APPEAL: xda for HTC - Android General

Guys,
HTC, the company that gave us the original xda series, the T-mo G1, Nexus One, Evo and other great phones is in dire financial straits.
They're on a downward spin for the last two quarters, and while they might not be in danger yet, analysts reckon that soon, they will.
HTC devices have always had the best build quality and better than normal specs, and as a company, I hold a lot of regard for them, based on my experiences with the HTC Touch, the Nexus One and the Sensation.
I hope this thread won't get locked/deleted by a mod. I don't know if there are rules prohibiting such threads as mine, but I'm just trying to grt my opinion out there.
This promotional video by HTC reminded me of all I love about them:
http://youtu.be/fWDHYqBSjQg
HTC continues to produce some of the best devices on the market, with the Droid DNA/HTC DLX being the latest of those.
I request any xda member/developer looking to buy a new device to consider buying HTC.
More information on HTC's financial woes:
http://bgr.com/2012/11/06/htc-earnings-analysis-october-2012/
http://bgr.com/2012/11/08/smartphone-market-share-q3-2012/
http://bgr.com/2012/08/07/htc-q3-2012-earnings-guidance-market-cap/

No. Until they put bigger batteries and/ or removable batteries on their phones (and get rid of Sense) , I'll always look away. Its time to move on.
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Sensation is my last HTC device unless HTC improve their relations with developers, they have started encrypting RUU now which mean no ports, no developments for older phones unless this can be cracked. Also HTC update policy stinks...
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Jonny said:
Sensation is my last HTC device unless HTC improve their relations with developers, they have started encrypting RUU now which mean no ports, no developments for older phones unless this can be cracked. Also HTC update policy stinks...
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Yeah, I heard about the encryption.
You'd think a company that's in dire straits would do all it could to improve relations with devs...
Like it did in it's heyday in 2011...
Though Droid DNA development seems to be off to a nice start...
They've already leaked a few exploits, and all the devs stuck on Verizon are migrating from the Incredible to the DNA...
Quite a few sponsored-ish feeling reviews etc on that board...
So maybe they are working to correct their ways... only time can tell.

tatperson said:
No. Until they put bigger batteries and/ or removable batteries on their phones (and get rid of Sense) , I'll always look away. Its time to move on.
Sent from that Cius.
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Totally agree with you about the batteries bit...
And the Sense bit too... Sense makes no sense, but nobody matches HTC build quality, and we can always flash an alternative like CM, AOKP or PA to be Sense-free...

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How many of you developers will be getting HTC's next flagship (possible HTC Ville)?

My myTouch 4G is falling apart, development is dry and I need a new phone.. I got lucky once by buying a device that once had a ****load of development going on but it's slowed down and dried up so much it's just meh.. I wanna go to another device now, and with MWC right around the corner it's a perfect time, but I'll only want to buy the HTC Ville if people are actually buying it. Is anyone, developer or not, buying HTC's next flagship?
If not... I may just pick up a Sensation
The only thing that would make me buy another phone is if this one brakes and I'm out of warranty.
Sensation had been a great phone but at the same time lots of hardware issues, so it hardware issues will have to annoy me pretty bad to jump ship.
I have been through about 6 Sensations because of dust under screen, dead pixels and bad build quality causing vibration, so if when my warranty runs out which is in April btw, my replacement phone is not up to my standards I'm changing to something else but first I'm going to read reviews and not be early adopter.
My replacement Sensation should be sitting at home and hopefully will be a good one.
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My next phone will also be HTC. I just love the Sensation, enjoy evey minute of it and having no problem at all(Hardware or Software)
The next flagship will probably be the Edge, a quad-core unit, unlike the Ville which will be an advanced version of the Sensation with a Dual Core processor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZjGKNaQFM&feature=related
Just buy Sensation....HTC Ville is just like Sensation 4.3 qhd display so it easier for dev
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epsix said:
Just buy Sensation....HTC Ville is just like Sensation 4.3 qhd display so it easier for dev
You can get Sensation on craiglist for cheap.
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What will be your next phone?

