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I just tried to make the switch from at&t to t-mobile. I had my sensation for about a week, and just returned it this morning.
Reasons I loved the sensation.
Decent battery life *(not as great as everyone made me expect.
Awesome Camera, especially outside- I really could see myself using this phone as a replacement for a cheap point and shoot.
The hardware was pretty much all around fantastic. Great feel in hand. A ton thinner than the evo 3d, especially around the edges. This phone has such a nice shape that it almost gets lost in my pocket. I actually found myself grabbing my pocket to make sure it hadn't fallen out.
The wifi-calling was a great value add.
The screen was fantastic. My next phone will have to have a qhd or better display (no sgsII for me). Say what you want about contrast ratios, but I rarely use my phone outside. Having the extra pixels however was absolutely awesome for browsing the web. The extra pixels also made living without a hardware keyboard a little bit easier to bare *(when in portrait mode).
The unlock page that came with sense 3.0. Other than that sense just seemed to get in my way.
FM radio. I'm the guy who wants to watch and listen to the tv-s at the gym.
Why I just couldn't risk spending 2 years with it.
I had no reception at my house or work on t-mo. This is really the biggest reason why I had to return my phone.
Because of the above the cell radio was draining the battery attempting to connect to the networks. I really don't want to spend two years having to remember to turn off the cell radio every time I get home.
T-mobile support was an exercise in frustration to deal with.
Will I still even get 3g/4g service in 2 years? This is debatable. AT&T will have to repurpose some of T-mo's spectrum from somewhere.
The built-in picasa upload is broken *(I use this all the time).
No way to jump to the galery app when in camera mode. This seems like a really obvious omission.
The speakephone volume over wifi calling really shouldn't be considered a speakerphone at all. I couldn't test speakerphone over t-mo because I never had reception when I wanted to make a call.
There was no setting to auto disable the cell radio when connected over wi-fi and wi-fi calling was enabled. I admit this is a nit-pick, but it really would have been nice.
I counted at least 3 backup apps all of which were trying to send my contacts to different parts of the world. Why do I need to backup any of my contacts? For me everything is in google, that's why I want an android phone. The killer part about this is that these apps will suck your battery dry.
Currently no way to remove all the crap-ware that t-mo stuffs it's phones with. There is a lot of it. I bet that is why there is so much discussion about the a performance problem between the sensation and the evo 3d screen rotate speed.
No NFC. Not really a deal-breaker, but it is disappointing.
So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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npoc said:
Why I just could risk spending 2 years with it.
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I think you accidentally a conjunction in there
xnifex said:
I think you accidentally a conjunction in there
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Lulz irony abounds, he missed a conjunction and you omitted a word from your sentence, pointing out his omitted conjunction @[email protected]
npoc said:
I just tried to make the switch from at&t to t-mobile. I had my sensation for about a week, and just returned it this morning.
Reasons I loved the sensation.
Decent battery life *(not as great as everyone made me expect.
Awesome Camera, especially outside- I really could see myself using this phone as a replacement for a cheap point and shoot.
The hardware was pretty much all around fantastic. Great feel in hand. A ton thinner than the evo 3d, especially around the edges. This phone has such a nice shape that it almost gets lost in my pocket. I actually found myself grabbing my pocket to make sure it hadn't fallen out.
The wifi-calling was a great value add.
The screen was fantastic. My next phone will have to have a qhd or better display (no sgsII for me). Say what you want about contrast ratios, but I rarely use my phone outside. Having the extra pixels however was absolutely awesome for browsing the web. The extra pixels also made living without a hardware keyboard a little bit easier to bare *(when in portrait mode).
The unlock page that came with sense 3.0. Other than that sense just seemed to get in my way.
FM radio. I'm the guy who wants to watch and listen to the tv-s at the gym.
Why I just could risk spending 2 years with it.
I had no reception at my house or work on t-mo. This is really the biggest reason why I had to return my phone.
Because of the above the cell radio was draining the battery attempting to connect to the networks. I really don't want to spend two years having to remember to turn off the cell radio every time I get home.
T-mobile support was an exercise in frustration to deal with.
Will I still even get 3g/4g service in 2 years? This is debatable. AT&T will have to repurpose some of T-mo's spectrum from somewhere.
