[Q] Original Surface Pro - Few Questions - Microsoft Surface

Pricing for the original Surface Pro is very good now ($429 for a 64 GB with Original Touch Cover. I'm wondering if the 8.1 upgrade fixed some of the original issues, in particular the short battery life.
Anyone have some experience or can shed some light on this? IMHO, $429 for a such a piece of stellar hardware is very attractive.

docfreed said:
Pricing for the original Surface Pro is very good now ($429 for a 64 GB with Original Touch Cover. I'm wondering if the 8.1 upgrade fixed some of the original issues, in particular the short battery life.
Anyone have some experience or can shed some light on this? IMHO, $429 for a such a piece of stellar hardware is very attractive.
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The battery life isn't fixed because the issue spawns from the lacklustre 3rd gen i5 CPU the SP1 has. If you wouldn't mind having your SP1 sitting close to a charger all day, definitely go for it

The power cover coming out may nullify the battery issue (or it may not).

8.1 will slightly improve the battery life (software optimizations), but not much. The Power Cover should add about 1.5-2 hours from what I've heard, which makes the original Pro + Power Cover competitive with the Pro2 (sans cover).

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MediaPad X2 vs LeTV Max

Hello there!
I'm looking into buying a new phone and those 2 phones in the title called my attention. I'm coming from a Z Ultra so both of them look great to me.
The LeTV Max seems like the better alternative, but let's run down the specs of both of them (mediapad x2 on the left and letv max on the right)
CPU:
Kirin 930 (4x 2GHz and 4x 1.5GHz) x Snapdragon 810 (4x 2GHz and 4x 1.5GHz)
RAM:
3GB x 4GB
Screen size:
7" x 6,33"
Screen resolution:
1200x1920 x 1440x2560
Back Camera:
13MP x 21MP
Battery:
5000 mAh x 3400 mAh
As expected, the LeTV Max wins most of the categories but do they make that much of a difference? Would the +1GB of RAM be a good addition? The screen resolution bump is also pretty interesting, since the MediaPad x2 is going at a 323 ppi and the LeTV Max is at 464. The monster battery on the MediaPad x2 also gets me happy, and knowing that it's not pushing out as many pixels as the LeTV Max (despise the screen size difference) makes it look like it will last longer. Coming from a Z Ultra, the only thing that I really NEED on a camera is flash (the Z Ultra's camera is ok at best) but I don't really require that much quality since I rarely use it.
What do you guys think? For the people that already got a MediaPad x2, are you happy with it? Would you change to a LeTV Max if you had the chance?
Screen size is everything so I would go for the X2.
Plus you have support from XDA for the X2.
I am actually considering upgrading to an 8.0 inch MediaPad M2!
If you only look at the basic specs, the LeTV Max "looks" better. More memory, higher resolution screen, slightly faster CPU, faster GPU, compacter...
But there is also where it ends. The 810 is a know throttle monster that easily hits its thermal limits ( what most manufactures solve by limiting the SOC ). Its also not exactly friendly on the battery. My X2 even after hours of playing Fallout Shelter ( what is a know battery eater ), was just "warm". Not hot, just warm. I doubt that the same can be said about the 810 in the LeTV.
1440x2560? I do not care... On the X2 7" 1080p, you need to have 21/20 eyesight to see the pixels or have the phone right in front of your eyes. What people forget it, that the higher resolution = less space for light to pass = more / higher back light is needed = more power usage. And my eyesight is 20/20.
4GB Ram ... everybody love more ram. But lets be realistic... on my Sony ZU, i always had a health 500+ MB ( 0.5GB ) free in regards to ram ( comparing Android 5 on both systems ). And that was with a device that had two years worth of programs active. On my X2, i have between 1.7GB and 1.8GB free. So assuming the same program load like the ZU, there will be close to 1.5GB ( X2 had 1GB more ram then the ZU ) still free. That means on the LeTV, your looking at 2.5GB memory free with the same load. Nice ...
Camera ... If you come from a ZU, anything is a massive upgrade *lol*...
And now we come to the real reason to own the X2: 5000 mAh x 3400 mAh ...
Its not just 50% more battery power. The ZU also had a 3050mAh battery. Yet, my own battery results are more then impressive. So far the X2 is hitting 2 a 3 times the battery life consistently against then ( 2 year old ) ZU.
Technology has improved... While the X2 has a bigger screen, it seems to be more power efficient. The SOC is designed around those power efficient cores from bottom to top. Its a monster, not just pure on battery but in regards to battery life.
My best proof are some of the basic usage test i did before.
Screen on ( ZU: 45%, X2: 50% ( brighter then ZU to compensate the battery somewhat )), no activity.
ZU: Lost about 11% in 75 minutes.
X2: Lost about 4% in 75 minutes.
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And i forgot that i still had the GPS on for the X2. *oeps*. And the GPS like most receivers/transmitters are more battery eaters.
Real life battery:
On 25/08 at 21.30 i charged up the battery to 100%.
We are 28/08 around 22.30 and my battery is ... 68%.
In that time i spend around 20 minutes calling ( 2 * 10 min ), checking wechat, some quick surfing on 4G, doing some basic battery testing ( one day with 4G+Wifi, one day with 2G+Wifi, one day with 2G. And Wifi on at night ) and a bunch of other thing. For this same amount of time, my ZU will hit 15% on the battery left, with only 4G on during the day and Wifi at night.
Its a battery life monster! And thanks to some testing, i found that the best combination is:
Set 2G when your at work and only need to check wechat or other chat messages. 4G drains twice as much. Enable 4G only when you need to surf. For basic text chatting 2G is the same effect as 4G, you do not notice the difference ...
Wifi/basic phone active drains about 3 a 4% in about 12 hours at night/morning.
2G/basic phone active / some times chatting during the day ( at work ), drains about 3 a 4% ( depends on the intensity that you chat/check/etc ) in +- 9 hours.
So with this combination, found that i can survive 24 hours, using maybe 6 a 8%, 10% in extreme for basic thing that i did before with my ZU, that took out maybe 30 a 40% ( yes, its not accurate because the ZU was using 4G all the time during the day ).
But to get back to the basic comparison:
The LeTV has a maybe more powerful CPU, GPU, more memory and higher resolution smaller screen combined with a smaller batter. Do the math? You know that your battery life at best will be "average". If you can live with that, then the LeTV is for you. But if you are like me, fed up with average battery life, then the X2 is way more up your alley.
