Hangouts Lawsuit - Android General

Hi everybody.
Didn't see this posted so thought I'd share it with you all.
http://www.thedomains.com/2013/11/2...hanginout-damages-retraining-order-requested/
Seems like a money grab to me, another company trying to capitalise on Googles success.

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Open Android Alliance has moved

OAA has been having some problems this week.
Right now I realize that I have been deleted from my own site, which I spent hours working on and getting to look nice.
Basically, the day I went to register the domain, a user on XDA by the name of 'akapoor' hijacked the domain right before I got it (due to my webhost delaying registration). I messaged him about it and was quite mad, but we worked together to get a site up.
He provided the domain and hosting, which I was kind of weary of but we went with it:
akapoor said:
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akapoor said:
evilpig said:
Hey man, I was just reading the thread and I'm curious if you somehow snatched the domain before my webhost did.
If so just let me know I can give you the nameservers to connect it to the site. http://android.teamriot.net
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Yeah man, not sure how it happened. Because when I saw your post on XDA saying that you registered it, i had JUST hit the submit button on Godaddy for the domain.
It was taking a while (4-5 minutes) but then it finally came through.
That's very weird though, I'll admit
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Hmm well would you be able to point it to my nameservers once the domain finalizes? That would work great
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I think I'll stick with my current host for now - but if anything goes awry, you'll be the first in my mind to come to.
Btw : What's your Gtalk. I'll hit you up and we can collaborate on this.
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He gave me admin access and I went straight to work. Now go to log in today and see my account is gone, all my posts are deleted. And threads thanking ME have been renamed to akapoor.
Also the news on the front page is changed to his name and I have been locked out of my own site.
This makes me angry, and would like help from you guys to do something about it. Even though the project is slow right now, the fact that someone would do this is evil.
I contacted him and he said it was someone else blah blah blah. Yea a hacker will hack into the site and delete my accounts, and rename everything to you. He got me admin panel back, so I went and backed it all up and deleted it from his servers. And then I moved it back to mine. I don't trust this asshole.
Also I need someone to help manage the project, the person who originally started the project just disappeared, and I am just a webdev.
The project is up @ http://android.teamriot.net (I gotta fix the look of the forums later on in the week.)
that is some shady stuff right now. what's up with xda and all this shaddy stuff going on lately. anyways, glad u got it back up and running.
I dealt with this in the past, the forum I founded a few years back had a very slow start, it was just my playground really to post up project i've been working on while also be able to discuss things with users, didnt want a blog.anyway, a started a project that was unique in my field, only other person doing it was charging insane pricing to a teen crowd, I spent 6 months reversing a certain phones firmware and writing code for said project and after it was done was contacted by someone to team up....long story short things were going great until one morning I was locked out of my own system(I paid hosting, owned/ceated domain, did all the behind the scene projects and other guy handled the public forums). we got into vicious hacking wars lasting a few days while arguing with the hosting company back and forth over who actually owned the site. host locked both out until I proved I owned everything as well as paid the bills, all proven with receipts, emails, etc. I did eventually get back control and still have the site but its been a ghostown ever since. I only keep it up for the same purposes it was for originally....my playground. guy was trying to turn this into a profitable business but thats not why I do the things I do online., I do this stuff because I enjoy it.
If this is whats going on with you and this guy pulled a similar stunt I would walk away and never return. if you owned the domain, as well as legal rights to the database fight it, otherwise theirs going to be 2 sites with the same usersbase only 1 will be larger in the end...one will die. I know the situatation as to why It was started and honestly dont see a real need for it. it would be nice to replace all the closed portions but continuing the project would only come back later when HTC decides to crack down on drivers which unless you guys have the datasheets and skill/time to rewrite will take longer than its worth, which will need to be redone as new models come out. just gottta decide for yourself if its worth continuing with it.
Good luck, ****ty situation I know.
