Samsung's last kick in the pants - T-Mobile Sidekick 4G

Samsung's last kick in the pants - T-Mobile Sidekick 4G

I just stumbled across something amusing. While wandering around the Samsung website looking at the upcoming Galaxy S Relay 4G, I saw a link offering to buy my old phone. So out of curiosity I clicked it. It asked what model of phone I had, if it was functional, if there had ever been any liquid damage, and if the screen was in mint condition. I filled it out truthfully. Sidekick 4G, works perfect, no spills, and a screen which has a light blemish. Then I clicked get quote.
$5.
FIVE DOLLARS!
Good god, if that isn't an insult! "Hey, thanks for buying this phone that we rushed out and then completely failed to support in any way. Here's a fiver! You can put it toward buying one of our new phones!"
Out of curiosity I tried again, this time selecting that the screen was in perfect condition. Even that was only enough to raise the offer to $30. I could sell the box it came in on ebay for that much!
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Jax184 said:
I just stumbled across something amusing. While wandering around the Samsung website looking at the upcoming Galaxy S Relay 4G, I saw a link offering to buy my old phone. So out of curiosity I clicked it. It asked what model of phone I had, if it was functional, if there had ever been any liquid damage, and if the screen was in mint condition. I filled it out truthfully. Sidekick 4G, works perfect, no spills, and a screen which has a light blemish. Then I clicked get quote.
$5.
FIVE DOLLARS!
Good god, if that isn't an insult! "Hey, thanks for buying this phone that we rushed out and then completely failed to support in any way. Here's a fiver! You can put it toward buying one of our new phones!"
Out of curiosity I tried again, this time selecting that the screen was in perfect condition. Even that was only enough to raise the offer to $30. I could sell the box it came in on ebay for that much!
Sigh...
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LMAO! Why the hell would they want a phone that's discontinued anyways?

5$?WTF
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No SD Card slot? Samsung IS really starting to let Apple's suing get to them..
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s-relay-4g/621642-sure-lonely-here.html

What are you talking about? It's got an SD slot.

Jax184 said:
What are you talking about? It's got an SD slot.
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Edit : Lol I misread, you supposedly can't install apps to the SDCard. (Not too worried about that though considering any custom ROM will bypass it.

TheLastSidekick said:
Edit : Lol I misread, you supposedly can't install apps to the SDCard. (Not too worried about that though considering any custom ROM will bypass it.
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Well, and the fact that after we go mtd, we can move the /data partition to the external sdcard, allowing more apps to be installed.
(hence: no reason for apps2sd)

So... who pays to ship it?
"Thanks for sending us your phone, here's part of your shipping cost back. Cheers and come again!"
Lolz.
Samsung really did not understand that the "Sidekick" was actually an entire concept and not just a smartphone with a keyboard...
Sent from my Sidekick using xda app-developers app [also, FU Samsung!]

Unfortunately, the blame for that might well fall on T-Mobile as much as Samsung. This phone is exclusive to T-Mobile and wouldn't have been released without T-Mobile's approval.
SidekickColor said:
So... who pays to ship it?
"Thanks for sending us your phone, here's part of your shipping cost back. Cheers and come again!"
Lolz.
Samsung really did not understand that the "Sidekick" was actually an entire concept and not just a smartphone with a keyboard...
Sent from my Sidekick using xda app-developers app [also, FU Samsung!]
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Sad but true :/
I wonder if Samsung may have promised more support/fixes than they provided... It certainly appears that the skinning and "software-fitting" was rushed.
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It's difficult to say. There were a number of non-working builds posted here that were presumably test builds by Samsung that never got pushed out by T-Mobile. The KJ2 firmware was probably one of the last they made. I don't think anything newer was posted after that one. So, Samsung was working on the phone, but it doesn't seem like they were able to get one that met T-Mobile's standards until the KJ2 version. At that point, T-Mobile probably was satisfied and didn't feel like continuing to push more updates to the device. That's just a guess. While KJ2 was an improvement over the 2 previously released firmware versions, it still leaves much to be desired. I wonder if there were any experimental/pre-release GB builds made for the device.
SidekickColor said:
Sad but true :/
I wonder if Samsung may have promised more support/fixes than they provided... It certainly appears that the skinning and "software-fitting" was rushed.
Sent from my Sidekick using xda app-developers app [also, where's my L, Samsung?]
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Hehe it appears that samsung's support (or lack thereof) is just as crappy with their other devices. Had to get bull****ted around in a support session last bight concerning a (not so) smart tv. They blame the economy for ****ty workmanship, i blame the education system
Sent from my ass

Maybe we should blame the fact that people with a degree in X are seen as "better suited" than people who actually understand X. Also, common sense. lol
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I work for a T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico and the Sidekick 4G actually was hot here at first. Then came the bugs and lack of interest by Sammy and T-Mobile.
I never saw a phone get swept under the rug so quickly.....sigh.