Frankly, i do not know of any device that offers this size, battery life and still has phone capability... Beyond the X1 but that is running older A9 Cpu cores. The X2 beats the ZU with 25% in Antutu and frankly, i notice no slowdowns or other problems. And regarding faster GPU's. Sorry, but what do you care about the GPU? Those 3d games kill any device its battery, for what? If you want to really game, there are PC's, Console etc, where you can more enjoy the 3D experience. I found devices like this better with games that are more designed for the platform ( hard to explain ).
O and here is other a counter argument:
PRICE! X2 for 3GB/32GB = 399 Euro. The LeTV Max cheapest i found is 620 euro's... And i was lucky and was able to buy my X2 in a auction at 341 euro
I long time learned that specs alone do not make a good device, its the combination of those specs. I am frankly fed up with phone's that has a zillion "look how fast or how big resolution or " ... but they forget to mention that those things in general eat battery life and force people to spend every two or one! day recharging there phone. And the more you recharge, the more your battery capacity goes down. Fun these days with non-replaceable batteries.
Speaking of non-replaceable batteries. How is the LeTV its battery replacement? Also non-removable like most devices these days. I ask because the ZU its a disaster... you need to heatgun the glass to remove the glue, and then deal with a annoying flat cable. The X2 its just popping off some plastic, a few screws and you can simply unplug the power connector. The X2 battery replacement anybody can do.
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That's exactly what I had in mind. When I was buying the Z Ultra I was able to test and research it better since it was from a known brand. But for the X2 I'm having trouble coming across more specific informations. What you said is what I'm looking for.
The LeTV seems like a pain to repair and it's design looks boring. The specs were buying me but it's pretty much what you said, it's the combination of everything ( and the x2 looks pretty as hell). The only down side for me would be not having a water proof phone like the Ultra but it's something I can get over since it's not a priority for me.
I'll still wait for IFA to see if anything else comes up but the X2 is a strong participant in my choice ( and it's one of the few choices I can actually buy where I live). Thanks for the tips!
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Screen size is everything so I would go for the X2.
Plus you have support from XDA for the X2.
I am actually considering upgrading to an 8.0 inch MediaPad M2!
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If I were going for that, I would just go with one of those cheap 6" phablets with 720p screens, haha. The M2 is pretty overkill for me ( really pretty but still). I can still fit my Ultra on my pockets nicely so the X2 should be good, as far as size goes.
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That's exactly what I had in mind. When I was buying the Z Ultra I was able to test and research it better since it was from a known brand. But for the X2 I'm having trouble coming across more specific informations. What you said is what I'm looking for.
The LeTV seems like a pain to repair and it's design looks boring. The specs were buying me but it's pretty much what you said, it's the combination of everything ( and the x2 looks pretty as hell). The only down side for me would be not having a water proof phone like the Ultra but it's something I can get over since it's not a priority for me.
I'll still wait for IFA to see if anything else comes up but the X2 is a strong participant in my choice ( and it's one of the few choices I can actually buy where I live). Thanks for the tips!
If I were going for that, I would just go with one of those cheap 6" phablets with 720p screens, haha. The M2 is pretty overkill for me ( really pretty but still). I can still fit my Ultra on my pockets nicely so the X2 should be good, as far as size goes.
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I looked at the LeTv when searching for large phablets. It's smaller screen size and puny battery turned me off. All these spec wars mean nothing. 1080p vs 2k in a small screen means nothing. 3gb vs 4gb in an Android phone mean nothing if I don't see a performance boost. The X2 is without a doubt the best all around large phone/tablet out there right now. Huawei is a more well known brand especially now that they are making the next Nexus phone.
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I looked at the LeTv when searching for large phablets. It's smaller screen size and puny battery turned me off. All these spec wars mean nothing. 1080p vs 2k in a small screen means nothing. 3gb vs 4gb in an Android phone mean nothing if I don't see a performance boost. The X2 is without a doubt the best all around large phone/tablet out there right now. Huawei is a more well known brand especially now that they are making the next Nexus phone.
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Yea, it's what I thought but when you get almost no reviews and comments about a phone, the specs are the only thing I can use for a guide on this. Huawei is a known brand, just not like Sony. The Z ultra had tons of reviews and feedback when it came out, but I could only find 1 review and many unboxings/ hands on. Thanks for the help!
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That's exactly what I had in mind. When I was buying the Z Ultra I was able to test and research it better since it was from a known brand. But for the X2 I'm having trouble coming across more specific informations. What you said is what I'm looking for.
The LeTV seems like a pain to repair and it's design looks boring. The specs were buying me but it's pretty much what you said, it's the combination of everything ( and the x2 looks pretty as hell). The only down side for me would be not having a water proof phone like the Ultra but it's something I can get over since it's not a priority for me.
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Water proof is one of those oversold features. Do you use your smartphone in the shower? Do you use your smartphone while swimming ( by the way, Sony does not advice trying out the water proof in anything but clean water because chloor or salt = bad )? Its more of a annoy always opening up that usb cover. In all my life i never lost a phone because of water damage. If it rains, you do not use the phone. Simple as that. Or you use it under a umbrella. A bit of rain on the screen of the X2 or any non-water proof phone, will not destroy it. Its all pressed together. I found the water proof more of a excuse so they do not need to install a removable battery. And having it replaced by the manufacture ... awwwwww... Same reason why i sold my ZU: It will cost more to replace the battery by Sony ( and you STILL lose your water proof protection because even Sony can not guarantee that when they re-glue it, it will be water proof! ).
The X2 feel nice in the hand. I was planning on buying a case but i like the heavy metal feel instead of that glass feel that ZU had. It feels more robust. You do not feel like it will break and you need a protector. Disadvantage is that the metal is also slippery. Frankly, i like to get some plastic protector for the back of the X2, that is "grippy". The funny part being is, the X2 feels more premium with the metal, then the ZU.
I now just use the default protection plastic that was on it ( put it back ) and it gives more grip. But its not clean ( full of explanation text *lol* )
For the rest ... if you come from the ZU, its a bit of adjustment. The X2 is only 1cm thicker on the side, but it gives a massive visual difference. The X2 looks BIG, compared to the ZU. Yet, its only 1 cm difference. Its that optical illusion effect from long & slender.