The built-in picasa upload is broken *(I use this all the time).
No way to jump to the galery app when in camera mode. This seems like a really obvious omission.
The speakephone volume over wifi calling really shouldn't be considered a speakerphone at all. I couldn't test speakerphone over t-mo because I never had reception when I wanted to make a call.
There was no setting to auto disable the cell radio when connected over wi-fi and wi-fi calling was enabled. I admit this is a nit-pick, but it really would have been nice.
I counted at least 3 backup apps all of which were trying to send my contacts to different parts of the world. Why do I need to backup any of my contacts? For me everything is in google, that's why I want an android phone. The killer part about this is that these apps will suck your battery dry.
Currently no way to remove all the crap-ware that t-mo stuffs it's phones with. There is a lot of it. I bet that is why there is so much discussion about the a performance problem between the sensation and the evo 3d screen rotate speed.
No NFC. Not really a deal-breaker, but it is disappointing.
So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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- Also to the OP: A bunch of these problems are fixable with root, also there is a way to go to the gallery from the stock camera app... and even if there wasn't why wouldn't you just DL a camera app from market that would allow you to do what you wanted?
- Turn off the other contacts backup services... I did
- Why wouldn't you have 4g in 2 years? 4G will actually be much faster in two years and will be approaching "actual" 4G speeds.
- You couldnt do a one click disable of the cell radio while on wifi and wifi calling was enabled because that happens automatically.
- Speakerphone was too low on wifi calling? Wow, that's probably fixable as well.
- And if you have a smart phone YOU will need to learn how to manage its battery life. The Sensation actually does have preeettty good battery life for a smartphone.
Cheers, good luck on ATT we'll all probably be there next year anyway.
Thats def not a good experience; as you say it sounds mostly coverage related which is the case for most carriers. Tmo has always been good to me where ive lived (4g here where i work and around my home).
Every phone/network won't work for everyone. Although the NFC is something that initially gave me pause, but I really don't see that being something i won't be able to live without in just 2 years; it's barely rolled out; not to mention text transactions and CC soda machines are also on the rise.
I am personally a little annoyed with how sense handles (or doesn't) the picasa gallery (Why can't i make a slide show with my picasa stuff).
Enjoy your G1 even with cyanogen; not sure I could go back THAT far even if I had crappy service
I am missing my MIUI though, still running my N1 with MIUI latest and it's been getting amazingly robust the past few updates (5 way unlock specifically).
I believe the Cell Radios turn off when you activate WiFi calling. And I have a way to get to the gallery from my camera app...
A G1 though?! I'd rather take all the cons you listed than go all the way back to that poor thing, on EDGE no less. G1 was awesome back in the day, but now you're just torturing the poor thing.
npoc said:
So give me a non-bloatwared, boot-loader unlocked sensation, add NFC, put it on a carrier that gives me reception, and I'll have my next phone. As for now I'll have to live with my rooted/ cyanogen-modded G1 on AT&T.
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Unless you buy an unlocked manufacturer phone from overseas your stuck with carrier bloatware and hardware/software changes. That or one of the Nexus series. And your only choice for NFC right now is Nexus. So I think we've found your next phone.
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I believe the Cell Radios turn off when you activate WiFi calling. And I have a way to get to the gallery from my camera app...
A G1 though?! I'd rather take all the cons you listed than go all the way back to that poor thing, on EDGE no less. G1 was awesome back in the day, but now you're just torturing the poor thing.
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I'm pretty sure i had to manually disable the cell radios if I wanted them off when on wi-fi. It did however route my calls over wi-fi automatically. It did not automatically turn off my cell radio when wi-fi calling was enabled. When I was at work or at home, the power graph was pretty ugly with the cell radios on.
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Lulz irony abounds, he missed a conjunction and you omitted a word from your sentence, pointing out his omitted conjunction @[email protected]
- Also to the OP: A bunch of these problems are fixable with root, also there is a way to go to the gallery from the stock camera app... and even if there wasn't why wouldn't you just DL a camera app from market that would allow you to do what you wanted?
