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[Q] Market... Website or Classic?

Which method of downloading and searching for apps do you guys use most now since theres finally a first party website for apps. Do you still use the market place app OR the website?

I've found the website to be unreliable. It never shows my installed apps correctly. It won't show even half of what is installed but it will show apps that I uninstalled three months ago. I've tried downloading six different apps from the site, none ever downloaded. Plus, I rarely use my laptop anymore since I can do most of what I need to do on my Evo just as easily.
So... the app.
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Not sure why it matters what we used but I am going to guess both for most people. On your computer lets use the web. On your phone lets use the app. Since I use both I can't vote.

Website (mostly)
Reason:
1. Easier searching and browsing
2. Much easy to understand what the app is doing
3. No big issue in terms of installing, it's real fast, once I click ok in browser, the phone start to download near immediately.

Website when i'm at the computer. So most of the time.
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Plainjane is right, the site is really unreliable, but only if you check your instqlled apps. I prefer the market on my phone, but it is easier to use the website's push install (especially when you want to install a lot of apps in a short time)
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The list of installed app on the website for me is broken beyond broken (shows every app I have ever installed instead of which ones are currently installed)
But I do use the website more. As much as I love my vision, I like the bigger screen size on my monitor

i use the web market of cause because it is so esay to use and totaly somoth

ya like others, i don't have any big issues with the web market. i like it & its UI. i mix it up from time to time tho

removed

Market on the phone. Mostly when I install the app I want to use it immediately. When going to the website it takes about 5 minutes between the time I push the install button and the installation actually happening on my phone.

Google increases the app size limit for Android Market to 4GB.

Google increases
the app size limit
for Android Market
to 4GB
06 MARCH, 2012
Developers for Android have had to work
around the crippling 50MB file size limit for a long time now. To take care of this
problem, many developer devised an idea where you first download a small
application from the Android Market and upon launching it will download the rest
of the files from the developer's server.
This came with its own set of problems.
The user would not be aware of the total size of the app before downloading it.You were also often unable to refund an
up, because by the time the additional data got downloaded, the 15 minute refund period for the app would be over.
To take care of this situation, Google has now finally increased the total application size limit to 4GB for the Android Market.
But it's a bit different than the way things work on, say, the App Store, for example.The total apk size for the Android Market is still 50MB but now the developer can have two additional expansion files that
can be 2GB each in size. The developer can store these expansion files on Google's servers instead of their own and they will get downloaded along with the apk file. Also, the user will be made aware of the final size of the app beforedownloading it.
One of the advantages of having this system is that when the time comes to update the app, the user won't have to download the entire thing again. Although the developers are free to use the expansion files whichever way they like,Google is advising them to use one of the expansion files to host all the importantdata and the other for updating
purposes. This way, when the app needs to be updated, the developer can only modify the second expansion file and the user will only have to download it instead of the entire 4GB application all over again. Think of it as being similar to the delta updates available on iOS.Of course, the user won't have to worry about or even know about these things
and the process or purchasing or
updating will remain identical. All of this expansion files business will happen
behind the scenes.
The advantage of using this method instead of the aforementioned method
currently being employed by the
developers is that the Android Market
allows downloads to run in the
background and will even let you pause
and resume the download. You can use
Wi-Fi or 3G to download these large apps
but if you use Wi-Fi and you move out of
coverage the download will automatically
be paused.
Hopefully, the developers will take to this new way of distributing large apps, which should make the lives of the users a bit easier.
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Cool
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good news particularly for Unity developers.

Sounds good, should make the game downloading experience better.

Yup.....TX

could this be for the Google play tablet that is rumoured ? Google increasing the limit to add more games in market before the launch for Google play tablet so that when it comes out Google can be assured that people will have games to play on it. It seems that Google did this for Google play tablet only.

It shall stop the pirated apps also
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Just read an article about Mika Mobile stopping Android development.
One of their complaints was that even through the app limit has been upped to 4GB, it still means 50MB apps but now Google will host the downloads. So it is an improvement but still not perfect.
Personally I'm quite happy with the limits since it should prevent bloatware.