RicAndroid said:
I work for a T-Mobile call center here in Puerto Rico and the Sidekick 4G actually was hot here at first. Then came the bugs and lack of interest by Sammy and T-Mobile.
I never saw a phone get swept under the rug so quickly.....sigh.
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Hehe, so the phone is a "bug". lol
Well, I'm hoping to get this thing on ICS here very soon.

bhundven said:
Hehe, so the phone is a "bug". lol
Well, I'm hoping to get this thing on ICS here very soon.
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Hahaha! Yeah, I've read your progress and it's very exciting to finally be on the path toward ICS. I always had a feeling that this phone and the SGS4G were very similar. I also noticed how similar this is to the Samsung Nexus S given that they both use the Samsung Hummingbird Cortex A8.

RicAndroid said:
Hahaha! Yeah, I've read your progress and it's very exciting to finally be on the path toward ICS. I always had a feeling that this phone and the SGS4G were very similar. I also noticed how similar this is to the Samsung Nexus S given that they both use the Samsung Hummingbird Cortex A8.
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Well, just the processor is not the big coincidence. Even bigger, is take a look at all the "Supported" devices in the aries series:
GT-i9000, Captivate, Vibrant, Fascinate, etc...
They all have a PoP (Package-on-Package) configuration with a 512M OneNand Flash.
Now look at Epic4G (not touch), SGS4G (SGH-T959V and SGH-T959W), and SK4G. They all have a 1G Flex-OneNand Flash, in a similar PoP configuration. These are second generation SGS devices.
All of these phones have the Samsung Hummingbird Cortex-A8 core (aka: s5pc110, Exynos 3110, whatever they are calling it this week).
All of these devices also have 1G of Ram in the PoP config.
All if not almost all of these devices use Atmel mxt224 touchscreen sensors (yes, sk4g does too).
All if not almost all of these devices use a TL2796 LCD Panels. SK4G uses a UPD161224 LCD Panel.
The second gen SGS phones - that are gsm - seem to use the ST-Ericsson m7530 HSPA+ Lite (Thor) modem. This seems to be a different modem then the normal m7530 modem (not Thor) in the SGS Vibrant.
Almost all of these devices have very similar GPIO pin configurations, and are almost the same. Some phones use different pins to do different things. And I am slowly learning to ignore what is done for the first generation sgs devices for GPIO because it seems the second gen devices do GPIO a little differently. This maybe because how the modem is wired.
SPI is almost exactly the same. I2C setup is also exactly the same as first gen. A few devices need different regulators enabled, like the rtc on the second gen phones, and there is some other regulator that needs to be disabled on fascinate that all the other phones use.
I've also noticed that on odd devices, like the GT-I9001 (which uses a qualcomm processor), the devices used are virtually the same. Just a different processor for the core. But still use mxt224 touch screen, etc... weird huh.

bhundven said:
Well, just the processor is not the big coincidence. Even bigger, is take a look at all the "Supported" devices in the aries series:
GT-i9000, Captivate, Vibrant, Fascinate, etc...
They all have a PoP (Package-on-Package) configuration with a 512M OneNand Flash.
Now look at Epic4G (not touch), SGS4G (SGH-T959V and SGH-T959W), and SK4G. They all have a 1G Flex-OneNand Flash, in a similar PoP configuration. These are second generation SGS devices.
All of these phones have the Samsung Hummingbird Cortex-A8 core (aka: s5pc110, Exynos 3110, whatever they are calling it this week).
All of these devices also have 1G of Ram in the PoP config.
All if not almost all of these devices use Atmel mxt224 touchscreen sensors (yes, sk4g does too).
All if not almost all of these devices use a TL2796 LCD Panels. SK4G uses a UPD161224 LCD Panel.
The second gen SGS phones - that are gsm - seem to use the ST-Ericsson m7530 HSPA+ Lite (Thor) modem. This seems to be a different modem then the normal m7530 modem (not Thor) in the SGS Vibrant.
Almost all of these devices have very similar GPIO pin configurations, and are almost the same. Some phones use different pins to do different things. And I am slowly learning to ignore what is done for the first generation sgs devices for GPIO because it seems the second gen devices do GPIO a little differently. This maybe because how the modem is wired.
SPI is almost exactly the same. I2C setup is also exactly the same as first gen. A few devices need different regulators enabled, like the rtc on the second gen phones, and there is some other regulator that needs to be disabled on fascinate that all the other phones use.
I've also noticed that on odd devices, like the GT-I9001 (which uses a qualcomm processor), the devices used are virtually the same. Just a different processor for the core. But still use mxt224 touch screen, etc... weird huh.
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You my friend are quite intelligent, haha. I couldn't imagine doing the things you do in decades. That's a lot of brainpower.