BinaryDroid said:
I dealt with this in the past, the forum I founded a few years back had a very slow start, it was just my playground really to post up project i've been working on while also be able to discuss things with users, didnt want a blog.anyway, a started a project that was unique in my field, only other person doing it was charging insane pricing to a teen crowd, I spent 6 months reversing a certain phones firmware and writing code for said project and after it was done was contacted by someone to team up....long story short things were going great until one morning I was locked out of my own system(I paid hosting, owned/ceated domain, did all the behind the scene projects and other guy handled the public forums). we got into vicious hacking wars lasting a few days while arguing with the hosting company back and forth over who actually owned the site. host locked both out until I proved I owned everything as well as paid the bills, all proven with receipts, emails, etc. I did eventually get back control and still have the site but its been a ghostown ever since. I only keep it up for the same purposes it was for originally....my playground. guy was trying to turn this into a profitable business but thats not why I do the things I do online., I do this stuff because I enjoy it.
If this is whats going on with you and this guy pulled a similar stunt I would walk away and never return. if you owned the domain, as well as legal rights to the database fight it, otherwise theirs going to be 2 sites with the same usersbase only 1 will be larger in the end...one will die. I know the situatation as to why It was started and honestly dont see a real need for it. it would be nice to replace all the closed portions but continuing the project would only come back later when HTC decides to crack down on drivers which unless you guys have the datasheets and skill/time to rewrite will take longer than its worth, which will need to be redone as new models come out. just gottta decide for yourself if its worth continuing with it.
Good luck, ****ty situation I know.
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Well lucky for me, I talked to him and he played dumb saying it wasn't him. I convinced him to give me passwords to the admin panel and got all my files and databases and deleted it from his server. So he has nothing but an empty domain now. He also logged into another admin account when I was moving it to my site and started deleting forums and users, I had to add the database to my site a 2nd time and instantly delete him and ban him.
I moved it back to my hosting (which I really wanted in the first place) and I will get a new domain in the near future.
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evilpig said:
Well lucky for me, I talked to him and he played dumb saying it wasn't him. I convinced him to give me passwords to the admin panel and got all my files and databases and deleted it from his server. So he has nothing but an empty domain now. He also logged into another admin account when I was moving it to my site and started deleting forums and users, I had to add the database to my site a 2nd time and instantly delete him and ban him.
I moved it back to my hosting (which I really wanted in the first place) and I will get a new domain in the near future.
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is he willing to transfer the domain name? you can always do that if you wanted to maintain the same name .. he just has to give authorization in the registrar for you to take the domain .. just a thought
LucidREM said:
is he willing to transfer the domain name? you can always do that if you wanted to maintain the same name .. he just has to give authorization in the registrar for you to take the domain .. just a thought
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I have the .org version, and I will transfer it to evilpig. Or I will point it to his DNS servers if he wants. I got it in the beginning before the .com site went up. So I just have it sitting there. I don't give a damn about the $10, so if the community will use it, I'll donate it.
evilpig: PM or email me and let me know if you want to use it. You can run the hosting so this can't happen again. I'll email you the transfer code or just change the DNS, whatever you want.
Evilpig (i love your avatar by the way) have you brought this to the attention of a forum Moderator? They should definitely be aware of anyone using this site to take advantage of other people. And what you've explained was a blatant disregard for any of us...
I believe what he did was intentional, from the beginning when you announced your intentions. This is unacceptable...
I hope something is done about it....
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I have the .org version, and I will transfer it to evilpig. Or I will point it to his DNS servers if he wants. I got it in the beginning before the .com site went up. So I just have it sitting there. I don't give a damn about the $10, so if the community will use it, I'll donate it.
evilpig: PM or email me and let me know if you want to use it. You can run the hosting so this can't happen again. I'll email you the transfer code or just change the DNS, whatever you want.
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Thanks man. The .org should be up in 24-48 hours.
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Evilpig (i love your avatar by the way) have you brought this to the attention of a forum Moderator? They should definitely be aware of anyone using this site to take advantage of other people. And what you've explained was a blatant disregard for any of us...
I believe what he did was intentional, from the beginning when you announced your intentions. This is unacceptable...
I hope something is done about it....
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I hope a mod will catch this thread and do something about it.
Ok so it's been brought to my attention that Evilpig's, accusations are purely FRAUD.
I agree that I had registered the domain - but I did not STEAL it. Since your host had not registered the domain in time, I had taken the opportunity to do so.
