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Thinking about rooting my phone but I'm not sure if I should.
I bought my phone outside the US, my service provider is in Asia (Taiwan).
My phone is HTC Sensation Z710e.
I want to root because:
- I want to have access to the US Market, not my current countries; I want to access certain apps that aren't available outside the US.
- I want to upgrade to stock ICS when releases are more stable.
- I want to customize the look of my phone with things like CM or MIUI.
- I want to improve battery life (if possible).
I'm scared to root because:
- I don't understand ANY of the "rooting vocabulary" like s-off, kernel, rom, clockwork, radios, etc. Even the "noob" guides confuse me
- I don't want to ruin my phone.
- Because I'm in a different country I'm scared that I won't have service after rooting.
Right now my only experience with Android is using different launchers. I've tried around 10 but prefer GoLauncher because of the themes and widgets. I use my phone a lot and want more out of it. I love ICS! Not in love with Sense anymore.
What do you think I should do? Root or no.
Hey,
was not everyone in the beginning a noob?
To improve the battery life, you could underclock and undervolt the Cpu.
But this is just possible with another Kernel, like Faux oder Bricked.
S-off -> security off, the security off option allows you to write to the NAND,
a flash memory where the main parts of your phone are saved.
Kernel -> The Base Part of a Rom, includes the Drivers and so on.
Rom -> Like a Windows Version, there are different Roms like different Windows
Versions. A Rom is the whole Android on your phone.
Clockwork recovery -> the Recovery System you can install after Rooting, lets you install you own Roms, Updates etc. With another recovery than the Stock, you cant install OTA Updates, but you can update the same with a .zip file with the clockwork recovery.
Radio.... dont know exactly, something that has to be there for communicating
with the network etc.
So, I would just Root, if you want to use another Rom. There arent as much ways of doing things with rooted phones as with another Rom.
the easy answer would have been yes lol
Hi guy's,
I'm glad you've posted this up as I'm in the same boat. I want to try and get more out of my phone as I have done with my PC. Some of the basic terminology isn't explained in laymans terms on here though (not that I could find anyway!) So thanks for clearing up those bits of information.
As for Rooting your phone. I used the How-To thread in this section and did it pretty easily. Only had a few issues but the guides help you through really well.
I'm now looking at a phone that's rooted, clockworked, S-Off and SuperCID'd but I haven't unlocked it yet.
I'm going to spend the next few days looking through the various threads on here to find out whether there is one preferred ROM that will get my phone running faster and smoother.
Hope you manage to get yours done as easily as I did. It's always worth having a play with these things... Especially if you back it all up so that if it does go wrong, you can just reset it like nothing ever happened.
I say, root! The costum roms from mike are excellent, better battery life etc..
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio met Tapatalk
It's easy to do, there's a lot of topics about it. Check noobsproof guide in Sensation Android Development. When you'll aknowledge basics you'll love huge range possibilities, roms, mods etc. And your Sensation will love u too
Thanks for the help. I might wait until CM9 releases or a perfect stock ICS ROM comes out.
So I will root, just waiting for those things.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
You can root without getting a new ROM, which is what I recently did. It lets you do things like run setCPU to underclock (and get huge improvement on battery life), use Titanium Backup to remove pre-installed apps, etc.
Just follow steps 1, 2 and 3 on the guide (S-off, install Recovery, Root- takes awhile, but most of the time goes to waiting for the phone to do the work).
good question! im also about to ask this. 1 more question is is the CM 7 alpha for sensation are stable to use?? Planning to try root n put CM. =)
Is their a particular ROM that most people use? I'd like to get a little better battery life and make my Sensation run a bit quicker if possible.
Also, Is their anything around that can make your GPS more accurate and speed up data rates?
The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
maverick0729 said:
The ARHD roms seem to be quite popular including the newest ICS build. Wouldn't hurt to go around and test out a few others to see if they fit your need.
And yes, there are some current hotfixes out there if you are having trouble with your GPS.
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Thanks Maverick. I'm not so much having issues with my GPS as wanting to boost it a little.
I use an app for recording my time on race tracks. It records things like the g-forces and the lap times as well as video and audio. The built in GPS is "okay" but I've heard a lot of people us an external GPS as it gives better data times ie. the built-in GPS = 5Hz compared to external GPS = 10Hz. I wondered if their would be some way of boosting the built in one so I don't need three things plugged into the car at once!
Are the ROMs as easy to flash and "un-flash" as the normal big updates I used to do every now and again on my HD2 etc?
Yeah, the Roms are pretty easy to install and remove if you don't like they way they work. As far as boosting the overall performance of the internal GPS.. I don't think there is any way to overclock that part of it. I could be wrong though.
Sounds good. I'll try and unlock it tomorrow and then try and install a rom or two. Looks like I'm going to try out the ARHD Rom first, and have a look at an overclock
I'll have a look around to see if theirs much that can be done to or with the built in GPS. It would be andy to get a bit better performance from it but I guess I can live with it until the next big thing comes along and takes my fancy
Hey,
I've haven't been on this forum for long.
