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ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....
garydv2002 said:
ok i have downloaded the I727UCALC4 leaked update for the galaxy s2 skyrocket and i have a few questions i hope someone anyone out there who has tried it can answer.
1. how is the performance? does it slow down the phone?
2. is there a big change in the user interface?
3. can i flash this rom without tripping the flash counter?
4. if this rom is actually from at&t will it void my warranty?
5. do i need to be rooted to flash this rom?
6. if i dont like this update can i go back to the stock rom?
7. if so how would i return to stock rom if i wanted to?
8. does ice cream sandwich live up to all the hype ive heard?
9. any glitches or any problems? anything thats not working or unstable?
sorry for so many questions i just cant find that much info on how it actually works after you install it. right now all the info is about how to install it and not about after... any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated since im having trouble deciding and finding the answers to my questions.... thanks guys....
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You should use the search function of the forum. All of the questions you asked have been discussed many times and I find it hard to believe that you looked because many of the questions you asked are stickied or are still on the first page. I'm telling you this because there is a lot of information to cover on your questions (many of them could possibly have several different answers) and the easiest way for you to get all of the information you need is to look at what people have already said and done. There is even a "One Stop Shop ICS" thread that is stickied in the DEV section. Nope, I can't believe you even tried...but good luck and read as much as you can. Short-cuts will only get you a bricked phone.
well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks
ok i found the all things ics forum you were talking about so im gonna read all that info and if i still have any questions ill come back and ask. if anyone has any links to info they feel might help feel free to post them. also if you know of any better ics roms than this leaked one for the skyrocket feel free to post links on those. thanks for pointing me in the right direction now maybe i can find enough info to make up my mind on whether to flash this rom or wait for a better one or the official release.. thanks again...
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well i have read alot and i think that may be my problem. i have read alot on android 4.0.3 and i have found info that the nexus got it first and this update is way different for the skyrocket. like the user interface is way different. cant seem to find a straight answer on it as people seem to be split on the user interface. thats why i wanted someone who has actually installed it to kinda point me in the right direction on some of my questions. i dont mind reading info but im new to this sight and am just figuring out how to search for info on xda. typing questions in google has gotten me only more confused. ive had good luck on xda in the past and trust the info on this site above any other. if you could copy and paste some links i dont mind doing my own reasearch as a matter of fact i had rather that way i can download what i need as i go..... thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573218
Start from the top and work your way down. If you have an I727 I would definately only research ICS on the I727 and not any other phone. As you said, they are different. You will also find that there are no 100% answers on a lot of your questions. What works on one phone might act a little different on another. That is why it is better to read and be prepared...just in case.
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will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update
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will the att ics update remove clock work mod from my phone? i just flashed cwm and made a back up of my stock gb rom but want to be able to flash back using cwm if i dont like the leaked update
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If you use the "Odin" version (One click Odin with the ICS leak) you will need to put cwm back on your phone via Odin. If you use cwm to install one of the custom ROMS you will retain cwm. Directions on how to put cwm back on your phone can be found in the "DEV" section. If you use the ODIN method you will need to re-root anyway, I prefer Copperhed's method...again, found in the "DEV" section. Good luck.
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well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...
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well i found a stock rom thats not a odin one click and not from a backup but it is stock. if i put the tar file on my sd can i flash it with cwm and if so will i lose it that way or do i need to find a rom already rooted injected with cwm? sorry for so many questions...
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Do not try to flash TAR files through CWM. Only ZIP files (approved for flashing with cwm) can be flashed via CWM. TAR files are for ODIN. I suggest you learn more about the differences before trying anything. There are very direct and clear directions for all of this in the different XDA skyrocket sections (mostly in the "DEV" section). Do yourself a favor and take a week or two to do some reading and learning. Good luck.