I'd like to clarify that Evilpig's was the one attempting to take over the hosting and domain the entire time. (see convo's below)
As per the logs, it turns out that Jared's IP was registered as last logged-in.
The biggest complication with the accusations that Jared is imposing is my own benefit of providing him with the administrator access after the situation.
As anyone can verify, I had not been an "active" member on the site. (in the sense that I would not log in everday.) I would visit the site on a weekly basis.
There would be no need for me to get into the site, change everything as Jared claims, and make the site my own.
You've been trying to persuade me for the hosting since day one.
9:08PM 9:08 PM
would you mind if I hosted the site and set up the domain to point to it?
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Oh and Jared, I'd like to remind you that you are failing to stay upto your word.
Jared: with this project
any money is going to you for hosting and the rest could be saved up for who knows what
3:25PM Jared: woot already $1.13 on ads
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I haven't received any compensation, as you stated would occur.
I've tried to contact you, but I get no response.
All in all : These actions were clearly done by him as his motive was to migrate the site/domain to his own hosting so that he could take total control.
His accusations toward me are considered defamation, and I hope this gives you a sense of the actual character of Evilpig's.
I do legally own the domain and what he has done is effectively theft of the site which is my intellectual property.
Actually, as he is the web dev and I see no contract, he owns anything he personally works on regardless of what domain he uploaded it to.
Period.
So... you own no intellectual rights to anything. You own no copyright, nor do you own any form or fashion anything carried on under the domain name.
You simply own a .com. Nothing more. Nothing less.
I don't want to get in the middle of this, but I work in the industry as a developer for web applications, graphic design, and minor creative development of projects. Without a contract, copyright, or trademark (in the case of logos or other property) all you can do is thank him for the work he did and move on.
This is why if you register a domain and collaborate with someone, you always have it in writing. Otherwise, when you try to screw someone, they can just walk away and take everything.
All you can do is feel bad that you didn't think it through first.
Well, I think Jared's role needs to be clarified then.
As far as web development goes, I had installed and configured all of the applications used, i.e. WordPress and phpBB.
All Jared had done was have someone create a banner and add it to the site, which I really don't consider to be "web development."
It would still be his content if he added to your wordpress in the form of posts and uploads. Regardless of his role. Again meaning that without a contract or some other legally binding action, you can't accuse him of stealing intellectual property.
I'm not picking sides, I just want to clarify to everyone before people start throwing mud in each others faces.
Last thing this community needs is people being shady and going behind each others backs. Open source is not about who did what and who gets the most fame and notification. It's about working on something for a greater cause as a community. Those who deserve it will get their recognition without stealing, threatening, or taking anything.

Signature Capture App?

So, i had an interview this morning for a job, and have an opportunity to earna great deal of brownie points with the business owners!
They were thinking of purchasing some sort of electronic signature capture device (like fedex or UPS has when you sign for a package) for invoices.. BUT.. I also mentioned my Droid Eris and how it can do so much... Turns out, both of the Owners have DROIDs lol..
Anyways.. I want to know if anyone has seen some sort of application that can capture signatures, and either save an image to be emailed, or email directly from the app..
OR does anyone know a DEV that could create something as simple as this, that I can talk to and relay updates on the APP to the owners of this company..
They seemed really interested in it, and I'm pretty positive it will show a good bit of initiative in saving their company money from the get-go (on my part)
It would be AWESOME to maybe have a custom app built, specifically for their company, but anything at this point (instant gratification method) would help!
Thank you guys in advance!
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So, i had an interview this morning for a job, and have an opportunity to earna great deal of brownie points with the business owners!
They were thinking of purchasing some sort of electronic signature capture device (like fedex or UPS has when you sign for a package) for invoices.. BUT.. I also mentioned my Droid Eris and how it can do so much... Turns out, both of the Owners have DROIDs lol..
Anyways.. I want to know if anyone has seen some sort of application that can capture signatures, and either save an image to be emailed, or email directly from the app..
OR does anyone know a DEV that could create something as simple as this, that I can talk to and relay updates on the APP to the owners of this company..
They seemed really interested in it, and I'm pretty positive it will show a good bit of initiative in saving their company money from the get-go (on my part)
It would be AWESOME to maybe have a custom app built, specifically for their company, but anything at this point (instant gratification method) would help!
