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DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
The title says it all!
Doktaphex said:
As the title suggests, this is warning against flashing the new RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release. It contains a new version of HBoot that breaks root and standard S-OFF! Please refer to these threads for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
You may be safe if you have full radio S-OFF and SuperCID but this is unconfirmed, and I would steer well clear until the DEVs have cracked open this latest HBoot.
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Confirmed:
Only if you have full radio S-OFF you can 'downgrade' to 1.32xxxxxx and root
Yes, I can confirm that, too. You have to have Super-CID (Radio S-OFF) to downgrade. Rooting is not possible in this new one. Yet.
Can please someone explain me what's the real difference between ENG S OFF But CID 11111 and SHIP S OFF and CID HTC....?
ENG S-OFF: It is engineering bootloader S-OFF (may include Radio S-OFF). Allows custom bootloader commands, for example radio flashing, also allows to install custom roms.
SHIP S-OFF: Radio S-OFF, does not allow radio flashing, but allows ClockworkMod flashing. Usually comes together with SuperCID.
CID 11111111: Super-CID, Super Carrier ID, allows you to downgrade, and flash really anything to the phone without the phone saying "no thanks".
CID HTC__xxx: HTC Carrier ID, does not allow downgrading via RUU, but you can still flash through ClockworkMod if you are S-OFF.
Thank you very much for this answer..I ask because i cannot find this information somewhere in one post!
I am with ENG S-OFF and CID 11111111
So i can flash the new RUU and i am able to revert back to 1.32xxxxxx and root again.Correct?
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
Yeah but it needs clockworkmod, which goes away if people use the actual RUU. Also flashing system.img does not replace the bootloader, so S-OFF stays in fine (also hboot S-OFF).
How can you tell what your CID is?
madindehead said:
How can you tell what your CID is?
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Bootloader > Fastboot > System Info (or something like that)
If you are SuperCID then it is 11111111 if not, then it begins with HTC_xxxx
looks like also this RUU_Ace_Orange_ES_1.75.75.2_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_2 6.04.02.17_M2_release also seems to stop you gaining root and fix's patched Hboot as someone saying he flashed the rom and can't gain root.
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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can you tell how to extract the system.img from rom?
all i get is a [0] file. dont know what to do with it.
[HOW TO SAFELY FLASH THE NEW ROM AND BE ABLE TO REVERT BACK]
Currently, the new ROM (1.72.405.3) has a new HBOOT (so you can't install ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and is difficult to root (not as simple as it is with previous ROMs). However, it also has a better radio, and a faster ROM with various bugfixes. This ROM is also Android Froyo v2.21. If you want to try out the new ROM, whilst maintaining the ability to 'revert' back to your older, hackable state then follow the below instructions carefully. Also, do not worry about extracting system.img files and whatnot.
*It is recommended to do a NANDROID BACKUP first
*All RUUs can be obtained from www.xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/
*If you don't do steps 1-3 properly and flash the new ROM, you will not be able to revert back
*Radio S-OFF and SuperCID can be obtained by following instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
*Tutorial for flashing RUUs (needed for steps 4 & 8): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841890
1. Install Radio S-OFF (NOT ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and SuperCID
2. Go to bootloader, then System Info. (If System Info is not there, but you have SHIP S-OFF skip step 3 and proceed to step 4)
3. Make sure CID is 11111111 *AND* the bootloader shows S-OFF. If not, repeat step 1
4. You can now flash the new ROM (1.72.405.3)
5. This will remove ENG HBOOT (if you had it) and ClockworkMod
6. If you did steps 1-3 correctly, your Desire HD should still be S-OFF. Go to bootloader and check. If not, you did not do steps 1-3 correctly and will have to wait for the new HBOOT to be cracked.
When you are done with the new ROM and want to go back, follow the instructions below:
7. Download the HTC RUU 1.32.405.6 of your choice (Since you are SuperCID you can flash any RUU)
8. Flash it to your Desire HD
9. Root your ROM using Visionary, and install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod. You can optionally install ENG HBOOT S-OFF now if you like.
If you made a NANDROID Backup, you can restore this now from ClockworkMod
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I can't get this to work myself, unfortunately.
joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I have this working. The supplied .zip file does not include Superuser.apk. After following the instructions and then installing Superuser from the market I now have root on this rom.
Look forward to testing it over the next couple of days while I lay in hope of some custom roms based off this version.
EDIT: Superuser keeps force closing
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
doh!
being used to the days of winmo I flashed this rom over my cyanogen taking a backup first.
Now I can't revert back to the old stock rom, any way of doing this (easily ish)?
Hi, I'm ENG S-Off but my CID is not 1111111, what's the safest way to do the Super-CID?
