Now is this just me? or on ICS roms does the screen brightness appear to fade from top to bottom, where the bottom of the screen seems slightly brighter than the top. Now I've noticed this on both sense and asop so the common factor is ICS.
Is it meant to look like this? Or is it kernel related as I'm aware most ICS roms share common kernels at the moment. I tend to use dark themes and wallpapers so I believe it's more visible.
Now this doesn't happen to me on GB roms or my daily endymion so it's not device related.
Anyone? Or am I just imagining it?
It's quite often late at night when I flash ics and my old (yes that excuse again Amit ) tired eyes might be just seeing things
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Me having weak eyes can confirm that I don't see any such things...
May be you are holding your phone tilted, so the bottom is close to you
Swyped from my Desire S waiting for Kernel 3, WAKE UP HTC
Additionally, the ics notification bar is completely black and you are maybe using the sense 4x1 clock, which has dark background too. Those factors might cause the brighter-on-bottom effect
Edit: ics also adds some shadows to your wallpaper at the bottom and at the top, you could deactivate them and see if something changes with your perception
Sent by my fingers to your head.
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Now is this just me? or on ICS roms does the screen brightness appear to fade from top to bottom, where the bottom of the screen seems slightly brighter than the top. Now I've noticed this on both sense and asop so the common factor is ICS.
Is it meant to look like this? Or is it kernel related as I'm aware most ICS roms share common kernels at the moment. I tend to use dark themes and wallpapers so I believe it's more visible.
Now this doesn't happen to me on GB roms or my daily endymion so it's not device related.
Anyone? Or am I just imagining it?
It's quite often late at night when I flash ics and my old (yes that excuse again Amit ) tired eyes might be just seeing things
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Ah! the tired eyes again!
@ben - are you sure the brightness is because of a gradient on the screen, or is it because our very bright row of capacitive keys sits just below the screen? That could be a confounding factor... Try getting the button backlights to switch off, and then see if the gradient persists. IDK if such an option exists, because i haven't used an ICS ROM for quite some time now... but for this test of hypothesis to work, just covering the keys won't work. You'll have to get em to switch off, so that no light escapes upwards into the screen. If you look carelully by tilting the phone top end towards you, you'll notice that light from the 4 keys is distinctly visible from the bottom of the screen (they share the same digitizer - glass pane, remember)
I know we're being very pushy here, but in the absence of a well established answer, theories are all we got, mate. This is mine.
Nope, my screen seems to be equally bright from top to bottom, no differences. I highly doubt a kernel could do something like that, so even if it is there (most probably it isn't ), it's probably an ICS thing.
@ben - I flashed the latest AOKP port (Blindice) this morning and finally understood what you were asking. The screen looks brighter towards the bottom on AOSP ICS - I agree with you. It is by design as far as I can tell. The background is set as such - so it is neither your tired eyes (if anything, they're extra sharp, for picking up stuff like this) nor my very far-fetched light bleed theory - it's just plain and simple ICS nature.
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@ben - I flashed the latest AOKP port (Blindice) this morning and finally understood what you were asking. The screen looks brighter towards the bottom on AOSP ICS - I agree with you. It is by design as far as I can tell. The background is set as such - so it is neither your tired eyes (if anything, they're extra sharp, for picking up stuff like this) nor my very far-fetched light bleed theory - it's just plain and simple ICS nature.
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And there's me thinking that it was there was a conspiracy and you were all plotting against me
Thank you
PS what did you think of the latest blind ICE, downloaded it late last night but was asleep before flash, planned for after break fast
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And there's me thinking that it was there was a conspiracy and you were all plotting against me
Thank you
PS what did you think of the latest blind ICE, downloaded it late last night but was asleep before flash, planned for after break fast
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Honestly speaking ben - I expected more. It's nice and all, being ICS and all that glazz, but remember its running on a glued together kernel. Nowhere near as intuitive and magical as Endy, and nowhere nearly as faast as reaper. So you're left hanging in a place that gives you neither the satisfaction of Sense nor the blaze of AOSP. In time, it will course-correct eventually. But that time is still at least a month away AFTER we have a v3 kernel. I'm back on Endy, and revelling in every byte of the familiar but homely bloat it has. ICS still doesn't "fit"
Just my two cents.