Thank you guys in advance!
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Sounds like a good idea but it seems like it would be difficult to sign on a capacitative touch screen.
Yeah i understand that part, but I think "finger signing" wouldn't be too bad.. Would there be a way to use some sort of "stylus" maybe with a specialized tip that would actually work on the capacitive touch screen?
I'm mainly just wondering.. I think it would be cool to be able to save thousands of dollars on expensive equipment by using what they already have, and just didn't know they could use it.
Signing would be doable if a person could write one letter at a time. I only really know this because of the google expressions application.
They have styluses for cap screens, My mom has one for her iPad. It was really cheap too
<goes to see if it works with nexus one>
Actually you can build your own. (I tried to post you a link to a how to, but I am not permitted to do so)
mooch
I like this idea, and I think I will work on it. I can't make any promises though, if I choose to do this I will start screwing around with it in the next few days. If you have any feature requests go ahead and post them here. Or you can email me at burlyskink (at) gmail dot com
I have seen a local cable install company use moguls for this purpose
There is a signature capture library available for Android. Search for 'biz.binarysolutions.signature' on the Market. I am not allowed to post links, but the developer's site is hiding behind bit.ly / scfahp

[Q] The real question about Google +

At least for me. Let me state that plz try to give honest replyes here. This is not a thread for saying who's better or not. With this said, i been wondering a question about this new service. And i really hope you can understand my ramblings and honest question what you and others think.
First of, i have not tryed Google +. That might be because im currently in the Microsoft swamp and all happy about there services.
But a question thats been nagging me is how well Google + will do in the end. I belive that Google made great on pushing there services out. All that they set there minds to have been big success.
But from what i now understand, Google is trying to create a new Facebook alternative, and while i can see those happy with what Google offers, and happy Android userd, is this really enough to compete with Facebook?
My thought are being this.
Facebook been around for years now and even the most sceptical about there service, has finally given up there muterings and joined the community. I read about a lot of people getting angry about how many users they acctully have, but i think it's safe to say there are MANY right? And now that mothers, fathers, friends, old friends etc have found each other. How likely is there that all just pick there bags and change service. While not saying people won't, the vast majority is not. Or do you belive me to be wrong?
Heres a idea why i am asking this question, and also a good example to give you a picture of what i mean.
Remember ICQ, AIM, Mirc and all these services? I was a die hard user of ICQ and AIM. But after using this services for a while, i realized something important. I had few friends on my list that i actully socialised with in real life. And i had no family etc. So i asked around, and it turned out most regular people, not geeks, just regular folks that wanted a chatt service had from the start allready signed up for MS service then named just Messenger.
So i loggd on this messenger that i always disliked back then, and wosh!! My friend list got healthy and correct. I then installed clients of various brands (cant remember there name atm) and could now use all 3 of my favorite services in one.
As time passed by, live messenger arrived and all services inproved, to a degree i started questioning why i should keep AIM or ICQ. All my really good friends used Live Messenger, and as it turned out when i asked my ICQ friends etc, they had a account in Live to. I asked them to add me, and now i had all in one place. So i took my bags and left the others and have never looked back since.
So, i hope you now understand where im getting at. There is of cause a lot diffrent market now then it was back then. But i still wonder. Can a new service really out shine the allready established Facebook? Remember, in the end, people you talk to, or share stuff may not like the idea of a new service. There comfy with what they got now and might feel its just extra work that in the end woun't use.
History for me seems to be repeating it self again also in the chatt softwares. New ones have come, but how well will they do in the end? Now i realize market for example in USA will differ from my experience here in Sweden. After all you guys have Blackberry and other services being pushed that will never se the day of any use over here. But are there really such a big market that Live Services arent used on a large scale.
Now i shared my question, i hope you get my point, and also really arent comparing whos the best. All im thinking of is the well established services that i know of.
And belive me, i want to hear what you think on this thoughts. Will google be able to outlive, take over Facebook? I am really poundering these thoughts.
Also sorry for bad spelling etc since English is not native, and i typed it all from my phone
Only time will tell.
I completely understand your point. Why should they use another service when all of their friends are already on Facebook?