I'm stucked abroad using a **** phone cos I can't use another sim in my DHD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk on Revolution 1. 92
ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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Also on the same boat...
Anyone??
ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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looks like you are, you have superCID.
Now we have S-Off for HBOOT 1.06 (CDMA)
This will allow you to use UNREVOKED 3.0 to root your phone. Enjoy!!!!
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
Do I miss something, but what new in it for Desire?
We already have S-OFF with Alpharev 1.80.
Why do we need AlpharevX?
dmatik said:
Do I miss something, but what new in it for Desire?
We already have S-OFF with Alpharev 1.80.
Why do we need AlpharevX?
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Pretty simple : Those who had HBOOT > 0.93.0001 couldn't S-off their device before. Now, it seems they can. Then you won't need this unless you have this kind of HBOOT.
kev94 said:
Pretty simple : Those who had HBOOT > 0.93.0001 couldn't S-off their device before. Now, it seems they can. Then you won't need this unless you have this kind of HBOOT.
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not true. I have been able to s-off with 0.93.0001. Thats not the point of it.
I also checked my Desire and I got S-Off with Alpharev 1.80 and HBOOT 0.093.0001.
So, whats the difference?
Should this NOT be in the dev-forum?
Sent from my bicycle with no wheels
i only updated with new HBOOT and never used alpharev beta tool (only the old one). Check my sign...
This is specifically for CDMA users and newer HTC devices. It also means you don't have to root as you're already S-OFF - you can just flash a new ROM after flashing a custom recovery
kev94 said:
Pretty simple : Those who had HBOOT > 0.93.0001 couldn't S-off their device before. Now, it seems they can. Then you won't need this unless you have this kind of HBOOT.
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> = higher then hboot 0.93.0001.
So if your hboot is higher then 0.93.0001. You cant get s-off so his info is correct.
Scotsman828 said:
Now we have S-Off for HBOOT 1.06
This will allow you to use UNREVOKED 3.0 to root your phone. Enjoy!!!!
http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/
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You don't even have to run unrevoked. Once they have S-Off some people have rooted by fastboot flashing a custom recovery, then flashing superuser as a zip. There's a tutorial thread over in AndroidForums (Desire All Things Root forum).
Presumably a pre-rooted ROM would also work at this point, but I guess this allows you to run Ti backup etc before doing that (or keep the current ROM).
Edit: Of course anyone doing it this way must make sure they flash the correct recovery for their device (GSM or CDMA). I believe that it's only (some) CDMA devices which have HBOOT 1.06, so most can just use unrevoked without this. And remember it's still in beta at the moment.
But it means that previously unrootable Desires can now be rooted
Yes this is for CDMA version of Desire. I tried Unrevoked before this came out and could not get root. After I ran the Alpharev to get S-Off, I got root with Unrevoked. Had to run Unrevoked so I could get ClockworksMod recovery. It was a really simple process, no need to create a special CD. I quickly canned the HTC ROM for CM7. Data worked without APN restore. Life is good
once you're s-off, you should to flash recovery through fastboot. Now you're able to flash any rom
Indeed ive just used revolutionary and it worked flawlessly on desire hboot 1.06
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!
Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.
htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..
Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?
Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!
EDIT: Misread post
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks
First of all sorry for that question, but I can't find what I'm looking for. (I'm sure it is somewhere in this great forum)
I want to root my DS, but without changing the Rom at this time.
I need to edit some files which are write protected.
I found al lot of instructions to get the Phone S-OFF and to downgrade the bootloader, tp flash a custom ROM but no way to get root access without changing the ROM.
Do I need to install a pre rooted rom (2.10.401.8) or something? My DS is unbranded and because of warrenty issues, I don't want to use HTCDev to unlock it.
Thank you very much for your help
- if you can s-off, so you have to s-on again to keep warranty. And it has some risk to brick your phone
- unlock by htcdev is pretty safer then s-off
- if you want to s-off anyway, what is your hboot version?
- no need to install custom rom to gain root access. Just to s-off OR unlock hboot, install custom recovery then flash superuser to root
vndnguyen said:
- if you can s-off, so you have to s-on again to keep warranty. And it has some risk to brick your phone
- unlock by htcdev is pretty safer then s-off
- if you want to s-off anyway, what is your hboot version?
- no need to install custom rom to gain root access. Just to s-off OR unlock hboot, install custom recovery then flash superuser to root
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Thank you,for your answer. Hboot Version is 2.00.0002. I know, that I have to switch back to S-On for warrenty, but this is an other issue. And this part of job is quite clear. I use zergRush to get temp root and replace misc_version. Than I use Revolutionary to get S-off.
You wrote I have to install custom recovery than flash su to root. That is exactly the part of the job I don't know how to do.