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from all the reading i been doing all day from the everything ics forum its best to flash the odin one click first then flash cwm again and install your choice of custom roms [zip files] since im on gingerbread now. something with the modem and radio is giving alot of problems unless you flash the odin one click first. im gonna take your advice and do alot more reading before i decide. i had a captivate before i got the skyrocket and flashed many different versions thru odin on it but have never flashed a rom with cwm before. so odin or heimdall is not new too me just cwm. but now that i found out about cwm and the way it can backup roms ill never be without it again. its kinda like having life insurance it there if i screw up lol.. thanks for helping me and if i run across anything else im not sure about ill ask cause its better to ask than to mess it all up... ill let you know what i decide and how it turns out... thanks again
Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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garydv2002 said:
Well I made up my mind and flashed the odin one click leaked update of ics. Then used odin to flash clockwork mod and used cwm to then root and make a backup of ics just in case. I restored my apps and data using titanium backup and never lost any data not even on the games I play. Oh and if anyone is wondering this ics update flashing cwm and rooting did not trip the flash counter none of it did. From what I read the flash counter only moves when a custom rom is flashed and this was not a custom rom but a leaked version of stock rom to come. Also flashing cwm does not trip the counter cause you are only flashing a recovery image and not a custom rom and the root didn't cause you are not flashing anything using this method... thanks to all for the help I could not have done this without those who pointed me in the right direction..
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You are moving in the right direction. Your next stop is "ROM flashing addiction"...enjoy (LOL).
What is your favorite ics rom? Include a link so I can check it out..
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when i rooted, i got rid of some original apps and i can not remember which ones. Now i received the update and it failed. A member said that if you modified the build prop or deleted original apps you will not receive this. It took me a week to get enough nerve to root this. The member say you will have to remember which ones and restore them by asking people on the forums for the original apks.
is there anyway you guys can help me, as you can tell im a novice and messed with something I should not have. again help.
I doubt anyone here can guess what app's you've got an also you'll need to install them as system (which is different to normal app install)
What version firmware are you on?
Your best bet would be back up all your data and install the ROM's from Asus's site then use the one click root option posted in the development forum.
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when i rooted, i got rid of some original apps and i can not remember which ones. Now i received the update and it failed. A member said that if you modified the build prop or deleted original apps you will not receive this. It took me a week to get enough nerve to root this. The member say you will have to remember which ones and restore them by asking people on the forums for the original apks.
is there anyway you guys can help me, as you can tell im a novice and messed with something I should not have. again help.
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Here are the list on my "system/app" folder compare with yours. If you are missing any of these you will need to restore them, I don't really know the correct process to do this, but I assume it entails using ADB
It might be faster to flash recovery & start from scratch.
In the future, you might look at Titanium Backup. You can freeze apps without uninstalling.
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It might be faster to flash recovery & start from scratch.
In the future, you might look at Titanium Backup. You can freeze apps without uninstalling.
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He can only flash recovery if he's unlocked. If he's not he needs to push the apks back
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If you're rooted you can flash recovery while still locked using adb:
flash through staging partition (mmcblk0p4 I THINK)
su
dd if=/sdcard/recoveryblob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 (I THINK)
reboot
Should get you recovery and you can proceed to manual flash.
I'm making a US and WW sku that's prerooted for people with CWM to flash, should be up within a few days (waiting on upload speed upgrade... x.x)
I purchased a Galaxy Exhilarate last weekend. This phone was just released by AT&T a few days before that. After playing around with the phone, and doing some reading, I can admit, they've done a decent job. Of course, it comes with all the standard "bloat" that all the phones have, but it also has a few nice things too.
For one, reading using the Barnes & Noble Nook App is not bad, esp. since I own a Nook. To read the same books I'm reading on my nook, just tell the nook app the same account you use for your nook, and all your purchased content (including games) will be available. Of course, my Nook is hacked with Android, and I can do far more than just read books on it. Anyway, I'm off topic here.
After toying around with the phone, I decided it was time to delve deeper into it, and look at rooting it. I did a quick search, and, well, there's NOTHING out there on how to root it!
I also wasn't sure how to get into the Android Restore mode.
After looking into it, I figured it out on my own
1) Power down the phone
2) Push & hold both the UP and DOWN volume buttons and then push and hold the Power button.
3) "Samsung" will come up, and then disappear. AS SOON as it disappears, release all the buttons
The phone will now boot into the Android System Recovery mode.
As I'm just getting started, I'll post more when I get to that point!