Hey guys,
I was just wondering what kind of phone you'll get after the Sensation (XE).
I think I will go a HTC Endeavour, because of the nice HD-screen, big intern memory and it has a good SoC (quad-core Krait will beat this so that's why I find this SoC just 'good').
I'd like to hear yours!
I'd probably upgrade to that as well. But I'll wait till I get tired of this one, after all ICS isn't officially implemented for us yet.
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I will see what will come out in MWC but I think I won't buy another phone till the end of 2012
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I've only just picked up the sensation xe and have been busy trying out all the different roms, so i'm gona be keeping this phone for a good while yet, though the endeavour does sound real nice.
Probably HTC One X (Codename: Endeavour or Razor)... 4core soc tegra3
When I bought the Sensation 4G back in Aug. I told myself that I would keep it for at least 18 months. With a new car to play with and spend my extra money on, it looks like I will keep that promise to myself.
All the new and upcoming phones don't seem that great or that much better than the sensation. Also, they are all so big. The size of the sensation is the biggest that I can withstand. The galaxy s 2 is about the same size but I prefer the qhd screen on my sensation.
Until they make a phone with minimal bezel, on screen buttons, and same size of the sensation, I will be keeping my sensation.
Hehe, drooling over the HTC Zeta concept device for a while now. Damn thats a sexy design!
Nokia 3310 period. Nothing less nothing more!
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creator2456 said:
When I bought the Sensation 4G back in Aug. I told myself that I would keep it for at least 18 months. With a new car to play with and spend my extra money on, it looks like I will keep that promise to myself.
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yep, sensation already a highend device anyway
I have my Sensation since December, i'm pretty sure it will last till the end of 2012! When i bought it I didn't look in here and i retain myself lucky with all this DEV stuff going on.. So next time i'll buy a phone, apart from tech specs, i'll take a look at the forums here since i won't get a phone unable to be unlocked and customized as the Sensation!
By the way, the Endeavour looks damn good with that quad-core
To me, the Sensation with Sense 3.0 and 2.3.4 and the Sensation with AOSP Android 4.0 are two different phones. I flashed Virtuous Inquisition beta1 last night and as far as I'm concerned, I got a brand new Sensation since then.
Personally I've had enough with dust under the screen (this is my 4th HTC phone with this issue) and HTC's leisurely attitude towards releasing updates--not to mention forcing Sense on us. I had made peace with holding out for HTC to release their ICS update (so the devs could put together a complete AOSP rom), but then I noticed the dust after just 3 HOURS of carrying it in my pants pocket. Seems minor, but it was the last straw for me.
I finally broke down and bought a Galaxy Nexus from Expansys. So long HTC.
daewond3r said:
Personally I've had enough with dust under the screen (this is my 4th HTC phone with this issue) and HTC's leisurely attitude towards releasing updates--not to mention forcing Sense on us. I had made peace with holding out for HTC to release their ICS update (so the devs could put together a complete AOSP rom), but then I noticed the dust after just 3 HOURS of carrying it in my pants pocket. Seems minor, but it was the last straw for me.
I finally broke down and bought a Galaxy Nexus from Expansys. So long HTC.
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HTC can't force you to do anything.
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HTC can't force you to do anything.
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Why would you bold my comment and then misinterpret what I wrote to make a pointless reply? You would think that in the process of bolding a phrase you'd actually read it.
deletedeletedelete
Keeping the S4G for now, since it rocks with ICS 4.0.3 cooked roms! And waiting on Official ICS soon...
creator2456 said:
When I bought the Sensation 4G back in Aug. I told myself that I would keep it for at least 18 months. With a new car to play with and spend my extra money on, it looks like I will keep that promise to myself.
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Same here. (although I am a phone wh&$e!, lol) but the new car also, took the funds for the phone.
as for the topic, i may get a quad core phone from HTC if its not like the sensation that heats
All I know is I ain't buying something which won't fit in my pocket or run Cyanogenmod.
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[Q] How are people liking HTC nowadays?

