The dual-form nature of this item would fit a dual-boot scenario perfectly. Boot into Android when used as a tablet, boot into Ubuntu when docked. Just curious as to the possibility of this.
As far as I know, Ubuntu supports ARM architecture, so the Tegra 2 chip should work well with it. I'm not familiar with the touch screen driver support in Ubuntu, but I remember when I modded my old EeePC netbook with a touch screen, I was able to install third party touch screen drivers without any problem. Then again, even if the touchscreen won't work, when docked it has the mouse and keyboard anyway.
Are there any devs working on this, or know what the feasibility of such an endeavor would be?
Thanks!
Let me know when I can dual boot into Linux Mint.
I'm wondering if the webtop from atrix can be ported to work here.
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PGibbons999 said:
Let me know when I can dual boot into Linux Mint.
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Linux Mint is based off of Ubuntu, so if you can get one working, you can get the other. However, vanilla Ubuntu has three times the user base, so I feel that would be the best bet, considering the much larger community support.
Definitely should be a project someone works on
Should be very easy to boot ubuntu alongside android. Got a lot of spare ram on these systems.
This of course means running ubuntu with a vnc server, and connecting to localhost. Which is far from optimal. But it works atleast. That's what I plan to do when I get the tablet.
Hell with wireless adb there's a decent chance I'll be able to run up eclipse and build apps directly to and from the tablet
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Hell with wireless adb there's a decent chance I'll be able to run up eclipse and build apps directly to and from the tablet
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Not unless we get an ARM SDK. There is nothing I would like more than to be able to develop for my tablet on my tablet, but right now it is not possible, even with Ubuntu.
Ubuntu 11.04 was just released with the new Unity interface standardized. I'm not sure how well the Tegra 2 can handle it, but there's also Unity 2D, which looks great.
And the touchscreen interface looks lovely:
http://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/utouch/
I'm getting excited, I really hope we can get this working!
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Should be very easy to boot ubuntu alongside android. Got a lot of spare ram on these systems.
This of course means running ubuntu with a vnc server, and connecting to localhost. Which is far from optimal. But it works atleast. That's what I plan to do when I get the tablet.
Hell with wireless adb there's a decent chance I'll be able to run up eclipse and build apps directly to and from the tablet
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This was already done on the Xoom I believe.
ZaelFaroe said:
Not unless we get an ARM SDK. There is nothing I would like more than to be able to develop for my tablet on my tablet, but right now it is not possible, even with Ubuntu.
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A very good point :/, oh well. I can still do my normal development
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A very good point :/, oh well. I can still do my normal development
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From what I understand, Eclipse is actually built entirely on Java. Is anyone aware of a full java environment for ARM Linux?
The problem isn't eclipse being based on Java, the problem is the Android SDK plug-in (which specifies x86). It could be that you only need x86 for the emulator or for the USB drivers (I don't know), but it could also be something else where none of the plug-in will work on ARM. You could probably do development (write code), but you probably couldn't compile to apk or test at all. People on PPC Macs already have this issue. It appears that the source code for the SDK is publicly available so maybe we could get it working, but I think that might be more effort than it is worth at this point in time.
But this is getting off topic. We need Ubuntu (or other full linux distro) before the rest of this is even remotely possible.
They have Ubuntu working on some of the old Windows Mobile phones (check out the HTC Touch Pro 2 / Rhodium). Isn't that an ARM based CPU?
Yes, Ubuntu should have no problem working on ARM. The only questions on Ubuntu are the drivers and bootloader.
Getting linux up and running shouldn't be hard. It's done on most modern cell phones already. And the cut down versions are normally due to limitations in hardware.
The only part that sucks is the vnc localhost solution which is generally being deployed, it's not exactly optimal performance wise.
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The only part that sucks is the vnc localhost solution which is generally being deployed, it's not exactly optimal performance wise.
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The best way to deal with this problem would probably to get X11 working with Android's graphics stack (mostly OpenGL) as a backend- sort of like Xephyr, or Wayland's embedding of X11 (basing the work on Wayland's work might be the easiest, since they already use OpenGL ES).
That should deliver near-native performance, with full hardware acceleration.
I'd think the best way to structure it would be to have an app you launch within Android that connects to the X11 server and just pushes the final image to the screen (akin to what Wayland does). That should make it reasonable practical to move between Android and Unity (/Gnome/KDE/etc) without too much weirdities.
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For doing Android development on Android, until there's a native SDK, you could use X11's network transparency to be running Eclipse on a remote machine via SSH, using port forwarding to allow the remote machine to connect back over the tunnel for ADB. It's ugly, but it should work (assuming you have a network connection... and a working x11!).
Initially thought this would be a huge reverse enginering job, but look and behold : http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/news/linux-tegra-released !