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I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
wierd.. all the us phones suppose to come with samoled... all the same screen
could be your brightness setting, i have a gingerbread theme on my nexus one and on lower brightness the menu looks solid black, but on others you can see that it's transparent. also depends on the background as well.
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I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
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Yup. You'll find the tolerances for the screens to be quite low. I've looked at and handled quite a few NS and the screens have been different on every one of them.
As long as your screen doesn't have a yellow tint whilst auto brightness is enabled, you're good.
I remember reading somewhere that some Nexus S phones will ship with SLCD screens instead.
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I remember reading somewhere that some Nexus S phones will ship with SLCD screens instead.
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Yeh that will be for the Russian and maybe other markets if/when they launch there early next year.
I had to swap out my second NS for the screen. The last one had a real bad yellow tint to it. When put side by side the new one looked great. Typical issues I suppose. Its interesting to have these little issues with the phone when the Galaxy S line as a whole has been solid aside from reports of GPS issues.
csmall said:
I exchanged my Nexus S for a new one. One thing I have noticed so far is that the blacks don't seem AS dark on the new one as they did on the previous one.
For example, pressing menu from the main screen you get that little popup of black options like wallpaper, system etc...
On my previous device these options were very dark black, on the new one they are somewhat transparent yet still black. Hard to explain I guess but it's a noticeable difference between the too.
I'm not totally sure yet but I think the whites are whiter also.
I wonder which of the phones has the intended look... the dark black or the somewhat transparent black.
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Have you tried adjusting the brightness level on the display? Menu/Settings/Display
I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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I am now on Nexus #4, serious issues with first 3. So #4 looks totally different. The colors are washed out and the UI seems weird. Such as when hitting the bottom of s scrollable screen, the yellow highlights aren't smooth but sorta jagged at the top. The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green. The stock nexus wallpaper also seems a bit weird up in yhr right corner. I'm running 2.3.4 but I'm almost certain so were the others since they were all purchased with s week. Please leave me some feedback guys, I'm begging ya. I can't see myself walking into the store to exchangeyet again. Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys.
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Well Which carrier? start there...did you root it..have u added a rom??
ALSO my NEXUS HAS GIVEN ME SERIOUS PROBLEMS.. WHICH makes my phone not functional. my problem is that the DATA connectivity has lost completely can brows or any simple thing that requires data.. tried numerous things, such as updating my profile which Fails, PRL, which fails, Every ## method i can think of. I also tried going back to stock VIA ADB... still no data, its as if i had a bad activation...AND SPRINT TECH are totally of no use..they cant even realize that the # methods are different..I am wondering if i need to enter anything in the settings??searched and searched google and i just think that the support on the device is so poor that google almost fails to recognize the problems in actual writing...Now im stuck wondering if i should go back to my EVO again!!!
I'm on sprint too and also wondering if I want me evo back. I do like the phone though and pure Google is awesome. I'm nit one of those people who just looks to break balls and get return after return simply because I'm able to. I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120. I can't imagine walking back into the store for my 5th nexus. They also said after 3 there not allowed to do exchanges for the same device, its time to get into a new one. I have read all the issues that the last couple of updates has brought to the color profile of the Nexus but I'm pretty sure the others were all on the same software. Can anyone confirm when 2.3.4 rolled out ota?
The icons at the top of the display (wifi icon, 4g icon, etc) are green. I'm almost positive the first 3 had white highlight not green.
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They've always been green when you have a signal ... white while you are acquiring a signal.
"Oh and the keyboard is now two tones of grey which again I never noticed on the first 3. The actual letter keys are lighter grey than the function keys."
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Yep, always been this way. You probably didn't notice because of the incorrect colour space ...
"The colors are washed out"
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If you've read the forums you'll know this is a divisive point: some think the over-saturated purple-heavy colour space used prior to 2.3 is better looking, and some think that the correct colour space is, of course, correct. You make your own mind up. Read the other threads on the topic.
OK so after a bit more time with the phone here's what I'm finding.
I can't remember what software version the first batch of nexus units had but this one is running 2.3.4. I've read that one if the updates has totally screwed up the colors on the Nexus S but this seems to have been one of the updates the TMO version got, I think the ns4g shipped with 2.3.4. Still need someone to confirm this because if my first 3 were running earlier software then its possible that's why this one looks very different. It doesn't seem to be s faulty display because its really only the UI that's affected. Photos sbd such do not look washed out. When outside the deep dark blacks and vibrant colors come back, head indoors and the washed out display is very noticeable. Could this be an issue with the auto brightness?? I could really use some help here guys, especially if someone knows for sure if yhr Sprint version has been updated to 2.3.4 or if it shipped with 2.3.5. Thanks
Most of your questions are found by Googling or searching in the forums, but ill tell you what I know.