I personally believe people will move on just because its new. No social site stays number one. MySpace got old, Facebook is getting old, Google+ will get old, then on to the next one.
You will also have people who will say "Google+ is free, facebook is going to be a paid service soon" to justify the reasoning behind trying it.
Thnx for reply, a good point i havent thought of. And i bwlive you, almost :-D
A good service is always a good service. Thats why i belive ao many come up emty handed in the end vs Live. And get enough people abord, its gona be one though nut to crack.
But in that perspective, is Facebook good enough to keep its users? While i agree, only time will tell, and also Google to have almost unlimited time, a large base is a large bas.
Thnx for the ideas Vetvito, it gives a nice perspective. Keep em coming folks, educate me, cus i think its a inttressting topic, and its easy to want to know what you all think when Androis fans and fan site is allready giving praise. And while we all have to accept change, have these people now rapping down on Facebook give this a thought? Im not saying there wrong, but maybe a bit over the top poaetive, maybe because its Google? So many loves that company nowadays.
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You will also have people who will say "Google+ is free, facebook is going to be a paid service soon" to justify the reasoning behind trying it.
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Aha, another valid point. And if it's thrue, i give Google + a automatic win. Do you say this because its a fact, or just that Google fanatics will talk that way?
Another thing Google+ is integrated with Gmail. It doesn't require another sign up. I'm pretty sure they're going to bundle it with Android, and that should push Google+ forward.
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Another thing Google+ is integrated with Gmail. It doesn't require another sign up. I'm pretty sure they're going to bundle it with Android, and that should push Google+ forward.
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Yes thats thrue. Gmail is a big hit, so intergration would win them a lot of customers.
Is Gmail the service that will make Google + big then?
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Yes thats thrue. Gmail is a big hit, so intergration would win them a lot of customers.
Is Gmail the service that will make Google + big then?
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Personally I got pretty annoyed when they automaticly added Buzz to my gmail accounts.
I have no doubt Google+ will get they're fair marketshare, but I don't see that happening untill they open it fully up to the general public and keep it less bloated/spammy like facebook has become.
Hi There!
I think you have a really valid point by saying the history is repeating itself. Let me give you one personal example...
A few years ago here in Guatemala there was this really big time fever for the "Hi5" webpage... EVERYBODY had an account on it, then just a few friends receive an invitation to join Facebook and it started to grow slowly but steady...
Bear in mind here in Guatemala we are not always up to date with technology and stuffs but in a matter of 6~8 months the Facebook took at least 90% of the HI5 users.. Nowadays i can tell you only a really tiny portion of people still visits their Hi5 profiles.
So all this Google+ buzz is also being herd in Guatemala and a few of my friends already are joining the network, why? Because Facebook is getting bored and it's becoming a site that people look into to see what you can get and gosip all the way, the reason why FB is still strong here is because two of the 3 cell phone companies have some "Media" plans in which for a really amount you can have "free" and "Unlimited" visist to FB, Messenger, GTalk, Yahoo Messenger etc... So i think if those companies include Google+ or switch from FB to Google+ into their Media Plans it will have the same destiny as facebook had against Hi5..
Well those are just my thoughts and my 2 cents in this matter, and of course only time will tell what's going to happen
J!M
Nice to hear your thoughts all. Sounds so far that your theory is the same as i have on Mobile OS's. iPhone came, in the end a big hit. Android came and it seems like a bigger hit. Now Windows Phone soon will be knocking on the door. New OS's that innovate on a large scale tend to be the next player.
A thought about Facebook getting boring for people sharing there everyday life. Isnt that what its all about? Am i missing something here? I can see the point of all these games and stuff, it annoys me real bad. But people seems to love it. All my friends play games on Facebook. Me loving "real" games would rather die then touch thouse =P
Another question rises if Google + will take over. Can they really? I as a Microsoft user, and fan like to have axess to social media also. But since Google systematicly seems to try to block us out from there service, with Gmail being the only one standing out that works great on my Windows Phone (Weee a MS lover using competitors services! =P ) were still blocked by Google on, for instance, youtube.
What will we do then, where will we go?