To play around (if you just happen to own this phone), you should read the entire post. You can also go straight to my guide on how to root using a workaround I developed with Shaggypenquin and j3r3goss. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29566997
If you are an XDA Admin, would like to see this get it's own forum with the other Samsung phones! Thanks!
Rooting the Galaxy Exhilarate
Hello , I'm new to the forum , but I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Exhilarate recently. I'm sad to say that although you SHOULD be able to "root the phone using a standard technique for Android 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread" , I cannot. I follow the procedure for rooting Androids 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread (using the attached file that you provided), and it gave me a message stating "E:failed to verify whole-file signature. (new line) E:signature verification failed". I'm a noob when it comes to Androids to know what this message means, however I'm hoping you can provide me with some much needed assistance
P.S. I've tried to research around, very thoroughly in my opinion, so this is a last resort of sorts haha
-Thank you in advance!
DaveeG: I too have run into the issue you are talking about. I haven't had time to try to figure out the workaround yet. Check back in early July... Maybe I'll figure something out, or someone else will, and they'll post here.
BlackWolf
Alright , thanks. Somebody help me pleasee ,
anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.
Excuse my ignorance , but what exactly do you mean by a system dump? sounds like a reset of some kind,
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anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.
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gicuenitro: I'll see if I can get one done. It may be a few days. Next week I start vacation, so I plan to spend a day just messing around w/ this.
You cant apply unofficial updates through the stock recovery as it will check to see if it is signed by samsung. Either patch the recovery or find another way to root.
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It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:
androiddeveloper89 said:
It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:
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I have used CWM before. I look forward to your solution. I think the Exhilarate is similar to another AT&T phone that may already be rooted, but I don't know if one phone's hack/root will apply to another, similar phone.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
Made several unsuccessful attempts to root this device with SuperOneClick v2.3.3 and DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT for Skyrocket (i727). On a side note, rebooting restores all uninstalled at&t bloatware.
I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Flash a kernel with a patched recovery then install the su files from the recovery.
That's how antsm did it for the galaxy ace 2, try give him a message and see if he'll whip up a quick kernel for you. I would give it a go but I don't have a Linux machine right now. Remember to ask him politely though.
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I haven't tried yet. This is my first Sammy phone so I've just been reading rooting guides for similar phones.
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If someone could get a system dump I would greatly appreciate it. I somehow manage to screw up the stock recovery and now my capacitive buttons only respond once or twice after booting and then they appear to lock up. Attempted to do a full restore through Kies with no success. Chatted with samsung and they say at this time there is no way to do a full reinstall.
Still unable to root/sysdump
Ok, been trying to get root access and/or do a system dump on the phone.
So far, no luck.
However, I have been able to get the phone to dump its system properties...
Here they are (hopefully, this can be used as a start?):
<Rest of post deleted here due to size/length of post (and not needed)>
I used the ADB to get shell access to the phone. When I type the command "su dd if=/dev/block/stl6 of=/sdcard/factoryfs.rfs" I get "su: permission denied".
So, assuming "su" is superuser, how do I get that if my phone isn't rooted???
Thanks for any help you can give.
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ODIN Mode
da9b16 said:
I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?
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Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?
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I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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Almost there... maybe... I think...
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I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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I think you may have gone the wrong way about this - however, I am working on a manual root for the phone - and I think I may have something soon!
If/when I get rooted, I'll make sure I post the original img so you can at least recover your phone back to stock.
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BlackWolf
I was originally trying to root to be able to install cwn through rom manager, but since that didn'tr work I was trying to push CWM thru Odin so I could do a a nadroid and then try to flash superuser and busybox through cwm. I admit I don't know much about it.This is only my second android phone and the first time I've had a backup if I mess something up
I keep searching trying to find stuff. I found a thread on another forum that led me to getting root. I know patience is a virtue, and all, but I should would like to see some work on roms, and recoveries, and for there to actually be a section on XDA for this device.
Yeah I accidentally tried to flash a bootloader from the "Verizon-GS3-CASUAL-Revision131a" java program. I lost my backups in the process so can anyone give me a hand with a backup from thier Stellar?
Hey I actually found the open-source kernel and platform for the Stellar at Samsung's Open Souce site.
Would that help me any?
