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Is there a application that could execute a remote task29 if phone gets stolen?
Most of theves are dump so would not know how to put the OS back on.
The normal way of IMEI blocking does not work, some networks will not care to block, some will not communicate to others so it will be blocked for example on O2 but not t-mobile... We all also know that you just need to sell a IMEI blocked unit abroad.
Two functions would need to be present:
Function 1 a remote wipe so you send a txt message.
Function 2 is to wipe the phone if new sim is inserted and password is not provided. Such software would need to be able to cook itself in to rom.
Second possibility for Function 2 is each time new sim is inserted a txt message is sent on pre-arranged mobile number and then use remote wipe.
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
nrfitchett4 said:
lookout mobile security has that feature of remote wipe.
www.mylookout.com
antivirus, remote wipe, and gps locator all work.
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It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
ruscik said:
It is not even remotely the same as even if you do wipe the device it is still usable, there is just you data erased. I am talking OS erased so phone does not work, so you can get it to bootloader and only if you know how.
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considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
nrfitchett4 said:
considering you cannot even task29 unless you are synced to a computer, how do you suppose this can be accomplished???
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I am not a software developer but I would say a app that works just before OS boots.
TBH task29 seems like the best idea as if you were to get the phone back you could get it back online but any app that would brick the phone remotely is what one needs.
I am quite certain something like that could be done.
why not have it flash a bricking radio from sd card or within the rom, if the command is send?
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
davidgk said:
how about an app then makes the phone transform into a plane and fly back to you?
its impossible what you are asking for afaik
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
Its a very good idea, hope some1 can do it..
my hats off to you sir, a very good idea!
Now if there is only a developer skilled enough to realise it!
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Bolox I can flash radio or OS from SD card. All a app would need to do is get phone to bootloader on command and have, as suggested, a bricked rom for radio on SD card. A bricked radio rom would not need to be big in size so a cab installer would work.
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but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
nrfitchett4 said:
but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Might be so, but if knowledge gets around that more and more phones can (and will) be bricked remotely once stolen, why steal?
I think it would be a very useful feature on any phone.
So I agree with the question for such an app.
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nrfitchett4 said:
but what does this achieve for you???
A phone wiping program would wipe personal data.
What would bricking the phone do except make the phone unusable?
You'll still be out a phone...
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Well why do you fit a alarm on a car when it is gone it is gone, why do you put alarm in a house when they come they come.
Something odd with this statement. Why would you think it is ok for some one who stole my phone to use it when I had to work for it?
For me best solution would be to have it wired with C4 and 5s in to first phone call boom!!!
As that would be illegal second option brick the phone.
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Since when does a car alarm or home alarm burn down my house or car? That is essentially the same thing. If someone breaks into my house and steals my 60" dlp, I can't remote detonate it either.
I'm guessing that I don't understand. Maybe it is my long history with cdma phones that had esn's that could be blocked making the phones worthless (usually) once stolen.
Ill build it .... i just need a few beta testers?
Any takers?
jk.. i actually like the idea of disabling my phone if i knew it was gone for sure. .but i dont think i would be comfortable running around with this bomb in my phone unless i knew how to fix it.. and a bricked radio (easiest remote detonate solution) is obviously unfixable.
you know I was hoping this topic was headed in a different direction. like the phone company or microsoft running ras commands. like injecting and changing your files around so when you go to flash the seed will be planted for later execution. but dude if your phone gets stolen beat the punk bastards ass. or make sure you have handset protection. stupid topic. its just gonna add to the bricked my phone posts but not before they go on a couple of paragraphs of how they know what there doing but this and but that. wow then its gonna keep spreading like a ****ing plauge of dumb ass questions instead of keeping their cocksucker shut and read and learn. if your not f-ing it up, then your not learning.
i remember the sony ericsson p910, p990, and p1i could have set a sim password that works the same way the bios password works on most laptops with this feature... once the sim changed or the phone is flashed, the password must be entered to boot into the OS, personally i think this should be standard on every mobile OS...
and regardless how much times you reinstall windows, flash the bios, or remove the bios battery, the password remains, kinda annoying but at least it works
There are already some really good apps available for if your phone is lost or stolen. I don't know the names off the top of my head but I did some help on development on one 2 years ago and it was quite advanced and will send you silent text containing the new IME number if changed and the GPS location. Rendering the phone useless would be stupid in my opinion if you intend on retrieving it. let the security software do it's job and be happy to get your phone back.
I am looking to buy a used captivate soon and I had an alarming thought..
To make purchases from google market you do have to enter credit card info..
So what if someone bought the phone, installed monitoring software on the phone, turned around and sold it.. They could break even on cost.. *AND* if they were lucky when someone else went to use the phone.. they would get the cred card info of that person..
