I just read an article about HTC making the decision to stop making low end phones and work on good high quality phones....finally we may see something very good start to come from HTC .
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...image/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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ddizzy81 said:
I just read an article about HTC making the decision to stop making low end phones and work on good high quality phones....finally we may see something very good start to come from HTC .
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...image/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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This doesn't make sense... They're releasing the Desire C, Desire VT next month and those are SINGLE core phones with Sense 4. (I'm really pissed about this.)
Lol, didn't HTC also say this last year? And now they're releasing the Desire C. HTC seem to have no idea which direction they want to go in
I guess this is the direction they to take. And their plans for the near future. I'm sure they wouldnt just cancel the release of already announced phones I'm guessing this is for here on out.
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It may be single core but it doesn't necessarily mean its worse. You gotta understand from HTC's point of view, business aspect. If you want to control the market, or atleast increase the total share, you should make phones according to the different pay grades, social status. Take the one S for example. It's a dual core but runs the sense 4. Sensation is dual core but its hardware capabilities is limited. (According to HTC)
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It may be single core but it doesn't necessarily mean its worse. You gotta understand from HTC's point of view, business aspect. If you want to control the market, or atleast increase the total share, you should make phones according to the different pay grades, social status. Take the one S for example. It's a dual core but runs the sense 4. Sensation is dual core but its hardware capabilities is limited. (According to HTC)
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And how about this new phones with single core:
HTC Desire VT
HTC Desire VC
HTC Desire V
HTC Desire C
That will comes with Sense 4
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If you want to control the market, or atleast increase the total share, you should make phones according to the different pay grades, social status.
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Yes, this is why Apple sells so few units.
Leemur89 said:
It may be single core but it doesn't necessarily mean its worse. You gotta understand from HTC's point of view, business aspect. If you want to control the market, or atleast increase the total share, you should make phones according to the different pay grades, social status. Take the one S for example. It's a dual core but runs the sense 4. Sensation is dual core but its hardware capabilities is limited. (According to HTC)
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Yeah, now they'll ship S3 powered One S's (256mb of less ram make a real difference?)... they are doing exactly what they said they wont do. And then they wonder Why are sales so bad?
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I got a great review between SGS2 and HTC Sensation. Guys you will love it. Thanks to the author.
Link:-
http://www.smartphonegurus.com/forums/topic/13554-mega-review-htc-sensation-v-samsung-galaxy-sii/
This was a seriously in-depth review and the reviewer analysis seemed to do a great job. Thanks for the link.
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Good review. I wish I could test one out myself..
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Wait what? This is new information. If it's true, then why the heck is that ROM on my phone?
Thanks, very thorough review.
What a load of biased ****. Sorry Sensation brotherhood but your blind if you can't see the straight up favoritism towards the Sensation. In the categories where the GSII wins, he makes up some excuse like, "The GSII is faster because its running on a final release but HTC released the Sensation on a pre-release ROM." Ill be the first to say that I love my camera on my Sensation and that its better than my G2X but if you take the time to fiddle with some settings, the GSII camera is better. Especially during low light conditions.
I know most Sensation owners are going GaGa over this review but I'm not affraid to say it SUCKED. There is nothing I hate more than biased reviews. Especially when someone clearly wastes a **** load of there time to come to a false conclusion. Bottom line. Samsung is innovating with its hardware accelerated browsing and fast ass Exynos chip while HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use.
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What a load of biased ****.
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It's fine that he likes the Sensation better, other people do too. But if you're biased going in, don't pretend to be objective. To JR's point, it's very transparent. There were things that he originally stated about the SGS2 that weren't factual. The writer came back to the SGS2 forum and apologized because he posted a link there a couple of weeks ago and his inaccuracies were pointed out. I didn't reread the article to see if he updated it. If it were just one guy's opinion, and he declared that, fine. It would be like any of us sharing our personal opinions. But to set the comparison up as a detailed semi-professional test and reach some of the conclusions he did, not very credible. And with his constant interjection of his personal opinion, I wouldn't have found him or the article any more credible even if he deemed the SGS2 the winner.
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It's fine that he likes the Sensation better, other people do too. But if you're biased going in, don't pretend to be objective. To JR's point, it's very transparent. There were things that he originally stated about the SGS2 that weren't factual. The writer came back to the SGS2 forum and apologized because he posted a link there a couple of weeks ago and his inaccuracies were pointed out. I didn't reread the article to see if he updated it. If it were just one guy's opinion, and he declared that, fine. It would be like any of us sharing our personal opinions. But to set the comparison up as a detailed semi-professional test and reach some of the conclusions he did, not very credible. And with his constant interjection of his personal opinion, I wouldn't have found him or the article any more credible even if he deemed the SGS2 the winner.