Did anyone actually tried to run any Linux distro on it?
Is there any dev working on the question ?
Having a Android/Ubuntu tablet with an actual removable keyboard good me a huge advantage in terms of productivity/entertainment share... !!
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Is there any dev working on the question ?
Having a Android/Ubuntu tablet with an actual removable keyboard good me a huge advantage in terms of productivity/entertainment share... !!
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+1 for that
I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
The only thing I know about is Launcher 7. Don't know how it would look on a tablet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImluZm8udGlrdXdhcmV6LmxhdW5jaGVyMyJd
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I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
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windows is closed source so the easy answer is no, you will never see that.
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The only thing I know about is Launcher 7. Don't know how it would look on a tablet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwyLDEsImluZm8udGlrdXdhcmV6LmxhdW5jaGVyMyJd
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Looks like this is only available on phones... It won't allow me to install on the Tab 2 10.1, but I am gonna try it out on my phone, might be fun to play with. I am also going to try out the Splashtop Win8 Metro Testbed when I get home, looks like it could be a good alternative...
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I know that they utilize different processors, but i didn't know if anyone has seen or heard of any one installing windows 8 on the Tab 2 10.1? I would love to set up my tablet to run both operating systems, but I haven't been able to find anyone with Windows 8 on their Tab yet... Does it sounds like something that might be possible in the future?
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Since win8 is closed source, chances are no. If they somehow open it up then good chance yes.
Splashtop Windows 8 Testbed
OK, so I think I found something that will do the trick. Its called splashtop and it streams your windows 8 on a PC to your tablet. And quite well I might add. I haven't tried it via internet but via local network it works great... I really dig it... not to mention it finally forced me to play around with the new windows OS...
why
why we have windows when we have open stable updated android os?
Don't get me wrong, i love ICS, but I also wanted to test out the windows 8 touchscreen abilities without having to buy a windows tablet.
Hi there,
The app you're using in an RDP or VNC app, which will stream your login sessions to your android. You can try also LogMeIn, PocketCloud, etc. There's quite a bunch of those apps you can use. But its really not the same as having Windows 8 as the OS of your tablet.
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OK, so I think I found something that will do the trick. Its called splashtop and it streams your windows 8 on a PC to your tablet. And quite well I might add. I haven't tried it via internet but via local network it works great... I really dig it... not to mention it finally forced me to play around with the new windows OS...
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is the app have a fee on it ?
please help me on this link
WinRT8.1
Windows RT 8.1 is built for devices running ARM architecture the only problem is that you can only install it on devices that already has windows on it. So if you could figure out a way to install it on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 tablet I'm pretty sure it would work.
You can't.
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Hi!
I heard there is Android Phones with integrated Ubuntu Desktop. They have like a docking station with HDMI and USB support. Is this working good? What Phones do support this? What do you recommend?
Thanks!
romanijem said:
Hi!
I heard there is Android Phones with integrated Ubuntu Desktop. They have like a docking station with HDMI and USB support. Is this working good? What Phones do support this? What do you recommend?
Thanks!
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No phones currently support it (infact Ubuntu for Android has never been released in any form), some motorola devices do have 'webtop' which is basicly a stripped down linux install with firefox running.
But you may be interested in my project (See sig) which allows you to install and run a range of linux distros on pertty much any rooted android device
wow
I was just wondering if there are any people who installed an other OS than windows 8 on the Surface pro 2, like Ubuntu, fedora, Linux Mint, openSUSE or Android...?
Ubuntu worked on SUrface Pro 1 (not perfect, but it worked...), so whats with the sp2?
there wasnt any issue with ubuntu on SP1 besides drivers for touch/wacom. Both the surface pro and pro 2 are normal windows laptops essentially shoved into a small frame and both wacom and capacitive digitisers stuck over the top. There is nothing bizarre or strange about them preventing another operating system from running.
I read there were also WiFi-Issues... Have anyone installed Ubuntu or Fedora and can make a short Video?
THanks, fredopato
fredopato said:
I read there were also WiFi-Issues... Have anyone installed Ubuntu or Fedora and can make a short Video?
THanks, fredopato
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That would also come under drivers, although I did overlook WiFi
Hello everybody!
There are some people talking about using external USB dongle on non-3G version of NEXUS-7 or -10 through PPP protocol. but until now, It seems that nobody is talking about using CDC-ACM to connect an old phone to the internet.
I am simply curious of Howto, because according to the experience I got from openwrt platform, old phone like Nokia E series, acting as ACM device under Linux, is even easier to use to get internet occasionally. it needs no PPP dialing part. I think a lot of people still keep a old Nokia phone(it is not so easy to break them right?), for those Pads without 3G module, I believe using CDC-ACM class driver is quite handy.
I would really appreciate any information you give!