- Turn off the other contacts backup services... I did
- Why wouldn't you have 4g in 2 years? 4G will actually be much faster in two years and will be approaching "actual" 4G speeds.
- You couldnt do a one click disable of the cell radio while on wifi and wifi calling was enabled because that happens automatically.
- Speakerphone was too low on wifi calling? Wow, that's probably fixable as well.
- And if you have a smart phone YOU will need to learn how to manage its battery life. The Sensation actually does have preeettty good battery life for a smartphone.
Cheers, good luck on ATT we'll all probably be there next year anyway.
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As I said the big reason I had to return it was poor reception.
Being a t-mo customer you are not guaranteed anything over the next 2 years. AT&T is trying to acquire t-mo to repurpose some of t-mo's spectrum. What part of their owned spectrum is anyone's guess
I agree that all the firmware issues are fixable, but they are still annoyances that I shouldn't have to deal with. I don't know how long it will take for HTC to unlock the sensation's bootloader or for someone to get root on the phone, but I had 14 days to make a decision on whether I wanted to be stuck with a 2 year contract. The speakerphone is a firmware deal-breaker for me atm, as I do have to use my phone for conference calls.
As for me my current plan is to find a recent boot-loader unlocked AT&T *cough* 4g compatible phone on craigslist, and then sign a contract on ATT or VZ when the right phone comes up.
in settings, there is an option to what you want it to do...cell preferred, wi-fi preferred, or wifi only
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in settings, there is an option to what you want it to do...cell preferred, wi-fi preferred, or wifi only
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You completely missed the point. Wi-fi was preferred, but it leaves the cell radio on which drains battery. Better luck next time.
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I'm pretty sure i had to manually disable the cell radios if I wanted them off when on wi-fi. It did however route my calls over wi-fi automatically. It did not automatically turn off my cell radio when wi-fi calling was enabled. When I was at work or at home, the power graph was pretty ugly with the cell radios on.
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I get pretty good service even though I live in a basement (I was barely getting any bars on Sprint and Verizon before that). However, I still use WiFi calling to maximize my battery life (and it's working), and I use a Tasker profile to automate turning on wifi, turning off cell radio when it detect the cell towers by my house and my wifi ssid.
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I get pretty good service even though I live in a basement (I was barely getting any bars on Sprint and Verizon before that). However, I still use WiFi calling to maximize my battery life (and it's working), and I use a Tasker profile to automate turning on wifi, turning off cell radio when it detect the cell towers by my house and my wifi ssid.
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Good suggestion, I will have to use that if I ever go back to T-Mo. Still, T-Mo should have made that a setting in their app.
I am about to return mine after 4 days of use. I love the phone and will be exchanging it for a new one.
Mine has started randomly making calls while sitting on my desk charging, The unlock ring started bouncing around the screen when I unlocked it and I had to turn off phone to get it to stop, it can charge all night long and still only show 75%, and I am dropping calls. Not what I want from a $600 device. I hope my second one is up to par. I have never had to exchange a phone with Tmobile before for these reasons.
A few notes.
If you used WiFi calling you wouldn't have to (nor CAN you) turn off the radio. It doesn't drain the battery in WiFi calling mode, you know nothing about how it works.
I upload to Picasa no problem.
Speakerphone volume is always low, the speakerphone sucks.
AT&T support and/or customer service is horrible. If you are speaking with a regular T-Mobile rep (one that does NOT introduce themselves as Android or PDA support) for phone issues you are speaking to the WRONG representative.
I couldn't ever see my self going back to a G1, may as well get out the bag phone again
I'm coming from Sprint and switched to T-Mobile primarily because of WiFi-Calling, and secondly because of the HTC Sensation. Not a single carrier has signal inside my apartment unit. Sprint gave me an Airave which works well for about a year, but recently started giving me problem where I cannot hear the caller, but the caller can hear me most of the time. With T-Mobile's WiFi-Calling, it works all the time. The sound quality may not be the greatest, but acceptable enough that I can have a conversation using it over an hour. On a full charge, 0 bar signal, using WiFi-Calling for almost half an hour, I did not see a drop on my battery charge, not even 1%, last time I checked.
I'm sad to leave Sprint, but T-Mo's WiFi-Calling is unbeatable, specially when travelling overseas.