I think you should definitively root. It takes almost no time at all to go through the noob guide and then in a couple of hours, if you really want to know about things like S-OFF, kernels, radios etc. you can check out the documentation online.
I've owned a HTC Desire before and I rooted that as well and flashed LeeDroid's custom ROM for the Desire. Now a friend is using the phone and she's most happy with it. It's a lot faster than the stock ROM for the Desire.
Right now I'm playing with an HTC Sesation. I've also been reticent on rooting it. The guide on the forum seemed a bit complicated and I didn't have the patience to go through every step, but it turned out to be a lot faster than I thought. The tool from Revolutionary disables the security and installs the bootloader and recovery with just one click. Than you would just flash any custom ROM, as they are all rooted and there you go.
what are the best roms for battery life?
best battery
dmcb123 said:
what are the best roms for battery life?
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First off: with Sense or without Sense does make a noticable difference because launchers and widgets differ a lot in battery usage.
With Sense:
In my case the unexpected winner of that comparison still is ARHD 5.0.2 with the new firmware flashed. It out-lives any other Sensation ROM by more than 40%.
Without Sense:
The differences were minimal.
If you don't want the risks of ICS which is still beta and comes with problems for many, MIUI.us was second best with the appropriate kernel. Since it's been more than two weeks since I tested MIUI and that one isn't stable either, I'm unwilling to advise you. You should ask in the thread.
In all of my comparisons I used JuiceDefender.
For battery life comparison you need to stick with a ROM for more than 24h and a few reboots.
I've tried LeeDroid, SensEay, Virtuous, all 3 ARHD, HyperSensation CM7, Miui.us, InsertCOIN.
hope this helps
So just putting the ARHD ROM on will also give me better battery life?
The main thing that worries me with ROM flashing is stability. I can't be without my phone for a day if I flash it then have problems while i'm at work. Are most of these roms etc stable when they are released? Is it mainly the overclocking and hardware mods that make it unstable?
Thanks for answering my questions... as you can see I'm a total N00B but you guys are helping me out loads and making me more confident to do it all
I think you should try Eleganica ROM for battery life you will like it for sure!! Give it a shot!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using xda premium
Back again. This is so far what the battery life is giving me using Elegancia.ROM um ICS 4.0.1.
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I'm looking for a good custom Rom for my htc sensation . I have root access via revolutionary and can flash using clockworkmod recovery.
I tried Revolution HD but only got error messages.
I ned a custom rom that will
1st be smooth and stable with all features working
2nd Improve battery life
3rd Improve overall performance
I Don't need to have a rom with Sense, but would like to keep the ability to see new messages on the lock screen. None of the other lock screen features are that important to me . I also like having the ability to link contacts to facebook contacts. These are the only sense features I need to keep so if they are available on a non sense rom I'd be open to try it.
All suggestions are helpful and welcome.
Thank you
It is very subjective and all ROMs will meet what you ask for compared to stock...
really you need to do your research..all ROMs are here in each thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1112
I use ARHD and am very happy with it but its up to you...Gingerbread...beta ICS...custom.
I suggest try a few - once you have changed a few times process becomes painless. Also titanium backup (for apps only) helps - but keep a nandroid backup of your current rooted ROM so u can always get back to where you are now.
Really its research research on XDA and trail an error....
I have tried all these Roms on XDA for the sensation that have been released in the last 4 or 5 months.
I have to say the Energy Rom sounds like what your looking for. NRGZ28 is not running ICS on his latest release, I believe because there's to many issues
NRGZ28's Energy is always my main Rom because of the stability.
detroit2hi said:
I have tried all these Roms on XDA for the sensation that have been released in the last 4 or 5 months.
I have to say the Energy Rom sounds like what your looking for. NRGZ28 is not running ICS on his latest release, I believe because there's to many issues
NRGZ28's Energy is always my main Rom because of the stability.
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Thanks for this. My research has led me to energy as well. Downloading now. will let you know how it goes...
Had my sensation xe for a couple of wks now and had tried out a few roms, so far I like ELEGANCIA GB rom the best, it's stable, everything is working, and their skins team is amazing, looks darn good. Battery life is dependent on too many factors (usage, radio, kernels, etc).
rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360264
skins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388013
Now I'm confused about which radio firmware to use. I have a z710 model which works with att 3 and 4 g bands while remaining on an unlimited non smartphone plan. Would changing radio firmware effect this in any way? Since each rom comes with a radio wouldn't this be a determining factor?
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Now I'm confused about which radio firmware to use. I have a z710 model which works with att 3 and 4 g bands while remaining on an unlimited non smartphone plan. Would changing radio firmware effect this in any way? Since each rom comes with a radio wouldn't this be a determining factor?
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Your radio will just adjust how well you communicate with the towers. It is just the hardware broadcasting interface as well as the RILs (Radio Interface Layer) which tells your phone how to communicate from the hardware to the radio.
So it will not affect your plan at all.
I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
all rom's on xda are cool!¨
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense
cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?
When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
8thsiner said:
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA
Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???
Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Hello,
currently i'm experimenting with custom roms, and i started thinking about stock 2.3.5 with sense 3.0.