TheLastSidekick said:
You my friend are quite intelligent, haha. I couldn't imagine doing the things you do in decades. That's a lot of brainpower.
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I second that. I am astounded that you have not found a job yet, bhundven. Your knowledge should raise an eyebrow over at Google.

RicAndroid said:
I second that. I am astounded that you have not found a job yet, bhundven. Your knowledge should raise an eyebrow over at Google.
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It's a very competitive landscape. So many intelligent people applying for the same jobs. Google, and others just sit back and get their choice of the cream of the crop.
My professional experience is not the same as my personal experience. Professionally, I've done more sysadmin and network admin work, only recently working on the job with embedded linux and embedded devices.
Personally, I've been working with linux since 1997 and have applied myself to learn language theory, operating system design (and wrote a small operating system in c++), and electronics where I originally started making guitar effect pedals and tube amps in 1994 or 95. Now I'm buying microcontrollers and making neat little gadgets and interested in home automation/security systems. The thing is, these companies are looking for that academic style educated people. I'm an over-achieving, self-starting, self-educated person. And I just don't answer their algorithm and "basics of computing" on a whiteboard like everyone else does. I hate whiteboards. I program computers much better
But when you apply for a job, with a bigger company like google or amazon or whatever, they put you through this cookie-cutter process that makes your brain swirl around. By the end of the day, you don't know if you are you or who. I'd rather work for a small company where I can have a larger affect on direction and know everyone else is also working towards the companies goals. Startups and smaller companies are just not hiring much in this economy.
I was unemployed in 2006 for about the same amount of time, with a similar economy issue. It'll change.
EDIT: oh yea. I turned donations back on. I really don't expect anything, because there wasn't much going on there before. which is why I turned it off in the first place. But to appease those that freaked out... there ya go

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Would be there no Galaxy S sequential for AT&T?

I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?

Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.

Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.

leetpriest said:
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
Mac

lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.

Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!

there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.

Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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cdwhit said:
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.

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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!

Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.

A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.

This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.

Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.

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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.

if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss

thecellx said:
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.

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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.

Latest from At&t..

Anyone seen this--http://www.letstalk.com/htc-inspire-att?
Looks promising, may be my next upgrade from the cappy

Kinda old news. Inspire will release first, and will then be followed by the Moto Atrix and Samsung Infuse.

really? can't be that old of news, seeing as how it hasn't come out yet....but thanks for the input I'll check into those other names you mentioned

Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
EDIT FOR THE MISUNDERSTOOD: when I said the moto atrix looked weak compared to the infusion, noticed I said LOOKED, I was only referring to the design, I felt that samsung's look is smoother thats all, I never took anything away from the processing, and operational features that the atrix so obviously hands down has over the infusion.

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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Never again.

MikeyMike01 said:
Never again.
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lol, what are you a moto fanboy? The atrix meets up with specs, but honestly, who can touch Samsungs slick, and pretty designs?

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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I just need to quote this for others to see in case you edit it.
Motorola Atrix...weak? Compared to the Infuse? Which is basically a large Captivate stock clocked from factory at 1.2Ghz? And that's a single core processor.
Atrix is dual core, has the ability to be used with docking station, has 1GB of ram.
Weak? Are you sure you're not the fanboy here? On paper, Atrix trumps.

I can't believe someone on this broad would still buy a Samsung phone!

Klyentel said:
Update: IMO, moto atrix looks weak compared to the Samsung infuse, that thing is hot!
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Haha the infuse will probably be as bad as the captivate when it comes to updates. It will probably also have ****ty GPS and lag. They make it look good but who cares if it doesn't work.
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bradleyG said:
Haha the infuse will probably be as bad as the captivate when it comes to updates. It will probably also have ****ty GPS and lag. They make it look good but who cares if it doesn't work.
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I'd say the GPS will be fixed with the Infuse but the lag...ehh..
I think for the most part, the majority here will spend their money else where.
For the original OP, you should do your research before putting on your knee high boots. Especially admitting that you haven't even heard of the Atrix or Infuse yet.
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really? can't be that old of news, seeing as how it hasn't come out yet....but thanks for the input I'll check into those other names you mentioned
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MikeyMike01 said:
Never again.
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Indeed Never Again.
If it weren't for the devs here on XDA my Captivate would have been tossed in the river months ago.