And on ebay/craigslist... its not like you could pin it back to the person very easily..
Assuming I bought a phone and master reset it would that fix any possibly problems? I know in windows you reinstalling the OS will usually wipe just about anything out..
However, I know that if you have root.. on a phone you can do far more.. I don't know if having root would be enough to put something on the phone that could not be gotten rid of with a simple master reset.
I am sorry if this sounds paranoid.. But, I am a comp sci major.. Software security isn't my specialty.. but, I am hoping to dev for phones soon and think this is a pretty fair question, since the information is handled differently in linux (and I suppose now android) than it would be on a comp running windows xp for example..
I am asking because i know even after a master reset some things linger on most phones... so if someone installed a keylogger of some sort.. would it be able to survive a master reset?
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Lol... Let me put it this way.. I once read an article hear with some one talking about how he doesn't want "google knowing where he is" and "google reading his mail" ect ect ect.
And I understand privacy concerns.. but, he was well.. reaching the point of flat out goofy.
I am asking based on what I perceive to be a valid fear looking at it from a logical perspective.
If someone installed some sort of keylogger for the phone, would it be able to survive a master reset?
I mean I know that whats on your sim card is not usually deleted.. and I forget if this phone has dedicated or removable memory or some combination of both..
However, assuming its a 16gb removable.. You could hypothetically install it to the flash memory.. If its not removable.. I am less certain how that dedicated storage is handled on phones. I know that you generally format a hard drive before installing an os.. or it gets partitioned off..
So if a logger was installed onto the dedicated/removeable memory would it be partitioned off and allowed to continue working?
If I didn't see valid cause for concern I wouldn't be here.. But, I'm sure the devs around here know more about this and can give a good answer!
If this is all coming to my mind... I'm sure some crazy cracker out there has already thought of and either created/working on implimenting it.
google will nevr read your mail. google is your friend!
if you have a virus on it or think you have, plug it in your computer and scan with av software.
i don't think that a virus could survive master reset.
and why are you worrying about this? ive bought second hand phones before and they have been ok.
try eBay.
You don't seem to have read my thing properly.
What I am trying to say is I have read an thread with a guy who was paranoid google was going to read his mail ect.
What I am saying is I'm worried about a second hand person creating a virus.
I could be wrong but, plugging the phone into a computer would do absolutely nothing as far as antivirus protection if I'm worried about protecting the phone.
The reason why is because anti virus protection only picks up virus's it is designed to pick up.
It is designed to pick up viruses that are a threat to computers.
I would imagine that computer anti virus software would worry about a different set of exploits than a linux based phone.
Making scanning with a computer completely useless.
yes, keylogger can survive hard reset. you have to reflash your phone completely to be sure. or don't provide your credit card number in any market
Hard reset and reflash official software. Everything will be like it just rolled out of the factory.
Pretty silly thing to ask really.
obviosuly if teh key logger was cooked into the rom then a master reset wont do sweet FA as it would simply be re-installed with the rom.
As mentioned your only way is flash the phone with a fresh rom.
When I putt he SD into my phone (currently running Paranoid KANG droid 2.32) I actually get nothing more than an occasional "SD has been removed" message. However, when I put the card into my old OG droid (running Cyanogenmod 7) i get the "unsupported file system" error. This has happened before, and I just had to wait it out before the SD recovered on its own. It is not doing this now. (yes I am an idiot for still using it despite my 32 gigs of internal storage). I have a feeling it is formatted as RAW due to a formatting issue, but I can't get anything else (pc or other devices) to recognize the card, other than my OG droid. So what I want to know, is if there is a way to force mount the card, or give a PC control over the sdcard path and force mount it some way through the PC (effectively turning my phone into an external card reader, because traditional methods don't work). I need a workaround for this, because there are dozens of pictures of my family, puppies, and friends on it that I don't want to lose.
Back up the card of you can, it sounds like it's dying on you. This phone really s3ms to kill cards, I've already gone through 2 32gig cards.
I had a 32GB Sandisk Ultra MicroSD card, and by chatting with Sandisk support, I am going to exchange my dead card for a working card. BTW, while you can, salvage the data you can, because it starts out like that, before becoming completely unusable.
I've went through two SanDisk. They are easy to work with, just get the ball rolling on the replacement.
Like the others said, get your data backed up as soon as you can.
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wow. so now not only am I not able to use my phone on tmobile's 4g, I also cannot have external storage because the phone destroys it? what a tremendously idiotic piece of crap.
does anyone know about any apps or pc software that would help me get my data back? I have the card reader but the pc wants to format the card and so does the phone. I need, like, mad rescue gear.
thanks!
