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Hello guys,
this is my first post on this forum and I hope it doesn't sound to agressive.
So, here goes:
I bought a HTC Touch Cruise that was locked on the RO Vodafone network. Before finding out about this great forum and all of you guys I ordered and paid, stupid me, ~30 euros for an unlock code from deblocage-htc.com
I sent them the correct imei, and the money via paypal and the next day i received my unlock code.
I inserted a sim card from the telecom company i work with and it asked for the unlock code, so i entered the code and... surprise: INVALID CODE.
I sent an email back to the site owners (that was 7 days ago) and asked them to help me solve my problem.
7 days have passed and still no answer, although I sent several other emails.
I filed a claim on paypal and the guy managed to send evidence that he is ok in only 2 MINUTES, but still doesn't find time to answer my emails.
This was the first time (and definitely the last one) I tried the easy way and I ended up with a "fat lip"
I managed to unlock my phone by miself today thanks to the nice utilities and the very explicit guide provided by Olinex (hope I remembered it right), so i promise i'll make a donation to you this week.
What I'm pissed about are not the money, but the fact that they didn't even bother to answer my emails.
PS.
My lawyer would love to know their real name and address, as I record each and every online purchase I make, and print screens with all the terms and conditions.
Hopefully the guys in the IT dept in my company will manage to provide me with the information I need.
I apologize again if this post doesn't belong here, but in a moment of stupidity (this was my first windows mobile phone and I didn't have any patience) i've been scammed for the first time in my life...
PS 2
Pardon my english, but I'm not native.
Did anyone else encounter the same problem?
We at XDA are sorry to hear that happen to you and pray that you get your funds back, but still this is not the place to discuss these issues. Hope you understand. I will keep this thread locked till someone can PM me if they have any information to share with you, then I'll open it again
Moreover within an hour, looks like no one else faced this problem
This is just to clean the forums clean so everyone can get the information that they seek regarding devices and ROMs and likes
Thank you
Hello,
My sister just bought a new Samsung C3050, network-locked.
Does somebody know a way to unlock it, or a website where I should go ?
I know some website where it is possible to unlock Alcatel, ZTE... phones for free, but nothing for Samsung.
Thanks in advance.
gayraja said:
Hi,
you can unlock the network by approaching the service provider or just go to online providers for the code.i prefer xxxxx who provides code and instructions to unlock........
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Spammer detected...
gayraja registered 3 days ago, and just spams for apparently different online unlock services... Apparently different because the names differ, but are probably the same service (because the web interface is always about the same), and at various (but always high) prices... (prounlocking, mobileunlocksolutions, theunlockarena...)
My first message in this thread is old, and I found by myself a much cheaper unlock provider than yours long time ago, so... thanks for nothing, gayraja...
khonar said:
Spammer detected...
gayraja registered 3 days ago, and just spams for apparently different online unlock services... Apparently different because the names differ, but are probably the same service (because the web interface is always about the same), and at various (but always high) prices... (prounlocking, mobileunlocksolutions, theunlockarena...)
My first message in this thread is old, and I found by myself a much cheaper unlock provider than yours long time ago, so... thanks for nothing, gayraja...
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He's new and probably didn't read date, that's all. You asked for help and he was trying to do that, maybe a little late but so. Calm down.
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B-rye785 said:
He's new and probably didn't read date, that's all. You asked for help and he was trying to do that, maybe a little late but so. Calm down.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
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I read all his posts, that's why I'm sure about the spam thing...
Anyways, thanks for telling.
PS: maybe you can configure your PC36100 differently so it doesn't show the same message every time you post. Just saying...
It's whatever. Just thought you were flaming him. Just saying. Peace bro.
P.S. This better? ......
Sent from my bad azz OG Evo 4g
You can Unlock the samsung Mobile Phone easily using the unlock code,You can buy the Unlock code for Mobile Phones at Superunlockcodes.com and unlock it from Network lock,You can enter unlock code in the mobile phone using unlocking instructions from Mobileunlockguide.com Free unlock code is not possible to get for the Latest Phone,you need to pay for it..You can get the unlock code for Latest phones and unlock it.