I agree, I will never buy a Samsung phone again, ever. In fact, I'll probably go to verizon when my contract is up in a year. Getting pretty tired of AT&T's bullcrap, lies false advertising, and overall ****ty service. Also the way they deal with problems: Bandwidths up this month, lets cut it down. At least verizon does it smartly and limits only the top 5% of people sucking down bandwidth, not the whole network.

norcal einstein said:
Atrix is dual core, has the ability to be used with docking station, has 1GB of ram.
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The dual core in Atrix is mostly for decoration purposes. Google won't have dual-core support in Android (Phone side) OS in the forseeable future. Only Honeycomb has dual-core support but that's not coming down to phones anytime soon.

saint168 said:
I can't believe someone on this broad would still buy a Samsung phone!
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What broad would that be? I hope she's pretty....

foxbat121 said:
The dual core in Atrix is mostly for decoration purposes. Google won't have dual-core support in Android (Phone side) OS in the forseeable future. Only Honeycomb has dual-core support but that's not coming down to phones anytime soon.
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While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.

nkrick said:
While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.
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I've been wondering this, what exactly IS webtop? If you watch the vids on the AT&T site it just shows people smiling and using them. Not actually what it looks like. It's incredibly frustrating.

GTIVRon said:
I agree, I will never buy a Samsung phone again, ever. In fact, I'll probably go to verizon when my contract is up in a year. Getting pretty tired of AT&T's bullcrap, lies false advertising, and overall ****ty service. Also the way they deal with problems: Bandwidths up this month, lets cut it down. At least verizon does it smartly and limits only the top 5% of people sucking down bandwidth, not the whole network.
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If you think AT&T's network is slow, you're going to be in for a surprise when you switch to Verizon. It is reliable though.
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What's everyones problem with the cappy? It seems you guys are blaming your phone, for your providers shortcomings. Im on my provider released 2.2. My gps works flawlessly.
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nkrick said:
While Android will be missing dual core support, the "webtop" is a full Linux OS, and as such will be able to make good use of a dual core CPU, especially since Android (the phone) will also be running simultaneously.
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Yes, purposely built and designed native apps can take advantage of dual core. But for day to day functions and almost all the APPs you use on the phone, dual-core is not supported. So, still, it is a descoretive item, not very useful for the life span of your current phone.

foxbat121 said:
Yes, purposely built and designed native apps can take advantage of dual core. But for day to day functions and almost all the APPs you use on the phone, dual-core is not supported. So, still, it is a descoretive item, not very useful for the life span of your current phone.
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If the rumors are true 2.4 will be out in April which adds dual core support
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/07/rum...d-dual-core-support-name-remains-gingerbread/
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What's next?

What's the next phone after the captivate that's going to get a lot of dev attention? It seems like the Inspire and the Atrix aren't getting much, likely due to how hard it is to load ROMs. Is it just a matter of wait and see to know what the next well-developed AT&T Android phone is?

most likely whatever the next samsung phone is, if only because they don't bother with trying to lock them down

As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol

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As it gets more defined I see it getting harder to load up custom roms for android. Ok maybe not harder but a longer flash process. I would say the next would be the next great HTC that comes out. A few have already moved from the Captivate to the Inspire and swear to leave Samsung alone lol
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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.

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I do feel like HTC has the most support among enthusiasts, but it's hard to tell. Aren't the next Sony Ericson devices going to have non locked bootloaders purposely? If any of those hit AT&T, then I feel like those are going to be hot phones to develop for, since they have bloated software, unlocked bootloaders, and a lot of hardware. Or am I totally on the wrong track?
That, and when AT&T eats up T-Mo, we should have a lot more phones, since the MT, Sidekick and G series phones will be rolled into the AT&T portfolio.
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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.

Many of our great Cappy devs moved to the Inspire(adamholden, di11i, DG)

Personally I picked up an Inspire but mainly out of boredom, I even flash my cappy more now, lol. As soon as the sgs2 is out for a few weeks ill be grabbing that too. It'll be a pricey move but with the way Samsung has taken care of those customers I see it as a good investment.

I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate

Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year

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Samsung just released benchmark figures over 3000 for the SGS2. I truly hope AT&T get it before the end of the year
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I don't see waiting for the att version a good idea at all, especially after the froyo situation.