Worst part is probably the default launcher and DPI. Its set to 400 default and that is crazy. 280 is perfect for this device but it gives some problems with the default software from Huawei ( they still try to render some things in 400 dpi ). But nothing beats having Chrome in 280dpi, with tabs and full desktop rendering and still perfectly readable
O yea, and one thing i miss from my ZU, is that the X2 by default does not turn off its Wifi when you leave the house ( the ZU has a option for that ). You can do it ( there are 3th party programs ) that do it, but you need to root it ( takes a while to get the unlock code from Huawei ).
Khiuli said:
If I were going for that, I would just go with one of those cheap 6" phablets with 720p screens, haha. The M2 is pretty overkill for me ( really pretty but still). I can still fit my Ultra on my pockets nicely so the X2 should be good, as far as size goes.
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The M2 is overkill. That is more a tablet. Smaller battery, bigger screen, bigger size, no phone capability. Price almost the same.
Khiuli said:
Yea, it's what I thought but when you get almost no reviews and comments about a phone, the specs are the only thing I can use for a guide on this. Huawei is a known brand, just not like Sony. The Z ultra had tons of reviews and feedback when it came out, but I could only find 1 review and many unboxings/ hands on. Thanks for the help!
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You can simply look up the X1 for basic reviews. The X2 is just a upgraded X1 with a better SOC ( CPU/GPU/Memory/Flash ). The basic design & internally is almost identical. There are also a few Russian etc reviews ( google translate ) that go fairly in dept. The biggest complaint in every review ... size. Just like with the ZU. Its a "acquired" taste.
Anyway, its your money but the LE Max, i removed that from the list months ago, because of the almost identical battery size like the ZU. For phone's of this size, its not acceptable that they have batteries inside of only 3000/3400mAh.
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Water proof is one of those oversold features. Do you use your smartphone in the shower? Do you use your smartphone while swimming ( by the way, Sony does not advice trying out the water proof in anything but clean water because chloor or salt = bad )? Its more of a annoy always opening up that usb cover. In all my life i never lost a phone because of water damage. If it rains, you do not use the phone. Simple as that. Or you use it under a umbrella. A bit of rain on the screen of the X2 or any non-water proof phone, will not destroy it. Its all pressed together. I found the water proof more of a excuse so they do not need to install a removable battery. And having it replaced by the manufacture ... awwwwww... Same reason why i sold my ZU: It will cost more to replace the battery by Sony ( and you STILL lose your water proof protection because even Sony can not guarantee that when they re-glue it, it will be water proof! ).
The X2 feel nice in the hand. I was planning on buying a case but i like the heavy metal feel instead of that glass feel that ZU had. It feels more robust. You do not feel like it will break and you need a protector. Disadvantage is that the metal is also slippery. Frankly, i like to get some plastic protector for the back of the X2, that is "grippy". The funny part being is, the X2 feels more premium with the metal, then the ZU.
I now just use the default protection plastic that was on it ( put it back ) and it gives more grip. But its not clean ( full of explanation text *lol* )
For the rest ... if you come from the ZU, its a bit of adjustment. The X2 is only 1cm thicker on the side, but it gives a massive visual difference. The X2 looks BIG, compared to the ZU. Yet, its only 1 cm difference. Its that optical illusion effect from long & slender.
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Worst part is probably the default launcher and DPI. Its set to 400 default and that is crazy. 280 is perfect for this device but it gives some problems with the default software from Huawei ( they still try to render some things in 400 dpi ). But nothing beats having Chrome in 280dpi, with tabs and full desktop rendering and still perfectly readable
O yea, and one thing i miss from my ZU, is that the X2 by default does not turn off its Wifi when you leave the house ( the ZU has a option for that ). You can do it ( there are 3th party programs ) that do it, but you need to root it ( takes a while to get the unlock code from Huawei ).
The M2 is overkill. That is more a tablet. Smaller battery, bigger screen, bigger size, no phone capability. Price almost the same.
You can simply look up the X1 for basic reviews. The X2 is just a upgraded X1 with a better SOC ( CPU/GPU/Memory/Flash ). The basic design & internally is almost identical. There are also a few Russian etc reviews ( google translate ) that go fairly in dept. The biggest complaint in every review ... size. Just like with the ZU. Its a "acquired" taste.
Anyway, its your money but the LE Max, i removed that from the list months ago, because of the almost identical battery size like the ZU. For phone's of this size, its not acceptable that they have batteries inside of only 3000/3400mAh.
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The man is absolutely correct. It WAS cool to be able to answer my Z Ultra in the shower when someone called but opening up the rubber to charge it was a PITA. The Z Ultra was my least favorite phone I've ever owned. Nothing was good about it except for the screen size and waterproofing. (It was super thin but had a puny battery which negated the fact that it was so thin) I'm am so glad when it completely crapped out three weeks after I got it that I was able to return it to the seller for a refund and buy the X2.
Thanks for all the in-depth info, folks... I especially appreciated the information about how batteries are replaced. I have never bought a phone without a replaceable battery. I keep my phones for a long time (compared to as long as you probably do). I still have my Note 2 (in pristine condition - actually even with the first iSmooth screen protector I ever installed still in pristine condition). The only problem I ever had with my Note 2 is that just recently I had to buy a new battery because the old one had degraded to about 3/4 power... I have been researching both the X2 and the P8MAX and dying to buy either but, not being the pros that you are, I have been extremely hesitant to take the plunge because I was worried about repairs once the battery started degrading. So where would you bring the X2 for repairs here in the USA? Seriously, I don't have half the knowledge or experience that you have. I have been avidly reading every forum and website I can find regarding the X2 and the P8MAX to learn a little bit here and there. Thanks so much for your time to try to teach people like me!
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OnePlus One better than OnePlus 2...and why?

Hi there. I'm choosing between the OnePlus One and the OnePlus 2 as my next phone due to their OS being better than vanilla Android. But what is this i'm hearing that the older model is better then the current flagship? SO i would like to ask:
1. Which one has a better camera?
2. Which one has a slightly louder speakers?
3. Is it true the OPOne has better battery life/more optimised software than the OP2 despite having a smaller battery capacity?
I'm also worried that the OnePlus One might be left behind with newer/constant updates compared to the OnePlus 2.
Please help. Many thanks.
1) the op2 has a slightly better camera and (afaik) optical image stabilisation. Which helps in video recording and low light performance.
2) I can't say anything for the op2 speaker but the opo speakers are some of the loudest I heard in a phone.
3) battery life is definitely better on the opo. Many people are getting over 5 hrs of sot whereas the op2 seems to get around 4hrs.