Idk, I unfortunately don't know much about the development side of things. I rely on the devs here for that stuff. I'm to afraid to mess something up to flash something that someone else hasn't said that it works. I used to do that with my Captivate, but I need this phone to work, and not stuck in infinite bootloop
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Idk, I unfortunately don't know much about the development side of things. I rely on the devs here for that stuff. I'm to afraid to mess something up to flash something that someone else hasn't said that it works. I used to do that with my Captivate, but I need this phone to work, and not stuck in infinite bootloop
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You wouldn't happen to have a backup by any chance?
I don't know what recovery to use, or how to flash it. If I had that I could make a backup, and upload it
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If you got ClockworkMod recovery onto your phone (as I saw you got it rooted) you may be able to give me a zip and I think I can make it into a .tar file so Odin will read it since Odin mode is the only mode my phone will get into right now.
I'll keep looking around for some other methods of backup...I also heard Titanium Backup wasn't too bad...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1491157
This link is a place where I found the possibility of using a CWM .zip file for Odin.
I am rooted, but have not installed a recovery. I am not sure which one to flash, or how to flash it
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Hmm...you bring up a good point. It's best I not ask you to put in a new recovery mode since we don't know what exactly that will do to the Stellar. I will say that before I bricked the phone I actually did make it work...barely so lets not do that.
Can you try using some programs that access the phone through the computer?
Google this: Index of /romdump
You should find a little program calle Romdump. It should extract the roms without messing anything up.
Do you know about ADB? If not I do have enough experience to help you with that.
You need to have a clockwork mod recovery that is built for this phone, or whatever phone you are using, in order to get it to flash. Without a custom recovery for the galaxy stellar, or at least a recovery that is sure to work for this phone (I think I heard about some S3 stuff that works for the stellar, like the root method I think you used) the recovery will not flash and your phone will not load until you reflash the stock recovery.
Do not flash any recoveries until you know they work for your phone (i.e. someone has tested them), or without a backup of your stock recovery.
Since you are both saying you're not devs and don't really know what you're doing (neither do I really) I would suggest not flashing any recoveries that have not been confirmed to work for the stellar. Yes, many people use CWM and TWRP but there is a custom build of those recoveries for every phone, they are not universal.
I'm really interested in this phone so I'm hoping some development starts. Without community support and development I don't think I would bother switching to Verizon to get this phone even though its free. I hate cell phone contracts...
Not to be rude, but you wouldn't happen to have a rooted Galaxy Stellar on hand?
I also found something else that may help bring the phones back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960946
UPDATE: If anyone can use this on their phones I would be very grateful:
This link shows how to use romdump to get the stock firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771347
I thought there would be a lot more people like me who needed a new phone, didn't really have money for an upgrade, so they went with this phone like I did. Doesn't really seem like it has gained much interest in the dev community. It still doesn't have it's own subforum on here. I am starting to really regret getting this phone. Half the fun of having android for me was the dev, and community support for the devices I had in the past. I had the galaxy s, and the inspire 4g, both of which had really big communities, and they started pretty much right at the release for those phones.
Has it even been out an entire month yet?
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Has it even been out an entire month yet?
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No, it'll be a month on the 6th.
Hey do you two have Samsung Stellars? If so, are you interested in rooting your phone?
STOCK ROM!
HEY guys I rooted my phone already. Things were going great, until i decided to download some kind of font switch. I guess it is required for the phone to be root. Then it asked me to restart my phone, that's when my phone froze on the samsung logo screen . It' stuck there ever since. I did a factory reset, and that didn't work either. So i downloaded ODIN and im waiting for a STOCK rom! can anybody help me with that and PM me?It would be great THANKS!
Anyone have an idea on how to back up the stock rom? I haven't seen anyone who has successfully done it with this phone yet
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Anyone have an idea on how to back up the stock rom? I haven't seen anyone who has successfully done it with this phone yet
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910810
The first post will explain what we think we've found. You can help if you like. Right now we need to confirm that we have access to the recovery image partition.
