simple answer: Most android devices use a lot of closed source/specification hardware.
Plus locked/partially locked bootloader
In windows (and linux too) kernel there is a lot of closed blobs which work fine on pc because they were precompiled under x86 arch, but there's no use for them on our arm devices.
If we had open specifications and hardware device, we wouldn't have any trouble getting OS in there(that's what china manufacturer do)
As usual - the only issue is copyright.
Go OSS!
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potna said:
Android and windows have more in common then anyone is letting on.
Wi ndows is closed source some other android is closed. Some of is is open.
Even though most of yours computers have windows dosnt mean that you can take the hard drive from one computer and expect for the Oscar to boot while in another computer. They all have drivers that are gding to be different.
Computers have biOs because of many different reasons. Computers are versatile smartphones are a relatively specialsized piece of equipment.
The question you ask has an answer but I think the same question can be asked aboout the differences between a couch and a chair. Someone just thought of a way to do somthing and it became the standard. Again computers freeway more advanced then smartphones. How many boot devices can you have on a smart phone? MAybe 2. Computers can have many hdds, many optical, many usb devices, many network boots...etc etc
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Im a little confused because i dont have any experience in how software and hardware runs together even i would like to learn it , all i know is that i cant put an AMD CPU on a Intel compatible motherboard, but an AMD and intel computers can run both on windows, Ubuntu, ecc. So now i understand that almost all Smartphones have diffrent hardware, but they can not all run on a one Android version, but Android needs to be customized to the hardware. Am i wright ? Do you think if manufactures produce there hardware to fit in a one Android version, and devs focus in a one Android version, and also roms could be compatible for all devices, if im not wrong. Because what i sow now is that many devs work more on compatibility, and if it was the other way they could realy focus on the functionality of Roms ecc. I'm still new in this world and i have a lot of things to learn, so im asking you guys, because you know more than me, so i could learn somthing from you.
Biggest problem of mobile devices is lack of good boot "catcher", as in BIOS, whom would allow custom kernel load.
Despite being binary compable(not always), the way android is being started differs.
The best we are getting is unlocked BL, but never open one.
Also, you have mentioned china devices.
On some chinese smartphones fully open bootloader is present, that's why it is possible to launch ubuntu and even windows(on atom tablets).
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I'm tired of having my old droidx hosting the android video via hdmi to the samsung smart tv. Not sure its even possible but I figured id ask anyway as this is the perfect place to ask . Has anyone tried or has any info on getting android onto a samsung smart tv getting rid of that smart hub crap and turning the tv into a large tablet minus the touchscreen?
TV model: UN55ES6150F
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favi smartstick?
Already looked into those but that pretty much the same thing my old droidx is doing now.
Droidx > HDMI > TV
Would love to have the tv run android instead of that smart hub bs and not have to attach any extra hardware.
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MysticElf said:
Already looked into those but that pretty much the same thing my old droidx is doing now.
Droidx > HDMI > TV
Would love to have the tv run android instead of that smart hub bs and not have to attach any extra hardware.
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For that ull have to wait for Samsung to implement in the future versions.. Its only a matter of time till.they strt Android t.v..
anyone making any head way with this?? I'd love to get rid of that smart hub p.o.s as well!
I'm also curious
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I'd love to do this as well! Hope someone finds a solution.
I'd love to see this as well. smarthub is nonsense
Samsung won't do it. It will stay as their own crappy Tizen OS TV.
After owning a Sony with Android TV I really wish there was an option to replace Tizen on my KU6300 & 8500, although Tizen is honestly a great OS for a basic user with the same speedy interface on their low end smart TV's as the high end it seems. I'm also surprised it's not common to replace the Fire OS on Firestick/Fire TV as that thing really is a total piece of crap. Laggy, complicated, full of useless suggestive pages that you are forced to dig through for your apps and then if your internet drops you can't even use PLEX or stream from a USB HD/Thumb Drive.
I need a little clarification. The Nvidia console is running the same type of android as the tablet but has integration with Android TV. So outside of a little bit of a spec boost why can't android TV be done on the Nvidia shield tablet using Console mode hooked up to a TV via HDMI? I'm really not seeing the difference in the two products other than some specs and hardware.
