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Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
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Hi,
So.. Reading all these posts about this phone Im already contemplating returning it even though it hasnt arrived yet.
The main reason is the LCD bleeding mentioned by everyone. All the other battery inconsistencies, reboots, shutting down, wifi, whatever are all software and will be updated and fixed after all this is a new phone and as early adopters its part of the risk. BUT..... The LCD is a hardware issue, they purchased defective LCD screens and now they are going to have to sell all the units already manufactured before they make a batch with better LCDs.
Therefore, If I put so much money down on a phone, I dont mind the software bugs which can be fixed, I do mind hardware problems.
That being said I havent even received my phone yet but it does seem like returning it and waiting for the sensation would be a safer bet dont u think?
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if your into rooting and customizing the sensation might have a locked bootloader. also your phone might not have those issues. you could be sending back a perfect or close to perfect device. this is the first batch so you have to expect the worst. you can always return if you have issues.
This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
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This is going to be my first android phone so what is rooting and locked bootloader?
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oh okay. rooting is like jailbreaking a iphone. it opens your phone up to bigger and better things. a bootloader is basically security. without being able to unlock that you wont be able to use custom roms, and tweaks to make the phone better than what it is.
When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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When do we know the second batch of phones hit the stores?
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I would love to know that too since i returned mine a couple days ago and am waiting to get another one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062748 This poster said they received their phone and it was manufactured 4/29/11 and have not had a single bad issue thus far and everything is working better than before. Mine have been manufactured in early April, so perhaps this is an indication of a fixed batch of sorts.
See my thread of love thread. Manufacturer date of 4/6.
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IMO this phone rocks... As suggested by @ScooterG check out his thread about "thread of love". And another thing sometimes internet and blogs hipe things. Most of the ppl use their phones for 2-3 yrs and they see no problems in it. I know some ppl who still do not know what is FLASH and why some websites do not work with iPhone?? But only advice i would give you is, don ever trust everything you read. Try it yourself... Once you get the phone check things out like battery, reboot issue, freezing issue, lcd bleeding. If you think that ur phone is not good enough, return it.
One more thing i wanna tell you is, about LCD bleeding i agree that some ppl have really bad issues, but as far as the regular use is concerned minor lcd bleeding is unnoticeable. PPL check lcd bleeding by going in the dark room and opening black wallpapers or some app on their phones, now tell me one thing are you ever going to keep looking at black screen on your phone??? NO. You are going to watch videos, play games and do regular stuff. So use your phone like you are going to use for daily use and see if you encounter any problems.
About the Sensation and Galaxy s II, I loved both the phones, but then I realised that I want to root my phones and install custom ROMs on it. I don't think any of these 2 phones will be as easy to root and install custom ROMs on them as G2X. On top of that updates come fast for stock android phones for sure...
This is all my point of view. Read and think. Decide on your own.
I read all the good, bad, and ugly here before buying my G2x (replaced my beloved Nokia N900). Oddly, I had just the opposite reaction than you did. All the chatter here gave me a huge amount of confidence that whatever I didn't like about the G2x -- I could change with a little root magic and some apps.
And so I did. I'm very pleased.
I was a religious crackberry user(used iphone 1st gen and 3g too), then switched to a hd2(first unofficial android phone running gingerbread), then g2 now with the g2x. Be honest with you, the lcd bleeding is not noticable. I'm very happy with it so far.
The LCD bleeding is pretty minor. You really have to be in a completely black room with the screen showing black to notice it.
There are some extreme cases but I think they are rare, even for here.
I suspect the battery issues are a result of what people are installing or doing on their phone. From what I've read, "I've exchanged it 5 times and they all have battery issues"... tells me they are installing an app that eats battery or they are leaving games running in the background or something.
We do know the battery driver is wonky but the developers are working on a fix.
My phone lasts from 8am-midnight on my normal usage which consists of:
Several phones calls, frequently texting, playing WordFeud and Kingdoms Live (both online games) several times throughout the day, Push Exchange email (I get like 80-100 emails a day), I usually look up my horoscope once a day, I also have Push Gmail emails going, and Twitter, Facebook, and a weather widget that updates every 15minutes.
I also use google maps + gps, Google Voice Search, etc. periodically throughout the day also.
That's a ****load of usage ^ I would love to know how your getting that. I'm texting and idling my phone and I don't even get my phone to have that much usage
Hey,
Just wanted to start a little thread about the S4, just wanted to let everyone know its a really great phone, the advancements in this phone are truly amazing, and i already can't wait for a large amount of developers to get the phone.
