I'm planning on getting a Moto G and putting it on my current Metro account. Currently, with my Motion 4G, I'm on the $50 plan with 2.5 gig of 4G (LTE) speed, but unlimited data. Now, I know that the Moto G isn't LTE, it just gets HSPA+21. Do you know if Metro will consider the G as a 4G phone? What I'm trying to figure out here, is if I can go down to the $40 plan and not worry about Metro keeping track of my 4G usage since this phone doesn't get "4G".
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I'm sick of my Sprint service dropping calls and would like to switch to Verizon. I can stomach the ETF, but new phones aren't in the budget for now. I have a Motorola XPRT and an HTC Evo 4G. Can these be activated on Verizon's 3G network? Would I need to root / install CyanogenMod? 4G isn't a priority.
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Verizon won't enter the ESN into their billing system. You could get a prepaid from verizon then use CDMA workshop to copy the settings to your Xpert BUT cdma workshop will cost you 108 bucks.
you MIGHT be able to use the EVO 4G but you will not get EVDO data to work from what I have been reading.
Can I simply switch my iPhone 4s Microsim to the HOX, or do I need to change plans? I was looking online at my available data plans and they are all marked as "iPhone" data plans.
You need update your data plan to LTE plan. Or else your data won't work.
foxbat121 said:
You need update your data plan to LTE plan. Or else your data won't work.
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What if you change the apn? Will u get 3g/hspa+?
barondebxl said:
What if you change the apn? Will u get 3g/hspa+?
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The only APN you can change to is 3G (wap.cingular), not HSPA+ which also requires your data plan to be updated to 4G or LTE.
But update your data plan doesn't change your data cap or pricing. It is just a way for AT&T to verify your existing data plan and add an authorization. This is to prevent those who has the old non-smartphone data plan ($10 to $15/mo for unlimited) to take advantage of new faster network.
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The only APN you can change to is 3G (wap.cingular), not HSPA+ which also requires your data plan to be updated to 4G or LTE.
But update your data plan doesn't change your data cap or pricing. It is just a way for AT&T to verify your existing data plan and add an authorization. This is to prevent those who has the old non-smartphone data plan ($10 to $15/mo for unlimited) to take advantage of new faster network.
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One more question, if I have an AT&T gophone plan with 1gb of data, can I insert my sim in any 4g LTE smartphone ( AT&T galaxy note, lumia 900, HTC vivid or HTC one x) and get 3 g speeds if I put the right apn?
barondebxl said:
One more question, if I have an AT&T gophone plan with 1gb of data, can I insert my sim in any 4g LTE smartphone ( AT&T galaxy note, lumia 900, HTC vivid or HTC one x) and get 3 g speeds if I put the right apn?
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Yes, you can. At least for a while until AT&T catches you. AT&T is now actively scan the go phones for violations. AT&T branded 4G and LTE phones can't be used with go phone without a separate, much more expensive data plan. If your phone is AT&T branded, the detection rate will be 100% because AT&T has your IMEI in the database.
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Yes, you can. At least for a while until AT&T catches you. AT&T is now actively scan the go phones for violations. AT&T branded 4G and LTE phones can't be used with go phone without a separate, much more expensive data plan. If your phone is AT&T branded, the detection rate will be 100% because AT&T has your IMEI in the database.
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Thanks a lot man it helps. Damn so they might cut me off if I buy the one x and use their it on a gophone. But why do they care if I buy the phone outright and just use the 3G gophone speeds?
barondebxl said:
Thanks a lot man it helps. Damn so they might cut me off if I buy the one x and use their it on a gophone. But why do they care if I buy the phone outright and just use the 3G gophone speeds?
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1. Just because they can
2. 3G and 4G HSPA+ is the same network. And that's the same network that is heavily congested. They can't afford ppl take a faster 4G phone to use a lot of bandwidth without paying the expensive data plan for it. GoPhone plans are caculated based on the assumption that you use a dumb phone or old/slow smartphone that can't suck down data that fast.
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1. Just because they can
2. 3G and 4G HSPA+ is the same network. And that's the same network that is heavily congested. They can't afford ppl take a faster 4G phone to use a lot of bandwidth without paying the expensive data plan for it. GoPhone plans are caculated based on the assumption that you use a dumb phone or old/slow smartphone that can't suck down data that fast.
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Got you. Thanks very much for the info. I might just buy the international version cause I don't wanna pay full price for the device and run into some issues with AT&T. Too bad I really wanted the S4 chip...Oh well. Thanks again dude!
Thanks for all the replies, i'll be switching my plan once my new phone comes in. Just a few more days!
