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After trying to clean the dust gathered in the camera (Thanks HTC for not covering it) my lens got scratched somehow. I can take pictures and haven't noticed any flaws or bad photos but the focus seems a little bit weird now. Close things to the camera don't focus very well and I think it's the scratches fault.
Did anyone here replace their Sensation camera some time? Was it easy? They are cheap at eBay, and I replaced some iPhone cameras before. Or is there some DIY to remove lens scratches? Please let me know what can be done. :banghead:
The sensations camera does not focus well with near objects. So changing the lens may not help.
The front facing camera on my One X is horrible. The selfies are washed out and extremely low res, nowhere near the quality from my Droid Razr that has the same megapixel count. What could cause this? Does the proximity sensor have anything to do with the camera? I have a screen protector and it has a cutout for this sensor but I don't know if the cutout is big enough since I can't see the sensor. I have not taken a picture w/o the screen protector installed. Anything else I should be looking at?
The proximity sensor has nothing to do with the front facing camera. In all honesty, it doesn't take great pictures. You might have some dust built up in there, try cleaning it out with a cotton bud.
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timmaaa said:
The proximity sensor has nothing to do with the front facing camera. In all honesty, it doesn't take great pictures. You might have some dust built up in there, try cleaning it out with a cotton bud.
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Thanks. I did that after doing a search on the issue (which I should have done before my post-my bad) and the difference is night and day. I never would have guessed a lens could get so dirty that it would literally make a camera unusable but now I know it can.
Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
I'm leaving mine on.... Both work for me.
I removed the one over flash, the adhesive and heat it becomes sticky. The one over the camera no problem, up to you.
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jambo89liam said:
Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
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I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
JDM9499 said:
I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
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I agree (except for the part about UV filters on a DSLR, but that's another subject). It is crappy plastic that they use on the sticker and in no way meant to be used as a protective layer for camera shots.
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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jambo89liam said:
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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Ha, had the same problem. Keep trying with your finger nail. You'll eventually get it. Best not to use anything else that could risk scratching it such as a needle, tweezers, filer etc. Just keep at it with your nail. :fingers-crossed:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
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Your totally right just ran my nail over it, the lens itself it not covered.
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whitepaw said:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
JDM9499 said:
Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
It's the edge here. Maybe it differs between edge and normal S6?
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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Have tmobile us version and has hole.
To take those pieces off, use a piece of tape over and peel off.
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Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
kitch9 said:
Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
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Heart rate, and probably not unless the scratch is huge.
sticky tape works best when I removed mine
Just noticed that when things are in the top portion of the picture with the camera tilted down slightly things get distorted. It makes heads oblong and alien looking. Wondering if other people have this same issue or if it's just my phone. So it's really a question of whether the phone is being exchanged or returned.
I've attached two pics. When the tv is in the top portion of the pic it looks a lot taller than when it's in the center of the pic. Both pics were taken from the same distance at the same zoom amount.
Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
s197 said:
Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
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I was gonna say the same! Although mine lately has not been focusing at all unless i shake it. View is immediately blurry, but up close to something it is fine. Like it is stuck in close up. Shake it and seems good. This is before ROOT and playing around. Any ideas?
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Did you take the plastic film off the lens that comes from the factory?
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Did you have a plastic film on your camera? I had one over the fingerprint sensor but if there is one on my camera it's near impossible to detect, I feel like I'm just scratching at the glass although my fingernail is definitely catching on something. I just cant tell if it's the edge of the glass for the camera or a film covering it.
i had the same issue so i boiled my kettle, and held the phone above it after it boiled and let the steam peel the lense sticker.
omgi0wn said:
Did you have a plastic film on your camera? I had one over the fingerprint sensor but if there is one on my camera it's near impossible to detect, I feel like I'm just scratching at the glass although my fingernail is definitely catching on something. I just cant tell if it's the edge of the glass for the camera or a film covering it.
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If you had the plastic on it, you'd know it. It was very noticeable on mine.
droidiac13 said:
If you had the plastic on it, you'd know it. It was very noticeable on mine.
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I really can't tell if it's there, if it is it lines up almost perfectly. It isn't causing me issues for now though so I'm not going to mess with it.
omgi0wn said:
I really can't tell if it's there, if it is it lines up almost perfectly. It isn't causing me issues for now though so I'm not going to mess with it.
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You would notice in the center of the lens. The plastic would have a cut. Once it's off, the lens is perfectly flat across the top.
The plastic was still on, but no change in distortion taking it off. I'm guessing the cutout in the center of the plastic makes it so it doesn't impact photos.
So I tested on my computer monitor and am able to somewhat replicate what is happening in your shots. However, this distortion is natural because you're tilting the camera downwards on its axis. Its called perspective lens distortion and is common to all cameras without a tilt shift lens (a lens that costs several thousand dollars). You should be able to replicate the effect with any camera phone.
Yeah I've noticed distortion in other cameras but it's just not so extreme. On the s6 the distortion makes any pics with the subject on the edge ridiculous and unusable.
I think I've narrowed it down to when the s6 is set up to shoot max resolution at 16:9. When I switch it to 4:3 the distortion is pretty much gone since that distorted area is just cropped out but that reduces it from 16mp to 12mp. Other phone cameras I've had (moto x 2nd gen and s3) crop the other way (max resolution at 4:3 and then crop to get 16:9).