The green means that you are synced. White means that you are connected to internet but you're not synced ie you get no Google services. Gtalk, email, etc etc. You want it to be green.
As mentioned above, the washed out colors are from 2.3.3 and on. I think they changed the colors a little bit in 2.3.4 but they will still look "washed out" to someone who came straight off 2.3.2 and before.
Also, the washed out was not tmo specific. It was changed in the 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 OS which means that anyone with those versions will see this. Nexus s is a pure Google phone so the updates are all the same, not network specific.
If being in the sun makes the screen brighter or changes how your screen looks, then yes, that is the auto brightness trying to save you battery life. It does the same to me too. It's annoying I know because sometimes on cloudy days it doesn't brighten all the way but I still can't see the screen as clearly. You can change the brightness of the screen though.
Hope this helps.
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I've also had to purchase a new $30 zagg with each exchange so I'm out an additional $120.
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Zaggs have a lifetime warranty and even if you have to return your phone, take the Zagg off first and then go to Zagg.com and go to support and get a replacement. They will charge you shipping($3 I think) and as long as you send the old one back in within 60 days you will incur no more charges. Returning your phone is one of the options covered under their lifetime warranty.
I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
Have you checked to see what type of screen you have? AUO or Sharp? Check out this thread
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I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
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Yes, I posted this a while back, the home screen icons ARE INDEED blurry, (and the bottom bar has jagged edges, and the side of the screen has a 4 pixel black bar that problably noone has noticed(but I just found at it was because my sharp screen has a 544*960 resolution, maybe the auo has 540?)) you are not insane, I suppose sence 3,0 wasnt well finished to match the resolution.
Anyone in doubt, add an icon in the home screen, and look at that same icon in the drawer or inside a folder, MUCH SHARPER
The bottom bar being all jagged does bother me at times, but it's no big deal. No blurryness of icons for me. I have a Sharp panel.
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The bottom bar being all jagged does bother me at times, but it's no big deal. No blurryness of icons for me. I have a Sharp panel.
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I have shqrp oanel too, i had 4 sensations, all had blurry icons and so do you and every one else, the blurryness is very very imperceptible, it is something that most people wontnotice. But you do sligbtlykotice it when you compare a homescreen icon with the same onein theapp drawer. Try it with the "people" app,again its very faint, be happy you dontse it
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I have shqrp oanel too, i had 4 sensations, all had blurry icons and so do you and every one else, the blurryness is very very imperceptible, it is something that most people wontnotice. But you do sligbtlykotice it when you compare a homescreen icon with the same onein theapp drawer. Try it with the "people" app,again its very faint, be happy you dontse it
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Haha I don't want to compare because it'll be another thing that's going to start bugging me and will deter me from enjoy the phone. Ignorance is bliss.
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Haha I don't want to compare because it'll be another thing that's going to start bugging me and will deter me from enjoy the phone. Ignorance is bliss.
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Hehe, when i got my first sensation, it is the first thing that I noticed, and i was the first one that bothered me, that and the jaggies.
Then i had to send it back 4 times for various hardware reasons, not, the very faint blur doesnt bother me at all, compared to the rest.
I also think that being software, it isnt a problem and can be fixed.
I too wish I didnt see that stuff lol, all my RL friends, relations, the whole world around me, dont seem to care about this kind of stuff. Except people here on XDA, do we have a desease lol?
My GF desire HD has one of her 4 capactive buttons, the menu one, spelling out mEnu with a capital e instead and the rest normal letters, that is the kind of crap that drives me mad lol
My worst pet peeve used to be dead pixels and scratches. now phones are Gorilla glass, and pixels are so small you have a hard time seeing them if they are dead., So lord all mighty decided to put dust, fuzzy speaker, and various other problems in my phone to make up for it.
schoolsux said:
I don't know if its just me, but the app icons @ the sence homescreen looks blurry, not sharp, NOT GOOD. The lockscreen and the app drawer icons look good & sharp but not in the homescreen for some reason. Plus, theres no black bar behind the icon label text, so its very hard to read the text when having a bright wallpaper.. not that its anything necessary, but it simply looks like ****. Pretty much any other launcher has sharp looking app icons and runs smooth, but I kinda want the Sence widgets etc.