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Personally ive had such bad experiences with sony devices of all shapes and sizes (computers, phones, home entertainment equipment) that i would buy a locked bootloader motorola phone before i would buy from sony again. that being said. ill probably go for the next great samsung phone, probably the galaxyS 2.
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I've had pretty good experiences over the years. We have some aging Sony HT gear, including my receiver that's from the 80's, before I was born!! That being said, I'm not so sold on their phones.
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Really? I don't see a whole lot going on for the Inspire. There's only a couple of roms out right now...
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I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
-There are minimal lockdowns and restrictions to functionality and development
-Their build quality isn't terrible (they use Gorilla Glass and hard plastic, etc.)
-Their software has drastically improved (launcher aside, TouchWiz is pretty cool)
-Their video drivers are the only ones with h/w acceleration of tons of video and audio formats, and their MFC has support for containers such as MKV
-You can find really good deals on upgrades to phones like the Captivate
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Top of the line hardware? Yeah, right. Samsung's hardware is decent, I love the form factor of the Captivate, but the build quality and RF are definitely a mixed bag. Some big ups, and some big downs.
I would agree about the lockdowns, however, they are a lot more open than Motorola about it.

With Gingerbread source code released, I'm happy with my Captivate for a good while longer. There are still 2.2.1 roms I haven't flashed yet. I dont think I'll be moving on anytime soon

not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.

Dani897 said:
not sure what the next will be with the 4g galaxy s line being more diverse and the galaxy s 2 not being available on contract yet.
also i think the atrix will get alot but it will come in different forms. some (like me) are holding off for alternaltive before the splurge on an atrix. i want to see what others have to offer in the dual core areana before i open my wallet but very well might get an atrix. there will be kernel modules and patches rather than kernels built from source. also they are working to get full advantage out of the motorola webtop view. using it to launch linux along side android making the accessories almost worth having.
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I wanted to love the Atrix because of it's qHD screen in the 4" form factor, but the way its locked up is just bad. I hope that devs are able to get past it, but the other thing that I'm worried about, both on the official update and ROMs side is that they will be worrying about the whole webtop/dock garbage, and that will slow down the actual software development of the device in order to incorporate a bunch of useless features.

I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.

sanjeezy91 said:
I too havn't had good experiences with sony phones. They seem to be turning into the next apple. Barely upgrade their phones and say thats its a whole new phone. (x10/arc)
Definitely want the galaxy s II. that thing's a beast and a half.
So disappointed with the Atrix's smokey screen. It had so much potential!
Has anyone heard anything about the Infuse 4g? it seems so insignificant now.
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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?

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The Galaxy S II does seem like a cool phone, I'm just a little concerned about the trend towards 4.3" screens. 4" is ginormous enough- can't we just stop there?
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Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.

Enhanced said:
Most of them reduce the bezel size so that a larger screen doesn't necessarily mean a way larger device. Take the SGSII for example and you will see that it ain't that much bigger than it's predecessor despite an extra 3 inches in screen size.
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Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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13_ said:
Lol you forgot your "."
I was like what the hell did I miss ,a seven inch screened phone?... Ha then a decimal and quick maths...oh ya. But for a second you had me
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Those videos of the english guy saying "HALLLOOOOOO!!!!!" on his giant phone will come alive with a smartphone!!!

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I'd stick with Samsung for a few reasons:
-Their hardware is top-of-the-line
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Yeah, just like the GPS in the Captivate.

LG ... secretly discontinuing the g2x?

So ... just went on lg website and was confused why the g2x is no longer listed in the smart phone tab. In fact the only place its listed is when you click "all phones". Its weird because all other phones pale in comparison even the " new" revolution ( single core snapdragon) is like a total step backwards. Any thoughts why? Me personally, I love my g2x and will probably keep it for the length of my tmo contract.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

It's still on the site though. That's a pretty wild assumption to make just because it's in a different category than you'd expect.

I highly doubt LG is secretly discontinuing their flagship phone a few months after launch.

I don't think they will discontinue their greatest phone.
Sent from my G2x

business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$

That has been like that for a while now. When I first went to LG's site to look at the phone back in mid May it was hard for me to find it on their site. I'm not sure why it is not listed in the Smartphone category unless it is just an oversight by those who manage the website.

Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
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business is business, release it, let it stay in the limelight for a while then move it other so something else can get attention. All about the $$$
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Personal preference I guess. Rather have my G2x over either of those.
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iunlock said:
Perfectly said. With the giant like Samsung Galaxy S II around the corner, once the SGSII is released it will age the current phones dramatically.
LG has to keep up with the times...particularly in the design department. You hold up the G2X against the HTC Sensation and even the SGSII (although it is simple it is very elegant) it makes the G2X look like grandpa.
It's all about the $
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What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?

hiko36 said:
What's so amazing about the SGSII that we don't currently have on the G2x?
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OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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mr.frankm said:
OC to 1.7 ghz.
Bigger screen.
I was thinking about grabbing a gs2 when it hits here. Depends on what the T-Mobile flavor ends up being (Hercules?) But only if its a significant difference between that and their international version.
Next phone I'm gonna end up getting is probably gonna have a quadcore. I think im future proofed enough.
@OP T-Mobile also took it off their website "Supply restraints." and there was also a leak from tmonews that it'd be going up in price to 300 on contract.
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...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking

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...1.5 Ghz stable...up to 1.5 Phones Only for benchmarking
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Antutu benchmark has 1.7 ghz gt-i9100's.
Oh and they have neon (?) - assumption.
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If anyone thinks LG won't drop support of their flagship phone, you should look at what they did with the Expo (Monaco) when it was released.