So the s6 presumably has a 16:9 sensor where the others had 4:3. But the extra width is pretty much unusable.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. What's the point of having a 16mp camera if you can only effectively use 12mp?
Any update on this? I was hoping there's a post processing software in Android/Windows/OSX that can compensate for the lens distortion even though it'll reduced the resolution a bit. I have a AT&T Galaxy S6.
I tried DXO Optics Pro 8, and it works very good for shots from my Nikon D7000 to un-alienize the faces, but there are no modules for the Galaxy S6 lens.
The more I read, the more it seems that P7P users have got a bad Lens Flare issue on the X1 Lens.
Out of curiosity, how many users here have the issue themselves?
I used to have the Mate 20 Pro for 4 years and the Lens Flare wasn't that bad in comparison to the P7P.
I'll add that I don't have a lens cover over my cameras and the glass is clean.
Everyone, that's just the nature of the beast.
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The more I read, the more it seems that P7P users have got a bad Lens Flare issue on the X1 Lens.
Out of curiosity, how many users here have the issue themselves?
I used to have the Mate 20 Pro for 4 years and the Lens Flare wasn't that bad in comparison to the P7P.
I'll add that I don't have a lens cover over my cameras and the glass is clean.
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That's not an "issue", everyone has the lens flare. It only depends on the light angle and how it hits the lens.
It's pretty bad. I took some comparison photos with my S21 before I sent it in for trade and the flare was awful. And non-existent on the Samsung photos.
This was taken with a Canon DSLR and a £2000 Canon L lens, there are always circumstances where it is going to happen.
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It's pretty bad. I took some comparison photos with my S21 before I sent it in for trade and the flare was awful. And non-existent on the Samsung photos. View attachment 5762543View attachment 5762541
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Different focal lengths though so not a fair comparison.
MrBelter said:
This was taken with a Canon DSLR and a £2000 Canon L lens, there are always circumstances where it is going to happen.
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If it happens in some circumstances and only once in a while, its OK. But I think p7p has a permanent problem.
One request for folks who experience it: can you try a case (or any other way) which covers most of the aluminum? I think the reflections off the aluminum are adding to the flare phenomenon.
IMO, going with shiny metal around the lens was not a smart choice by google. Get the wrong curves on that part and it can mess with the light that goes into the lens.
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If it happens in some circumstances and only once in a while, its OK. But I think p7p has a permanent problem.
One request for folks who experience it: can you try a case (or any other way) which covers most of the aluminum? I think the reflections off the aluminum are adding to the flare phenomenon.
IMO, going with shiny metal around the lens was not a smart choice by google. Get the wrong curves on that part and it can mess with the light that goes into the lens.
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It does only happen in some circumstances though and only once in a while on the Pixel 7 Pro to be fair and those circumstances are using the 1X lens while it pointing it at something very bright and this is when lens flare is always a risk.
The problem is a lack of any anti reflection coating on the glass covering the lens, it is just plain glass sadly. I have wondered if we could use something as a lens hood which should help dramatically with the issue as it stops light from falling across the lens.
FWIW i have a black skin over my camera bar, it certainly made a difference one the P6P but it makes no difference whatsoever on the P7P
Using a different focal length other than 1X the problem is much, much less noticeable.
I see the issue across all lenses. That's why I think its the metal, not the lenses or the glass covering the lenses!
Any kind of coating will reduce the amount of light that the lens can capture. Is anti-reflective coating an industry standard across lenses?
hmm....quick google suggests that lack of anti reflective coatings on lenses may be the reason for this unusual issue. Which means that we are stuck with it...
And it does look like that anti reflective coating is the norm and it actually increases the light that reaches the sensor....Why would google hardware not do this? go figure!
devsk said:
I see the issue across all lenses. That's why I think its the metal, not the lenses or the glass covering the lenses!
Any kind of coating will reduce the amount of light that the lens can capture. Is anti-reflective coating an industry standard across lenses?
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As i said, i have a black skin on my camera bar, there is no metal showing.
Any lens worth its salt be it camera or glasses will have an anti-reflective coating.
Why Lens Coatings Are So Important in Photography
A look at the science of camera lens coatings and how they improve optics while reducing things like lens flares in photographs.
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devsk said:
hmm....quick google suggests that lack of anti reflective coatings on lenses may be the reason for this unusual issue. Which means that we are stuck with it...
And it does look like that anti reflective coating is the norm and it actually increases the light that reaches the sensor....Why would google hardware not do this? go figure!
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They have on the lenses, they just didn't bother on the class covering them.
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They have on the lenses, they just didn't bother on the class covering them.
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Any idea if it can be applied after the fact from the outside? Or is it something that has to be cured into the glass before putting it on the frame?
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Any idea if it can be applied after the fact from the outside? Or is it something that has to be cured into the glass before putting it on the frame?
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That i don't know, i wouldn't want to risk buggering the whole thing up myself as any coating has to bond to the glass and getting it back off could be difficult.
The fix may be as simple as holding your hand above the lens like a simple lens hood to prevent light scatter.
I went to a Christmas light switch on last night and the lens flare and the simple reflections you get from the plain glass doesn't half make you study the scene to try to get around it, that in its self makes spontaneous street photography at night difficult.