I currently have a 4G Verizon xyboard that is going back to Motorola for the 2nd time in 2 weeks. Bought it the end of March. You guessed it - I'm not happy with the quality since this will be the second repair and it's not like I've thrown it around. On the other hand, I love the 8.2 size and when it works, it's a nice tablet. But that's the hitch "when it works", which is not a lot these days.
It started with charging and lockup issues which were repaired, and now it won't stay connected either to wifi or VZW on a consistent basis (as in, sit in one place, get connected with good signal, don't move, wait 2 minutes, lose signal). And since I bought it because of the VZW coverage, I'm paying for a data plan I can't even use.
So, I'm getting prepared here - if by some chance, mine fails a third time, I'm changing xooms. Given the love that the original Xoom still has on here and from Google, I'm going to try and get a model that will upgrade, which probably means ebay or craigslist even though mine should still be covered under warranty.
Which xoom do I want - I see version numbers all over the place and I'm confused. For example, I think there was a thread about the 'original' 3G xoom being upgraded to 4G through Motorola? So which model is/was that? If you have one of those models, does the 3G/4G service work well for you? Is there a different model I should look for?
Thanks in advance - any useful advice would be appreciated!
So I've been waiting to get internet at my apartment, and have been using my one m8 tethered as home internet (thanks to the help on this forum getting a ROM running on it that lets me use the mobile hotspot).
Its working great. However, i'm at 120GB with 5 days to go. Being that this would be, under most carrier plans, an insane amount of data... I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with this. I definitely haven't seen any throttling or slowdown. Runs PS4 games, streaming, whatever. I was actually at 60GB 5 days into the month and have made a concereted effort to slow down lol, otherwise I might be in the 300-400GB range. That said, it really isn't too bad.
I actually just ordered time warner cable for $40/mo, so I guess I'm moving on anyway. But I'm curious if anyone has been doing this for an extended period and if Verizon ever made a stink.
Someone I know does. He canceled all wired tv, phone, & internet service to his home and has been using his verizon S4 for it all for over a year now. He's on the old unlimited data plan. It is apparently working well for him but he had to get a special wifi card for his PC to use the hotspot from the phone. He uses a wifi capable "smart" bluray player to get all his TV programming from youtube, netflix, and amazon prime. He said it was a learning curve to find all the tv programming he used to watch on cable but he has been able to get it all, albeit, at a later release date then the mainstream networks' prime time debuts.
I do it, but with T-Mobile.
Just one thing though....constant wifi tethering will destroy your phone. Specifically the battery, but all that heat and energy use can't be good for the rest of it either. I ruined 2 batteries on my Galaxy Light in less than a year. Ruined 2 Motorola Razr Maxxes this way too. You don't want to be doing this with a phone like the M8 that is practically impossible to repair.
If you choose to go this route, pick up a cheap (rootable, obviously) phone with a removable battery, like a Galaxy S3 to use as your "home" phone.
The S4 is better then the S3 in that regard because it supports that newer faster LTE (aws?), the wifi hardware is quite a bit more advanced (faster), and the repairs (if ever necessary) are easier. Wifi tether does use a lot of power but you'll be plugged in for that most of the time, especially at home. The circuitry holds up just fine in the S4 as long as you're not aggravating the situation with over-volting / over-clocking.
I had been using my old Droid 4 as a home gateway/router before I got the One working. Perhaps I could just use that as my home router.. it worked well enough but would cut out occasionally (annoying during games... the One doesn't do that). If anything the Droid 4 seemed to have a stronger wifi signal when it worked though... better range, just as fast as the M8.
Do you know how much data your friend goes through?
The Droid 4 does/did get really hot while tethering. To the point I'd usually rest it on a cold can of soda or something while using it, lol. The One doesn't get nearly as hot.
Keep in mind that the power consumption and heat generation of the screen still dwarfs that of the wifi module. While using the phone as a home internet gateway the screen will likely be off most of the time.
I don't know about his data useage quantity but he's almost always got something streaming video of some kind. Its probably not ideal for serious gaming because the signal does drop out from time to time. Toggling airplane mode on and off again reestablishes a full-speed connection pretty quick but it would be disruptive in a game.
well. my signal on the One hasn't dropped and I've been logging a lot of Destiny this month. Sometimes you'll get a little lag but it isn't bad.