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****, I'm a Sensation owner and didn't find it credible.
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I have the Sensation now and not the SGS2. I would have read all that before release day in the US but I'm happy with my S4G and can't mess with that damn novel.
That review is from June which is probably why they said it was a pre-release ROM. It's probably a review unit they send all around.
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I have the Sensation now and not the SGS2. I would have read all that before release day in the US but I'm happy with my S4G and can't mess with that damn novel.
That review is from June which is probably why they said it was a pre-release ROM. It's probably a review unit they send all around.
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It still feels like a pre-release ROM. Does it not? Last time I checked, Sense is anything but smooth. I had to throw LP and ADW on the Sensation to make it feel like a dual core device.
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My sensation feels smooth even before the ota update. I did come from a windows mobile.
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Samsung is innovating with its hardware accelerated browsing and fast ass Exynos chip while HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use.
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Thank for your comments. For your better understanding HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with htc is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
So, saying HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use is not true. SGS2 is good as well as the HTC Sensation sometimes sensation is better. When HTC unlocked its boot-loader we all will see. Stay tuned without any bad comments.
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Thank for your comments. For your better understanding HTC chip-set of 1.2 dual core and andreno 220 is far more better that SGS2's 1.2 dual core and 2008's Mali-400 chip-set. I used both the handsets and now using HTC Sensation after SGS2.
The main problem with htc is it's locked boot-loader and it's stock rom which is really not ready to use the full power.. The power is not equally distributed. Benchmark is not everything as sensation has issues with sense 3.0 and better pixels than the SGS2. Below is some link where you can understand the whole technical issues.
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-adreno-220-gpu/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
So, saying HTC is releasing phones clearly not ready for mainstream use is not true. SGS2 is good as well as the HTC Sensation sometimes sensation is better. When HTC unlocked its boot-loader we all will see. Stay tuned without any bad comments.
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Is not FAR more better. Samsung always has some of the best CPUs and GPUs in the mobile market which is why all there devices are always at the top in benchmarks. Bottom line. The GSII is more responsive than our Sensation.
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Is not FAR more better. Samsung always has some of the best CPUs and GPUs in the mobile market which is why all there devices are always at the top in benchmarks. Bottom line. The GSII is more responsive than our Sensation.
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Do you own a SGS2? Exactly how much more responsive is it in real world use from your personal experience? Right now to own one in the US you have to pay 2-3x the price of owning a Sensation, go without a US warranty, and use ATT's network. Or you could move to another country to own it. Is it that much more responsive?
Being theoretically better, having better benchmark numbers , or marginal real world responsiveness isn't the "bottom line" for everyone.
Now i wonder why all the ruckus over the gs2 seems like its not better in real life use. Only better on paper. I'm happy with what i got no problems no worries this phone fast enough for me .
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Samnada i agree the phone is useless in the us so why even compare . Is it worth 700 dollars to get a better quadrant score and to take uglier pictures. Samsung has beautiful screens but are made to damn cheap .
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Do you own a SGS2? Exactly how much more responsive is it in real world use from your personal experience? Right now to own one in the US you have to pay 2-3x the price of owning a Sensation, go without a US warranty, and use ATT's network. Or you could move to another country to own it. Is it that much more responsive?
Being theoretically better, having better benchmark numbers , or marginal real world responsiveness isn't the "bottom line" for everyone.
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No I do not own a GSII for one reason. I refuse to go without 3G and I refuse to give ATT my money. I could care less about the cost of the phone as it would be cheaper than the 2 phones combined I've purchased in the past 2 months. The Sensation and the G2X which I purchased off contract. I have 2 friends that are in ATT and use the GSII. I have played all the games I play on the Sensation on their GSII and the games run smoother on it. I don't doubt that the Adreno 220 is powerful enough to run all my games smoothly but I'm getting sick and tired of HTC releasing their products with half ass drivers.
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Samnada i agree the phone is useless in the us so why even compare . Is it worth 700 dollars to get a better quadrant score and to take uglier pictures. Samsung has beautiful screens but are made to damn cheap .
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You must not know what your talking about if you think it takes uglier pictures. It actually has a nicer camera than the Sensation and this reviewer stated so after he found out what settings to change. Yes the Sensation takes better pictures when both are on default settings but the GSII probably has the nicest camera on a phone after you play around with the settings. Not to mention its superior low light performance.