Which custom recovery should I use, how do I flash it to get root access?
Millord_01 said:
Thank you,for your answer. Hboot Version is 2.00.0002. I know, that I have to switch back to S-On for warrenty, but this is an other issue. And this part of job is quite clear. I use zergRush to get temp root and replace misc_version. Than I use Revolutionary to get S-off.
You wrote I have to install custom recovery than flash su to root. That is exactly the part of the job I don't know how to do.
Which custom recovery should I use, how do I flash it to get root access?
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ok once you have s-off you are ready to install custom recovery and then root
- Custom recovery: can use 4EXT or CWM. Search in the forum for the installation files and how to flash it.
- Root: can use Superuser 3.1.3 or SuperSU 0.96. Search in the forum for the installation files, and boot into recovery to flash it.
This is all in the index, see signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627066
Just follow each step of the guide and you will have root access to your phone. You will still be on hboot 2.00.002 and s-on.
Hi
With these specifications, Can I flash any rom to my htc one sv ?
I have TWRP v2.6.3.2 Recovery
Please , Help me.
*** Tampered***
***Unlocked***
K2_UL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBoot - 2.21.000
Radio - 1.18.40a.00.05
OpenDSP-v13.2.0268.0620
OS- (Wiped)
CID - HTC_J15
Thanks.
Better would be S-Off, but yes, you should be able to flash a rom with this.
But don't forget to flash boot.img from your rom with fastboot, every time you flash a new rom.
old.splatterhand said:
Better would be S-Off, but yes, you should be able to flash a rom with this.
But don't forget to flash boot.img from your rom with fastboot, every time you flash a new rom.
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Thanks, but I can't find any rom for my region, icm:HTC_J15. Could you give me a link to download a rom for my region ?
Don't mix it with official updates from HTC!
A (custom) rom is made not by HTC, this you can use.
A update by HTC don't have a rom.zip inside.
A RUU has a rom inside, but this is cid related.
So better clarify, what you are searching or what you want to do!
old.splatterhand said:
Don't mix it with official updates from HTC!
A (custom) rom is made not by HTC, this you can use.
A update by HTC don't have a rom.zip inside.
A RUU has a rom inside, but this is cid related.
So better clarify, what you are searching or what you want to do!
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I don't have any rom in my cellphone and my system wiped,
Now, I want to flash a new rom.
Can I flash a stock rom or I must flash a custom rom ?
Can you give me a link to download a rom for flashing properly (Stock or Custom) ?
Thanks.
Try stock k2ul rom from here.
old.splatterhand said:
Try stock k2ul rom from here.
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Thank you very much,
Can I make my phone S-Off before flashing this rom ?
Or firstly I should flash this rom and then try to make S-Off ?
If yes, which method ? facepalm or moonshine ?
I Apologize, This was my last Q today ?
Bye.
Your phone must have android running, then you can try rumrunner.us
Facepalm or moonshine are for previous software versions.
But as it seems, the side is down at the moment.
old.splatterhand said:
Try stock k2ul rom from here.
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I tried this rom and it worked for me.:good:
Thank you very much.
Nice to hear
old.splatterhand said:
Your phone must have android running, then you can try rumrunner.us
Facepalm or moonshine are for previous software versions.
But as it seems, the side is down at the moment.
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Hi,
I used rumrunner.us and now my device is S-OFF. Therefore I must be able to flash other roms after changing my cid and hboot version. Is it right ?
And another question is,
I've flashed Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip and superuser.apk has been installed but those programs that want to get root access, can't do this like Root Explorer, and in RootValidator as you can see in the picture below, shows "Root was denied to this app!", and from ADB I can to get root access, but why programs don't have any root access ?
Thanks.
my_amin said:
Hi,
I used rumrunner.us and now my device is S-OFF. Therefore I must be able to flash other roms after changing my cid and hboot version. Is it right ?
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Depends on, if we are talking about official HTC roms/updates or custom roms. For custom roms you usually don't need to change CID.
I've flashed Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip and superuser.apk has been installed but those programs that want to get root access, can't do this like Root Explorer, and in RootValidator as you can see in the picture below, shows "Root was denied to this app!", and from ADB I can to get root access, but why programs don't have any root access ?
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You should use SuperSu, because i'm not sure that Superuser is still in development (especially for newer Android versions).
Grab the zip file here and flash in recovery (should also remove Superuser you have already flashed).
old.splatterhand said:
Depends on, if we are talking about official HTC roms/updates or custom roms. For custom roms you usually don't need to change CID.
You should use SuperSu, because i'm not sure that Superuser is still in development (especially for newer Android versions).
Grab the zip file here and flash in recovery (should also remove Superuser you have already flashed).
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Thank you again, my device was rooted completely and now programs have root access.