I checked their website. It flashes the G2X when you open their Smartphone screen, then disappears. If you go to All Phones - it is there.
Maybe they are trying to tell buyers it is not "smart" to buy one right now as a smart phone - lol.

Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.

Daveheelga said:
Yesterday, a t-mobile employee told me that they weren't going to offer it anymore. Said they were going to discontinue it.
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By Tmo rep you mean a CSR that you got on the phone?
They don't know **** from brownies.

Well it doesn't look good for the g2x. This is kind of an update to my original post. My woman's phone finally went suck-mode. It will now, not stop re-booting itself or do the screen freeze. At least 8 or more times a day. So I call tmo, which in itself was disappointing trying to charge me 20$ restocking fee or whatever they labeled it. Not to mention the Rep tried to play dumb saying tmo was unaware of the 'big 3 " issues. She later admited they did know, they just weeny ready to make it official. Anyways long story short I finally get the fee wave and she's about to tell how long the back order iswhen she says " oh... looks like its been pulled.
Me: the g2x?
Tmo Rep: yes. But don't worry you'll still get yours.
How can a company be allowed to
A. Either deliberately tell there employyees to decieve the customers on information such as known problems or issues or
B. Have such an incompatant workforce where each employee makes up their own answers.
I'm gonna go down with the ship I guess. I'm never gonna trade myg2x in. Untilled it starts messing up which I hope is never.
BTW the womans phone is pure unmolested stock no root.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me... "

derekedw said:
Samsung sucks and you're a fool if you give them business...galaxy s was a joke and sammy will find a way to screw up the sgs2 and rip off their customers.
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They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.

jrwingate6 said:
They won my heart back after there recent move which showed just how much they want to be involved in Android development. I think right now Samsung has the best display technology out there and in my opinion they make the best looking LED's and LCD's. They also managed to squeeze more power out of a dual core mobile CPU than anyone else has and if you remember, they also managed to squeeze more power out of a single core mobile CPU (Hummingbird) than anyone else. They have there problems just like everyone else. I haven't seen a perfect phone yet from any manufacturer. I don't know about everyone else but I have no problem supporting a company that is going to give a SGSII to the Cyanogen team so they can start developing for it. It would be stupid on my part to write off the company who sells more mobile phones per year than anyone else.
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Who would of thought that Samsung would have gone from goat to hero so quickly. It wasn't too long ago that people wanted their heads for froyogate. However atm, they are the most dev friendly company out there. I would have no problem supporting them in the future. That being said, one of my colleagues owns a SGS2 (on the AT&T network) and while on paper it's a beast, in reality I really couldn't discern a real difference between the sgs2 and g2x.

Hello MT4G! (for once) [rant]

Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
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MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.

+1
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PdtS said:
Hi all,
I'm seeing quite a few "farewell MyTouch 4G" topics lately, so here goes my contribution.
Two weeks ago I abandoned my Sensation 4G and bought a MyTouch 4G. I could not be happier. Think I'm crazy? Well, I think people who do the opposite are crazy, and let me explain why.
<A rant>
Sensation annoyed me for several reasons. Mainly – it was huge. "I love my phones like I love my women: smaller than me". I hate stretching my thumb trying to reach out for the notification bar, I hate having a brick in my pocket, I don't watch movies on my phone – I don't need a screen larger than 4". And honestly, I don't think anybody in their senses does. IT'S A PHONE! I hate Samsung and HTC for setting this stupid trend, a "screen race", and I respect Apple for sticking to logic and convenience despite this trend.
I was also annoyed by the battery. Yes, smartphones nowadays hardly survive a day of adequate usage, but at least let me have this day! I don't need those 2 cores in my CPU, I don't play 3D shooters. IT'S A PHONE, goddamit – not a PSP!
And the Sensation's design, it annoyed me as well. The phone wouldn't even lie straight on a table –*it was rolling. A flat back for me, please. Yes, this is personal. And those touch buttons, and a power button god knows where? Screw you!
So yeah, I bought a MT4G instead.
<A praise>
MyTouch 4G, on the other hand, is a great Android phone, one of the last such species. The size is just right. The design is great. It has physical buttons and a trackpad – thank god, I can move a letter or two back easily, or scroll through search suggestions and edit them, just like I could on G1! Whose bright idea was to remove that? And MT4G is just as quick to me as any other modern phone: I don't see any difference, and those benchmarks prove nothing to me. What I do see a difference in though is battery life: simply put, I don't have to CARE about it anymore, it's not sitting in the back of my head – "oh, I gotta switch it to the plane mode", "oh, I gotta grab a charger with me". Such a liberation.
Sensations, Rezounds, Galaxies, Nexuses (Nexii?), RAZRz – all begone until you learn once again, what a phone (A PHONE!) should be. You call THAT "a downgrade"? I'm in for more of those then. MT4G is a great phone. And you – hold on to it, you might not see another one in a while.
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+1 on the trackpad... lol who's idea WAS that???