My question is simply: do people using an HTC phone enjoy all that it has to offer or do you like other phones like samsung or lg more?
There's alot of HTC users here...so don't kill me of what I think about HTC ... I have HTC but don't like the soft ware on them, some phones feel kinda cheap...my first and last HTC phone, I would buy again if they take away sense roms, HTC comes out with phones like every 5 min...or is it 6? I like LG and Samsung better
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Well I agreed with Android311 People nowadays are moving from HTC to Samsung
Itz because their failures .They Are looking on Quick profits . So they Launched Lot of devices in a one quarter. And there arn't any proper Flagship (First i thought their flagship device is Sensation And then they released Sensation XE and Sensation XL)
And Also HTC arn't working on Updating process of their old devices (Such As DHD)
I had an HTC Incredible until I changed to a Droid 3. I never regret it, I had nothing against it, but my Droid 3 seems higher quality. Since I always change to CM, software didn't make a difference.
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I have motorola atrix for a year now and very satisfied with it. I have also used HTC and samsung phones, Samsung devices are much better than HTC.
Yes are right, quick profits, when I see a company making or trying to make quick profits they are setting themselves up for failure all they want is money asap, companys like LG or Samsung make phones with quality, sure they may not be making money as fast as htc but they have long term customers who are loyal to the brand wich is the key to a bussiness....
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I personally enjoy HTC phones.
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I've got a EVO 4G, I think it's a pretty good phone. Too much plastic on it though.
i agree with most people here HTC software is made just to last until their next phone comes out. their phones look nice but quickly begin to lag and freeze i prefer LG ever since i used an LG G2X
HTC spend time making and designing their phones to make sure their users have a good experience, where as Samsung pop one out every day. Thats my opinion.
Since I got my first HTC (touch dual) i felt very impressed, but the last HTC i purchased, the HD MINI(photon) was pretty limited by the WM6.5 version, which had no apps in comparison to the Android market.
Then HTC started to sell phones with androidSO and must say they're pretty impressive(not like the GalaxySII).
MrLadoodle said:
HTC spend time making and designing their phones to make sure their users have a good experience, where as Samsung pop one out every day. Thats my opinion.
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I respect your opinion, its backwards, HTC pops one out everyday and Samsung spends time making and desinging there phones, Samsung does have a lot of phones, but Samsung has better quality and alot more reliable
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In terms of user interface, HTC is the best while in terms of hardware performance Samsung is better.
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Im using a HTC phone, but i think samsung phones are much better in term of quality and stability.
But HTC is a lot more creative compared to samsung.. Sense is like the best invented UI ever...
I hope that HTC can improve on their quality and stability..
Samsung phones are best. HTC phones are nowhere near.
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The HTC feels like a much better phone, unlike the Samsungs that can feel a bit plastic.
Sense is a difficult topic, at the sacrifice of performance for what HTC view as a better interface, its very subjective. It also means slower updates and they still launch way too many devices.
Htc phones are very good phones indeed.To me their type of phones is like targeted to higher upper people kind type.While Samsung even though its still using plastic still capture the simplistic shape and figure of a phone.

[Q] How popular is/was the Sensation ? Alternatives ?

As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
HTC Sensation ? Any thoughts on the popularity of this or similar HTCs ?
I'm thinking I should get a recent HTC phone with a Broadcom FM/combo chip.
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When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
Thoughts ? Thanks !
mikereidis said:
As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
Thoughts ? Thanks !
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Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.
The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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malybru said:
Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.
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Thanks. I try to estimate popularity by numbers of forum posts or views.
"Plain" Sensation seems pretty good, but Evo 3D seems even higher, especially for the Sprint CDMA version.
Always seems to be this issue of variants, CDMA/GSM and XE/XL etc. which can make for a whole different phone development wise.
tessut said:
The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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Germany is my best market, per capita.
But unfortunately my "post count" check on the forums isn't anywhere near comparable.
Of course it came out later (right?) but I'm sure total numbers are still much higher.
And I prefer getting older phones that are cheaper on EBay.
Android "fragmentation" affects me greatly, due to the low level hardware specific requirements. So I have 15 different devices in my "test fleet" now. And I'm trying to be very picky when it comes to additions, as it's difficult to manage so many.

