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desire s = mini desire hd = a good idea?

Am I the only one who thinks that the desire is more closely related to the dhd than to the original desire?
Same type of body, same cpu and gpu, same form factor (no physical buttons...), same amount of ram.
Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
I do agree that it's not the ultimate mobile experience that everyone has been waiting for, but on the other hand: I don't think any company will be able to produce a phone that will be 'the best' for more than 3 months: they are already talking about quad-core cpus that will be 5 times as fast as the previous generation. So why should HTC try to do that with évery phone they produce?
If I see people are talking about 'never buying an HTC for the rest of my life' or shouting things like 'RIP HTC' then I think that they should take all this into consideration. I'm pretty sure that HTC will produce another 'flagship' in the near future that will be able to keep up with the best of the other brands.
This is just my modest opinion of course...

Htc is going to be like sh...y Nokia. The same phones in other boxes.
DesireHD, Incredible S, Desires ... all the same with minor differences.
And what to choose? Will there be one or two a flagship model, that I would really like to have ?

Obviously almost everyone is disappointed with the HTC's new range of devices, Maybe they thought Adreno 205 will suffice the lack of dual core CPU for gaming? Or they are just holding them back until there is enough demand for such devices? Just wait and see.
BTW HTC were never the best at hardware department, and they may still believe their Sense will actually "sell" these sub-par devices !

Id like toadd here,nokias r **** besides the 3310 of course
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Since I don't have an Android phone yet, I'm really pleased that HTC are at least doing little updates to their products just before I'm in a position to buy one.
But if I already had a Desire, I'd be fairly non-plussed. The Desire S is little more than a change of packaging, like when Sony Ericsson replaced the K800 with the K810.
The Incredible S might make a nice upgrade from a Desire, but it's still not a huge step up.

Your right there not even an amoled screen
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stevennekens said:
Actually I think that it has been a good idea of HTC to introduce this kind of device: many people are just scared of the big screen and similar size of devices such as the dhd, and the major flaw of the dhd, its mediocre battery life, has been improved by using a higher capacity battery. For people like myself - I'm using a topaz at the moment - it's actually a wonderful replacement.
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This. Different strokes for different folks. In the real world, longer battery life is always good.

I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!

szigor_g said:
I've bought one for my girlfriends. She likes it!
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[Q] HTC INCREDIBLE S or HTC SENSATION

I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation

Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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I say get the sensation! It has dual core and qhd. I am also upgrading from a htc touch HD. I was trying to decide between the desire s and the sensation and I figured if I am going to upgrade I might as well go with a dual core. I t is the future. So, I have made up my mind. I am getting the sensation end of the month or next month when the sim free unbranded handsets come out.

Malik828 said:
I really can't beloved the amount of people who are slagging off the IS because it can't be unlocked yet.
DON'T BUY A PHONE EXPECTING THE DEV SCENE TO BE HUGE
The IS is a great phone, and if custom ROM's are the be all and end all for you then its your own fault for not doing research before buying it. The are far, far to many people round here with an expectation that fantastic ROM's and exploits just appear out of thin air, the people that produce them work very hard, and don't owe you anything.
Why don't ppl do some research and try and help, rather than just twiddling your thumbs and moaning until it happens?
Back on topic, I haven't used the Sensation so I can't compare them both, but it is unlikely to be a huge seller so you probably wont find a huge amount of work for it, even if it is unlocked. I love the IS and have no complaints about the hardware at all, but I must admit the sensation is sexy and they do run similar software.
The only thing I would say is if you want durability with the IS, get a case. The phone is a little fragile against drops without one
So Guys Help me out here
I am stuck between Incredible S and Sensation cant decide which one should i buy, i am switching from Samsung Omnia and want to try Android, phone should be durable good camera good battery and should be fast enough to play games on it, i really like the customization on HTC but camera is good on Sensation
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Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.

redbullcat said:
Unlikely to be a huge seller? It's HTC's flagship phone, it'll be the best selling HTC phone of this quarter, I'd expect.
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Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.