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GOD DAMN IT! The HTC has given me drugs called "HTC Sense" and "Beats Audio"
I am using my Desire Z rooted running on sense 3.5 OCed to 1.5 GHz
Then now the HTC has released the HTC Sensation XL
I want the Rezound at first, but unfortunately I live in HK and Rezound in a CDMA phone available in the US (DAMN Verizon they took rezound from my area)
Now I can't decide whether I should I change my device from desire z to sensation xl
The XL do have an appealing large monitor and I want one with a large monitor, but the screen res is the same as the DZ(darn disappointing )
The processor is preset at 1.5 GHz in the xl but I can OC to 1.5 GHz on my DZ too(after buffing with chain fire 3D same quadrant score as xl or even higher)
The second thing that disappointed me is the SD Card slot
I know I don't use much storage space (I only used 3GB on my micro sd with loads music and gameloft game data packs)but without a sd card slot, the sensation xl don't sound appealing enough = =
Well the battery seemed a bit blarger in xl (1600MaH) and I am pretty confident about the battery life on xl (single core)
Well so far I think that the dz is really a great phone with a freaking keyboard XD
but the xl can compensate with the large screen though
The main reason I wanted to upgrade is becuz of the RAM, though from 512MB to 768MB isn't much, but because unlike the sensation and XE, the xl only have a single core, with uses less ram as only one unit of GPU need the ram supply(I heard that the XE have only 200MB~ after boot, and xl have 300MB~)
You may ask why not XE? Becuz I don't need dual core(a bit too much for me and the battery life seems a bit at a disadvantage) and I want sense 3.5(tell me if the XE gets an update with sense 3.5) and thats all
I hope someone can tell me
1.should I change, if no, what would you recommend
2.whether XE will have sense 3.5
3.Is the SLCD Monitor on sensation xl still sharp or blurry?
Hope someone can answer me Thx guys
God is pissed...
*ins>rt sig here*
What do you mean by pissed?
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get the sensation xe, it does not have as larger screen but it has sense 3.5 on custom ROM, dual core. XL is only single core. also xe has more storage as it can have up to 32GB sd card whereas xl is non-expandable
Wait. Don't get the sensation. Wait for the new phones coming out, or maybe the vivid.
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I heard that HTC didn't code Sensation's CPU's software correctly , causing hangs .
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Yep, the sensation's and xe's dual core are both 1st gen so the code are not very well developed yet.
BTW, the vivid is only available in the US if I am not wrong, so there's no vivid in hk, sad but true LOL
Well I think I'll wait for HTC edge's release and continue playing with my DZ for a moment
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Wait CES and MWC - there sure will be many new phones.
And Desire Z still is a wonderful phone. Nothing from HTC is worth upgrade yet.
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Wait CES and MWC - there sure will be many new phones.
And Desire Z still is a wonderful phone. Nothing from HTC is worth upgrade yet.
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Thx for your advice dude
I'm waiting for a 720p screen on a HTC GSM smartphone before upgrading.
HTC Edge have one
Hi so I have an htc amaze but the development is soooooo slow that i was wondering if its worth it for the slight downgrade to sensation? what should i expect if i make the switch?
U should expect the best development for a phone uve ever used
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I would go for the Sensation. I just had one, and I kinda miss the massive amount of devs. Although I love my S3, the sensation was a great phone.
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Hi so I have an htc amaze but the development is soooooo slow that i was wondering if its worth it for the slight downgrade to sensation? what should i expect if i make the switch?
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do a search, the question has been asked multiple times...
Sensation all the way. I also had a Amaze, gave it back next day contiuned using my Sensation. The Sensation looks better, a lot more support.
The only difference between the Amaze and Sensation would be the 768MB vs 1GB ram, the camera, and the CPU clock differences which doesn't matter anymore because of the overclockable kernels that we have.
Sensation has decent development, but I would just wait for a worthwhile upgrade if I already had an Amaze.
SGS3 is good, but lack of future LTE support on T-Mo just turns me off. Hence waiting.
Where do you live and how fast is your downstream usually? In NYC, there's a big difference between the Sensation and one of the hspa+42 devices like the Amaze/OneS/SGS2/3.
Understand that the Sensation is only a hspa14 device. I see 2-4mbps down usually, seeing 6 or so if in rare areas, and 8-9 in jersey on the way to the airport.
I haven't personally owned a hspa+42 device yet but using them a few times, the lowest speed I've seen is about the fastest I've seen on the Sensation.