Im hoping that we can use the gestures and tilts on more parts of the phone, and i guess this will come when more people have the phone.
So don't not give it a go, i haven't had any major incidents, battery life is pretty amazing in comparison to the S3, i used to notice that if i was reading something on a website you could actually see the battery draining, the battery is so strong on the S4 it took me a lot of surfing before i could see that battery draining.
I think we should all give the S4 a chance, give it a few days let things settle down, then complain.
Anyone has any comments feel free.
J
Early on in any phones lifetime you'll always see a ton of "this phone sucks" type complaints by people either 1) being trolls or 2) having disappointed expectations.
I would simply ignore the people in threads who complain and instead focus on the people in threads that actually enjoy the device. You will get much better information and experience from them
ap3604 said:
Early on in any phones lifetime you'll always see a ton of "this phone sucks" type complaints by people either 1) being trolls or 2) having disappointed expectations.
I would simply ignore the people in threads who complain and instead focus on the people in threads that actually enjoy the device. You will get much better information and experience from them
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Agreed.
In addition to that, I think Samsung has this year begun to partially enter what I like to call the 'too popular to be popular' phenomena. I.e. that flaw of human psychology that results in a backlash/hyper-critique of anything said company does/releases due to some people's desire to always go one way when (in their eyes) everyone else is going the other.
In other words, people love the underdog (which used to be samsung). Now that they're no longer really in that status, they are open to the hate that apple has long been a victim off. Bottom line: ignore it. There's nothing more achingly hip than not liking something lots of people like.
Previous victims include Apple, Facebook.....and apple again.
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i dont dislike apple because they are the big dogs... i dislike them because they are the furthest thing from open source you can get.
their only real advantage is simplicity, and support. you can go to an apple store and they will fix your problem.
the two things that are wrong with that:
-if you want something with extra simplicity, get a basic phone.
-i personally like to fix my stuff myself, and learn it myself, rather than have someone fix the problem for me and having to go back.
that being said, samsung caters to both markets with their easy and normal modes.
Bah, most negatives posted seem to be "One believers" and folks ticked about the low storage space for apps. Besides that it is good.
jcurran.jc said:
Hey,
Just wanted to start a little thread about the S4, just wanted to let everyone know its a really great phone, the advancements in this phone are truly amazing, and i already can't wait for a large amount of developers to get the phone.
Im hoping that we can use the gestures and tilts on more parts of the phone, and i guess this will come when more people have the phone.
So don't not give it a go, i haven't had any major incidents, battery life is pretty amazing in comparison to the S3, i used to notice that if i was reading something on a website you could actually see the battery draining, the battery is so strong on the S4 it took me a lot of surfing before i could see that battery draining.
I think we should all give the S4 a chance, give it a few days let things settle down, then complain.
Anyone has any comments feel free.
J
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So after a lot of days, finally I figured out a nice post. I am using note 2 and wanted to quickly jump to s4, but a lot of people here reporting heat issues, lag issues and battery issues. I wonder how you disagree with them? What was your previous device?
sohebq said:
So after a lot of days, finally I figured out a nice post. I am using note 2 and wanted to quickly jump to s4, but a lot of people here reporting heat issues, lag issues and battery issues. I wonder how you disagree with them? What was your previous device?
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Compared to my Nexus 4 the S4 lags like crazy (rooted and removed all of the crap and installed a custom launcher and enabled force gpu acceleration).
Toss3 said:
Compared to my Nexus 4 the S4 lags like crazy (rooted and removed all of the crap and installed a custom launcher and enabled force gpu acceleration).
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This is just crazy man. How can such a powerful device lag, totally surprising, even after removing all the bloat? Do you feel its a hardware or software issue?
sohebq said:
This is just crazy man. How can such a powerful device lag, totally surprising, even after removing all the bloat? Do you feel its a hardware or software issue?
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Its software. Samsung felt the need to rush 4.2.2 out instead of optimising it first.
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Haha you can't just read the good reviews, you have to read both bad and good. I promise you their is equal bs and exaggeration on the good ones and bad ones. Some people have different expectations from the phone though, hence the different opinions for it.
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Phone is great sammy will update software quickly hopefully to fix the minor stutter! Thats all it is stutter
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I have been using my S4 for last 4 days
I have been using Apex Launcher on top of it and never faced any lag on it with live wallpaper running in background all the time
Its super fast and the screen is brilliant
Loving it and enjoying playing with my S4
I have the red blacks issue but definitely no lag... it's extremely fluid, feels like continuous 60fps.