Another spammer detected...
I have read a lot of his posts, malayalapenkutti justs spams for:
- unlocking (expensive) paying sites
- a crappy Internet speed test site ip-details.com
He's replying to very old posts, sometimes more than one year... this guy really needs to be banned, just like gayraja was in this thread.
The page is live again.
Just login below :
https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail
You can refer to the attachment.
All users who buy a new Huawei or Honor as of today will not be able to unlock the bootloader having the door closed to the installation of ROMs. For those smartphones already marketed there will be an unlock limit: 60 days from today, but it does not work anymore. We will see if the manufacturer ends up retraining and gives the freedom to change what you want, assuming the risk of damaging the mobile phone, which is why it is yours.
It is not good to leave aside the developers and the most mobile fans that are around. I do not understand why they have changed their mind, that someone explains why they think they have made this turn
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
luisbit said:
All users who buy a new Huawei or Honor as of today will not be able to unlock the bootloader having the door closed to the installation of ROMs. For those smartphones already marketed there will be an unlock limit: 60 days from today, but it does not work anymore. We will see if the manufacturer ends up retraining and gives the freedom to change what you want, assuming the risk of damaging the mobile phone, which is why it is yours.
It is not good to leave aside the developers and the most mobile fans that are around. I do not understand why they have changed their mind, that someone explains why they think they have made this turn
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Actually that's not all correct. Devices Huawei/Honor released after 5/24 will not be able to unlock bootloaders. If you purchase a device within the 60 day period you can still request an unlock code. If you buy a device after the 60 day period you won't be able to retrieve an unlock code.
[email protected]_USA said:
Actually that's not all correct. Devices Huawei/Honor released after 5/24 will not be able to unlock bootloaders. If you purchase a device within the 60 day period you can still request an unlock code. If you buy a device after the 60 day period you won't be able to retrieve an unlock code.
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Fatal error??
goes blank for a week or more
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Is this a permanent decision ? Without the unlock codz, there is no way to flash custom ROM ? no anyway ? :crying:
that`s good to know...i was planning to buy a View 10 but not under These circumstances. If Huawei/Honor doesn`t let the customers decide, what to do with their device, i son`t buy their stuff.
It`s the same with Nokia btw....
Have to say as someone who bought a view 10 on day one, this is VERY disappointing to hear. I haven't done it yet as I am new to all of this and wasn't sure what to do. Guess I will have to unlock it now. Well, no more Huawei/Honor for me.
This is definitely my last honor or Huaweii product.
[email protected]_USA said:
Actually that's not all correct. Devices Huawei/Honor released after 5/24 will not be able to unlock bootloaders. If you purchase a device within the 60 day period you can still request an unlock code. If you buy a device after the 60 day period you won't be able to retrieve an unlock code.
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Ok so i don't understand. I bought the device One week ago, so i want to say: Can I use or request an unlock code Forever? I have the unlock code, It will be always the same or could be change after an update?
alboz83 said:
Ok so i don't understand. I bought the device One week ago, so i want to say: Can I use or request an unlock code Forever? I have the unlock code, It will be always the same or could be change after an update?
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The unlock code is based on your IMEI, so you should be able to unlock the bootloader whenever you want. I took the code for my device just in case. I haven't unlock it yet.