No update

HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates. Rip the one s. Personally I think its shocking that a one year old phone is left out in the cold. And I certainly won't be buying a HFC phone again.
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Htc are ****ing stupid!!! The galaxy s2 is still getting updates!! I predict they will go bankrupt within the next year. If they do no one will miss them they need to get their **** together.
Given the lack of support since day 1 I am not really surprised. Failing MAO coating, helicoptering, battery drain.... And now only 6 months of software support. And still they wonder why customers are leaving?
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nozzla said:
HTC have confirmed that the one s will receive no further updates.
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Source? A few weeks ago they said something different.
Anyway. After the helicoptering disaster I already knew that my next smartphone would not be made by HTC.
There is a feature story on Engadget "We can confirm that the HTC One S will not receive further Android OS updates and will remain on the current version of Android and HTC Sense. We realize this news will be met with disappointment by some, but our customers should feel confident that we have designed the HTC One S to be optimized with our amazing camera and audio experiences." This was a press statement released by HTC.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
Here u go guys
Rip one s
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I doesn't stop to function.
I just got this phone a little over a week ago and it's already killed off like it didn't exist. I was really rooting for HTC but this is just downright f***ed up. Here, I thought HTC learned a lesson and was actually going to change their ways but i guess not
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
jersey_609 said:
Sad to see them going this way but that's why I stopped buying HTC phones if Samsung can update the galaxy s2 but HTC can't update their phone it doesn't instill a lot of trust in them for future phones
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I agree. I mean when a two year old Samsung Galaxy S II has a newer version of a one year old HTC One S, it really shows you how much they care about their customers and also, they clearly said earlier in the year that they would update the One S, One X, X+, and Butterfly to 4.2.
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but the Jelly Bean update sucks as hell
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They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
Well we all saw this coming, my next phone won't be a HTC for sure, even tho I've been a HTC fanboy since the nexus one.
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jersey_609 said:
They always say that they will upgrade existing phones but they ether wait to long to do it or they then say they can't. I loved my HTC phones and that's all I use to buy but, after my sensation I had to jump ship. build quality and lack of up grades made me go to Samsung even though I hate the plastic phones they make
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Why didn't you take a Sony then?
I will think twice when I buy my next phone.. dammit, HTC what are you doing!
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My nexus one was the reason I loved HTC's build quality: that phone is still alive after being run over by a car!
It sure is crappy to hear HTC lie about bringing updates, but it still is only one source, while the news of sense 5 coming to the HOS was reiterated quite a few times...
I just hope it's a lie 'cause it's real bad marketing for HTC!!
We started with 4.0 and are now left with 4.1, will the HTC One ever get 4.3?
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1 year support yeah! die htc die!
I can imagine this is happening because the HTC One Mini is being released soon and will be replacing the One S as a mid range phone.
I've had a few HTC phones and been quite happy with them, but this is unacceptable, I will not be supporting HTC anymore. I feel bad I recommended the HTC One to so many people, going to have to tell anyone else who asks to go for the GS4 or Nexus 4 I guess.
I only use custom roms so this isn't really as big of a deal for me as I will probably always be able to get something decent ported, but the principal of them doing this really posses me off. If I didn't want to root my phone I would be kissed off at the lack of support.
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Same thoughts here guys. The One S was superior or equal to the One X and isn't supported anymore after one year. And its updates where delayed from the beginning...
The only reason to introduce plain Android for the One is to cut its sense lifecycle short to at least one year. They think that any fanboy out there will reinvestigate into the latest HTC phone every year and then sell it for the latest model and if you want to keep it longer, you could switch to it's Google play edition. No need to update sense anymore. Let's go for the next model. Imho this thinking made some leading people leave HTC the last months.
As I never was a real lover of sense I started using it with this phone and I have to admit, at least I even started liking it. It turned out to be pretty practical in one way or another.
So I'll keep it for a few more months, just to see what Moto or Sony will come up with in the near future. Samsung never was and is an alternative due to it's el cheapo design. Also that S4 outdoor variant looks pretty good in my eyes.
R.I.P. my beloved One S and f**k you HTC.

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