I like mine so far. There are some things that I don't like, but I think they're mostly addressable.
Mine does have some stutter to it, but the one thing that's baffling me right now, is that If I'm typing fairly fast in landscape mode, and there are a couple of sentences typed already, it starts lagging extremely bad, like half a second bad. I had this same problem with my Inspire 4G, so I would assume it's just Android related. I turned predictive text off, so I'm not sure what could be causing it.
Also, even though I have no real issue with the brightness, the fact that the screen will go brighter in auto-mode than it will by manually setting it to 100% kind of bothers me. I'm hoping that someone will find a way around that.
Coming from an Inspire 4G though, the build quality definitely feels much cheaper. The Inspire feels like a solid piece of machinery, and it survived multiple, brutal drops over a 2 year period, and the screen doesn't have so much as a scuff on it. After a few months I basically had no concern for its safety. The only thing protecting it was a cheap silicone case. If I clean it up real nice, it would still look new.
I'm probably about the only person out there who feels like the Inspire's size and heft was a feature, but it was honestly pretty nice to not have to worry about breaking your phone. I feel like I have to be extra careful with the S4 in comparison. I haven't gotten a case for it yet, but I'm certainly not brave enough to get a 10 dollar silicon cover and no screen protector. It feels like it could snap in half if I were to sit on it funny.
At the end of the day, the screen is what did it for me. As a plasma TV owner, I've come to loath LCD black levels, and the solid blacks of the S4 are a thing of beauty.
agreed. This phone is great. Couldn't ask for anything else. Hell of a camera
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I get better benchmarks with my HTC One than ur s4
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After doing some tweaking and replacing most of the animations, I'm pretty happy. Deleted A LOT of crap. Samsung should really learn to concentrate on one or two features instead of piling them on, and not putting any effort into actually making any of them work like they should. Can't really understand why they need a new TouchWiz framework to begin with when they could just add TW as a launcher and theme stock android to their liking. Especially considering its horrible performance. They haven't even gotten the animations to be smooth, and there's lag everywhere. Hope they go the HTC way with the S5, as less definitely is more.
paddylaz said:
Agreed.
In addition to that, I think Samsung has this year begun to partially enter what I like to call the 'too popular to be popular' phenomena. I.e. that flaw of human psychology that results in a backlash/hyper-critique of anything said company does/releases due to some people's desire to always go one way when (in their eyes) everyone else is going the other.
In other words, people love the underdog (which used to be samsung). Now that they're no longer really in that status, they are open to the hate that apple has long been a victim off. Bottom line: ignore it. There's nothing more achingly hip than not liking something lots of people like.
Previous victims include Apple, Facebook.....and apple again.
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sohebq said:
So after a lot of days, finally I figured out a nice post. I am using note 2 and wanted to quickly jump to s4, but a lot of people here reporting heat issues, lag issues and battery issues. I wonder how you disagree with them? What was your previous device?
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I love it.
I haven't had any overheating and find the phone to be super smooth.
Battery is pretty good in comparison to the s3
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I've read alot of the threads and it does seem like alot of mixed reviews about it... i'm coming from a s3 so i'm hoping i'll be impressed besides the screen (sorry i love amoled)
i hope the problems everyone been talking about is gonna be fixed by google updates or what not
you're coming from an S3?
Prepare to have your pants blown off by a pure google experience.
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you're coming from an S3?
Prepare to have your pants blown off by a pure google experience.
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well i broke my s3 a couple months back and been with the bb9900 but i did vow to buy the next google flagship
ahahah i've been with the google expirience from roms but not from a nexus maybe it'll be a difference
there is a difference. Something you'll learn quickly: pure google developed by thousands of people for a certain device will always be smoother than a port done by a small group of people.
I came from an S3 myself, I ran AOKP on it most of its life. IMO, the N5 easily tops it in all aspects. The screen is ridiculously sharp, and color reproduction is great compared to the S3's pentile display. The camera works SO MUCH better in lower light scenarios that it's not even funny. Actually, it works better in every scenario that I've tried so far. HDR+ is also quite nice and can really make for some great shots. Battery life I can't really comment on since I just got it today, but I've already gotten more screen on time out of it than I ever managed with my S3, and the N5 came out of the box at 80% charged for me.