I am waiting for you to fix the page to unblock the bootloader, before it went blank and now it lets you type your IMEI, product id, sn ... but when you send it does not do anything, it gives a verification error or ¿?, I don't know, the fact is that it still does not work
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I am waiting for you to fix the page to unblock the bootloader, before it went blank and now it lets you type your IMEI, product id, sn ... but when you send it does not do anything, it gives a verification error or ¿?, I don't know, the fact is that it still does not work
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Just request it via email from any Honor Support site, Germany for instance sends them out. All they need is your IMEI and S/N
The email for the German support site: [email protected]
You should be able to write it in English, if you want to be on the safe side you can simply run it through Google translate and paste the German translation into your email too :fingers-crossed:
Nimueh said:
Just request it via email from any Honor Support site, Germany for instance sends them out. All they need is your IMEI and S/N
The email for the German support site: [email protected]
You should be able to write it in English, if you want to be on the safe side you can simply run it through Google translate and paste the German translation into your email too :fingers-crossed:
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Thank you! Try todo send email to China support , because the Spain Support can't do It, they told me:
"We checked your IMEI and it shows the phone is from China. Unfortunately, we cannot give you the bootloader, code since we only provide them for the region of Spain or Europe. You'll have to wait until the website works again or contact Huawei China"
I asked for China email support and I can't to be able to find the email. I send one but I think that is not correct. :crying:
luisbit said:
Thank you! Try todo send email to China support , because the Spain Support can't do It, they told me:
"We checked your IMEI and it shows the phone is from China. Unfortunately, we cannot give you the bootloader, code since we only provide them for the region of Spain or Europe. You'll have to wait until the website works again or contact Huawei China"
I asked for China email support and I can't to be able to find the email. I send one but I think that is not correct. :crying:
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Well try the German support anyway - a friend of mine is from Pakistan, has the US version of the View 10 and they still sent him the unlock code :fingers-crossed:
Nimueh said:
Well try the German support anyway - a friend of mine is from Pakistan, has the US version of the View 10 and they still sent him the unlock code :fingers-crossed:
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Right now he sent it where you told me because in Spain I was sent to China and the technical service of China does not answer. I've sent it to two or three sites that have been telling me. Let's see if it gives to someone that I'm going crazy. The page to unlock does not work, I'll try again just in case. Thank you!!!
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Right now he sent it where you told me because in Spain I was sent to China and the technical service of China does not answer. I've sent it to two or three sites that have been telling me. Let's see if it gives to someone that I'm going crazy. The page to unlock does not work, I'll try again just in case. Thank you!!!
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Just be patient since they don't work on the weekend. I sent them the email on Sunday and had my code by Monday early afternoon :good:
Let's see if it's true. This error comes out on the page:
English page: "If you have any questions about the unlock code application, please contact us" :silly::silly:
China page: "Your IMEI number is not linked to your account"
Have to wait!!
Thank you!!
Good mobile but very bad support if you bought in China, I do not buy anything from China.
From the support of Spain and from Germany can not do it, they send me to the Chinese support, which does not work (http://consumer.huawei.com/cn/support/service-center/).
Within a year or two hopefully, when they stop updating it, I will not be able to install a ROM. They think I'm going to buy another Huawei or Honor, but no.
The problem is that I do not like mobile phones with Notch or rear fingerprint, or rear glass because I fall quite.
When a brand says one thing and then another, it has no honor, it does not honor its brand
I bought the phone a few days ago and I have not tried anything of what they say, they are making me dizzy, it is complicated they put it.
I will have patience but I have my doubts of being able to get it.
I want to sell it but I like a phone that it comes without Notch, that it is made of metal, with Jack and with a fingerprint in front; there are not many mobile phones like that ... what could I buy with these features?
Huawei say that:
Dear xxxxx,
Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
We are unable to send boot loader code via email and can only be obtained through our website.
If you would want to unlock your phone, you should meet the following conditions:
1. Please register your Huawei ID in our official website http://emui.huawei.com/en/ on your phone.
2. Log in and logout your Huawei ID continuously for 14 days.
3. Each Huawei ID should not apply for the unlock code more than fifth time within 6 months.
If you meet the criteria, please go to https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail and click the 'download ‘button to login your Huawei ID other than any other third party ID to apply for the unlock code. Please contact us by mail or local service hotline as following if error message appears.