And for updates I wouldn't be concerned for the opo. The devs here on xda are doing a great job at updating the opo. We got a quite stabile cm13 within weeks of marshmallow release and it has been daily driver material for many people since the begging with only very minor bugs.
I would say the opo is in almost no way inferior to the op2. Apart from not having a fingerprint sensor and the optical image stabilisation for the camera.
It comes down to your needs and your budget.
I bought my 64gb opo quite some time after the release of the op2 and I can safely say this is the best phone I have owned for my needs. On wifi it is not rarely seen to get 6 to 8 hours of sot. Something the op2 owners can only dream about.
Also check this thread for some more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3287486
1. Which one has a better camera?
cant answer as ive never touched a OP2
2. Which one has a slightly louder speakers?
My OPO has a mod called Viper4Android and its definatley louder than any phone I have ever heard including the iPhone 6s. Please bear in mind that when playing music each file has a waveform and while it may be the same song when comparing one wave can always be higher than the other which causes differences in volume.
3. Is it true the OPOne has better battery life/more optimised software than the OP2 despite having a smaller battery capacity?
in terms of optimisation it is definitely better (only ever used a custom rom) but I think that is entirely optimisation and eventually the oneplus two will catch up and be close. But one thing to remember here is that the OP2 uses the snapdragon 810 and the OP1 uses the 810 and if you google things like the power efficiency and management many people say the 801 is better.
This is supported by the fact that the 810 runs hotter. now it depends on a lot of factors but generally the less power a chip uses and the smaller it is means the less heat it outputs.. so assuming they use the same size die and rough layout it suggests the 801 uses less battery to complete the same tasks
I'm also worried that the OnePlus One might be left behind with newer/constant updates compared to the OnePlus 2.
This all depends on how many people get it. I honestly think most of the people who want a phone like the oneplus 2 already have a op1 and will only update if they have moneys to spare
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3) battery life is definitely better on the opo. Many people are getting over 5 hrs of sot whereas the op2 seems to get around 4hrs.
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Good to know, thanks. XD
I've owned both (sold the 2 and back on the one). The 2's camera is probably better, but the one is no slouch. Sometimes the 2's pictures get almost a water color painting effect when you zoom in 100%. Check out the xda page and look at some of the photos. The opo speakers are MUCH louder than the 2. The 2 also only has 1 speaker on the bottom and was easy for me to cover while holding the phone 1 handed, this completely muting the sound with my pinky finger only.
For me the 2 didn't have horrible battery life but the opo is better (for me)....
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Haven't had the oneplus 2 but my only gripe after over a year with the oneplus 1 is the rubbish vibrate... It's loud when out on a table/desk but almost unnoticeable when in your pocket.
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Haven't had the oneplus 2 but my only gripe after over a year with the oneplus 1 is the rubbish vibrate... It's loud when out on a table/desk but almost unnoticeable when in your pocket.
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Haha, thats true. It makes more noise than it actually vibrates. But it's just something minor in my opinion.
The Oneplus One still is a great phone with amazing battery life! And yeah, when looking at the OP2's price I'd say the OPO is just more worth the money!
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Better battery and NFC, I'd love a fingerprint reader on the OPO though...

Moving to Honor 8 from lg G4 (is it worth? and why?)

Hi all, whould be wise to move from a g4 to an honor8? Who wins in terms of:
-Camera (autofocus quality and speed and noise on low light pics),
-Browsing Speed,
-Updates over time,
-Screen quality (i changed 3 g4 and all had had screen issues like lines ect),
-Software Features (es gestures, shortcuts etc etc),
-Active battery runtime and charge speed,
-Heat (i've read honor 8 get hot in camera mode, dunno if it's solved with nowdays updates),
-Build quality and unit's faulty rate (not properly happy with the g4, moving over the screen issue, the back cover doesn't match well on the right bottom edge and remains half mm open)
It's going in the hands of a non-power user~
Thank you all in advange
Hey, i did exactly that because my G4 died, so i got a replacement one sold it and got an Honor 8.
Basically it was worth it, the device is faster, has a MUCH higher build quality. But ill just answer your questions (Just my thoughts however feel free to make your own judgement)
Camera (autofocus quality and speed and noise on low light pics) - Honor 8!
Browsing Speed - The Kirin feels faster - Honor 8 (but thats a close one)
Updates over time - Unclear, G4 still on MM, H8 still on MM
Screen quality (i changed 3 g4 and all had had screen issues like lines ect) - You said it, Honor 8 wins bigly.
-Software Features (es gestures, shortcuts etc etc) - Honor 8
-Active battery runtime and charge speed - Honor 8 (But you need to use the Huawei USB Type C Charger else it wont Fast-Charge!!)
-Heat (i've read honor 8 get hot in camera mode, dunno if it's solved with nowdays updates) - Nothing noticed, G4 went hot too
-Build quality and unit's faulty rate (not properly happy with the g4, moving over the screen issue, the back cover doesn't match well on the right bottom edge and remains half mm open)
Hope it helps. By the way there is almost no feature you'll be missing the honor8 even has the IR-blaster like the G4 did
thank you dude, just as i tought... my only doubt was about cam quality but i guess i wont be disappointed with the honor
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-Active battery runtime and charge speed - Honor 8 (But you need to use the Huawei USB Type C Charger else it wont Fast-Charge!!)
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I came from Ham2, link in my signature and I feel like the battery life doesn't last as long as my previous device. But with that being said, the battery size was definitely bigger on my Ham2 than Honor 8. But I am a super heavy user and the Ham2's battery should be shot by now, but it seems like the Ham2 still last longer than the Honor 8. I haven't used the G4 before, but I was consider it before I bought the Honor 8. Specs wise Honor 8 wins hands down over both of those phones.
ktwo, how is the battery life on yours? Can you go a whole day without it? With that being said, the Quick charge is amazing. I am still getting use to how fast it charges. I would recommend this device and no need to answer your questions as ktwo did an amazing job at that.
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Hi all, whould be wise to move from a g4 to an honor8? Who wins in terms of:
-Camera (autofocus quality and speed and noise on low light pics),
-Browsing Speed,
-Updates over time,
-Screen quality (i changed 3 g4 and all had had screen issues like lines ect),
-Software Features (es gestures, shortcuts etc etc),
-Active battery runtime and charge speed,
-Heat (i've read honor 8 get hot in camera mode, dunno if it's solved with nowdays updates),
-Build quality and unit's faulty rate (not properly happy with the g4, moving over the screen issue, the back cover doesn't match well on the right bottom edge and remains half mm open)
It's going in the hands of a non-power user~
Thank you all in advange
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I have used the LG G3 and G4 for quite a while and am very happy with the hardware on both. Fantastic cameras! My only frustration was LG's lack of upgrades.. to counter this I recently installed crDroid on them both and they are once again running superbly, on Nougat
I received an Honor 8 just a few days ago and have set it up with Google Now Launcher to look very much like all of my Android devices. It looks very nice (the Saphire Blue one) is about the same size as my Nexus 5X, it is fast, my first photos are sharp, but I wouldn't drop my G4 for the Honor 8, perhaps because I have become so used to the G4
You do get a lot for the money though..
my G4 was sent back for warranty repair because of the motherboard issue. It was gone for 2 months. Bought a Honor 8 as replacement.
It's back now, but I am still with the Honor 8, basically not missing the G4...
I have a Honor 8 but am really impressed with its camera, low noise level... The Fast charging is awesome, speed is also good
Go to honor 8 with closed eyes ! ...
ok ok ok it's is decided
I know it's already been decided, but I also moved from the G4 to the H8.
Camera: G4 (I wish it weren't so! I've tried so many camera apps, and almost 50% of the time, the images are blurry on my H8. How can I check if EIS is working / on?)
Browsing speed: H8 likely due to the 8 real cores. I would have terrible stuttering in any kind of app.
Updates over time: same, though H8 seems to win this via partnership with XDA.
Screen quality: Both for different reasons. G4 has higher res which is noticeable, but really 1080p on a 5.2in on the H8 is a great sweet spot.
Software features: H8 seems to have more practical features. Stock / CM still wins though.
Battery: H8 hands down for both SoT and charge speed.
Heat: H8, aluminum really helps.
Build quality: H8.
ROMs: H8 due to the XDA partnership, G4 (H811) was still locked.
All in all, H8 is a really great buy. On Black Friday, it was totally nuts at ~$265 or something like that.
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ok ok ok it's is decided
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Good Luck !.
camera is really my only doubt about the h8...in every review i watch it's stated be over-average, both on high and low light. The only real issue it does have is the lack of an ois, and i dont know if it's really going to impact a lot on the pictures or on the videos quality. I rly wish i could try it before changing my issued g4.
*in europe where i live, it's priced 360€
Check this to see if it's worth losing OIS.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8195&idPhone2=6901&idPhone3=7815
on gsmarena comparison, regarding the photo samples, i notice a little blurrier, less noisy, less contrasted pics on the g4 especially on good light...h8 seems to perform better on low light and to catch more details....but the ISO are different and i'm no expert, so i cannot rly judge.
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Hi all, whould be wise to move from a g4 to an honor8? Who wins in terms of:
-Camera (autofocus quality and speed and noise on low light pics),
-Browsing Speed,
-Updates over time,
-Screen quality (i changed 3 g4 and all had had screen issues like lines ect),
-Software Features (es gestures, shortcuts etc etc),
-Active battery runtime and charge speed,
-Heat (i've read honor 8 get hot in camera mode, dunno if it's solved with nowdays updates),
-Build quality and unit's faulty rate (not properly happy with the g4, moving over the screen issue, the back cover doesn't match well on the right bottom edge and remains half mm open)
It's going in the hands of a non-power user~
Thank you all in advange
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Camera - I saw it can go either way, I've produced really great images with the Honor 8. But it does lack OIS and the G4 can take images in RAW so if you edit photos you can keep your G4 for that.
Browsing Speed - I would say even. Depends on your connectivity.
Software Updates - Right now, Honor 8. I'm already running a Nougat beta on my Honor 8, but then again the G4 is a year old phone.
Screen Quality - Honor 8 and G4 are both crispy.
Software Features - I would say Honor 8. With the Android Nougat beta, it came with a lot of the Stock nougat features like multiwindow.
Battery - I would say they're equal.
Heat - Honor 8 is better. It rarely heats up, even if it does it isn't as bad as the G4 heating up.
Build Quality - Honor 8. Materials are more high quality.
After breaking my G3 screen, I decided to look for a large (5.5 screen) and rootable phone. Since I was pretty happy with G3, I decided to give G4 a try and settled for used, unlocked t-mobile variant (H811). I must say that G4 is unimpressive (bulky and not very responsive) and the ROM support is segmented and not as good as G3.
Luckily, I ended up getting a series of bad refurbished phones (bad charging port, bad GPS, wrong variants). I think unless LG do something useful rather than useless gimmickry (basically just played with back covers for G4 and G5) the Gx line is dead.
With that in mind, I went for the smaller (5.2) and not-yet-root-able honor 8 because of the BF $240 deal. The biggest problem I had was to migrate system and apps settings due to the lack of titanium backup (actually why this is supported by Android itself). This turn out to be not too bad. I read that the EMUI is not android like but that difference is small comparing that of android versions or vendors differences. If only I could find a simple way to invoke the menu (not navigation pane) key for some really old apps, I would be very happy.
One more thing that irritated me on G3/G4 is that the knock code unlock is often hit-and-miss for me unless I turn off the screen first, on certain area of the screen, and do it slowly. All that frustration is gone now with honor 8's fingerprint sensor and it also keep the screen alive when i leave the finger there - and the unlock works even when the finger is upside down or sideways.
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I went for the smaller (5.2) and not-yet-root-able honor 8 because of the BF $240 deal.
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What do you mean? it's super easy to root.
I'm selling my LG V10 to my colleague and likely to get the Honor 8 next because I miss the smaller form factor and lighter feel. V10 is a great phone, even for 2016, but it's very bulky with a case. My only concern with Huawei is the software, I had a horrible experience with the Honor 5X software wise, even though I know my way around Android very well. So I'm looking to see if CM14.1 will be available for the 8, but I'm afraid it won't have the same camera quality, which is usually the case due to proprietary drivers. (Had similar experience with many other phones.)
The other option is to upgrade to the OnePlus 3T, but I really want to go small this time. I don't need fast phones or latest specs anymore, just a very good camera. Pixel is out of the question because I can't justify spending more than about $400 for phones anymore (especially without microSD) since there are so many good values out there. I might consider a Pixel if they have a very good deal with Google Fi.
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Pixel is out of the question because I can't justify spending more than about $400 for phones anymore .