Just saw that VZW is hiking unlimited prices $20/mo... wonder if that'll get challenged by the FCC (like throttling etc): http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/08/tec...ted-plan-increase/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom
I have old UDP and use my phone hotspot to devices it in my motorhome. All was good until 2 months ago when I used 50-60gb and they throttled me since. No 4g at all from home tower. get 4g elsewhere .
How do I approach customer service to get un-throttled? New reports say they are not throttling anymore.
Thanks.
Try cycling airplane mode on/off to reestablish a 4G data connection.
0reo said:
Try cycling airplane mode on/off to reestablish a 4G data connection.
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Tried that 50 million times. She a no work! Others get 4g at my place not me.
This is my SOLUTION
Verizon 4G LTE Broadband Router With Voice
Works like a charm.
Born<ICs said:
I have old UDP and use my phone hotspot to devices it in my motorhome. All was good until 2 months ago when I used 50-60gb and they throttled me since. No 4g at all from home tower. get 4g elsewhere .
How do I approach customer service to get un-throttled? New reports say they are not throttling anymore.
Thanks.
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i would just call them and explain your problem as you have here, and leave out the throttle part.
back up your data firs, they will likely have you factory reset at some point.
it could be a problem with your phone, or a problem with the towers in your area. they will determine which.
its very unlikely they are throttling. they wouldnt reduce the 4g signal output on an entire tower to do it, and they are actually prohibited from doing it by the fcc.
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i would just call them and explain your problem as you have here, and leave out the throttle part.
back up your data firs, they will likely have you factory reset at some point.
it could be a problem with your phone, or a problem with the towers in your area. they will determine which.
its very unlikely they are throttling. they wouldnt reduce the 4g signal output on an entire tower to do it, and they are actually prohibited from doing it by the fcc.
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Thank you. Ended up swapping Sim then got consistent signal a few days later. No idea what they did on their end. Swapped Sim to 6P and all is good now.
I did this when I was doing my internship. I mainly just streamed Netflix and only hit 256GB that month. There was a time Verizon was throttling my data even though they wouldn't admit it until I eventually got transferred to an engineer . None of their support tiers could answer my questions and kept telling me they didn't have the capability to throttle so the problem is my fault. I somehow eventually talked to an engineer at Verizon and the engineer didn't directly admit it but rather, he implied that they do have that capability and the support techs were lying. One tech blamed "tower service in the area" and another tech blamed the unlocked bootloader on my 2013 Moto X DEV for causing the connectivity issues even though I was running the stock ROM and even restored everything back to stock prior to calling. Hahaha.. The funny thing is that the connection went back to normal directly after that call ended. Weird how that works....
Before I begin allow me to give some background info on myself. I was one of those preteens in the late 2000s who was in on the iPod trend. I started out with one of the old generation nanos and later upgraded to a touch. Once my parents gave me the privilege of having a phone I chose to get an iPhone because I was already familiar with the iOS software and I would not have trouble figuring it out and that was exactly my experience. I started with a iPhone 3g then a 4 then finally a 5s which I still have now. Later on in life I became an avid PC builder. I had probably spent entire days of my life learning about computer components before I made the switch to android. I had to get my own cell service because my parents would not let me use theirs anymore so I had to make a switch. I needed unlimited data for my mobile hotspot so my search began. I went to bestbuy where cell phone service reps from different companies all had a conversation with me at once. Sprint was one of the few companies that offered unlimited data for normal cell phone use but did not offer that for a mobile hotspot. The rep suggested I use a rooted or jail broken phone with the proper modifications to get unlimited hotspot data. Sprint is a CDMA carrier which means my AT&T iPhone would not work which means I needed to get a new phone. A lot of people, especially in the computer nerd circles seemed to like androids and I understood why. Androids oftentimes have micro SD slots (up to 128GB for around $30) around 3-4GB of RAM, very nice cameras, and around 3000mAh batteries which also often times support qual comm quick charge usually for around the price of $400. So I decided to buy a LG G4 and use it but I was unable to root it. Around this time Cricket Wireless announced their unlimited data plan that did not throttle down wireless speeds. I bought a Moto X Pure Edition and A Cricket SIM card on amazon. I rooted it, bought the cricket service plan and got my mobile hotspot with unlimited data at no extra charge. Thanks for the help everybody. I used Sprints 30 satisfaction guarantee to get a refund from them and I was on my way.