Excessive "Android OS" data usage

So I have noticed since buying my HOX, "Android OS" consistently uses several hundred (anywhere from 100-500MB) megabytes of data every month. This is really annoying considering I only have 3GB a month. It uses more data than facebook or the browser! I am rooted on 1.73, and removed some ATT bloat through titanium backup, no other modifications. But if I remember correctly, it was doing this even before these modifications. Any idea what could be the culprit?
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specter491 said:
So I have noticed since buying my HOX, "Android OS" consistently uses several hundred (anywhere from 100-500MB) megabytes of data every month. This is really annoying considering I only have 3GB a month. It uses more data than facebook or the browser! I am rooted on 1.73, and removed some ATT bloat through titanium backup, no other modifications. But if I remember correctly, it was doing this even before these modifications. Any idea what could be the culprit?
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If you've setup Android to transfer all data to the cloud, you may just be transferring a massive amount of contacts or Wi-Fi passwords. If all of your contacts have pictures on them, this could be part of the problem.
However, 500 MB is a bit excessive. Time to do some troubleshooting!

I do have my contacts set to sync, along with gmail, calendar, the weather(every 3 hours), etc. My pictures come from facebook, so shouldnt that data come up under the facebook app? And since my billing cycle started on the 27th, I have used a total of 298MB, and 153MB of that is Android OS. And I have set the Play store to update over wifi only

I was having this issue as well. I went to Setting > Privacy > Backup Settings, and checked it off. I think it was backing up everything on my phone including podcasts in downloaded in the pocket cast app.
Since then the Android OS data usage has not increased.
I have auto sync turned off. I also think the respective programs that sync show up separately.
Hope this helps.

Did some more searching today, someone else also mentioned that turning off "back up my settings" severely decreased data usage by android os. Thanks for the tip gert260. I'll report back to see if that fixes it. Currently at 153MB
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That could be some APP showing as Android OS instead of the actual APP.... that happened to me with JANGO (Radio APP) I noticed that my Android OS was using a lot of DATA but Jango was using a few KB... I did a test and I confirmed that it was this app... WEIRD! because on my tablet it shows the correct amount of data. If you use a streaming APP you can do a quick test

The last option says it all. It says app data and settings I would assume that it should go down if some apps aren't being used and being updated. My thought is that the os is updating these settings and data even though their not being used. I personally haven't had the phone more than a month so I cannot confirm this. I will update when I can.
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justmart said:
That could be some APP showing as Android OS instead of the actual APP.... that happened to me with JANGO (Radio APP) I noticed that my Android OS was using a lot of DATA but Jango was using a few KB... I did a test and I confirmed that it was this app... WEIRD! because on my tablet it shows the correct amount of data. If you use a streaming APP you can do a quick test
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Pandora does this for me
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[Q] My Moto 4G is caching everything. Is it a normal behavior?

I bought a Moto 4G few days ago and I feel like it has a strange behaviour.
My problem is that the phone is not handling multitasking as I would expect it to.
Some examples:
- I use Chrome as web browser. Each time I switch between tabs, the tabs are refreshed.
So if I am writing something in a form and need to check something in a other tab, then when I'll come back to the form the text I typed is lost with the refresh.
- I have the same problem with forms inside apps. I wanted to sell something using a classified ads app. And I experienced the same. I switched on chrome to check the spec.
When I switched back to my ad, the app completely restarted!
- I don't play often but I tried to see what the phone is capable of. I tried with Plants VS Zombies. And it is the same. If I switched back and forth the game will restart.
To sum up, I feel like the multitasking on my Moto G is only remembering the list of apps in use and restart them when needed!
I read that this may be due to a lack of RAM (the Moto G has 1Go of RAM). But I never experienced that with an old Galaxy S with Cyanogen ICS (512Mo RAM), nor with a more recent Nexus 4 with KitKat or older releases (2Go of RAM).
So I just made few tests:
- The classified ads app + chrome with with *one* tab + the task manager => no problem when switching (and the phone has ~300Mo of free RAM)
- The classified ads app + chrome with with *two* tabs + the task manager => apps are cached and refreshed if needed (and the phone has ~300Mo of free RAM)
- A game + the classified ads app + chrome with with *two* tabs + the task manager => apps are cached and refreshed if needed (and the phone **still** has ~300Mo of free RAM!!!)
I feel like the hardware of the Moto G is exactly what I need.
So do you think that this behaviour is due to a specific issue of my Moto 4G or it will be the same with any other one.
At the moment I think the problem comes from Android. But since the phone is praised everywhere on the internet I don't understand.
I feel like Google completely screwed up their last release of android (It is another problem but they probably destroyed the battery of my Nexus 4 with Kitkat).
I can't understand why a phone like this shouldn't be capable of real multitasking.
Depending on your answers I'll sent back my Moto 4G or not!
Thank you for your help.