Malik828 said:
Yes maybe you are right it is HTC flagship phone but before the sensation what was HTC flagship phone you guessed right it was the Incredible S so soon sensation is going to be long forgotten for the sole reason that EVO 3d is arriving sooner rather than later it only depends which is going to be a huge seller which is adopted by the huge dev community as it was due to devs that HTC had to back track on the decision of locking the bootloader
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Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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aim1126 said:
Well the sensation is coming out all over the world while the evo 3d is just coming out for sprint right now. The GSM version hasn't even been officially announced yet
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So ok you are right agree with you that it is going to be only for Sprint but for me iPhone 5 is what making me wait there are lots lots rumors it going to launch in September with ios 5 so that is going to be the benchmark for all phones Samsung galaxy s2 is not a bad phone either so it is very hard for me to choose as I do not want regrets after choosing one beast of a phone and another beast arrives around the corner ios 5 going to have notification and widgets so it could be the complete phone that awaits but can not wait too anxious to make the plunge it is going to be sensation or iPhone 5 if only it comes with larger display do not care for resolution
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10332007 said:
If you buy any piece of technology and expect it to be top of the line for long your not going to get far.
Every network is slightly different and the phones appeal differently. I will be going from my HD2 to the Sensation and I will love every minute of it until the next big one comes along that tickles my fancy 1 - 2 years down the road.
Find the phone that YOU want, that makes YOU grin and eagerly anticipate the release of and get it, enjoy it and use it until the next device comes along.
I personally do not want a 3d camera, hate the technology so the EVO 3d does not appeal to me. The Incredible S was incredible, and the Sensation will be for a short time until the next greatest thing comes along.
The community moves fast. People with the phones keep working and developting for them. The OS on my HD2 was dead before the phone released, yet there is still a good community supporting the device and I am not sorry I chose the phone at all.
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I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO

mazinya said:
I agree with you totally.
On a side note, You dont have to want the 3D. The phone's specs are better than the sensation and the 3D is just an added bonus IMO although im not sure how many ppl would be happy to carry a 170g phone in their pocket.
I wish they would have announced a GSM version though so the non US people would also have the option to choose between the sensation and the EVO
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Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php

samnada said:
Which EVO 3D specs are better than the Sensation? According to this they are very similar, although the EVO only has a 5MP camera.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d-3901.php
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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some

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Also 1 GB RAM vs 768 of the sensation and lets not forget the 1730 mAh battery the EVO has which is something im sure many would have liked the sensation to have also. Like i said, i think its just its weight and thickness might be an issue to some
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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.

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More RAM is better if you need more RAM. I haven't seen anyone so far say they've run out of RAM on the Sensation. 1GB is obviously more than 768Mb, but not so sure it's "better". Let's see what the EVO battery life is in use. It may need a larger, and as you say heavier, battery for the same run time. Heavier and thicker isn't better. For me 3D is nothing but a gimmick. I don't need even more viewing angle issues than the Sensation's LCD has. But we each have our own preferences.
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Im not sure, but perhaps more RAM could help with things moving more smoothly?
I also think the 3D is a gimmick, just saying that on paper it seems like the EVO has slightly better specs, thats all.

So I currently have a T-Mobile MyTouch 4G that I really like, I have Cyanogen Mod 7.0.3 running on it, and I get great battery life. I have some dust under the glass, I called and they said that they would happily exchange it, but that they don't have the MyTouch 4G and that they will "upgrade" me to the Samsung Galaxy S2 Looking at the forums it doesn't seem like there is much development for these phones. Should I tell Them that I want a different phone? or are there custom ROMS that I can run on the Galaxy S2 I really like the 16 or so hours of battery life I currently get, plus how fast the phone is.

Regardless, you prove my point that sensationalist (no pun intended) tech blogs stress the qualitative, not the factual. These blogs are composed of a bunch of guys who get together and tell you what they "feel" about a certain device, replete with brand loyalty bias and unrepresentative 'tests', which is why it is precisely the source of the rubbish "SAMOLED >>> LCD" claims in the first place.
Also, each device can implement the same screen 'technology' differently. The HD2 has a better screen than the G2 in terms of color accuracy (and certainly more than the Galaxy S 1's blue tint, pixelation/blur/colorwarping) and even outdoor visibility. And it wasn't even a SUPER lcd. The Sensation probably has a different screen
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2 good points (compared to desire). Visible in landscape mode in polarized sunglasses, good visibility outside. The rest of it is worse than desire slcd. Not sure about incredible s, but hope info helps you.

can someone tell me if incredible s also suffers from wifi signal loss much like the sensation? im seriously thinking of getting IS instead of sensation due to death grip issue... dual core phones can wait for now. thanks.