I've been using it for a couple of months now and I think I'm going to go back to my iPhone
Why?:
1. The battery life is HORRIBLE on both the Moto X and LG G4. Normally this would never be a concern on my iPhone. Already familiar with software modifications of androids I decided to install a custom ROM and kernel (TruPureXMM 2.9 with Franken Kernel) which are supposed to help increase battery life by removing a lot of the unnecessary things that came preinstalled with the phone among other things but didn't seem to do much. I would always plug my iPhone into my car whenever I drive somewhere and would rarely ever be concerned about its battery life. When I plug in my android into my car, sometimes it will still be losing battery life. When I woke up this morning my android was dead as it usually is when it gets left unplugged overnight. When I plugged it into my computer it took about 20min to even be ready to boot. When it did boot is said it would be 12 HOURS before it would be fully charged. According to my Moto X I use on average 2.5 GB of RAM. It also has a Dual-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57 & quad-core 1.44 GHz Cortex-A53 CPU. My iPhone 5s has 1GB of RAM and a Dual-Core 1.3 GHz Cyclone CPU and I never noticed any performance issues in it's stock software configuration.
2. I hate Micro USB cables and Qual Comm quick charge. In the couple of months I've had the Moto X I've already destroyed 2 regular micro USB cables and the Turbo Charger that came with my Moto X. Occasionally I would break the old iPhone/iPod chargers but I have yet to ruin one of the newly designed iPhone/iPod chargers. I've heard that Qual Comm quick charge will reduce the life span of batteries. I shouldn't need to hard wire a power outlet into my car do get a decent amount of charge for my android in my car. Regular USB ports should get the job done right.
3. The screens are way to big for a cell phone. I know there are small androids out there but all the androids that were at the Sprint store were massive. I'm 6' 0" and I still have problems fitting these droids into my hand. I shouldn't have to choose between having a good grip on my phone and being able to touch anywhere on the screen with my thumb. Why do androids usually display at 1440p resolution anyway? I thought they only needed to be a retina display. The screen size and resolution has to be eating away a HUGE amount of electricity.
Dear Google, LG, Motorola, and all the other people in charge of making android phones a reality,
You're competing against the most valuable business on the face of the earth. Start acting like it. I shouldn't need to buy apps and download sketchy software only available to rooted devices to make them last as long as iPhones.
Sincerely,
Kasyton
Until about last year, I trusted Android...
Then my mum bought me a present, a cheap Allview P7 Pro. Phone was looking fine, it was supposed to be Dual Mode 4G (FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE), Dual Sim as my old Allview V1 Viper...
She bought it in Romania and managed to send it to me in UK. Unpacked, plugged in both sim cards (Romanian Digi and UK Three). Been negatively impressed of the new interface looks, those devs really like to completely change interface from build to build, but it was very white-ish and I am a night person...
Impossible tethering. At the time, if I remember well, P7 Pro had Lollipop running, though now gsmarena says it's Marshmallow.
The phone was actually creating the wireless connection, but it was no tethering on it, as I presumed it was actually trying to tether internet from the Digi sim (which was disabled) instead of the one from the Three sim (which was enabled). I couldn't believe my eyes, there was no way to get tethering to work.
Then I just unmounted the Digi card and left just the Three. Finally tethering was working. But hey, we use dual sim phones for a reason.
Anyway, I've seen there were problems with connection. Even deep in the night towards morning when finally Three was working in the remote Highlands... (One of our colleagues had a Utok 400D, and I still think about buying that as a modem, he was shaming us with his phone, his girlfriend streaming a movie and he playing a game on the same connection during daytime, which was impossible for everyone else, but gladly I'm no longer there).