TEL: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/index.htm?tag=hotline
Mail: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/contact-us/index.htm?tag=email
Please submit your mobile model, SN, IMEI/MEID and error message in your e-mail. We also need to know that your phone is rooted, it can be out of the best working state and some of the functions may not be able to work normally. In addition, the system is vulnerable to be invaded by viruses once your phone is permitted to unlock. For the lack of testing, third party software may not be compatible with your phone. Unlocking will bring unexpected negative impacts and the device will be not normal, and cannot be restored, Huawei after-sales service office will not provide warranty service for your rooted phone, and you may bear the cost. So we strongly advise you to think twice.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to serve you better. Please help us by taking a few minutes to tell us about the service that you have received so far. We appreciate your feedback and want to make sure we meet your expectations:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/8Z77WBV
Best Regards,
xxxxxxx
Huawei Device Customer Care Team
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I bought the phone a few days ago and I have not tried anything of what they say, they are making me dizzy, it is complicated they put it.
I will have patience but I have my doubts of being able to get it.
I want to sell it but I like a phone that it comes without Notch, that it is made of metal, with Jack and with a fingerprint in front; there are not many mobile phones like that ... what could I buy with these features?
Huawei say that:
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So ... why don't you follow the instructions in the email? Doesn't seem too hard to me and if you want to unlock your bootloader you'll just have to take a deep breath and get started :good:
As many of you will know Huawei pulled the unlock bootloader site. People have since had mixed results emailing them directly for the code. I emailed them for the unlock code yesterday (11th June 2018) and recived the reply copied below.
It certainly clears some things up. Interestingly the bootloader site is back up, albeit for a limited time! You lave 60 days from 24th May before they stop the service! https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail
When you go to unlock via the link they give you this warning: Screenshot https://photos.app.goo.gl/2kcJ2J9gXWpwE8XN9
Personally I think it is a bad move on Huawei's part . If you've not unlocked bootloader and intend to do so I'd jump it it ASAP!
Thank you for contacting Huawei Customer Care.
In response, we would like to inform you that starting May 25th and until July 25th (for 2 months) – the EMUI website will get back the bootloader code search function, for products released before May 25th.
Starting July 25th 2018, the Huawei official policy (as per HQ decision) is to not offer bootloader codes to customers anymore in order to avoid issues that may appear due to ROM flashing, and thus maintain the user’s experience.
The website can be reached here to obtain the bootloader code : https://emui.huawei.com/
We hope this information should prove useful. Should any questions arise, feel free to contact us again.
We remain at your disposal for any other inquiries that you may have.
Best regards,
Ben
Huawei Customer Care UK
mate this whole story is known from almost a month..... lol
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mate this whole story is known from almost a month..... lol
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Oh I'll crawl back under the rock from which I came haha
Does *applying* for the code alone void the warranty? OR can I apply and receive a code, but only void the warrently the moment I unlock it?
Aye there's a few threads about this, I've got one myself.
And I agree with everything in your OP mate.
They'll probably in the future start allowing unlocks.
No one wants a locked down android phone and when it hits their pocket they'll know that.
Unfortunately for p20 pro owners the damage is done and the lack of ROMs is testament to that.
Perhaps if they'd just released one damn variant without all the madness they've forced upon us there would be less problems flashing ROMs I mean look at Oneplus, they actually had twrp as a part of their official root method on their site for the longest time haha and here's Huawei putting their finger up to the people who've done more for Android than anyone.
Apparently we're only 1% of their customer base?
I promise you they'll lose more than 1% sales when the next flagship is released as there will be zero ROMs on here when it does and none of the enthusiastic users here to create a buzz about it.
Beginning of the end and the birth of another Apple.
They'll learn, just like HTC did, if a little late.
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here but I have been swimming through your posts since ever I think
I have a Chinese P20 Pro (CLT-AL01) and I have been trying to obtain the code from the EMUI webpage but no success. I entered all the info that demands but it doesn't give back the code. It shows a message like if you have any problem with the unlocking process just contact us. Maybe it's because the phone is Chinese? Happened to someone?
I contacted them via huawei email today, I will wait a few days and I'll see.
Btw I am trying to rebrand it to the EU version.
gisbby said:
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here but I have been swimming through your posts since ever I think
I have a Chinese P20 Pro (CLT-AL01) and I have been trying to obtain the code from the EMUI webpage but no success. I entered all the info that demands but it doesn't give back the code. It shows a message like if you have any problem with the unlocking process just contact us. Maybe it's because the phone is Chinese? Happened to someone?