Unless you're somehow able to trade down and pocket $50 I wouldn't do it.
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You can rock with the Sensation on XDA!
HTC sensations
As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
HTC Sensation ? Any thoughts on the popularity of this or similar HTCs ?
I'm thinking I should get a recent HTC phone with a Broadcom FM/combo chip.
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When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
Thoughts ? Thanks !
mikereidis said:
As I posted here on my Spirit FM app thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30101271&postcount=4291
When I get a new device for testing my app, I try to make sure it's popular and/or a good representative of a "class of similar devices" that likely run similar ROMs and have similar hardware.
I'm trying to figure out if I should get a Sensation, or if there is some similar HTC device that is even more popular or more representative. I have the two OneX's but those use TI and Qualcomm FM/BT/WiFi combo chips, and I want the more common and popular Broadcom, ideally the BCM4330 or later/similar chips.
Similar audio chips/systems would be good too.
A device that will get an official ICS update would be even better, but AFAICT we don't know about that yet. HTC really annoyed me with the Desire HD broken promise.
I see half-broken units good enough for my use on EBay in the $150 area...
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Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.
The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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malybru said:
Hi,
I would say the Sensation is an extremely popular phone,with good current support from a variety of Developers.
Even as people move on to other phones,others are buying up the second hand phones.
So, you would not be short of customers here.
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Thanks. I try to estimate popularity by numbers of forum posts or views.
"Plain" Sensation seems pretty good, but Evo 3D seems even higher, especially for the Sprint CDMA version.
Always seems to be this issue of variants, CDMA/GSM and XE/XL etc. which can make for a whole different phone development wise.
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The other very popular phone here in Germany is the Sensation XL and the Sensation is not very popular here in Germany
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Germany is my best market, per capita.
But unfortunately my "post count" check on the forums isn't anywhere near comparable.
Of course it came out later (right?) but I'm sure total numbers are still much higher.
And I prefer getting older phones that are cheaper on EBay.
Android "fragmentation" affects me greatly, due to the low level hardware specific requirements. So I have 15 different devices in my "test fleet" now. And I'm trying to be very picky when it comes to additions, as it's difficult to manage so many.
Guys,
HTC, the company that gave us the original xda series, the T-mo G1, Nexus One, Evo and other great phones is in dire financial straits.
They're on a downward spin for the last two quarters, and while they might not be in danger yet, analysts reckon that soon, they will.
HTC devices have always had the best build quality and better than normal specs, and as a company, I hold a lot of regard for them, based on my experiences with the HTC Touch, the Nexus One and the Sensation.
I hope this thread won't get locked/deleted by a mod. I don't know if there are rules prohibiting such threads as mine, but I'm just trying to grt my opinion out there.
This promotional video by HTC reminded me of all I love about them:
http://youtu.be/fWDHYqBSjQg
HTC continues to produce some of the best devices on the market, with the Droid DNA/HTC DLX being the latest of those.
I request any xda member/developer looking to buy a new device to consider buying HTC.
More information on HTC's financial woes:
http://bgr.com/2012/11/06/htc-earnings-analysis-october-2012/
http://bgr.com/2012/11/08/smartphone-market-share-q3-2012/
http://bgr.com/2012/08/07/htc-q3-2012-earnings-guidance-market-cap/
No. Until they put bigger batteries and/ or removable batteries on their phones (and get rid of Sense) , I'll always look away. Its time to move on.
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Sensation is my last HTC device unless HTC improve their relations with developers, they have started encrypting RUU now which mean no ports, no developments for older phones unless this can be cracked. Also HTC update policy stinks...
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Jonny said:
Sensation is my last HTC device unless HTC improve their relations with developers, they have started encrypting RUU now which mean no ports, no developments for older phones unless this can be cracked. Also HTC update policy stinks...
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Yeah, I heard about the encryption.
You'd think a company that's in dire straits would do all it could to improve relations with devs...
Like it did in it's heyday in 2011...
Though Droid DNA development seems to be off to a nice start...
They've already leaked a few exploits, and all the devs stuck on Verizon are migrating from the Incredible to the DNA...
Quite a few sponsored-ish feeling reviews etc on that board...
So maybe they are working to correct their ways... only time can tell.
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No. Until they put bigger batteries and/ or removable batteries on their phones (and get rid of Sense) , I'll always look away. Its time to move on.
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Totally agree with you about the batteries bit...
And the Sense bit too... Sense makes no sense, but nobody matches HTC build quality, and we can always flash an alternative like CM, AOKP or PA to be Sense-free...