Totally agree with you. The Mytouch 4g is my first smartphone so I never had anything to compare it to, and I've looked at a few of these new "power" phones and the more I see them the more I realize there aren't many phones that I would be happy with coming from the mytouch. It really is a great phone. And all the development that is being done on it only makes it better. I really couldn't ask for a better phone.

although i have an amaze now and i agree, the mt4g is a beastly single core phone. I loved it's design. But are you serious about reaching for the notification bar? Lol it's less then half an inch bigger vertically than the mt4g unless you have small hands then yes that may be problems for some lol.
However, it's not the screen that's annoying but the overall design of the phone.. Such as the spaces above and below the screen is so God dam wide and useless. It's like half an inch on top and full inch on the bottom.
Btw the dual core actually saves battery life because it uses less energy.
And agreed the speed is not a huge difference especially to those who don't do much with their phones. But i noticed many small things that i like especially the camera.
Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G using XDA App

+1
As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Alenamari said:
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As I said this almost a year ago in this very forum. That MT4G (GSM-US) and TB (CDMA-US) will be last of its kind (SC-2GS) by HTC following DhD (GSM-EU). I got this phone after I lost my HD2-US (Leo1024) while out for a night with GF.
Even when I knew and know the dual core is pushed by the vendors I sticked to MT4G as it was still not out in market when DZ (G2-US) came out in TMoUS. Most of the people here are new and have no clue as they most likely got it free with contract (goodbye no contract plans).
I personally don't give a F about dual or quad core on our phone. As most people don't even understand hardware much less the SoC they own. I had this over a year and ill keep it until the death of TMoUS. When THE Death Star (AT&T) gobble up and make GSM monopoly to at&Tmobile.
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Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.

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Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?

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Wait… no they didn't. They just questioned it in terms of monopolization and jobs, and now everything is stuck until someone proves and/or pays something to someone. And knowing the power of corporations nowadays, and that this merger is a mutual interest from AT&T and T-Mobile, I'm pretty sure that it will eventually happen one way or another.
A different story is whether it's that bad. Yes, less competition, possibly higher rates, but consider this: our UMTS (and possibly LTE) network will finally become compatible with the rest of the world. Think of how many global phones we'll be able to order from overseas! Isn't it a token in favor of this merger?
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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...

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and think of how much we would have to pay to get that...
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Well, take that MIUI M1 phone for instance: $300-something isn't half bad for such machine, it would cost twice as much in the US easily.

Teo032 said:
Guys guys, he has a gf! he? or she? can't really determine by your name but anyways.
Totally confused by your second paragraph, what do you mean the vendors pushed dual core phone during the g2 time?? i think the first dual core phone for tmous was g2x? which was in march this year. You're about a half year off. And I believe the phone was only free a couple times around that time too *gs4g release and g2x release. not sure what you mean by new
Oh and you're about 2.5 months late... but the US pulled the plug on the merger.
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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Lol my name is a <>< so don't worry. It's known only to folks here who been OG. Now when I mean vendor I mean not the carrier but the manufacturer. What you have to understand is the SoC is almost 1+ years on the market before its picked up and applied for carriers. You got MT4G when? I got it over a year ago and by then we knew of Atrix (Fk a G2X). What do you need dual core for?
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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.

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For someone who only has 2 posts, you speak as though you've been here for years. It was just confusing the way you stated things, but yes i do understand that the chips and hardware are made earlier before it is ever picked up. mt4g was released barely a year ago unless you got like an imported version. I got mine in february when development picked up and when they started offering the phone for free. So i bought it off CL for cheap.
I'm not denying the fact that the mt4g is a great phone. I was just confused about what you meant by vendors pushing dual core phones when the g2 was released. When the atrix wasn't released until i think december or january. But you made it clear you meant the manufacturers, so understandable.
lol are you serious about the last question? it's like why are people using dual core computers, you guys should just use some p4's it'll still get the job done.
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Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?