One Step Closer
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Anyone have an idea on how to back up the stock rom? I haven't seen anyone who has successfully done it with this phone yet
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Sovereign738111 and I worked on this yesterday and got the recovery, system, and bootloader images off of my phone and into a couple of files. Now we just need a developer to give them to...In the meantime I'm also reading up on how to build a custom ROM etc. so that I can get familiarized with it. That way I can possibly try it myself. I know how to compile my own regular Linux kernel and add packages and things of that nature, and looking at what I've seen so far, figuring this out for Android shouldn't be too difficult.
I don't have the Stellar but I would be willing to work on a ROM for you guys. If someone would give me the files I need, I'll gladly do it. Just need a couple of people to test also.
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Shawn said:
I don't have the Stellar but I would be willing to work on a ROM for you guys. If someone would give me the files I need, I'll gladly do it. Just need a couple of people to test also.
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ill flash whatever you get ready i wiped my recovery trying my hand at making one myself turns out not so easy
Is there a purely stock, rooted, fully functional rom for the Relay out there? I know how to use ADB and prefer doing so as opposed to odin and other methods. Not interested in CWM either. I just need root[for firewall and backup utility reasons] and will debloat manually after installation.
The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.
I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.
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The only method to root the Relay is by using a custom Recovery of some form and ODIN or heimdal. We can not use adb to flash a Relay, it does not have fastboot. ODIN or heimdall are used to flash a Samsung device.
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Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...
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I made a stock rooted, debloated rom. On the Relay, I think you will want to use heimdall (or Odin) to flash CWM. From there, you can root the stock rom or flash custom roms.
The other option would be finding a root exploit.
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Ya, not interested in heimdall, odin and CWM methods. Just looking for a purely stock rom with stock recovery, both in the rooted state.
Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.
lexluthermiester said:
Magamo, You are VERY wrong. I have used ADB to flash my relay from the original T-699UVLH1 to the rooted version. So using a "custom recovery" is most definately not the only way to do it. Perhaps you lack the knowledge to properly use ADB. And I just re-verified, The Relay does indeed have "fastboot". Your post was wrong on so many levels...
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I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.
@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I'm actually curious on this, I bought a relay months ago but was too busy to play with it much. I can't think of any way to root it solely with adb, are you attempting to push psneuter or some other program to root this way? I guess I just don't see it happening, but please tell as I'm a curious learner
Also how did you re-verify the relay has fastboot? I only know a handful of Samsung devices that have a bootloader capable of using fastboot and am shocked to know this phone does, can you please tell me how you were able to do this?
And for the record I'm not trying to instigate you I just don't see how anything you are saying works, maybe the kernel allows for a simple push of busybox and then you can push superuser into /system/apps after you mount it writeable, I don't see how but would really like to see this method, but mostly I would like to know how to use fastboot on this phone as it would open more possibilities. Did you need to flash a new bootloader to get it to work? If so where did you get it?
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I first learned how to root on my old LG C800[My Touch Q] here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752704
I ultimately decided that I didn't like the CWM parts and looked for a way to just push the ROM and recovery to the C800. Then looked up a tutorial on how to use ADB properly[can't remember were that was] because of problems with the C800 recovery and discovered in said process, that MOST[dare I say all?] Android phones have a fastboot mode as it is part of the recovery runtime mode. This includes Samsung devices. After finally successfully installing a rooted stock recovery on the C800 I discovered the problem I was having with it was not something I could fix as it was software problem on LG's side[headphone volume issue]. Got rid of it and bought a Relay.
After finding a few different methods rooting the Relay, I decided to use the ADB method I already knew would work. I downloaded a stock rooted ROM[UVLH1, found here on XDA] and painlessly installed it using more or less same methods and procedures that were used on the C800. Installing the recovery was equally as painless. I have had zero problems with the Relay and love it. Have been curious about the update to JB though and have been looking for the aforementioned purely stock rooted ROM. Thing is I like and use a few of T-mobile's preinstalled apps so a debloated ROM is useless to me. I know which software to remove[CarrierIQ for a start] and which to freeze and prefer to do so on my own. So Gee One's rooted ROM doesn't have what's needed. I can fully value and appreciate his work though.
To answer one of your questions directly, I did not use a new bootloader. While CWM is a very handy tool, I don't ROM switch enough and haven't changed the ROM on this Relay since getting the rooted UVLH1 on it.