Overall I think the phone UI isn't smooth for ****, I mean, my brothers Desire HD is way more smooth and is powered by a single core cpu (stock rom, no clock or root). Feels like I both hate and love the phone at the same time, HTC really need to shape the phone software up or back it goes!
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I've done a lot of comparing with icons on my homescreen and the icons in my app drawer and I see zero difference personally. Maybe something is going on with a portion of the panels.... As for the black box behind the text, HTC removed it in Sense 3.0 for some reason.
I'm coming from the Inspire 4G (US version of Desire HD) and the reason its so much smoother is because in Sense 2.0/2.1 there is a WHOLE lot less going on in the system compared to Sense 3.0. I personally deal with some lag also. I promise once we get S-OFF and we are able to flash custom ROMs, things will get a million times better. All the chefs and devs will tweak the stock ROM to fly on the Sensation and it will be a night and day difference once its perfected. We will get a lot of awesome devs coming to this phone for that specific reason .
My icons were blurry on Sense but ADW fixed everything as usual. HTC really needs to go back to the drawing board with Sense. I don't understand why everyone praises Sense so much. It has to much eye candy, can't change the **** icons and ITS SLOW!
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I've done a lot of comparing with icons on my homescreen and the icons in my app drawer and I see zero difference personally. Maybe something is going on with a portion of the panels.... As for the black box behind the text, HTC removed it in Sense 3.0 for some reason.
I'm coming from the Inspire 4G (US version of Desire HD) and the reason its so much smoother is because in Sense 2.0/2.1 there is a WHOLE lot less going on in the system compared to Sense 3.0. I personally deal with some lag also. I promise once we get S-OFF and we are able to flash custom ROMs, things will get a million times better. All the chefs and devs will tweak the stock ROM to fly on the Sensation and it will be a night and day difference once its perfected. We will get a lot of awesome devs coming to this phone for that specific reason .
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I personally strongly believe that you just dont see it (no insulting or anything), but it is there, i mean it really is not like its all blurry, but maybe recroped by a pixel line.
It is not hardware, the screen isnt a problem, it is just on the homescreen, which is why i KNOW every one has it, or...there are multiple sense version out there.
HTC just hurried sense 3,0 out and its obvious (to me anyway) but I dont mind it all that much now
Maybe it's just me, but after upgrading to 2.3.4...the icons on the home screen don't look blurry anymore. Can someone else check?
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I personally strongly believe that you just dont see it (no insulting or anything), but it is there, i mean it really is not like its all blurry, but maybe recroped by a pixel line.
It is not hardware, the screen isnt a problem, it is just on the homescreen, which is why i KNOW every one has it, or...there are multiple sense version out there.
HTC just hurried sense 3,0 out and its obvious (to me anyway) but I dont mind it all that much now
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Exactly, it's a sense problem, everyone has it, with some icons/colours it's a little difficult to spot, but it's always there, but I thought it was fixed with the 1.45, someone here mentioned that it did.
EDIT : and the above post seems to confirm it.
Think more along the lines of "slight soft focus" rather than blurry, I wonder if it's where they've pulled things over from previous sense versions and not rejigged it for 540x960
I have blurry icons and text too in desktop. Also that bottom bar doesnt have smooth border. This is Sense issue, because other launchers shows perfect fonts.
This is annoying too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYH4Y4zo4cM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e53S8hR1eg
Dude.. Get your eye sight checked by ophthalmologist... Not kidding...
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Dude.. Get your eye sight checked by ophthalmologist... Not kidding...
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Duuude, that bottom bar image in default theme is scaled wrong in Sensation, Sense 3.0, its fixed in 3.5. And dude, sensation has two differend screens, Acer and Sharp. Acer screen has these issues.
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Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
Livebyte said:
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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They are thinking more letters from the OCD types.
How long does anyone here keep a device? 6 months? a year? Does anyone really use this as a professional device for Photography or video work? Or just snapshots and video logs where all that can be fixed with SW. As long as they have replaceable batteries, and people can charge every night I don;t think battery life is a concern. The Note 2 battery life is insane for such a large phone. I have never used my spare. I was using it at about 4PM on my S2 previous to the Note.