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I agree. I won't be shelling out big money for the latest and greatest anymore with these companies pumping out high quality affordable devices. Btw, I had the pixel, I'd take the Honor 8 over it any day.
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I'm selling my LG V10 to my colleague and likely to get the Honor 8 next because I miss the smaller form factor and lighter feel. V10 is a great phone, even for 2016, but it's very bulky with a case. My only concern with Huawei is the software, I had a horrible experience with the Honor 5X software wise, even though I know my way around Android very well. So I'm looking to see if CM14.1 will be available for the 8, but I'm afraid it won't have the same camera quality, which is usually the case due to proprietary drivers. (Had similar experience with many other phones.)
The other option is to upgrade to the OnePlus 3T, but I really want to go small this time. I don't need fast phones or latest specs anymore, just a very good camera. Pixel is out of the question because I can't justify spending more than about $400 for phones anymore (especially without microSD) since there are so many good values out there. I might consider a Pixel if they have a very good deal with Google Fi.
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There is cm for honor 8 but it's dodgy and stuff needs to be fixed

Galaxy S10 plus vs Oneplus 7 Pro

Been a Samsung user since the the original note 3. I owned only OnePlus phone, aka OnePlus 1. It was fast back then and still is useable for me with custom rom. Now, current I own a note 5, I have it for almost 4 years now. Its getting slow even with a custom rom. There is not much support for the note 5 either, specially t mobile note 5. So my question is should I go with the Galaxy S10 plus or the OnePlus 7 Pro? S10 plus are listed for 750$ (8gb,128gb,unlocked). The OnePlus 7 Pro is also 750 unlocked with the best possible spec from OnePlus (256gb,12gb, unlocked). Money is not an issue for me to be honest, but I don't want to overpaid (weird). Which is better and your reason for choosing one over the other. Or .... Should I wait for the note 10? I know it's gonna be a beast :laugh:
honestly, I guess it comes down to personal preference.
i.e. Samsung is more feature packed but more locked down. OP is more dev friendly, if you'd like to play with modding and custom roms
Owning an s9+ for a couple of years, I enjoy some of the Samsung features, but could live without:
- water proofing - dunked the phone in water 3 times only: can't use the screen properly and that's a shame, also the speakers get muzzled and you get that annoying device is wet notification - better skip (the photos aren't that great either unless you're in a clear-water swimming pool)
- wireless charging - definitely cool feature, it's useful for me because I can charge the Iphone 8 with the same charger, but I use it mainly at night when placing the phone on the stand. It's too slow still. I definitely missed my OP5T charging speed when switching to Samsung, I literary changed charging habits with DASH
- micro-sd slot - never used it. I find popping out the tray to be an overkill. With cloud I don't see the point transferring videos (those are the storage eaters) over cable anymore. Or files for that mater. I use solid explorer and do my transfers via FTP server on my home wi-fi
- headphone jack - I guess I've used it only once. I find wired stuff cumbersome honestly and sacrificed some quality for comfort, even for home speakers. I listen to music everyday and it's nice to have two devices connect to the same headphones over BT
There's more to be discussed here, but you should really take a close look to your lifestyle, how your day goes by and match each device to that. You will certainly get your answer
OP7 PRO support HDMI or not like Samsung DEX ? If support i will buy one for sure couse will be best phone for me
I can not stand Samsung Bloatware, want Gmail does not matter here is Samsung Mail which you can not delete, want Chrome here is our Samsung browser, want Google Pay..... "Samsung Pay" .... etc.....
You will get Android 10, 2020 if you are lucky
And Samsung is still more expensive
Again it's personal preference.. I owned two oneplus devices before jumping to s10 plus..
Why samsung -
Features filled.
Water and dust proof
Not sure about custom roms support as I saw s9 and s8 has a tons of roms.. U have two options for roms one is oem rom another is aosp.. So when ur bored u can switch.
Headphone jack - Bluetooth doesn't support u always, the real master is headphone jack.
Better customer service world wide support.
Why oneplus
Strong dev support.. Still own 3T with rom support even after 3 years. Also the oneplus pushes updates till date.
Pricing - U get premium device for good deal..
Service center needs to be increased.
I'm really liking the new OnePlus 7 Pro, but I heard from the reviewers that with 90hz on, ur battery life won't last through a day. That refresh is one of the reasons I ant to buy the device. Been using 144hz monitor, so using phone with 60hz is not the best experience. I hope there will be more after market battery case, the current one for Oneplus device looks horrible. Custom is definitely a plus. To be honest the only reason for me to get s 10 or note 10 is good custom rom support, but right now, OnePlus 7 Pro looks so good to pass. With the cameras, I have to say still no where close to the pixel, but hope there will be a gcam version for it.
I have been using my op7p for a week now. Comparing to my gf s10 plus, I have to say the screen on the s10 plus is way over the 7pro, except the 90hz. Indoor usage, the brightness level for both phone is about the same; however, when it comes to using the phone under direct sunlight, the 7p falls behind. That the only thing I hope OnePlus will improve and the camera....., even my note 5 at max brightness is still usable under sun light. Everything else is great on the 7p. So worth it.
I still have both.
The ceramic S10 feels nicer in the hand and is noticeably easier to one-hand.
Always on display and wireless charging are big plusses
Both screens are great but if you pushed me I'd give the advantage to the Samsung.
I way prefer oxygen os over one UI, and there is a degree of comfort knowing you get the updates quicker, OP are very active in this regard
The OP7 pro is faster across the board at pretty much everything.
I find I get better and more reliable 4g and wifi performance on the OP. Starting to think my S10+ (exynos) may have something wrong with the radios.
YMMV
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I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
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I got rid of the OnePlus 7 Pro after 7 days of usage:
1. 90hz RR just disappears at most usages(there is a workaround using adb to enable 90 Hz RR but keeping at a fixed 90 Hz further dents on battery life).
2. The curves are rather deep (reminded me the curves of Galaxy s6 edge, s7 edge, s8+ that I didn't like)- my earlier Note 9 and current s10+'s less curvy & squarish design feel better to avoid accidental touches(& typing letters p, q, etc.) and reflection under artificial lighting conditions.
-3. Under sunlight, the s10+'s screen is way more legible. It's occasional to have such usage, but when it does , it does matter.
4. Like the notchless display, but at the cost of a pop-up camera that accumulates dust and debris in the compartment- that doesn't retract entirely by the time it touches ground dropping from a weist height/table is not something I appreciate.