So, two big things to remember:
1. The people most prone to posting experiences online are going to be those with either an overwhelming positive or negative experience, and based off of my admittedly personal observations, negative reports almost always outweigh positive ones in terms of passion (if not quantity) - regardless of the quality of the product. In other words: one or two frustrated people tend to make infinitely more noise than ten to twenty happy ones; consequently, that doesn't mean the product in question is a dud.
2. This is the inaugural batch of hardware. There are going to be a few minor kinks in this first batch that will be fixed with the next production runs from the factory. Usually this is very minor. Unrefined edges, very slight chassis tweaks, etc. Part and parcel for impatience and immediate gratification is the roll of the dice that you might get a unit that is... a bit alpha
All this being said, the answer to your question is...
Absolutely not.
Mine is going to be delivered tomorrow, but there have been enough variances in the reports and reviews for me to definitely believe that most units are of excellent quality, and any "lemons" out there are well within the bounds of what is to be expected from an initial hardware distribution. Plus, it also helps that almost all gripes seem to be more software related than hardware - and will be fixed by Google in the coming weeks.
if there's something wrong with it, dont be afraid to RMA it immediately. especially on a first batch of hardware. put it throw all the tests you can at it, i bet you could google this and find out a great set of apps to run on it as soon as you get it. i like cpu and gpu benchmark apps as well as a flashing color screen testing apps(to check for bad pixels), plus any testing that you yourself will be doing. like extended periods of gaming or youtube watching or even just browsing, even if you dont plan on every playing a game for 2 hours straight, do it and see if there's any hiccups.
From my experience and research, if you get one with no defects than your in great shape.
If you do get one with a defect like me (speaker defective causing massive distortions in phone calls and most audio) then you had a really bad day.
neok44 said:
From my experience and research, if you get one with no defects than your in great shape.
If you do get one with a defect like me (speaker defective causing massive distortions in phone calls and most audio) then you had a really bad day.
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bro why not just call google and get a replacement before its to late =D
Im also really unsure with my decision buying the N5.. Im coming from an Xperia Z which is IMO a good Phone, but not really that smooth.. Do you think it will be a big step up?
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answers important please
in other words what do u hate about ur phone ? (note 4 edge)
I cant even think this swap.Note Edge is a killer,love that device for its unique design with great specs.
Waleedaligomaa said:
answers important please
in other words what do u hate about ur phone ? (note 4 edge)
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I hate the fact that my 915A has a locked bootloader, so no custom roms
well my g4 is locked too no customs for it that is nearly the main reason am swapping for
well i am offered n915p can that be unlocked ? and i heard that Spen and edge screen dont work with customs is that true ? thanks
The note edge is the best phone ever made IMO. (Primarily due to the edge)
The edge should become a standard feature.
Waleedaligomaa said:
answers important please
in other words what do u hate about ur phone ? (note 4 edge)
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This is probably heresy to say this in this forum but I honestly don't think it's a good idea. I bought the G4 for my girlfriend a couple of months ago and from my limited usage of it, I absolutely love it. The interface is far more responsive (compared to either 4.4.4 or 5.1.1 on the Note Edge) and I like the little touches LG did like swiping down on the screen when the screen is off to see the time. The Note Edge has a similar feature when you rub the Edge screen but there is a considerable delay when it works and often it doesn't. This is a small point but it basically sums up Samsung's software IMO.
Her battery life is also far better than mine with at least an hour of extra screen on time and very little loss during standby.
I do love the Edge screen though and it makes switching between apps a real joy. But I'm starting to think that the performance trade off is not worth it. I've experimented with all kinds of custom/stock ROM and kernel combinations and there was always some kind of major trade-off. I've now settled on the RiverROM COH2 5.1.1 by Evren35 which is remarkably good if not slightly on the low battery life side but the stock G4 ROM already has excellent performance/battery life ratio IMO. If it weren't for the fact that newer phones are just around the corner, I would most likely switch to the G4 now.
marcolorenzo said:
This is probably heresy to say this in this forum but I honestly don't think it's a good idea. I bought the G4 for my girlfriend a couple of months ago and from my limited usage of it, I absolutely love it. The interface is far more responsive (compared to either 4.4.4 or 5.1.1 on the Note Edge) and I like the little touches LG did like swiping down on the screen when the screen is off to see the time. The Note Edge has a similar feature when you rub the Edge screen but there is a considerable delay when it works and often it doesn't. This is a small point but it basically sums up Samsung's software IMO.