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I'm not 100% sure but I think that it might be changeable. I've seen some of the same pictures show in both black and white.
Edit: or its a mixture of Black and white menus....
But either way.... easily changed.
Thats why you gain root and wait for a rom.
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I'm not 100% sure but I think that it might be changeable. I've seen some of the same pictures show in both black and white.
Edit: or its a mixture of Black and white menus....
But either way.... easily changed.
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Glad it's easily changed. But why did Samsung went to White?
I noticed the white menus too, and I really don't like it.
I hope it's switchable. And I hope when updates finally come to the S3 that they don't change over to white menus.
I usually just use custom ROMs, but I had considered going back to stock if there was an update.
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Livebyte said:
Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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But why does it matter to you since you're not getting the phone anyway?
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But why does it matter to you since you're not getting the phone anyway?
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Hey! Be nice.
This forum is open to all, if there getting the phone or not.
He's just posting what's troubling on the device.
Reviewers said:
Hey! Be nice.
This forum is open to all, if there getting the phone or not.
He's just posting what's troubling on the device.
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What is your problem? I wasn't being mean that was a simple question.
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Do you realize the menus are now all in white?
Are they mad?
AMOLED's have terrible white, and their whites are never accurate.
Do they want our screens to die faster or something?
There's a reason previous Touchwiz-es all have black menus.
An advantage to black menus is that AMOLED's use absolutely no power for black
and almost twice the power for whites compared to LCD's
So what the hell are they thinking?
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Things have changed a lot since the AMOLED display on the original Galaxy S. The OLED's last much longer, power efficiency is drastically improved and their screen tunings have also improved. And about accurate whites, that is simply not true. The Galaxy S3 had a more accurate white point than the HTC One according to DisplayMate's own tests, even with the S3's green push.
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Things have changed a lot since the AMOLED display on the original Galaxy S. The OLED's last much longer, power efficiency is drastically improved and their screen tunings have also improved. And about accurate whites, that is simply not true. The Galaxy S3 had a more accurate white point than the HTC One according to DisplayMate's own tests, even with the S3's green push.
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I hope so. In that case, I think Samsung believes its own display is efficient enough to have whites in their menus.
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The answer's hiding in plain sight.
That and S-600 should be 20% more efficient than the SGS3 and Octa potentially more so. If you want to worry about something the additional sensors, especially the one that allows the display to recognize something hovering over it, probably use more power than the white menus do. There's an option under power saving to turn off the sensing of the S Pen when it's not removed on the N2. The great thing about the white menus is that, in direct sunlight, it's a ton easier to read dark text on a white background.
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The answer's hiding in plain sight.
That and S-600 should be 20% more efficient than the SGS3 and Octa potentially more so. If you want to worry about something the additional sensors, especially the one that allows the display to recognize something hovering over it, probably use more power than the white menus do. There's an option under power saving to turn off the sensing of the S Pen when it's not removed on the N2. The great thing about the white menus is that, in direct sunlight, it's a ton easier to read dark text on a white background.
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Thanks. That cleared up a lot of my misunderstandings.
I will still have to see how it affects the burn-in issue of AMOLED's.
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I will still have to see how it affects the burn-in issue of AMOLED's.
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There are 100MM Galaxy devices of various forms that have been in people's hands for years. The percentage complaining about burn-in is I'd guess less than single digit percentages. So it can definitely happen but I'd guess that it's not happening in large volume based on average screen-on time or it's so subtle people don't even notice.
P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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ROFL HAHAHAHHA. that's messed up hahahha.
BarryH_GEG said:
There are 100MM Galaxy devices of various forms that have been in people's hands for years. The percentage complaining about burn-in is I'd guess less than single digit percentages. So it can definitely happen but I'd guess that it's not happening in large volume based on average screen-on time or it's so subtle people don't even notice.
P.S. - With your GIANT "One" signature you'll be viewed as a Palestinian in Jerusalem on the SGS4 forum.
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I like your perception of my sig. HAHAHAAAAA
Maybe I'll have both devices on my sig so people won't judge me because of my sig.
Livebyte said:
I like your perception of my sig. HAHAHAAAAA
Maybe I'll have both devices on my sig so people won't judge me because of my sig.