Nakazul said:
At least for me. Let me state that plz try to give honest replyes here. This is not a thread for saying who's better or not. With this said, i been wondering a question about this new service. And i really hope you can understand my ramblings and honest question what you and others think.
First of, i have not tryed Google +. That might be because im currently in the Microsoft swamp and all happy about there services.
But a question thats been nagging me is how well Google + will do in the end. I belive that Google made great on pushing there services out. All that they set there minds to have been big success.
But from what i now understand, Google is trying to create a new Facebook alternative, and while i can see those happy with what Google offers, and happy Android userd, is this really enough to compete with Facebook?
My thought are being this.
Facebook been around for years now and even the most sceptical about there service, has finally given up there muterings and joined the community. I read about a lot of people getting angry about how many users they acctully have, but i think it's safe to say there are MANY right? And now that mothers, fathers, friends, old friends etc have found each other. How likely is there that all just pick there bags and change service. While not saying people won't, the vast majority is not. Or do you belive me to be wrong?
Heres a idea why i am asking this question, and also a good example to give you a picture of what i mean.
Remember ICQ, AIM, Mirc and all these services? I was a die hard user of ICQ and AIM. But after using this services for a while, i realized something important. I had few friends on my list that i actully socialised with in real life. And i had no family etc. So i asked around, and it turned out most regular people, not geeks, just regular folks that wanted a chatt service had from the start allready signed up for MS service then named just Messenger.
So i loggd on this messenger that i always disliked back then, and wosh!! My friend list got healthy and correct. I then installed clients of various brands (cant remember there name atm) and could now use all 3 of my favorite services in one.
As time passed by, live messenger arrived and all services inproved, to a degree i started questioning why i should keep AIM or ICQ. All my really good friends used Live Messenger, and as it turned out when i asked my ICQ friends etc, they had a account in Live to. I asked them to add me, and now i had all in one place. So i took my bags and left the others and have never looked back since.
So, i hope you now understand where im getting at. There is of cause a lot diffrent market now then it was back then. But i still wonder. Can a new service really out shine the allready established Facebook? Remember, in the end, people you talk to, or share stuff may not like the idea of a new service. There comfy with what they got now and might feel its just extra work that in the end woun't use.
History for me seems to be repeating it self again also in the chatt softwares. New ones have come, but how well will they do in the end? Now i realize market for example in USA will differ from my experience here in Sweden. After all you guys have Blackberry and other services being pushed that will never se the day of any use over here. But are there really such a big market that Live Services arent used on a large scale.
Now i shared my question, i hope you get my point, and also really arent comparing whos the best. All im thinking of is the well established services that i know of.
And belive me, i want to hear what you think on this thoughts. Will google be able to outlive, take over Facebook? I am really poundering these thoughts.
Also sorry for bad spelling etc since English is not native, and i typed it all from my phone
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There a few different reasons as to why I'm switching. First of all, Facebook seems to be buggier and buggier every day (even on multiple computers) and they continue to come out with more features (video chatting). They should STOP, fix the bugs, and then continue with growing. And as someone else has said, no social networking site will stay #1. Facebook is old now, it's been overused and now it's time for something else. With my experience thus far with Google+, I can say that is works very smoothly online and on my phone, way better than Facebook does. How it will act after it goes public is another story though.
Well i believe that Google+ has a chance to a certain group of people.
I see google as a mixture of Twitter & Facebook. But in a simple skin.
It has the following like system with it's circles but has the structure as a facebook.
Unlike facebook it doesn't come with games,poke,other junk (YET)
So i believe what will happen is the following. People on facebook will be either kids for the games or just visitors to check up on gossip.
Then on Google+ you'll get the more serious groups which would consist out of communities like these, companies.
I personally use it already to group together my company contacts in case of system failure IT based. With a simple click i can huddle with everyone in that circle from all companies searching for a solution. And it being perfectly integrated with your phone gives it a +. Not that FB or Twitter arn't perfectly integrated but to some degree the app is perfect crystal clear. Probably also due to it's simple form.
So to sum it up the reason i believe Google+ has a chance is cause of their Simplicity without all the gadgets (yet).