Alenamari said:
Are you serious? This is coming from a kid who I haven't seen in this forum before? Did you honestly compare my post count with and judge me as new user based on that? LOL someone explain it to this child who I am before I import my avatar.
Now MT4G came out in since 2010Q4 which is you got 3months after it was in TMoUS but I got it 3months before it came out in TMoUS, which as a regular user you do not have the connection nor the SIC to get any device from any manufacture until its picked up by the carrier. But we normally have access and get it close to 3-6months before its released.
Now ill let your third paragraph go as my 2nd one explains it why we have access to it which you would NOT know. Lets put it this way if its on XDA its old and we don't want it mostly when the manufacture already have the device and they pitching to the carrier thats when we hear about it. After that the carriers dictates and changes it and orders it based on their needs before its picked up.
Far as your last foolish question goes I been using 128bit ASF since you were using AMD 750MHZ Duron (Socket A). I am SNS Unix admin and yes a P4 does do the job I built a custom router that runs on P4 @ 3GHz with 2GB DDR2 PC3200 with 120GB HDD which acts as my oSF switch that runs on *nix.
PS: My point is don't FOLLOW the trend, but lead it. You just want a dual core why? Cuz its newest? cuz some retard who has no idea on Youtube took joker quadrant and showed you its faster? ATM I am using AOSP2.3.7GB running at SAv2 368mhz-1027mhz VDD750 with total mod to MT4G thats beyond scope of XDA. So don't tell me that you have any POS apps that needs dual core when at 768mhz+ phone has no lag. Must be that POS Sense crap that loads huge 300mb+ framework to ram. Hence why AOSP rom = 80mb? while Sense = 300mb+?
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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
but yeah Im also sticking with my MT4G as I see no real reason for me to upgrade just yet. this is my first android smartphone and I have no complaints/issues at all...even if I did I already solved them by searching xda. although other devices look appealing, spec-wise I have no reason to get a newer phone that will just get outdone(maybe?) in another 3 months or so

I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

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I agree 100% about the Sensation screen bring just too big. It bugged me to no end. You can't reach the top left corner without repositioning the phone in your hand and stretching as far as possible. I had to use two hands most of the time. Annoying.
I disagree on the design comments though. The Sensation is a beauty. I always hated the "mytouch" on my phone.
All being said, this is the third time I come back to the mytouch. I'm sticking to it until it can't turn on anymore.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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lol i really hate the "Mytouch" name...
which genius came up with that??
it makes the Glacier sound cheap and a "iPhone copycat" even though it's far from that...

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mighty devilish arent we??? lol
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Shhh "THEY" are watching...

I'm new to the MyTouch 4g, I've only had it for 24 hours or so, but I have to say that I like the phone more than I thought I would. I'm primarily a Nexus One/Nexus S user, but the MyTouch compares nicely to the Nexus One. Rooting was easy, and the phone feels much faster than many newer generation phones. Using physical buttons takes some getting use to, but overall I think it's one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Strangely enough I purchased it primarily to use in Europe/Spain, so it'll be interesting to see how it holds up to that task.

whoa whoa whoa hold on there cowboy, i never said you weren't here for a long time. I just had the notion that you were, but I was confused by your post count, hence the, you Speak as if you've been here for a long time, not, You ACT as if you've been here longer than i have blah blah blah (lol). And that you have been. I'm not questioning your credibility or anything oh mighty one (lol) I completely agree with you on every aspect that the mt4g is an awesome phone, trust me on that I still have one that i mess around with thats why I still frequent this section.
I wasn't attacking your posts or anything. Like i said, i was confused on the way you stated things and how YOUR release dates of phones didn't match the official release dates. Thanks for clearing that up btw... any hookups haha jk.
But don't go and assume I follow the trends and go by quadrant scores and stuff; I actually do the exact opposite example. The only reason why I'm using the amaze isn't because of the dual core processor. I actually got it for a really good deal on CL for $350 in mint condition. I jumped on it. But anyways It's just the small stuff I like about the amaze, especially the camera functionality, and the ridiculous 18mbps speed i hit from time to time. other than that, people shouldn't go out and jump and get an amaze right away. I told many not to bother because development is still in the baby stages and you should save your money until the price drops.
And do you know what computer im using right now?? an AMD64 X2 5000+ black edition. you remember those? lol
I don't even remember how we got into this mess, I wasn't vouching for dual cores, I agreed with everyone here LOL. I was just confused about your release dates tis all

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