I contacted them via huawei email today, I will wait a few days and I'll see.
Btw I am trying to rebrand it to the EU version.
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it could be because it a Chinese version, but not sure - i requested my unlock codes for both my Huawei devices yesterday and got them instantly
walkerx said:
it could be because it a Chinese version, but not sure - i requested my unlock codes for both my Huawei devices yesterday and got them instantly
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Thank you for the answer, they are both from UK I supose?
I fell to a Chinese online shop and I bought it hopping I would able to eliminate all the apps and bloatware (and who knows more...)
gisbby said:
Thank you for the answer, they are both from UK I supose?
I fell to a Chinese online shop and I bought it hopping I would able to eliminate all the apps and bloatware (and who knows more...)
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yes, both devices are UK C782 models
So this happened:
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Dear xxxx,
Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
We are unable to send boot loader code via email and can only be obtained through our website.
If you would want to unlock your phone, you should meet the following conditions:
1. Please register your Huawei ID in our official website xxxxxxxx on your phone.
2. Log in and logout your Huawei ID continuously for 14 days.
3. Each Huawei ID should not apply for the unlock code more than fifth time within 6 months.
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I think the conditions are a bit demanding idk, I am thinking about returning the phone asap. What do you guys think?
That's rubbish, this is reply I got regarding unlock code
Thank you for contacting Huawei Support UK.
In response to your question, we inform that requesting the bootloader will not void the warranty, If you use it, then yes the phone will not have warranty anymore.
Should you require the code, please provide us with the following details:
Device model:
Serial number:
IMEI:
Product ID - dialing *#*#1357946#*#*. If not available, the invoice should be attached.
Reason for the unlock code:
We are looking forward for your reply and let us know if you have any other questions.
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They are making excuses for not giving me the unlock. The worst thing is that I registered the huawei account on the phone yesterday, so in 14 days it will be July 24th and that day they will stop giving the code
Huh?
Can't you just log into the EMUI-Site from the first post and request your code there? It worked for my device a few weeks ago. It was quick and easy.
@walkerx Huawei Support Germany insists that even requesting the code voids the warranty. Of course this is bull and not even legal, but whatever floats their boat I guess.
all the pugs said:
Huh?
Can't you just log into the EMUI-Site from the first post and request your code there? It worked for my device a few weeks ago. It was quick and easy.
@walkerx Huawei Support Germany insists that even requesting the code voids the warranty. Of course this is bull and not even legal, but whatever floats their boat I guess.
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I got that email response from their UK Helpdesk and told them the reasons for it was due to the lack of updates for the devices, incompatibility with certain apps and that they allow UK network operators to take over your devices even when purchased as sim-free, unlocked out of contract and unless they change their attitude towards the UK users and not reverse the unlocking bootloader decision then I will no longer purchase another Huawei device.
I may not unlock until after I swap phones to another model, but I always want that option and do not agree with it being locked down.
I'm also thinking of logging a UK petition online to prevent network operators in the UK from taking control off our devices and re-branding them and deciding whether or not and when we should get updates as these should be left to google or the manufacturers not the network provider. Also like with Apple devices wifi calling features should be standard and work for all networks not just limited and they should not require a specific firmware supplied by the operator for these to work - should be done by network setting only
I'm totally with you on this point. Fortunately, in Germany, most (not all!) providers don't force any unnecessary crap on an unlocked device and don't mess with the firmware. Some do, however.
I would also prefer to be able to unlock an reflash whenever I want to, or get rid of the forced on G-Apps, or fully use tasker to control the device (which you need to be rooted for some certain things).
all the pugs said:
Huh?
Can't you just log into the EMUI-Site from the first post and request your code there? It worked for my device a few weeks ago. It was quick and easy.
@walkerx Huawei Support Germany insists that even requesting the code voids the warranty. Of course this is bull and not even legal, but whatever floats their boat I guess.
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No, I have to wait 14 days they say. The phone is new so I have used it just some days.