Her battery life is also far better than mine with at least an hour of extra screen on time and very little loss during standby.
I do love the Edge screen though and it makes switching between apps a real joy. But I'm starting to think that the performance trade off is not worth it. I've experimented with all kinds of custom/stock ROM and kernel combinations and there was always some kind of major trade-off. I've now settled on the RiverROM COH2 5.1.1 by Evren35 which is remarkably good if not slightly on the low battery life side but the stock G4 ROM already has excellent performance/battery life ratio IMO. If it weren't for the fact that newer phones are just around the corner, I would most likely switch to the G4 now.
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thanks alot !
Sacrilegious that anyone can think that the edge isn't everything! !
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Sacrilegious that anyone can think that the edge isn't everything! !
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I'll let you know if I haven't put a hammer through mine in the next six months!
I've come close more than once.
The Radius Kid said:
I'll let you know if I haven't put a hammer through mine in the next six months!
I've come close more than once.
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Me too, although now that I'm running the RiverROM, I have very little problems (just slightly too high RAM usage but hasn't really affected performance and battery life that's okay on an average day but can't be relied upon sometimes). I just think the G4 is a better experience overall.
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Me too, although now that I'm running the RiverROM, I have very little problems (just slightly too high RAM usage but hasn't really affected performance and battery life that's okay on an average day but can't be relied upon sometimes). I just think the G4 is a better experience overall.
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I'm definitely not trying to knock anyone's opinion but just thought I'd toss mine into the mix too. I always try to stay open minded with companies because I'm aware and understand that we don't live in a perfect world, and I hate to say it but the only company that has ever gotten me to say "I'll never buy another one of their products again".. is LG. I don't know if you guys remember it but I'm pretty sure anyone who had this phone too will understand exactly where I'm coming from, but it's from when I made the unfortunate mistake of getting the LG G2X when it was first launched. This was back when dual core processors had just came out and there was a ton of hype for the new ICS update that was coming out soon.
It was supposed to be LG's "flagship" device and I still clearly remember the store where I got it from had an advertisement on the wall for it that said.. "Android Ice Cream Sandwich update will be coming out soon and the LG G2X will be getting it as soon it does!".. as one of it's selling points. I'll admit it was a long time ago so it might not have said exactly that word for word, but regardless I specifically remember it saying that the G2X would be getting the upcoming ICS update because it was used as one of it's selling points.
Don't get me wrong though because I've always and still do instantly root and usually run custom roms on all of my phones as soon as I get them, so I've personally never given a squirt about updates because a major benefit of rooting and custom roms is that you're not just stuck having to wait for one to come out. Unfortunately though in this situation without an update it meant the phone was practically unusable, because the problems with LG's out of the box software were underlying... so even when you flashed a custom rom the problems would always still be there.
Well not only did we NOT get the ICS update that LG had promised, but EVEN AFTER it was proven and they KNEW that their out of the box software was plagued with multiple and daily random reboots, excessive and practically unbearable lag, constant crashes, almost nonexistent gps (because it was a miracle if you ever got it lock on), overheating, and terrible battery life.. they STILL refused to and never did release a single update for it, and believe it or not that's not even the worst part! There were a lot of devs here on xda who tried like hell to fix the problems with LG's software to at least make the G2X usable, but they weren't able to because LG hadn't made it's drivers available to the public for some reason.
I'm not a developer so I don't know all of the details but from what the devs said at the time was that the drivers they needed in order to get in and fix all of the problems that plagued the G2X.. is something that is usually released to the public. So they contacted LG and asked them to release the drivers so they can at least fix the problems themselves (since the update that LG had promised was never released)... and they STILL refused to release them.
So LG released a phone that had ridiculously broken software and even on top of getting a ton of complaints along with the fact that they had promised the G2X would get the ICS update as a selling point.. they STILL never released an update for it! Then even when devs who owned it were willing to do their job for them and fix it themselves just to make it usable at least.. they STILL wouldn't even do that! They totally hung their G2X owners out to dry and even though they knew damn well their software was plagued with problems which practically made the G2X unusable on top of the fact that they had claimed it would be updated as a selling point.. Not only did they still never release an update for it, but then they also refuse to even release the drivers needed for people who were willing to do their job for them and fix it themselves just so they could have a usable phone??!!