5. It's heavy and big ,becomes uncomforfortable for my liking to talk for longer period of time. I was not happy with the weight of 512 gigs S10+ especially when talking for an hour or so daily, hence swapped to a 128 gigs version(175gms) that feels just right. At 206 gms+the weight of a case, I found the 7 Pro way more uncomfortable to use in 1 week of my of usage.
6. No IP rating counts. No company offers warranty for liquid damaged units even with IP rating but they do so bcoz they do not know how long the user kept in water- for 30 mins, 30 hours or for days, for 1 meter deep, 2 meters or was in salt water... But with an official IP rating it's a peace of mind. You can dunk a certified IP67/68 rated smartphone in a swimming pool without thinking twice but you can't with the 7 Pro with a fear of damaging it. For light rain or splash- 7 Pro is fine, so does most of the non-IP certified smartphones now a days with zero advertising of "bucket-test" by the manufacturer itself.I do not like a smartphone that often accumulates dust. To users like me, ingress protection matters.
7. Why have a glass back on when no wireless charging ? Probably even OnePlus does not know.
8. OOS 9.5.7 improved the camera but it still has focusing issues in low light and macro, and wide angle cam can't be used for video yet- These are nitpicky and might get resolved with future updates.
(OOS 9.5.8 is out but I couldn't get the chance to check it).
Overall the 7 Pro failed to impress me to be my daily driver even after having some strong "+ve" sides.
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Don't really care about the weight ? I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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Pro Weight lifter. Talk sometimes.
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Don't really care about the weight I need more battery, so I ordered a battery case to run 90hz full time. You can tweak it. The rest really depends on your need and personal references.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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One can easily find an international Samsung Galaxy S10+ within 50-60 dollars price difference. When you compare side-by-side (features, specifications, and aesthetics), S10+ beats OP7 Pro hands down. The biggest strength of OP branding was to provide customers speed at a reasonable price. With negligible price difference why would you even buy OP7 Pro?
Oh, did I mention the almost useless OP customer service? I could not get my OP6T repaired through OP d/t horrible customer service. I am a firm believer you get what you pay for.
If the OP7 Pro price was capped under $600, then the value proposition would have given OP7 an advantage. Again, just my personal opinion, your mileage may vary.
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Where I live the s10 plus is about the same price as the 12gb model op7p. I used student discount to buy the op7p so it is cheaper. Both are new and unclocked, but you get more ram storage higher refresh rate with the 7. The software is also better on the 7. Everytime I use a Samsung device, I have to flash custom rom to get the most out of it. Sometime, developer abandoned the project and the rom never get updated. The s10 plus beats the 7 outdoor visibility which I really wish the op7p would get to 1000 nits and the camera (opinion), depends on what you prefer. Samsung used to be great, beefy spec, newest technology, but they rather selling components to other companies to make more money than use it for their own products. If the note 10 comes with 90hz or higher, I would drop my money for it, but we all know too well that it won't. The question I asked before buying is why would I get 60hz? When the 90hz is way better. It's night and day difference.
I traded my 512gb S10 plus for the 12/256GB oneplus 7 pro and I think both phones are great. I think the only thing the s10 did better was to quickly adjust to the surrounding light. I often find myself adjusting the brightness level of my OP7P as it is often too dim and too slow to ramp up the nits. Other than that I'm quite happy with it. Until the Note 10 pro that is?
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First world problems lol. Most of your cons are personal preference and also based on aesthetics. Only thing i can agree with slightly is the wireless charging. It wouldn't make sense to get wireless charging that gets you full battery in 2.5 or 3 hours over warp charge in an hour or less(?). Camera is OK, i'll take the 7 pro over the overly done beauty shot in selfie mode and over saturation on the s10. There also has been tests to see if the 7 Pro is water resistant, plenty of videos on youtube and insurance is optional on the phone which do cover drops, spills and cracks. Heaviness of the phone... i like it, better than the lightweight of the s10. Maybe the next one will impress ya.
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Fast charging and wireless charging have nothing to do with one another, lol. The convenience if wireless charging is not having to plus something in. So much nicer to just set something down and let it charge. It's not meant to be a fast wireless charger. If u wanted to charge faster, I'd plug it in, lol. Like the Huawei. It's got wireless charging and fast wired. Two separate solutions for two separate problems. One doesn't trump the other. The Galaxy phones have a quick wired charging so it's not super slow if you needed some juice. But the OnePlus has NO (zilch, zero, nada) option for wireless charging.
I immediately eliminate any phone with a notch from my list. I thought thanks to new hole in display Samsung phones I would keep my note 9 until they release phones without which may not be for another 2 years. No thanks to 7 pro with its 6.7 inch no notch display I got the upgrade itch. Why anybody would buy a notched phone is beyond me. What a stupid idea. Imagine your TV having a notch . 7 pro out selling s10 in China and people have spoken.
Despite the speed of the processor and the fluidity of the 90 hz display, the 6GB OnePlus 7 Pro retains the same disastrous problem from it's predecessor - pathetic RAM management. The stock phone app hangs! Other apps hang too, but the hung phone app on a Rs.49,000 phone is unacceptable under any yardstick or scale.
Summary: A high end phone with a hung phone app is what the latest 6GB model of OnePlus 7 Pro is. None of the PVR cinema ads or online hype makes no mention of the reality that it cannot meet the bare minimum requirement of a smartphone - a working stock phone application. That's all this review is all about. If you don't have time, you can leave it here.
If you want the numbers continue reading. 85% of RAM is always used up, that is without opening a single RAM heavy app. Spoke to Amazon tech support and OnePlus support. All they could do is show me where to find the list of apps consuming the memory (which show average memory use over a period of time, not live data). I had to uninstall many essential apps (none of them are games or have heavy graphics) significantly reducing the value of my OnePlus device. Wonder why they don't show the live data? the RAM management that's shockingly bad. Installed 2 professional diagnostic tools to check (one of them advised by Amazon tech support) and the RAM used under below average load conditions was 85% (after uninstalling RAM heavy apps.) This probably has to do with overclocked processing. Flightradar24 is an app I cannot do without, as a frequent flyer. It's RAM heavy according to OnePlus. I now run it on a cheap backup from Xioami phone (which by the way costs 1/10 that of the OnePlus 7 Pro). Same with Uber, bank apps and financial market tracker apps, which did not have any problems running on my previous device - Samsung S10 plus. I gave it away. At least it was far lighter and reliable than OnePlus. Oh OnePlus has a fancy 90Hz display and fast fingerprint reader, the effects of which wear off in the 1st week of use. When reality dawns, half a lakh of cash is gone. The display or fingerprint reader cannot compensate for a hung phone app.