A tentative overview
Well...... i say this having played with google plus for about a week now i strongly believe the platform that is still in beta will *EVOLVE* simply because google is trying to truly dominate the social market. The fact that google is (no tthat facebook is not) a truly innovative company, and are willing to actually incorporate a number of changes to suit the end user, simply because in the end google is for self, and we the end user are what power the 'self' or entity that is google.
Lets start with the beta structure; first the way the modem of communication is far more elaborate than FB. Their already starting out adding video chat (which puts them to head with skype) where you can create 'huddle' so u can interact with multiple user at the same time. In addition you can 'invite' people who are not even g+ users to the conversation whether they have a web/front facing camera or not, in addition you can still communicate with voice option. There will be bugs to work out with vocal overlap issues of course but we are still in beta, which is one of the reasons why it's still not too google (;p) scale as of yet. I would say the whole chat situation will cause a stir in it self since it's intergrating so much of jump. Although it's not new the way they are coupling all of them together is innovative in it self.
Then of course you have circles (FB has list) in which the time consumption of ordering is by far reduced. The good thing about those is you can truly control the end user feed, meaning you control which of your circles see what you are posting at all times. So if you do not want your family seeing your weekend hobbies, you 'do' have that ability (i for one will add family members to profile now). Also stream segmentation, we all have different groups we're more privy to touch bases with, with G+ you have that option as well by isolating the streams that are displayed (in lue of FB's 'scroll down a list of b.s looking for what you wanna see or gong to each page individually) which instantly sky rockets manageability of your page.
Seriously i can keep on going and break it all down even further but that would be far too time consuming this late at night. But all in all G+ will spurn FB to make several radical changes or be ripped to shreds by the ever growing jaws of google. G's youth makes it appealing and their teams are young so they can relate to us more than most, not that FB and MSFT but their not supplying the product that we desire as the big G is. Android platform justifying that claim, although windows is reinventing them selves and apples in the midst of a make over as well, we can just say..... Daddy Googles keeping them on their toes.
Thats just a piece of my mind being a junior member but my thoughts are my thoughts. Please let me know what you think!!!

[Q] Question on pinging a phone

So, a conversation came up about a local 15 year old girl that went missing today. We started talking about her cell phone and it was said that she did, in fact, have one at the time of her disappearance. Knowing all the hacks and tools that are out for Android, we'd wondered if there were any way to ping her phone with just her number. I did a search on Google and there services that you can pay for, but they say they are not guaranteed to work. Sounds sketchy to me.
But I knew that if there were anyone that would know the answer to this, it would be here. Thanks in advance.
DaveTheBassist said:
So, a conversation came up about a local 15 year old girl that went missing today. We started talking about her cell phone and it was said that she did, in fact, have one at the time of her disappearance. Knowing all the hacks and tools that are out for Android, we'd wondered if there were any way to ping her phone with just her number. I did a search on Google and there services that you can pay for, but they say they are not guaranteed to work. Sounds sketchy to me.
But I knew that if there were anyone that would know the answer to this, it would be here. Thanks in advance.
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Hi, if you give your local police department the phone number they can ring it and should be able to track it. Thats the best way as they have access to more data/tracking systems than any consumer company

[Completed] Doggone Google

I assume this is one of those 2-sided issues that could almost be considered "touchy", so I'm going to be as forthcoming as possible.
A friend of mind brought me an LG K10 MS428 he purchased at a Halloween "Trash and Treasures" sale. Despite the fact a few of us may agree this acquisition being of the "Trash" half, my friend, nevertheless, would like to use the phone. The problem is, the phone had been reset, and a Google login requiring the former owner's password is needed to proceed. Not knowing the previous owner, this is obviously an issue.
I'm sure many would like to tell me, "Nothing you can do, tell my friend it'll make a nice paperweight." And part of me agrees with you.
However, I'd like to try to help because (first) I'd like to save face and (second) I feel it's rather silly to dispose of a phone obtained legally for legal reasons.
Does anyone here know of any way this might be bypassed? Can this issue be taken up with Google?
Just wondering
I was just wondering if the lack of response was:
a) I'm not explaining very well
b) no one knows
c) taboo subject matter
d) nobody likes me
Sorry for the delay
Try asking in the link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
Good luck

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