One S: totally a downgrade from XE! No longer an option..

Yes, it's fat. There, I said it, the Sensation XE is fat and it's heavy. The One S wins hands down there. I have small hands and the One S was easier to hold, more comfortable and it felt more "right"...
But apart from taking up pocket space, what do you actually use the most on a smartphone? It's a trick question.....it's the screen.
I can't understand WHY HTC put a pentile screen on the One S. Compare the screens and the One S is an obvious downgrade from the XE. I didn't think I would mind as much, but when trying out the phone it really REALLY annoyed me. Holding them up side by side, the XE wins hands down. It just looks better.
If we look away from the possibility that it's a supply issue, that there is a lack of better screens, this is yet again clearly a sign of HTC's bad decisions of late.
The only reason I can see for using the pentile screen on the One S, is to make it obvious for potential buyers in-store that the One X is the superior phone. Spec wise, it is across the board, we all know that. But in the shop and in daily use, the difference isn't that noticable. Coming from an iPhone, you won't notice that the One S has lower specs that the X in daily use. But a consumer holding up the S and X next to each other, they will clearly see that the X is better. I think, if the S had the same display as, most MOST (but not all) would choose the S because of the size and they wouldn't care as much about the sprec. So HTC but an inferior screen in so they wouldn't compete against themselves.
The X is too big for my hands, the S is the mainstream perfect size. For now, I'm sticking with the XE and next time, I might just get a Samsung. It's the only way I can show HTC, by how I use my money. Ranting here sure won't help hehe.
HTC need a reality check, like STUCK plummeting, important people getting fired, good staff going to Samsung.

Agreed. I owned a One S for a period of two days. Totally disappointed with the Screen, battery and functionality.
And I also agree, my XE wins hands down, and I was glad to be using it afterwards.
I have a friend who works in "A big Phone Retailer" who has never seen so many returns with the whole range.
HTC needs to change their strategy, because it's losing customers with the "ONE" range. I am one of them.
Regards to the OP.

I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.

kingston73 said:
I'm up for my tmo contract at the end of this year but I could get a discount on a new phone now and I'm definitely NOT going with the one S. I just don't see any benefit using it over the sensation. I'm hoping Tmo gets the GS 3 when it comes out but I'm not holding my breath with that since they were the last of the major us carriers to get the gs 2.
The other option is going with the elephant sized galaxy note, but I really don't think that's for me.
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Agreed, I dont see how any one can make use of such a big device on the daily basis.

my father is getting one in the mail on monday, i cant wait to put it against my sensation

Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.

Tirozz said:
Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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Umm... Hardly...
It is an mid-upper range device.
It costs around 400 quid new.

So much rationalization in these forums.
Sensation vs SII, oh the Sensation feels faster than the SII (even though benchmarks and neutral users/reviewers all agree that the SII is a faster device) and the screen of the SII may be better than the Sensation but who cares, etc.
Now you have the One S, which is way faster than the Sensation with a worse screen, most people are still rationalizing about how the Sensation is a much superior device.
If that is the case, then the SII would have been the obvious choice from the beginning if all you want is a good display.

Not really sure what your point is?

kingston73 said:
Not really sure what your point is?
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Stop using the screen as an argument for rationalizing about a device you own or to discredit a phone that's markedly faster.
The same people that have been hating on the SII did not care about the screen quality even though the device is faster.
Now you have a new device that has a worse screen that's way faster than the Sensation but the same people that did not care for the display of a device are hating on it BECAUSE of its screen.
Double standards much?

Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.

I wouldn't say it's a downgrade... but there's no compelling reason to upgrade.
While the chipset, camera, and dimensions are better - the screen is iffy (AMOLED but pentile), limited to 16 GB, and no real option (yet) to install a larger battery.
If they supported TMO AWS, I would probably be looking at the Xperia S. Slightly smaller than the Sensation with a 720p screen, more ram, better camera, etc. With the latest rumors that the GSIII has a 4.8" screen... I'm not sure I really want anything like that.

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Oh, ok, I see what you're saying. The screen to me is a non-issue, I still don't see the one S being an upgrade over the sensation. Faster? In daily use or just in benchmarks? My biggest issue with it is the lack of storage, I used to have a 16 gb sd card and between music, video, and backups it got filled pretty quickly.
The battery isn't great but I could live with it, although if I'm on a trip away from home it's nice to know if I run out I have a backup battery I can just pop in the phone and go.
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Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.

Tirozz said:
Well, it's a budget phone right, so I guess they've put in a cheap screen for that reason.
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No, the One V is the 'budget' one of the range.

My sensation(running aokp) is an excellent phone and development is outstanding but the sense OS really sucks so I wont be buying a One S. Might try a samsung handset but after rooting and flashing 3 samsungs for friends and family huge PTA by the way I might have to jump ship altogether.

I don't get the point of this rant. Tech-wise, One S is far superior to the One X in my opinion. I mean, apart from the screen, the One X has very little going for it. Tegra3 is a massive disappointment (just like Tegra2 was), and pales in comparison to Snapdragon 4 when it comes to the things that matter for a phone: Speed and battery life.
Yes, One S runs at a lower resolution, so it is close to 'cheating' since we are not comparing like-to-like. One S would probably be a much inferior experience to One X, if it was to run at the same (higher) resolution.
But we are comparing consumer experiences here, and that's where One S absolutely beats One X hands down. It feels faster (even on stock), and its battery life is one of the best I have seen on a phone. It regularly stays alive for over 3-4 days on a single charge, with data and sync on.
Plus, although Pentile, the Super AMOLED is still a work of beauty, delivering incredible colours and blacks. The only thing One X (and XE) have going for them is that S-LCD offers superior pixel density and does not have jagged-lines.
But One S is smaller, lighter, and clearly the better device.

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I don't get the point of this rant.
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I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.

lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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agreed!
I think I see it 99% every time a new awsm phone comes out

lianw said:
Those are all valid reasons and I respect that and even agree with them.
What I think is absolutely ridiculous and stupid is the sheer amount of double standards and rationalization that a large number of people here tend to exhibit.
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You have been on a discussion board before....right? :what:
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lianw said:
I've said it numerous times.
Sensation owners trying to rationalize that their device is better than what it actually is nowadays.
Human psychology at its finest.
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You're very unique on forums, and I can relate, because we think a lot alike. No matter what comes out, people will always find a way to argue that the Sensation is the better device. It's not unique behavior to the Sensation, nor is it unique to phones (I see the same behavior on car forums I'm on). Saying that the One S is undeniably worse is unreasonable. What would make sense is to say that you don't feel that the One S is enough of an improvement to justify jumping for it. For me, I really care about the display on a phone, and I've read enough bad things about the One S and its bad display to avoid it. I don't really get the rationalization behavior, though. It only took me 3 weeks after getting my Sensation way back when to wish I had waited to get the GS2 instead. I was also very vocal on this forum about how I thought the Sensation was nice for my first Android, but how I was also underwhelmed by it (especially the performance and screen) and I posted a lot in the early Sensation vs. GS2 threads about how I as a Sensation owner had to cede that the GS2 was the better overall device.
Back a little bit on topic, I have to say that I'm really disappointed in the trend we're seeing with Android devices. I really want the One X's screen, but the overall size of the One X is too big for me. The One S has the form factor I want, but not the screen. The GS3 is receiving major hype right now, but we can be fairly confident that it too will have a large 4.6"+ display and consequently large dimensions, so I don't think I can get the GS3 unless they manage to make the screen nearly edge to edge. Will we ever see 4.3" display devices that also get top of the line specs again?

What comes next?

To Soon?
But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
I've grown used to the Android Market announcing some superior phone at the beginning of the year only to be out done by another come the Holidays. I thinking of getting a One X, but the thought lingers of come a months time or two after I've gotten it something "better" gets leaked/announced.
I didn't post this in the Q&A since its more of general idea then an actual question regarding the phone.

If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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joshnichols189 said:
If you are waiting to buy because something better will be out soon, you will never buy a phone.
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I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.

Tachi91 said:
I get that there will always be something better down the line. Its more of for the time being its a solid phone so comes June/July when the fall lineup starts pumping what else can they add besides the obvious.
Whether I buy the onex today or next month is doesn't really matter its more of a food for thought kind of statement.
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Think about it. Only phones really worth waiting for is Samsung , and iPhone and the nexus. Now if you are a serious flasher then wait for nexus. That is the only phone really worth getting my friend in fall or like I said iPhone. One X will last you at.least a year min.
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Tachi91 said:
But anyways since the OneX seems to be a good rounded device when it comes to hardware what comes next? Besides better radio(4G etc) and display what is there to add besides more ram and higher core speeds?
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Removable, and more powerful battery, removable sd card, better gpu, waterproofing, thinner bezel, software buttons, better camera, wireless charging, multi-sim, decreased thickness, lighter weight, and a white color that doesn't get tainted by your jeans.
All of these are potential candidates, though they probably won't all happen at once.

Better battery
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I really want to see a new category of androids....gaming phones(yes sth like xperia play), I believe that will happen when the android games will be like those that are for psp. And that phones will have super cpu, ram , battery,bla,bla, and they will have controller!!!!!!!!
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I too am looking to get a new phone to replace my galaxy S.
are there any sites leaking info to a rumored next release of the nexus?

HTC has decided to go in the wrong direction with the One series wrt non-removable battery and no SD slot, imho, so I will not be looking to spend money with them unless they change direction.
Fortunately I am very pleased with my Sensation which has a removable battery and lots of good upgrade battery options to fill it, and some people have reported that the 64g XD works there as well, but I am less happy with TMO for which I have another 14.5 months left on my contract.
I am hopeful that I will have some better options to choose from then.

Well, maybe they'll find a way to make cheap AMOLED non-pentile HD screens. I guess there will be more phones with NFC.
Also there has to be some innovation in the battery sector. With screens getting bigger -requiring more cpu and gpu- phones will get veeery hungry.
But aside from the typical bigger-screen-faster-cpu race I hope that there will be more usability enhancements, just like the S3 is promoting. Because what's a phone worth that's blazingly fast and big but you still pull down your notification bar and click that icon to read your text?

replacing my gs2 for one s

so i live in saudia arabia sadly ( i amnot a saudi ) any way since its part of asia the only one s version we have here is s3 version but today luckily i found a guy who has the s4 edition and its in a very good condition and willing to sell it for a decent price so i just wanted to ask a couple of questions before i do the transition
1- any one who used both devices can he tell me exactly what i will be missing
2- my main 2 problems with the s2 is over heating and poor batttery life espcially with web browsing how are these going for the htc one s
3-how is updates and on my s2 i got a jelly bean official leak does the s2 have any type of official jelly bean
4-so i once owned an htc sensation xe and i had many problems rooting and putting any custom roms due to something called s off and hboot when iam buying my one s should i check for version of these or any thing alike
5-since there is no sd card how much exactly i do have as my storage in my gs2 i have 11 gigs
any one wants to note something please note it

get a galaxy S3 forget the One S, the one S is a great phone but HTC are useless and we are still waiting for Jelly Bean.

BackDaws said:
get a galaxy S3 forget the One S, the one S is a great phone but HTC are useless and we are still waiting for Jelly Bean.
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well i cannot afford a gs3 and even if i could didnot u ask ur self why i didnot pick htc one x one reason size i hate big phones

mightyillidan said:
well i cannot afford a gs3 and even if i could didnot u ask ur self why i didnot pick htc one x one reason size i hate big phones
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Don't listen to him. The One S is a great device, there is nothing wrong with the current software the phone has, so HTC being "slow" to release a update is a terrible excuse not to buy a phone.
We have a Jelly Bean rom that came from the One S se, and we'll probably be seeing JellyBean within a month.. or two..
Check to see what Hboot version it is. Hold Power + Vol Down and it should tell you in the bootloader. 1.09 and lower are preferred. With anything higher you'll need to fastboot any boot.img's.
I have about 10Gb of Available space.
My One S doesn't overheat, it does get warm though. And it feels pretty warm because it's Aluminum, it also gets extremely cold if you leave it in a cold room.
Battery life is pretty good, I get from anywhere from 3-5 hours of screen on time. Easily lasts all day.

Agreed. This is a great phone. The only issue being HTC slacking behind but that's not a big deal. The only unfortunate thing is that development in the dev section will be limited as the Ville C2 is not so popular / desired.

xxquicksh0txx said:
Don't listen to him. The One S is a great device, there is nothing wrong with the current software the phone has, so HTC being "slow" to release a update is a terrible excuse not to buy a phone.
We have a Jelly Bean rom that came from the One S se, and we'll probably be seeing JellyBean within a month.. or two..
Check to see what Hboot version it is. Hold Power + Vol Down and it should tell you in the bootloader. 1.09 and lower are preferred. With anything higher you'll need to fastboot any boot.img's.
I have about 10Gb of Available space.
My One S doesn't overheat, it does get warm though. And it feels pretty warm because it's Aluminum, it also gets extremely cold if you leave it in a cold room.
Battery life is pretty good, I get from anywhere from 3-5 hours of screen on time. Easily lasts all day.
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Okay thx so much i think ill get the one s whish i dont regret it
Closed Source Project said:
Agreed. This is a great phone. The only issue being HTC slacking behind but that's not a big deal. The only unfortunate thing is that development in the dev section will be limited as the Ville C2 is not so popular / desired.
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In english please

xxquicksh0txx said:
Check to see what Hboot version it is. Hold Power + Vol Down and it should tell you in the bootloader. 1.09 and lower are preferred. With anything higher you'll need to fastboot any boot.img's.
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May i ask, why do we need to fastboot any boot.img's if we have a Hboot version higher than 1.09?
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any last opinions ?

OT
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androidino95 said:
OT
Sa-udis in a-udis, sa-udis in a-udis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqJDuZIcQ34&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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lmao

I actually traded my international S3 down to a HTC One S (t-mobile) and i am very happy. S3 is a powerful phone, and it has pretty good battery life despite the battery hunger big screen and quad core. Not to mention the removable battery and microsd are also a big plus. However, the phone is a bit too big for me and i am not a big fan of touchwitz. S3 has this new innovative features called "Motion" and the new "Premium Suite" which i find very gimmicky. After the novelty wears off, I don't find the new features that useful and slowly turn all of them off as i don't use them much. On the contrary, I find HTC One S has the perfect screen size, built quality is very good as i like the aluminium back very much, and Sense UI is way more better than Touchwitz in my own opinion. Sense integrates with google task and calendar way better and the widgets are very beautiful and useful. The only big down size of the HTC One S is the screen quality and the small battery (1650 mah vs 2100mah on S3). HTC One S's screen has very low ppi compared to the S3, and unfortunately i can actually tell by my naked eyes! If HTC incorporate sony xperia S' screen on the HTC One S, that would be the perfect phone for me. As to the smaller battery, it is not that big of a deal since it can still last a day without much problem. Hope my short review is helpful and please excuse my poor grammar.

Just because the battery is smaller doesn't mean that it will have worse battery life, there is a lot more to battery life than just what size of a battery is being used, screen power efficiency, CPU chipset for PE, the type of battery being used and most importantly software optimisation.
The one S has the better battery life (not by much though) as it has a far more power efficient CPU chipset, not as high res. and a smaller screen.
The one XL (same specs as the X except it uses the S4 chipset) also has better battery life than the international GS 3 despite having a smaller battery too.

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One S(S4) is much better than your gs2(A9 dual core). System much faster and you got an amazing camera. We already have the official JB today, you got USB-OTG supported in JB.
The sense rom should better than Samsung rom in my opinion. The only downside compared to gs2 is not changeable battery but the battery life on One S(S4) is better.