The conclusion is - the phone like a caged lion, struggles within the bars of it's limited RAM. It gives off the sensation of unreliability. The slippery smooth glass combined with the tablet-heavy phone reduces reliability further. It requires a minimum of 8GB, if not more in the long run.
The worse part is Oneplus cannot do anything. And Amazon cannot replace is as the stock apps getting stuck on account of insufficient RAM is a technical issue and not one that warrants a replacement of device. Again, OnePlus is not Samsung. BEWARE.
Batterylife? Forget 90 hz Even when kept at 60 hz fulltime it's lower than the exynos model of samsung gs10 plus. This is a fact, I KNOW because just before this Oneplus I used gs10 plus for three months in a raw.
Lemme tell about outdoor visibility :-- It plain SUCKS. Due to my job commitment I stay outdoors many a times. And I end up finding shades to see what's in the screen LMAO. It's 2019 for God's sake Oneplus. Poor minimal nits was intentional to keep batterylife in control is what oneplus did with the best of my thinking. No option to choose 90 hz in settings as it would eat up battery like an elephant drinking water. Oneplus already clarified that. More bigger battery means more height,width,length and weight than that it already is, so didn't. Very nice move.
The oneplus has a specific audience =>> college/highschool going students who love consuming media non- stop and happy playing PUBG and other games, keep in watching movies, browse social media, comment, recharge and repeat. Definitely does not look like made this keeping corporates in mind. I'm repenting for not doing enough research before buying this. Learnt a lesson and selling this in OLX. Forgive me who have read this far but did not like it at all for me not at all knowing how fast, no notch , yada yada great of a phone this oneplus is.
I had to decide between the s10+ and 7 pro as the 10+ was just 25$ more. I chose 7 pro because it was impossible for me to cope with the pill, I find it worse than a notch just because it has screen between it and the frame making it feel like a part of the image(an ugly part especially because the sky sits there if you watch stuff on it...)
Got a chance to own both devices (actually S10+, P30 Pro and OP7 Pro)
Oneplus 7 Pro (overall)
1. 90hz + QHD + Amoled display is the icing on the cake here.
2. The warp charging will definitely makes you think of choosing OP over S10 all day.
3. Superb gaming experience.
4. Battery life still good if not the best among flagship phones available today, I'm seriously getting 7hrs SOT with 90hz and QHD settings and that's more than enough for me given the fact that I can warp charge my 7 pro.
5. Completely full display (notchless/ no pinhole design).
S10 plus
1. Display brightness
2. Lightweight and easy to hold with one (1) hand.
3. Ip68 rating (its good to have this on the next oneplus)
4. 3.5mm jack
5. OneUI customization
6. Wireless charging is good to have but it's no use for me.
If I were to choose:
1. P30 Pro on top (very slight edge over the Oneplus 7 Pro)
2. Oneplus 7 pro
3. S10 plus

Why did you choose 8 over the 8 pro?

I'm just curious on why people choose the 8 over the 8 pro, I have ordered the 8 and my reasoning was the size, I currently have the OnePlus 6 which already feels big to me and anything bigger would be impossible for me to use with one hand.
I chose it because of the price difference (£200 for slighly faster memory and better cameras) and the fact that, from a OnePlus 5, the enhancements would be so good, I wouldn't need the small extras that the OP8Pro would give me. So far, I haven't been disappointed. I didn't think about the size.
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The reason on my side was the height and especially the weight. I already had in the past an oneplus 7 pro and I sold it because it was too heavy (206gr).
Since then I own a galaxy note 10 and the size and weight is totally in line with me, hence my choice for the standard oneplus 8.
I'm debating between the 8 and the pro and I was wondering if the screen issues being reported on the pro are also found on the regular 8. Is anyone with an 8 experiencing screen issues?
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I'm debating between the 8 and the pro and I was wondering if the screen issues being reported on the pro are also found on the regular 8. Is anyone with an 8 experiencing screen issues?
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What screen issues? I can's say I've noticed anything odd.
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alan sh said:
What screen issues? I can's say I've noticed anything odd.
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The ones being discussed on the pro side of the house:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/how-to/terrible-screen-tint-uniformity-t4084539
For me it was the size, especially the width. 72mm + case is comfortable to hold and use with one hand but 75 with a case i can't handle.
If you don't care about the width i recommend the 7t. I think is the better option for the price.
I have no issues with my screen btw.
no issue on my oneplus 8 screen too
Cost
No issues on my screen when I put the display brightness right down.
Thanks all, I appreciate the feedback!
Am in the same boat. Really concerned about the size of the pro so considering the 8. However the screen technology on the pro is better so really torn!
Just got my 8 today was torn as well but prefer the smaller form factor and a extra £200 just for wireless charging that's not important for me don't use anyway and IP rating is not a issue and with all the issues with displays in the pro glad I did the difference from 90hz to 120hz is minimal yet from 60hz to 90hz is a lot more noticeable
Camera again ok might be bit better but only take odd snap so not issue even £100 for extra 4gb ram isn't essential really and that green is yuck if was nice amber gold or red (sure to be some point in future ) might have forked up another £100 so far no issues with display so all good and good choice for me personally [emoji16]
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The main thing for me is price with the same performance. I don't use wireless charging. And No issues with the display too.
For me it's :
Price difference
Size
No screen factory installed protector for the pro amazon UK.
Having had both phones in my hands, the regular is definitely more comfortable and haven't seen any performance drops between the 2. Definitely the 200 extra for the pro isn't worth it.
Because it's all I could get on a Jump upgrade from T-Mobile
Was my only option In a sense as my carrier (red) only sells the 8. Is nice to see peeps choosing da reg OP8 over the Pro as I almost just went with a LG instead. For the fact there's nothing extra I see that justifies that 100$ hike n price outside of mm mave capable. My understanding was vzw's version was to be the 12gb/256 but it is not
I got the 8 Pro for myself, but I ordered the 8 for my wife for the Interstellar Glow.
Verizon 5G UW
Kadol said:
For me it was the size, especially the width. 72mm + case is comfortable to hold and use with one hand but 75 with a case i can't handle.
If you don't care about the width i recommend the 7t. I think is the better option for the price.
I have no issues with my screen btw.
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Which camera did u use to take the pic?

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