Just go ahead and try it out! Can’t anything happen besides the form not putting out a valid code
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Just go ahead and try it out! Can’t anything happen besides the form not putting out a valid code
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I have tried already but all I got was a message saying to wait until the phone has been used that 14 days
Oh, ok, that sucks. I just bought another P20 Pro 2 days ago and wanted to get the code before the service stops. MEH!
https://emui.huawei.com/en/unlock_detail
This url still works fine for me. You used the same one?
Hey, I got a new phone for Christmas, a Huawei P20 !
I'm very happy because my last phone was a moto G and I kept it about 6 years, it looked quite bad after all this time xd.
However I'm a big fan of tweaks and hacks, and the first thing I though after getting my Huawei was to root it. :laugh:
So I went on internet, hoping I would not brick my phone like the first time I tried on my moto G :fingers-crossed:... But I just saw that Huawei had stopped providing bootloader unlock codes.
I desesperately tried everything I saw to get this damn code, but I can't get it.
Some people talk about creating Huawei IDs with Honk Kong as location, but they actually don't ask your location on the sign up page so idk how to make it. Some people talk about programs where you can pay to get the code, but It is just ridiculous and I'm never gonna pay for something I should have free, and which seems to me to be a right.
I sent 2 mails to Huawei support as recommended in the sites I visited, but the only poor answer they gave me after a week was "the service has been stopped, we can no longer give you your code". I'm very deceived because root is a must for me on a phone.
Do you know anything that could help me? Is there any trick you know to get the code and that works, or did you understand the Honk Kong trick ? Thanks
it is really disgusting, it is the worst movement that huawei could do. I am in the same situation, the only thing you can do is to pay 30 eurs to a company.. that surely gets the codes from huawei and then unlock yhe bootloader! I called them, I emailed them and it was a total waste of my time. Moreover I have a **** Rom which is from Movistar provider. We are ****ed mate.
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it is really disgusting, it is the worst movement that huawei could do. I am in the same situation, the only thing you can do is to pay 30 eurs to a company.. that surely gets the codes from huawei and then unlock yhe bootloader! I called them, I emailed them and it was a total waste of my time. Moreover I have a **** Rom which is from Movistar provider. We are ****ed mate.
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There are cheaper sellers online at only 19us$.
Check Global-unlocking-solutions.
That won't help OP who only want a totally free unlock method and won't buy from third-party party seller, as he thinks, as many, that is should be free of any charge.
It's not a nice move for huawei to did so...
But 20 bucks are not so much for a 400 bucks device, so if you want it rooted....
rastakiwi said:
Hey, I got a new phone for Christmas, a Huawei P20 !
I'm very happy because my last phone was a moto G and I kept it about 6 years, it looked quite bad after all this time xd.
However I'm a big fan of tweaks and hacks, and the first thing I though after getting my Huawei was to root it. :laugh:
So I went on internet, hoping I would not brick my phone like the first time I tried on my moto G :fingers-crossed:... But I just saw that Huawei had stopped providing bootloader unlock codes.
I desesperately tried everything I saw to get this damn code, but I can't get it.
Some people talk about creating Huawei IDs with Honk Kong as location, but they actually don't ask your location on the sign up page so idk how to make it. Some people talk about programs where you can pay to get the code, but It is just ridiculous and I'm never gonna pay for something I should have free, and which seems to me to be a right.
I sent 2 mails to Huawei support as recommended in the sites I visited, but the only poor answer they gave me after a week was "the service has been stopped, we can no longer give you your code". I'm very deceived because root is a must for me on a phone.
Do you know anything that could help me? Is there any trick you know to get the code and that works, or did you understand the Honk Kong trick ? Thanks
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Exactly in the same boat as you, got the p20 for Christmas,after having a LG g3 for 4 years. Then I discovered it can't be rooted because they don't want to unlock bootloaders anymore...
This is a shame, I'm gonna go to a Huawei store near home and try to make them spit out my code lol. I'll also look for anything that could help to find the code ourselves. BTW, do you know who exactly seels codes? Are they companies or just hackers? If they are hackers, we are too so we could do that ourselves ahah
Just pony up €20, you cheap bastard!