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I need a little clarification. The Nvidia console is running the same type of android as the tablet but has integration with Android TV. So outside of a little bit of a spec boost why can't android TV be done on the Nvidia shield tablet using Console mode hooked up to a TV via HDMI? I'm really not seeing the difference in the two products other than some specs and hardware.
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I just tried it then with my Xperia Z2 Tablet, I downloaded the apk from: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/leanback-launcher/. Then pressed home and selected it as my launcher. I then plugged my Xbox 360 controller into my OTG Cable, then into the Tablet. I was able to launch Leo's fortune without a hiccup. Try for yourself.
So technically I could do this with a MHL to HDMI adaptor, but im still going to be getting the Nvidia Shield because I want something permanent in my loungeroom
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I just tried it then with my Xperia Z2 Tablet, I downloaded the apk from: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/leanback-launcher/. Then pressed home and selected it as my launcher. I then plugged my Xbox 360 controller into my OTG Cable, then into the Tablet. I was able to launch Leo's fortune without a hiccup. Try for yourself.
So technically I could do this with a MHL to HDMI adaptor, but im still going to be getting the Nvidia Shield because I want something permanent in my loungeroom
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Did you have to root to do this? Also do you only need the launcher apk or any other files? Not sure if all the services would run the same.
My original point is I have the shield tablet not sure why it can't do exactly the same thing as the console.
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Bboy486 said:
Did you have to root to do this? Also do you only need the launcher apk or any other files? Not sure if all the services would run the same.
My original point is I have the shield tablet not sure why it can't do exactly the same thing as the console.
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I do have root but sideloading an APK doesnt require root. Try it yourself.
If you want that full Android TV experience though, I'd go with the Shield TV
I guess I don't k ow why the tablet can't do what the console does. They are so similar.
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Maybe because they're two separate devices that are different things. While I guess I can see what you mean about them being similar, they're different form factors, meant fit different purposes. If you must, install adb drivers and sideload the launcher, or just transfer the apk and install. Tbh though, you're not missing out. True story - it's just a phone without its own screen with a limited launcher. The search function is kind of cool , but nothing amazing. You can say show me movies that won an Oscar in 2012 , or show me movies with Kevin Hart, and it will show you movies, but mostly not what your looking for. I only bought it because ive been streaming games via moonlight on my note 4, and I thought it would be nice to stream them to my tv.
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I do have root but sideloading an APK doesnt require root. Try it yourself.
If you want that full Android TV experience though, I'd go with the Shield TV
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I did load it but it is t responsive. It goes to update suggestions and then nothing is clickable. Maybe I need another file.
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Maybe because they're two separate devices that are different things. While I guess I can see what you mean about them being similar, they're different form factors, meant fit different purposes. If you must, install adb drivers and sideload the launcher, or just transfer the apk and install. Tbh though, you're not missing out. True story - it's just a phone without its own screen with a limited launcher. The search function is kind of cool , but nothing amazing. You can say show me movies that won an Oscar in 2012 , or show me movies with Kevin Hart, and it will show you movies, but mostly not what your looking for. I only bought it because ive been streaming games via moonlight on my note 4, and I thought it would be nice to stream them to my tv.
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Actually that is what I would like. Contextual search. Appletv is a letdown. Chrome cast has been good but I rather have the interface and the contextual search. I like how androidtv is laid out and interacts with Google now. With that said I already us the tablet so I not going to get the console, which brings me to the reason I am questioning why I can't recreate the same experience. I would like there is more than just the launcher.
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Little bit of a spec boost? At least twice as powerful, and 4K at 60FPS to boot.
It also uses the android TV platform which even though it is based on 5.1.1 it is different then the tablet os.
Also the hardware is different.
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It also uses the android TV platform which even though it is based on 5.1.1 it is different then the tablet os.
Also the hardware is different.
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Beside the spec boost what I want to to flash the android TV platform on my tablet but haven't seen a thread that does this. The lea back launcher is unresponsive when I use it (cannot tap anything on the screen).
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