Don't forget to disable iMessage before you change phones
Sometimes people with iPhones won't be able to text you because your iMessage would still be active
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im never in an LTE area as I am in CT. Wouldnt it make sense for me not to change my 4g hsdpa plan to the LTE Plan that way it never connects to LTE , Thus no battery drain?
aimetti said:
im never in an LTE area as I am in CT. Wouldnt it make sense for me not to change my 4g hsdpa plan to the LTE Plan that way it never connects to LTE , Thus no battery drain?
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The battery drain would be caused by the radio hardware in the device searching for a signal, regardless what plan you have- the phone is programmed to search for that signal. Also, I think AT&T will try to bump you to an LTE plan based off of the phone's IMEI number accessing its towers, like they did with the HSPA "4G" (data capped) plans with some Atrix users last year.
Hello Folks,
I know the Moto G only supports HSPA (3G+), If i have the USA GSM edition, would i be better off with the Straight Talk, TMobile Sim or the ATT sim given the frequencies to take advantage of the speeds ?
I live in the Los Angele's area
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Pete
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pasta1234 said:
Hello Folks,
I know the Moto G only supports HSPA (3G+), If i have the USA GSM edition, would i be better off with the Straight Talk, TMobile Sim or the ATT sim given the frequencies to take advantage of the speeds ?
I live in the Los Angele's area
Thanks,
Pete
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Doesn't matter if you have the usa model. Tmobile is fast but coverage is spotty in rural locations.
I'd use opensignal's maps to make your mind up.
If you go with att, you can go through aio and get it for $150, but they had it for $99 so I wouldn't buy it through them.
Well opensignals maps and other don't differentiate between service (in 3g and 4g) and hspa+.
Since the moto g is technically only capable of hspa+ is there a way to tell if my area is better suited for tmo or att services?
Straight talk is cheaper than aio also, any reason I'd use them over St for the same services?
Thanks,
Pete
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Doesn't matter if you have the usa model. Tmobile is fast but coverage is spotty in rural locations.
I'd use opensignal's maps to make your mind up.
If you go with att, you can go through aio and get it for $150, but they had it for $99 so I wouldn't buy it through them.
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I have an XT1034 (US GSM 16 GB) and am on Straight Talk.
I currently have an AT&T SIM card in the phone and get solid coverage wherever I go in Pennsylvania. My data is decent but does slow down throughout the day. I assume I'm being throttled, but I'm not complaining since I typically use several gigs a day.
I originally had a T-Mobile SIM in and while my data would drop to 1X in some areas during my commute I got better speeds and was not throttled (but at the time I was not using as much data).
So to summarize it depends on your usage and location. If you pick up one of the BYOD kits at Wal Mart for $65 you can try both networks and see which works best.
Thanks Folks...Ordered the ATT sim, lets see how it goes
Pete
Guys, I will be getting a new Moto G LTE edition next week, and I want to use it on the T-Mobile 30$ unlimited text & data & 100minutes talk offer from WalMart.
My question about that unlimited data is if it offers LTE at all .
(I read 250MB of LTE before but they changed things with the new 40$ plan which I don't want because of no data after using the 500MB of LTE)
If not, then I wonder what speeds would we get on HSPA+ in it in big cities (Boston here).
Does anyone have any info?
Hey folks, well i'm with metropcs currently and thinking of switching to cricket - metropcs offers a 60/month unlimited data plan, cricket offers 60/month with 10 gigs high speed. i am wondering, after one has used their allotted 10 gigs high speed, how slow is the data throttled, can anyone report? Metropcs would be ok but the signals not too good where i live, among other factors.
thanks!
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Hey folks, well i'm with metropcs currently and thinking of switching to cricket - metropcs offers a 60/month unlimited data plan, cricket offers 60/month with 10 gigs high speed. i am wondering, after one has used their allotted 10 gigs high speed, how slow is the data throttled, can anyone report? Metropcs would be ok but the signals not too good where i live, among other factors.
thanks!
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if you currently have unlimited connection even with "not that good" coverage, it's not a good idea to change to cricket
and please try finding a more relevant thread to post your question at
I live in Georgia and cricket is a good service. I can get signal almost everywhere that my Verizon gets and plus with the new Verizon teer plans this is prolly a better deal.
I have a friend who uses Cricket. He uses it because he's in a large city and gets decent reception, but as someone else mentioned, the data speeds are not that great. I don't know if they're 2G or what, but he is always complaining that his phone is taking forever to load. So it all depends on what you're using the phone for mostly. If you NEED fast data, might need to look elsewhere.
As far as I know, new Cricket plans use the AT&T network. I seem to recall reading they cap 3G at 4mps and LTE at 8mps within your data allowance, and drop you to 2G speeds when it's up. New MetroPCS activations use T-mobile, and I don't know anything about throttling practices. I know nothing about either the old Cricket or MetroPCS CDMA networks or plans. If you do have a CDMA device on Metro, it will stop working soon if it hasn't already as T-mobile decommissions the CDMA network.