So I tried to download a movie. After about 2-3 minutes of download, it was actually going to stop. Pretty funny, Internet Download Manager, which didn't ever have any problem, before, or after that night, was becoming blocked into a "Connecting"/"Sending GET..." endless loop. Stop & resume. Did that more than 100 times in about 3 hours. Downloaded the movie, however, but I was determined to get rid of the phone. Packed the sims back on my old Allview V1 Viper, which I still use today and managed to sell the brand new P7 Pro...
Now I'd like to buy a new phone, but I'm really scared.
I don't know what's out there, I don't know how much devs possibly screwed Android builds, I don't wanna end with a defective flagship because some mofos talked to some networks in order to screw users tethering.
I still don't have good wireless in this location, but Three works very well. Still, I need to know which Android versions are to be trusted at least on this aspect of tethering.
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Until about last year, I trusted Android...
Then my mum bought me a present, a cheap Allview P7 Pro. Phone was looking fine, it was supposed to be Dual Mode 4G (FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE), Dual Sim as my old Allview V1 Viper...
She bought it in Romania and managed to send it to me in UK. Unpacked, plugged in both sim cards (Romanian Digi and UK Three). Been negatively impressed of the new interface looks, those devs really like to completely change interface from build to build, but it was very white-ish and I am a night person...
Impossible tethering. At the time, if I remember well, P7 Pro had Lollipop running, though now gsmarena says it's Marshmallow.
The phone was actually creating the wireless connection, but it was no tethering on it, as I presumed it was actually trying to tether internet from the Digi sim (which was disabled) instead of the one from the Three sim (which was enabled). I couldn't believe my eyes, there was no way to get tethering to work.
Then I just unmounted the Digi card and left just the Three. Finally tethering was working. But hey, we use dual sim phones for a reason.
Anyway, I've seen there were problems with connection. Even deep in the night towards morning when finally Three was working in the remote Highlands... (One of our colleagues had a Utok 400D, and I still think about buying that as a modem, he was shaming us with his phone, his girlfriend streaming a movie and he playing a game on the same connection during daytime, which was impossible for everyone else, but gladly I'm no longer there).
So I tried to download a movie. After about 2-3 minutes of download, it was actually going to stop. Pretty funny, Internet Download Manager, which didn't ever have any problem, before, or after that night, was becoming blocked into a "Connecting"/"Sending GET..." endless loop. Stop & resume. Did that more than 100 times in about 3 hours. Downloaded the movie, however, but I was determined to get rid of the phone. Packed the sims back on my old Allview V1 Viper, which I still use today and managed to sell the brand new P7 Pro...
Now I'd like to buy a new phone, but I'm really scared.
I don't know what's out there, I don't know how much devs possibly screwed Android builds, I don't wanna end with a defective flagship because some mofos talked to some networks in order to screw users tethering.
I still don't have good wireless in this location, but Three works very well. Still, I need to know which Android versions are to be trusted at least on this aspect of tethering.
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I think that would be more of an issue of the network involved instead of the device or android version.
Tethering should not be a problem if you root the device though. There is usually a mod or an app of some sort that can be used to enable hotspot/tethering on pretty much every device.
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I think that would be more of an issue of the network involved instead of the device or android version.
Tethering should not be a problem if you root the device though. There is usually a mod or an app of some sort that can be used to enable hotspot/tethering on pretty much every device.
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Still, my old Viper V1 never had a problem to tether, it never needed root for that (I rooted it because I believed at some point the speeds were too low for that to be the network's fault, believed it to be a policy thing, but Three in Highlands is 2G basically).
I was 100% convinced it was a Lollipop bug, that some developer addressed a wrong object, trying to get the internet from a wrong sim. I could not swap the sims, cause they were different sizes, however it could tether when only the Three sim was physically inserted in the phone. Still, there was the other bug, connection not actually working after a few minutes.
I mean the surprise was too much. You don't expect that kinda issue with a brand new phone and a supposedly newer version of Android. (I remember when Ice Cream Sandwich came out, I couldn't even find the internet settings, in 5 minutes I was flashing back Gingerbread, but Gingerbread was working fine on my Galaxy S at the time). Hate those interface changes they dish out on every new version.
Still, my question is: are the new versions having the same Lollipop bug on dual sim phones ? Can I safely buy a new phone now ?