Wow... You can't use it on someone else's 4g because it was designed for a different network.
Also I've not had any problems whatsoever with my external.
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CortoMaltese91 said:
wow. so now not only am I not able to use my phone on tmobile's 4g, I also cannot have external storage because the phone destroys it? what a tremendously idiotic piece of crap.
does anyone know about any apps or pc software that would help me get my data back? I have the card reader but the pc wants to format the card and so does the phone. I need, like, mad rescue gear.
thanks!
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Had 4 of these cards for a year now and not one hiccup. I'd say whatever is happening to them, its something you are doing to crap them, not the vendors. ALways backup your critical data, but if you treat these cards properly they will work and last as well as any.
No, you CAN use it on someone elses network, just not T-mobile as it doesn't do hdspa+ 1700, 1900... There's even a bounty out for that elsewhere on xda, to enable these bands, I believe it's currently at over $200.
And no, I'm not doing crap to the SD card. I've had it for over two years, used it on a different phone before that, never did anything different and it just died out of the blue. I'm not a noob, I would know if I had done something to it.
You would be pretty pissed off too if all your data was deleted, the phone you spent many many hours working to pay for did not work and when you ask for help someone blames you instead of helping. But I guess it's easier to blame than to help out right?
I get that part. However, don't get mad that it doesn't work fully for the network is wasn't designed for. That was my biggest part. I know there's a bounty. However, its been up for forever and nothing has come of it. I can't stand seeing people gripe about this phone because its not literally magic. Verizon's stuff is locked down, always has been, probably always will. Its a different radio/modem/antenna set than the tmo and at&t versions. It was meant to run on Verizon's network. Period.
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wow i recover my files
hi guys, i had same problem, but then i set this sandisk ultra to my nokia xpress music and there was everything,,, my arc s cant open it anymore but nokia opens... try to reset your sd s to others phone...
I am looking for any programs that are on the market for data recovery on smart phones. Ones like the ones you can get for when your home computers. I do alot of data recovery on PC's and I have yet to find a program that can handle cell phones. Alot claim they can, but they fall short and usually only pull up the data that is already on your phone. I have tried some of the undelete guides here and they don't do much.
Go to www.filehippo.com
Download recuva
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http://www.filehippo.com/download_recuva/
Enjoy
Its the best darn free data recovery out there.
I have used it on varius hard drives can be used for you phone to.
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Go to www.filehippo.com
Download recuva
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http://www.filehippo.com/download_recuva/
Enjoy
Its the best darn free data recovery out there.
I have used it on varius hard drives can be used for you phone to.
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It doesn't work at all. It will not see my phone at all. The same with many other programs that claim they are for smart phones. Some are only for SD cards. For SD cards, any program on the net works.
I don't know if anyone here has heard of this program, its called Encase. Its a forensic tool that the Police use for recoverying data from your HD's. I have this program, its worth over $5000 to buy. I am looking for something like that. It does cover Cell phones, but I don't want to shell out money to get it. I was hoping to find another program to use.
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I don't know if anyone here has heard of this program, its called Encase. Its a forensic tool that the Police use for recoverying data from your HD's. I have this program, its worth over $5000 to buy. I am looking for something like that. It does cover Cell phones, but I don't want to shell out money to get it. I was hoping to find another program to use.
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Wut?
You have 5k$ recovery program that works with phones but you want something thats free instead?
Idk but if I was in forensics or a cop id say your story doesnt add up.
No offense but now it sounds like you're trying to break into someones phone.
Just sayin.
Why would you need a free (and probably limited) file recovery program when you have a program used by leo's?
Oh and my bad I forgot to mention recuva does not work with your phone in mtp mode. Let your pc read it as a hard drive.
Afaik for android there is no specific file recovery exclusively for android phones.
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freakboy13 said:
Wut?
You have 5k$ recovery program that works with phones but you want something thats free instead?
Idk but if I was in forensics or a cop id say your story doesnt add up.
No offense but now it sounds like you're trying to break into someones phone.
Just sayin.
Why would you need a free (and probably limited) file recovery program when you have a program used by leo's?
Oh and my bad I forgot to mention recuva does not work with your phone in mtp mode. Let your pc read it as a hard drive.
Afaik for android there is no specific file recovery exclusively for android phones.
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ok, I may have posted it wrong. I have a copy of Encase that is worth $5g's to buy. I should have said I don't want to shell out money to buy the current versions that do Cell phones. Its worth $10g's Sorry. I am also a collector of data recovery software. Its a field that fascinates me. And a hobby of mine
Thanks for the info about the MTP mode, I will see if I can remove drivers and what not to get it to see it as a HD. I have played around and could seem to get that to work.