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We won't judge you, i won't. I just thought that Barry comment was hilarious, i didn't expect it
My god, even the leaked Lollipop beta is insanely fast (for TouchWiz, anyway xD).
But that UI color scheme is making me consider poking my eyes out.
Bright f***ing green/cyan and goddamn white in the dialer and the settings! What the s**t, Samsung?!? Let's not mention how much AMOLEDs can suffer when showing white for a prolonged time...
Learning to code or theme will take me months I don't have (unless I'm just dumb and it is actually a lot easier than that and will get flamed for being yet another damn n00b), but is there any easy way to theme the leaked Lollipop build in darker colors that don't gouge out the eyes?
sirobelec said:
My god, even the leaked Lollipop beta is insanely fast (for TouchWiz, anyway xD).
But that UI color scheme is making me consider poking my eyes out.
Bright f***ing green/cyan and goddamn white in the dialer and the settings! What the s**t, Samsung?!? Let's not mention how much AMOLEDs can suffer when showing white for a prolonged time...
Learning to code or theme will take me months I don't have (unless I'm just dumb and it is actually a lot easier than that and will get flamed for being yet another damn n00b), but is there any easy way to theme the leaked Lollipop build in darker colors that don't gouge out the eyes?
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One possibility is to invert the screen with root and the matching app. Have a look at the Play Store for that.
But to stay at your basic question. I also thought that, after installing Lollipop. Everything very bright and things. I thought my battery life would be very ugly, especially in comparison to CM, which I had as a previous ROM on my device. As a matter of fact, reality proved me wrong. Battery life is insane. Nearly two days under medium to heavy usage. That's okay. And to have some words about the AMOLED lifetime thingy... Maybe - and only maybe - the lifetime of single AMOLEDs will decrease, but that's the same your battery lifetime would decrease. Sooner or later your battery will die and so will your display. But neither in the period you have your phone, nor in a maybe following period of second possession. So don't waste your time thinking about that.
BTW you also don't have settings, phone app,... open and the screen on the whole day. :laugh:
Silberpfeil3110 said:
One possibility is to invert the screen with root and the matching app. Have a look at the Play Store for that.
But to stay at your basic question. I also thought that, after installing Lollipop. Everything very bright and things. I thought my battery life would be very ugly, especially in comparison to CM, which I had as a previous ROM on my device. As a matter of fact, reality proved me wrong. Battery life is insane. Nearly two days under medium to heavy usage. That's okay. And to have some words about the AMOLED lifetime thingy... Maybe - and only maybe - the lifetime of single AMOLEDs will decrease, but that's the same your battery lifetime would decrease. Sooner or later your battery will die and so will your display. But neither in the period you have your phone, nor in a maybe following period of second possession. So don't waste your time thinking about that.
BTW you also don't have settings, phone app,... open and the screen on the whole day. :laugh:
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It's still annoying. xD The phone looks like a control panel from some spaceship, but you turn it on, and all that green s**t hits you right in the optic nerve.
I know, I gotta be patient if I can't code, but still... xD
So you say an app can enforce the inverted colors on per app basis?
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It's still annoying. xD The phone looks like a control panel from some spaceship, but you turn it on, and all that green s**t hits you right in the optic nerve.
I know, I gotta be patient if I can't code, but still... xD
So you say an app can enforce the inverted colors on per app basis?
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As far as I know there are no apps, that would do that on a per-app basis. Only those that do it overall the whole OS, like it was implemented for some time in Gingerbread.
am not really bothered about the white background considering how much little time I spend in it.
You dont need root for inverted colors.... just go to setting/device/accessibility/vision and tick negative colors.
Done!
sirobelec said:
My god, even the leaked Lollipop beta is insanely fast (for TouchWiz, anyway xD).
But that UI color scheme is making me consider poking my eyes out.
Bright f***ing green/cyan and goddamn white in the dialer and the settings! What the s**t, Samsung?!? Let's not mention how much AMOLEDs can suffer when showing white for a prolonged time...
Learning to code or theme will take me months I don't have (unless I'm just dumb and it is actually a lot easier than that and will get flamed for being yet another damn n00b), but is there any easy way to theme the leaked Lollipop build in darker colors that don't gouge out the eyes?
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I think you have to ask it to Google.
Lollipop has been made white, Samsung is forced by user (that will complain for the "too-much-white" and also for the "white-is-better-so-i'm-not-buying") to implement it as-google-told...