As for the "instigate" remark, I think the word you likely were looking for is "provoke". You are asking honest questions presented in a lucid and civilized fashion. My response to "Magamo" was invoked because he/she/it came off as a complete dolt and posting woefully inaccurate information, which not only does a dis-service to anyone reading this post, but makes himself look like a monkey diddling football.
Magamo said:
I'm not really certain what you are trying to prove here. If you have a better way, then post your steps so that we all might learn from your awesome knowledge, oh great one. Meanwhile, I'll stick to doing things the proven way for our phone that doesn't involve things that have been unproven, and risky. More than likely, the only way you'll be able to root the relay using ADB only, is by having a modified kernel installed, which... Means you will have had to have rooted the phone already. So you're talking yourself into a catch 22 already. But please, post your process. I'd love to verify the veracity of this.
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Not trying prove anything. And it's not MY "awesome knowledge". ADB was created by, let's think.... OH ya - Google, for use on and for the Android platform. As for your proven/unproven comments, can you be any more misinformed? I've rooted 2 of my own personal phones and dozens of others for family, friends and coworkers, all using ADB. Hmmm.... Your above statement only proves you don't understand or know how to use ADB properly[if at all]. Here's a great idea for you, read a tutorial about how to use ADB and verify it yourself.
And FYI, I did read your message before you edited it, and if this is the kind of help you have to offer on regular basis, kindly DON'T in future. You have my sincerest thanks!
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Well if you can root via adb, then just flash back to 4.1.2 and root it.
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I simply used ADB to flash a pre-rooted ROM[UVLH1] to the Relay. I'm currently on 4.0.4 and would like to try 4.1.2, but need a few things you seem to have removed from the ROM you posted. If you happened to have a stock + rooted ROM, could you post it? And if you do would you all like me to post a step by step for installing it using ADB?
There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.
@lexluthermiester
I'm not seeing where this hostility toward Magamo is coming from, I'm sure he knows how to use adb as he appears to be on team apex who devs for this phone. But I still am not sure how you were able to root your relay just with adb, I guess I just wasn't able to find the method you used looking through the mytouch q thread. Again not trying to instigate or rather provoke you but could you lay it out for me, just not wrapping my head around this
And also I only know of three or so Samsung devices with fastboot capabilities, all of which are nexus devices, can you explain how to get into fastboot, this would be super cool to me, as for answering your question on stock jellybean ROM can you not just update your phone via ota or did your root method break this, thanks
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gee one said:
There is a stock mc5 rom that has all the stuff that I took out. You could use that to add back in the pieces that I took out of my version. I think you might need simg2img to convert the stock system to an ext4 img file that can be loop mounted,
I think the http://samsung-updates.com/ site should have the JB rom.
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I've posted a stock MC5 Image that's been run through simg2img on the Stock ROM thread. It's in update.zip form, it also contains a boot.img simply unzip that, and there you go. I've also posted a stock recovery in the same post.
And lexluther, you still haven't posted the steps you took. I'm still quite interested in verifying the veracity of this, considering that the stock image and kernel has adb root access disabled, so how did you enable fastboot, especially since as we all on TeamApexQ who have disassembled both the software and hardware of the relay never found a way to, hence my posts. Instead of being insulting, confrontational and provocative with me, how about you just be rational and helpful, hmmm? Saying you did it on a completely different phone by a different manufacturer is ... less than helpful.
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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Sorry mate, I would have if I'd ever seen this message. Sadly I don't have the Relay anymore, battery popped and killed the phone with it. If memory serves you needed to have a stock rom[before the update] and then pushed the rooted rom to it through adb, then letting it update itself that way, but I'm not sure as it's been so long.
demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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You may also wish to check out this thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256821
demkantor said:
@lexluthermiester
I know you confirmed once and then reconfirmed but I'm still not seeing any fastboot option for this phone, maybe you could help me out on this
And I feel I'm well versed in adb but I still can't find a wat to root this phone without a custom kernel or recovery, I would really like to know how. Are you sure you can't just write out these steps quick for me, thanks again
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And/Or this one;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2528752