Ultimately LG refused to lift a finger and never released the update they had promised or even the drivers so people could at least fix it themselves, and that's why personally I will NEVER buy another LG phone again (and even now it still pisses me off just thinking about it lol)! Anyway sorry for the long novel but just thought I'd share my experience because I'd never recommend going with LG, they've made it painfully obvious (to me anyway) that they couldn't care less about their customers and they won't lift a finger to fix a problem you might have.. even when it's their fault!
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jeep447 said:
I'm definitely not trying to knock anyone's opinion but just thought I'd toss mine into the mix too. I always try to stay open minded with companies because I'm aware and understand that we don't live in a perfect world, and I hate to say it but the only company that has ever gotten me to say "I'll never buy another one of their products again".. is LG. I don't know if you guys remember it but I'm pretty sure anyone who had this phone too will understand exactly where I'm coming from, but it's from when I made the unfortunate mistake of getting the LG G2X when it was first launched. This was back when dual core processors had just came out and there was a ton of hype for the new ICS update that was coming out soon.
It was supposed to be LG's "flagship" device and I still clearly remember the store where I got it from had an advertisement on the wall for it that said.. "Android Ice Cream Sandwich update will be coming out soon and the LG G2X will be getting it as soon it does!".. as one of it's selling points. I'll admit it was a long time ago so it might not have said exactly that word for word, but regardless I specifically remember it saying that the G2X would be getting the upcoming ICS update because it was used as one of it's selling points.
Don't get me wrong though because I've always and still do instantly root and usually run custom roms on all of my phones as soon as I get them, so I've personally never given a squirt about updates because a major benefit of rooting and custom roms is that you're not just stuck having to wait for one to come out. Unfortunately though in this situation without an update it meant the phone was practically unusable, because the problems with LG's out of the box software were underlying... so even when you flashed a custom rom the problems would always still be there.
Well not only did we NOT get the ICS update that LG had promised, but EVEN AFTER it was proven and they KNEW that their out of the box software was plagued with multiple and daily random reboots, excessive and practically unbearable lag, constant crashes, almost nonexistent gps (because it was a miracle if you ever got it lock on), overheating, and terrible battery life.. they STILL refused to and never did release a single update for it, and believe it or not that's not even the worst part! There were a lot of devs here on xda who tried like hell to fix the problems with LG's software to at least make the G2X usable, but they weren't able to because LG hadn't made it's drivers available to the public for some reason.
I'm not a developer so I don't know all of the details but from what the devs said at the time was that the drivers they needed in order to get in and fix all of the problems that plagued the G2X.. is something that is usually released to the public. So they contacted LG and asked them to release the drivers so they can at least fix the problems themselves (since the update that LG had promised was never released)... and they STILL refused to release them.
So LG released a phone that had ridiculously broken software and even on top of getting a ton of complaints along with the fact that they had promised the G2X would get the ICS update as a selling point.. they STILL never released an update for it! Then even when devs who owned it were willing to do their job for them and fix it themselves just to make it usable at least.. they STILL wouldn't even do that! They totally hung their G2X owners out to dry and even though they knew damn well their software was plagued with problems which practically made the G2X unusable on top of the fact that they had claimed it would be updated as a selling point.. Not only did they still never release an update for it, but then they also refuse to even release the drivers needed for people who were willing to do their job for them and fix it themselves just so they could have a usable phone??!!
Ultimately LG refused to lift a finger and never released the update they had promised or even the drivers so people could at least fix it themselves, and that's why personally I will NEVER buy another LG phone again (and even now it still pisses me off just thinking about it lol)! Anyway sorry for the long novel but just thought I'd share my experience because I'd never recommend going with LG, they've made it painfully obvious (to me anyway) that they couldn't care less about their customers and they won't lift a finger to fix a problem you might have.. even when it's their fault!
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I'm sorry for your experience. Funnily enough, I did once say to myself that I will never again buy an LG phone but that was after I got their first "Prada" phone way back before even the first iPhone. It was just a ****ty overall experience. Whilst what you described is worrying, I think it can't be used to describe LG now, at least not when it comes to the G4. The G4 has been pretty fast with updates and the Marshmallow update has already been pushed to some people's devices with more to follow (one of the first devices that's not a Nexus or out of the box Marshmallow devices I think).
I've had issue with many companies when it comes to updates including HTC (they kept promising updates were coming soon even though it came several months later) and Samsung (whose updates often made the device worse in terms of battery life or responsiveness). None of them are probably as severe as what you described but if the G4 is anything to go by, I think LG has learnt from their past mistakes.
Correct me if I'm wrong here:
Isn't advertizing a product for sale with a promise of future support in the form of updates and not delivering considered false advertizing amounting to fraud?
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I'm sorry for your experience. Funnily enough, I did once say to myself that I will never again buy an LG phone but that was after I got their first "Prada" phone way back before even the first iPhone. It was just a ****ty overall experience. Whilst what you described is worrying, I think it can't be used to describe LG now, at least not when it comes to the G4. The G4 has been pretty fast with updates and the Marshmallow update has already been pushed to some people's devices with more to follow (one of the first devices that's not a Nexus or out of the box Marshmallow devices I think).
I've had issue with many companies when it comes to updates including HTC (they kept promising updates were coming soon even though it came several months later) and Samsung (whose updates often made the device worse in terms of battery life or responsiveness). None of them are probably as severe as what you described but if the G4 is anything to go by, I think LG has learnt from their past mistakes.
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Yeah I definitely understand what you're saying and I always try to keep an open mind so hopefully you're right and they have changed for the better, and from what you've said it sounds like they're at least doing a pretty good job with the G4 anyway. It just sucks when you get a device from a company that is supposed to be their "flagship", only to have to be stuck with a paperweight because they decided to abandon it and move on to something else. I know I'm not the only one that's ever happened to and that LG isn't the only company that's ever done it either, like you said hopefully they've learned from their mistakes but it's just hard to get rid of that taste in your mouth when something like that happens to you. Anyway if G4 is the phone you've got now or are planning to get I hope everything works out for ya.
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I mean you'd think right? The problem for me was that I couldn't prove it along with the fact that T-Mobile might have put that sign up "thinking" that it would get the update because it was a flagship device. I know a lot of people were talking about a class action lawsuit but I guess it never happened, I wound up getting so tired of dealing with it that I just sold it outright (luckily thank god) and I'm trying to remember but I think I went to the Galaxy S2 from there. Anyway I can't say for 100% sure but I'd say you're absolutely right, but if you don't have proof I guess it means you're just SOL.. lol
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Yeah I definitely understand what you're saying and I always try to keep an open mind so hopefully you're right and they have changed for the better, and from what you've said it sounds like they're at least doing a pretty good job with the G4 anyway. It just sucks when you get a device from a company that is supposed to be their "flagship", only to have to be stuck with a paperweight because they decided to abandon it and move on to something else. I know I'm not the only one that's ever happened to and that LG isn't the only company that's ever done it either, like you said hopefully they've learned from their mistakes but it's just hard to get rid of that taste in your mouth when something like that happens to you. Anyway if G4 is the phone you've got now or are planning to get I hope everything works out for ya.
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I mean you'd think right? The problem for me was that I couldn't prove it along with the fact that T-Mobile might have put that sign up "thinking" that it would get the update because it was a flagship device. I know a lot of people were talking about a class action lawsuit but I guess it never happened, I wound up getting so tired of dealing with it that I just sold it outright (luckily thank god) and I'm trying to remember but I think I went to the Galaxy S2 from there. Anyway I can't say for 100% sure but I'd say you're absolutely right, but if you don't have proof I guess it means you're just SOL.. lol
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It's funny, I just came across this article yesterday where they talked about how in the Netherlands, Samsung is being sued for not updating their phones...
How could you in right mind ask that question? You can't compare the two. Prefer Note edge any day.
Are there any exynos users without facing problems with the device ?
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Are there any exynos users without facing problems with the device ?
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Me. So far. 128gb/8g burgundy. Find it runs normally. Smooth, battery seems OK.
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It speaks volumes about the S22 Exynos devices that there is a thread with the title, "Exynos users without problems?".
it's common , problems to be heard first ... but let's see how many users don't...
GSMArena released their review of the S22+, they said Exynos performs great but its inconsistent and they assume its software. Looking at everyone's phone they are on January patch, so I would hope there is a big one coming this week.
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GSMArena released their review of the S22+, they said Exynos performs great but its inconsistent and they assume its software. Looking at everyone's phone they are on January patch, so I would hope there is a big one coming this week.
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I had something similar with my N20U and S21U when they came out, S21U was horrible the first two days, and Samsung pushed about 4 updates in 15 days for that device
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I had something similar with my N20U and S21U when they came out, S21U was horrible the first two days, and Samsung pushed about 4 updates in 15 days for that device
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That is honestly what Im hoping.
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That is honestly what Im hoping.