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I am looking for any programs that are on the market for data recovery on smart phones. Ones like the ones you can get for when your home computers. I do alot of data recovery on PC's and I have yet to find a program that can handle cell phones. Alot claim they can, but they fall short and usually only pull up the data that is already on your phone. I have tried some of the undelete guides here and they don't do much.
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you try using Xperia CWM Auto-installer.
I use Easy Data Recovery to recover any files on memory card and hard drive. And It is work for me and the most files is back.
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I use Easy Data Recovery to recover any files on memory card and hard drive. And It is work for me and the most files is back.
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I don't care about the SD card, any software will recover from an SD card. Its the internal memory that I need to recover.
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TheStrokerace said:
ok, I may have posted it wrong. I have a copy of Encase that is worth $5g's to buy. I should have said I don't want to shell out money to buy the current versions that do Cell phones. Its worth $10g's Sorry. I am also a collector of data recovery software. Its a field that fascinates me. And a hobby of mine
Thanks for the info about the MTP mode, I will see if I can remove drivers and what not to get it to see it as a HD. I have played around and could seem to get that to work.
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I'm guessing you are referring to the fact that you have EnCase 6, since EnCase 7 allows smartphone acquisition. However, all you really need is to image the device, and then you can bring in that image into EnCase 6. You could try using FTK imager to see if it will image the device.
If you really need open-source forensics, you can try using Helix, or Caine.
syung said:
I'm guessing you are referring to the fact that you have EnCase 6, since EnCase 7 allows smartphone acquisition. However, all you really need is to image the device, and then you can bring in that image into EnCase 6. You could try using FTK imager to see if it will image the device.
If you really need open-source forensics, you can try using Helix, or Caine.
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Thanks, I will look into those. I have Encase 4.2 and a poorly cracked version of 6. I did use the method to get an RAW image of the phone. I will look at Helix and Caine.
back up your hole phone data with a nandroid backup and move this to your pc
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backup pieces of android or your apps with titanium backup pro and move the files to a pc
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So I think I just got burned by the KitKat SD issue...And worst part is I knew about it, just totally spaced on it.
Got a T-Mobile Note 3, it's stock with no root...Mostly because I plan on trading it back in next month and don't want anything like a tripped Knox preventing that.
Anywho, got a new 32GB SD and stuck that in and fired up my file manager (Lidroid File) and went to move all my comics (15GB of CBR/CBZ) to it since it's filling up my main storage. And so I could just remove the card when I swap it out.
But after using the copy/paste functions the dir with all that is just gone...The operation completed in about a second so I knew something was up, and that's when the KitKat thing finally popped into my head.
Now I've done some research...I know about the way you can suck the internal SD over ADB to a VHD and then mount that and scan...But that requires Root, plus the right software. I'm traveling for business so don't really have that second part handled either (Locked down corp laptop only).
So my question is...Are there any reliable/respectable file recovery programs that work with my parameters? I was hoping there was an app that I could find that would just allow me to undelete the folder or something...I haven't done anything to the device since this happened, or at least nothing major (It's on and I've responded to a few emails, etc) so I hope there is still a chance?
Not looking to spend any major money, worst comes to worst I just re-download them all but makes my trip less entertaining Thanx in advance!!!
suitifiable said:
So I think I just got burned by the KitKat SD issue...And worst part is I knew about it, just totally spaced on it.
Got a T-Mobile Note 3, it's stock with no root...Mostly because I plan on trading it back in next month and don't want anything like a tripped Knox preventing that.
Anywho, got a new 32GB SD and stuck that in and fired up my file manager (Lidroid File) and went to move all my comics (15GB of CBR/CBZ) to it since it's filling up my main storage. And so I could just remove the card when I swap it out.
But after using the copy/paste functions the dir with all that is just gone...The operation completed in about a second so I knew something was up, and that's when the KitKat thing finally popped into my head.
Now I've done some research...I know about the way you can suck the internal SD over ADB to a VHD and then mount that and scan...But that requires Root, plus the right software. I'm traveling for business so don't really have that second part handled either (Locked down corp laptop only).
So my question is...Are there any reliable/respectable file recovery programs that work with my parameters? I was hoping there was an app that I could find that would just allow me to undelete the folder or something...I haven't done anything to the device since this happened, or at least nothing major (It's on and I've responded to a few emails, etc) so I hope there is still a chance?
Not looking to spend any major money, worst comes to worst I just re-download them all but makes my trip less entertaining Thanx in advance!!!
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LS.xD said:
You can flash the stock firmware via Odin.
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Yeah...That has no bearing on my question. But thanx!
suitifiable said:
Yeah...That has no bearing on my question. But thanx!
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Sry for the dumb answer. I suppose you will need root // adb at least.