Plouffr said:
I bought a Moto 4G few days ago and I feel like it has a strange behaviour.
My problem is that the phone is not handling multitasking as I would expect it to.
Some examples:
- I use Chrome as web browser. Each time I switch between tabs, the tabs are refreshed.
So if I am writing something in a form and need to check something in a other tab, then when I'll come back to the form the text I typed is lost with the refresh.
- I have the same problem with forms inside apps. I wanted to sell something using a classified ads app. And I experienced the same. I switched on chrome to check the spec.
When I switched back to my ad, the app completely restarted!
- I don't play often but I tried to see what the phone is capable of. I tried with Plants VS Zombies. And it is the same. If I switched back and forth the game will restart.
To sum up, I feel like the multitasking on my Moto G is only remembering the list of apps in use and restart them when needed!
I read that this may be due to a lack of RAM (the Moto G has 1Go of RAM). But I never experienced that with an old Galaxy S with Cyanogen ICS (512Mo RAM), nor with a more recent Nexus 4 with KitKat or older releases (2Go of RAM).
So I just made few tests:
- The classified ads app + chrome with with *one* tab + the task manager => no problem when switching (and the phone has ~300Mo of free RAM)
- The classified ads app + chrome with with *two* tabs + the task manager => apps are cached and refreshed if needed (and the phone has ~300Mo of free RAM)
- A game + the classified ads app + chrome with with *two* tabs + the task manager => apps are cached and refreshed if needed (and the phone **still** has ~300Mo of free RAM!!!)
I feel like the hardware of the Moto G is exactly what I need.
So do you think that this behaviour is due to a specific issue of my Moto 4G or it will be the same with any other one.
At the moment I think the problem comes from Android. But since the phone is praised everywhere on the internet I don't understand.
I feel like Google completely screwed up their last release of android (It is another problem but they probably destroyed the battery of my Nexus 4 with Kitkat).
I can't understand why a phone like this shouldn't be capable of real multitasking.
Depending on your answers I'll sent back my Moto 4G or not!
Thank you for your help.
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this problem might be in chrome browser as I face same issue in moto e.
Do you have a lot of apps already installed?
as they eat ram even if you don't open them.

I think the problem is both with apps and the android itself.
I noticed that some apps use a lot of RAM (Facebook 50Mo on idle WTF?!), and almost no matter what I do (I stopped a lot of RAM consuming apps) chrome is cached. That is why I think that android should be able to understand that when you are writting something in a form you can't cache the apps unless it is absolutely mandatory...
What I don't understand is the fact that I don't feel like I am a heavy user of smartphone. It just the classics:
Gmail + Outlook, Facebook + Messenger, Chrome, GMaps mainly.
And this kind of usage is absolutely seemless on Nexus 4, was also seemless on the Galaxy S (that was a second hand one!).
On the Moto G it is not seemless. That is why I am puzzled.
No other users face these kind of problems?

Z3 multitasking issue

I've noticed one annoying problem with youtube. If I am not watching a clip, just browsing through my subscription list and switch to another app and back to youtube, the list just defaults back to top to the first clip. Every time. It's as if there is no multitasking of youtube.
Sometimes after watching a clip and going back to the list the same thing happens.
Everything is stock, Z3 unlocked version.
Anyone has this problem?

I've found almost every app I used restarts barring games.

Jonathan-H said:
I've found almost every app I used restarts barring games.
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Its common android problem, not sony.

Is it a YouTube problem or more generalised?

YouTube and android in general.
Go to google play, my apps or anywhere, go to main menu of phone and go back go google play with multitasking you will see that you are back at top..
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It's more of android. I had like that on my nexus 7 2013.
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