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It will work out fine you'll see.. I'm waiting for mine on Saturday and I know I'll be facing some stuff when I starting it
Had mine 24 hours and it's brilliant, no lag, great battery life already (40% = 4 SOT) and still learning, S-Pen is very responsive, not felt any heat of the device even playing Mario Kart DS in an emulator it was chill.
I know people want Samsung to fail, it seems they spend a lot of time in Samsung forums searching for issues to highlight but XDA has become toxic. 50% of the people posting in S21U and S22U don't have the phone and just waste time hating on it and posting issues they found online about it with zero experience of it. This is not the XDA I used to spend time in talking about ROMs, modding phones or just ways to get more out of your phone. Now all I see is why that phone of this chipset is crap, how bad battery is, how manufacturers will rue the day they dropped SD Cards, and unlocking breaking the warranty is bad. I'm done with the toxicity, enjoy you trolls and I hope you all one day find your phone so that you too can be positive rather than tearing other peoples choices down.
I am going to request my account be deleted and enjoy the phone I chose.
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Had mine 24 hours and it's brilliant, no lag, great battery life already (40% = 4 SOT) and still learning, S-Pen is very responsive, not felt any heat of the device even playing Mario Kart DS in an emulator it was chill.
I know people want Samsung to fail, it seems they spend a lot of time in Samsung forums searching for issues to highlight but XDA has become toxic. 50% of the people posting in S21U and S22U don't have the phone and just waste time hating on it and posting issues they found online about it with zero experience of it. This is not the XDA I used to spend time in talking about ROMs, modding phones or just ways to get more out of your phone. Now all I see is why that phone of this chipset is crap, how bad battery is, how manufacturers will rue the day they dropped SD Cards, and unlocking breaking the warranty is bad. I'm done with the toxicity, enjoy you trolls and I hope you all one day find your phone so that you too can be positive rather than tearing other peoples choices down.
I am going to request my account be deleted and enjoy the phone I chose.
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or people constantly nagging on how the SPEN is on the "wrong" side lol. I feel this post because I remember joining this forum way back with really old devices just for the fun of rooting. it has now become a place for trolls, haters, marketing experts, etc. Would be sad to see someone from the old school leave.
To clarify this post reason is to understand what is really going on. I have been waiting for the phone day after day and I have definitely been influenced by what I read here. But I really believe that after the first upgrade everything will be adjusted...
I use it for 2 days. No problem yet. My biggest fear was recording the calls. But call recording works perfectly. Battery average, but I believe it will improve.
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I had something similar with my N20U and S21U when they came out, S21U was horrible the first two days, and Samsung pushed about 4 updates in 15 days for that device
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Yeah, I remember that.
Today I've received my 12/256. So far so good. No fingerprint glitch, no YouTube w/WQHD+ glitch
Having issues setting up Samsung pay+, I try to add my natwest card to it as my first card but it says its already added. I can't add natwest card to normal Samsung pay because natwest doesn't support it
Got my S22U/Exy/512gb on thursday, feels a bit sluggish in some applications, like in the early days of counterstrike, when you accidentally had software rendering activated instead of 3dfx/opengl/direct3d .... some of you might know what I mean here
some further bugs:
the screen turns completely black if I scroll up or down a website, that might not have been completely loaded or has some gifs or embededded videos in them. If you scroll fast, you might have turned the screen off so that you have to turn the device back on with a button or double-tap on the screen (even this might not work then) , if you scroll slower and the screen turns black, it might come back to normal if you stop the scrolling.
very strange behaviour, hope(and pretty sure ) samsung does update very soon.....
if not... i'm all in for a root and custom rom
Mine is laggy and my s-pen keeps jamming too!
Absolutely fine so far. I have the 512 GB one. The battery seems to be going a little bit faster than the S21 Ultra, but nothing too bad
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I use it for 2 days. No problem yet. My biggest fear was recording the calls. But call recording works perfectly. Battery average, but I believe it will improve.
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Hi. I will get mine in a few hours What are you using for call recording? Built-in or an app?
Given that only a few users report this and the lines remind me of bad VRAM overclocks on desktop GPUs, I assume it has something to do with silicon lottery and that some RDNA chips are pushed too far. I think Samsung will release an update either bumping the voltage (probably not) or reduce its clocks slightly to fix it.
It is quite likely that it is hardware related since with software there should be more devices being affected at least in a particular use case. But nothing software wouldn't be able to fix. Please note that this only an assumption (!)