Are there any NO NO reasons why not to use it ? (Such as vulnerability etc).
I have feeling that battery on 2.3.5 was amazing, camera was better than on ics etc..
No, none whatsoever
"It is better to have a permanent income than to be fascinating."
- Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
I had overall better feeling of my phone while using 2.3.5.
It's 50/50 because there are also improvements such as GPS reception, better gmail app etc.
I have the same feeling as you, but the curiosity to experiment new things, makes wanna try another roms leading to always the same conclusion.
Despite all the hard work and improvements in other roms, 2.3.5 is the stable, fast and the only rom that can give confidence for a daily use, but thats my opinion of course
The only thing that i've felt is better in new custom roms is the wifi recepcion, and even in that, it's not a very major big improvement, the wifi in this phone was never very good.
Unfortunatelly there are some apps (such as Chrome) that won't work with 2.3.5. I need chrome, because it's only browser in which i can open AIS (academic information system).
Other browsers fail.
Was thinking about buying new HTC one. But this "support" that HTC cancelled after 2.3.5 for our devices tells me NO NO, don't buy HTC again.
So by now i'm sticking with ICS :/
Again, i agree with you. I love this phone but always get the feeling that HTC don't really care about costumers.
Before HTC i was a very huge fan of the 'Finland guys', devices never failed on me (but doesn't mean they're perfect of course) and now i know for sure what phone i'll buy next and it's not going to be an android (again, nothing against android itself, it's an amazing OS) but i'm not an fan of Samsung and HTC have disapointed me.
In my opinion they don't explore the full capacity of they're devices, and when they forget the devices, they are forgeting the people that have bought it.
remusator said:
But this "support" that HTC cancelled after 2.3.5 for our devices tells me NO NO, don't buy HTC again.
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For me the main reason to install the custom ROM was the stock ROM: I have neither Facebook nor Twitter accounts, so having to scroll half the screen to skip the "social" fields of the contact info to finally reach the actual contact data was an overkill for me. At the same time, I could use HTCDev to change ROM with zero chance of bricking the phone. Sure, HTC could care more about their customers, but we have already got IMHO more then others.
Sent from my Desire S using xda app-developers app
What did you install ?
Btw, you can remove system (read un-unistallable) apps such as facebook, twitter via Titanium Backup. But you need root.
Despite i'm defending 2.3.5 i am also on ics, ICE DS v8.0 Rom.
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What did you install ?
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CM 7.2, then beta CM9 and finally CM10.1. I really like CM.
remusator said:
Btw, you can remove system (read un-unistallable) apps such as facebook, twitter via Titanium Backup. But you need root.
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I didn't know. Still, I needed newer Google Talk.
And FWIW HTCDev-Unlock still is wonderful way to root your device without doing some stuff you either don't fully understand or feel not very comfortable with. That is: I stick with HTC just because of HTCDev. I don't really mean that this is the reason for everybody to switch to HTC devices, but this POV is pretty much reasonable IMHO.
CM 10.1 - you mean flinny's builds ?
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CM 10.1 - you mean flinny's builds ?
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Exactly. Though it may change soon, as I have an uncommon problem with them.
Looking for a stable daily driver for my friend whom I am giving my phone to, now that I have a nexus 5 almost here.
She needs something stable. This phone has ran Cyanogen for a while and I just wouldnt feel comfortable giving it to her with the finicky data, odd call problems from time to time, etc.
So, in terms of stability over features, which would you recommend?
SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
Envoyé de mon HTC One S en utilisant Tapatalk
Maximus.
The "better picture quality" and "gif recording" can be flashed using pirlano and TheEndHK's camera mod. Better sound quality produced by V4A is also downloadable. The only thing i wanted more from maximus are tweaks, though we can use xposed framework and sense 5 toolbox module.
But you can never go wrong with both source and maximus since both of them uses the same updated firmware..
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SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
Envoyé de mon HTC One S en utilisant Tapatalk
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Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US
phin586 said:
Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US
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It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.
tivofool said:
It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.
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Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.
phin586 said:
Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.
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If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.
wmdunn said:
If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.
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As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..
phin586 said:
As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..
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I wasn't talking about the current CM 10.2 updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.
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I wasn't talking about the current CM updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.
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Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.
phin586 said:
Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.
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Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.
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Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
phin586 said:
Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.
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Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.
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Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S
phin586 said:
Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S
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That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!
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That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!
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I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...
phin586 said:
I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...
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Good choice ... looks like a great phone. Before my One S, I carried a Nexus device. I really prefer stock Android. I considered the Nexus 5, but it just doesn't fit my hands ... hence the Moto X. Anyway ... have fun with your new phone!
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.
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Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.
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Appreciate you going into all the detail, but these issues are exactly what many people are trying to avoid with their One S. That is why we were talking about what our better halves were not willing to tolerate.
Same as @TheEndHK, i don't have those issues as well, in fact the in call audio volume on mine is much louder than when i was on viper. The 1.20 radio brought me much stronger wifi signal and stability on mobile data, though some places i have full network coverage became weaker but not that much. Not all of us experienced those issues, and you won't know that if you will or will not experience it either if you haven't tried it yourself. :thumbup: