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Advantages of HBOOT upgrade

Hi,
I rooted my phone after a downgrade recently. I have a few questions
1) What are the advantages of upgrading the hboot from 0.98.2000(unlocked via revolutionary) to 2.00.2002 using this?
2) What are the advantages of upgrading to the latest radio? I am referring to this one? is it recommended to do so?

I would not recommend upgrading to a higher h-boot. It will just make life difficult, if anything. Also, I would only upgrade the radio if you're experiencing any signal issues our anything. Otherwise you won't notice a difference.
You might want to look into an eng-hboot though. It can be overwritten for warranty purposes
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Under what situations should we consider to upgrade to eng-hboot?
Swyped from a primed Desire S

Well if something were to go wrong with the phone, you could flash a RUU and it would overwrite the H-BOOT to a stock one. So it's good for warranty purposes. There are also other advantages to it, can't remember off the top of my head though.
It's not necessary to have, but I think it's nice to have. Don't forget though, there are risks with flashing a H-BOOT.

Risks would mean bricking I suppose...
So from what I understand
1. Upgrading to stock hboot is never recommended
2. We could upgrade to eng hboot, which will have an advantage in case of warranty issues, but rings the risk of bricking.
My warranty expires in May this year.
I will look up for more advantages of an eng hboot.
Swyped from a primed Desire S

suku_patel_22 said:
Risks would mean bricking I suppose...
So from what I understand
1. Upgrading to stock hboot is never recommended
2. We could upgrade to eng hboot, which will have an advantage in case of warranty issues, but rings the risk of bricking.
My warranty expires in May this year.
I will look up for more advantages of an eng hboot.
Swyped from a primed Desire S
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Yes, but many have done it, including myself. I wouldn't say upgrading h-boot is never recommended, just not on this device. With some devices there are advantages.
The process of flashing the H-BOOT is fairly simple and it's just your usual risks that you get when you're doing anything to your phone.
But like i said before, it's not absolutely necessary to have.

dan-fish said:
Yes, but many have done it, including myself. I wouldn't say upgrading h-boot is never recommended, just not on this device. With some devices there are advantages.
The process of flashing the H-BOOT is fairly simple and it's just your usual risks that you get when you're doing anything to your phone.
But like i said before, it's not absolutely necessary to have.
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Are you S-off via xtc clip or revolutionary?
it's there any differences to upgrading to eng hboot between both the processes?
Appreciate if you could guide me to some links you referred to..
Swyped from a primed Desire S

I'm an AlphaRevX man. Old version of revolutionary. I used this guide to flash mine
Murchelago said:
You can use this method via adb:
1. Put the hboot.img you want to flash in the root of the sdcard.
2. In cmd run the following commands (after each command press enter):
adb devices
adb shell
su
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18 of=/sdcard/backup.img
dd if=/sdcard/hboot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
reboot bootloader
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here is the eng h-boot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
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The new hboot has a new partition system... But its no use to us, as our ROMs aren't taking advantage of it yet.
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olyloh6696 said:
The new hboot has a new partition system... But its no use to us, as our ROMs aren't taking advantage of it yet.
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Oly, what h-boot are you on?
Whats ur current ROM?
After going through various threads I am thinking of flashing end-hboot version 0.98.2000 as the 2.0 version wastes 150 MB of space....

suku_patel_22 said:
Oly, what h-boot are you on?
Whats ur current ROM?
After going through various threads I am thinking of flashing end-hboot version 0.98.2000 as the 2.0 version wastes 150 MB of space....
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I would agree that is the better option.
even though I'm not on it myself. I have also been waiting for a ROM that takes advantage of new hboot partition layout for months now
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim

suku_patel_22 said:
Oly, what h-boot are you on?
Whats ur current ROM?
After going through various threads I am thinking of flashing end-hboot version 0.98.2000 as the 2.0 version wastes 150 MB of space....
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I'm on 6.98xxxxx revolutionary I think....
Mine came with 0.98.2000 and I unlocked with AlphaRevX.
I'm using Endymion.
@Ben, Maybe the ICS update will take advantage of the new partition?
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olyloh6696 said:
I'm on 6.98xxxxx revolutionary I think....
Mine came with 0.98.2000 and I unlocked with AlphaRevX.
I'm using Endymion.
@Ben, Maybe the ICS update will take advantage of the new partition?
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Well, can't find a working link for 2.0 so either it's 0.98 or stay on revolutionary 6.98.
Swyped from a primed Desire S

olyloh6696 said:
@Ben, Maybe the ICS update will take advantage of the new partition?
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one can only hope
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim

ben_pyett said:
one can only hope
Swyped firm ym Desire S unsig XAD Permuim
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I would've thought that the update would probably bring a newer h-boot as well
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dan-fish said:
I would've thought that the update would probably bring a newer h-boot as well
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agree, a newer hboot for ICS seems more likely..
Swyped from a primed Desire S

Well flashed 0.98 all went smooth, revolutionary is off my back now
have S-OFF 0.98.....
Cheers guys thanks all

Hello Globatron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know ... not send private messages ....
But I must get rid of the original icecream sandwich ..
It is so bad ...
There is already great news about your tool??

Huh?

k0zmic said:
Huh?
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Huh? What?????

What is a Globatron tool?

GhostXSeries said:
What is a Globatron tool?
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Globatron is the name of the developer .....
The tool is called uopunutbear S-OFF
I would like to return from ICS ...
But with 1:27 hboot I find no possibility

Ah ok are you S-ON with hboot 1.27? If so Have a look at this thread.
They are developing ways of getting devices that have hboot 1.27 and S-ON converted to S-off.
They may be able to help.

GhostXSeries said:
Ah ok are you S-ON with hboot 1.27? If so Have a look at this thread.
They are developing ways of getting devices that have hboot 1.27 and S-ON converted to S-off.
They may be able to help.
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yes I am ...
is the original icecream poorly

Have you tried a hard reset yet? If not, give it a go as you must be one of the few not liking ICS
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EddyOS said:
Have you tried a hard reset yet? If not, give it a go as you must be one of the few not liking ICS
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I unlocked and after root
original firmware be playing .. 1:50 ....
4.0 and then recorded via ota.
Now I have hboot 1.27.
with htc unlocked but can not rooten ..
Can not S off
set ...
My cell phone works, but custom ics
I would prefer
Sorry for my bad english (Google)

So you've not done a hard reset but instead posted something completely different from what I asked???
Do a hard reset, it'll be a lot better

EddyOS said:
So you've not done a hard reset but instead posted something completely different from what I asked???
Do a hard reset, it'll be a lot better
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I made hard reset ....
was also better after that ..

why not just join the irc discussion? channels are:
#unbrick for the sensation thread
#Juopunutbear for the new s-off method

RussianBear said:
why not just join the irc discussion? channels are:
#unbrick for the sensation thread
#Juopunutbear for the new s-off method
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My phone is not bricked ...
Seeking possibility to unlock hboot 1.27 and rooten ..
With htc dev can I unlock but will not root ..
What can I do?

[Q] Hboot upgrade

Hi guys i have hboot 1.27.0000 and want upgrade to 1.27.1100 for install sense o maniac rom. Anyone can link me zip for upgrade?
PS i need new radio for this hboot?

Your S-ON. It says this in a thousand places, you will need to wait for Revolutionary to release their tool for 1.27.0000 devices.
Why won't people read? It says this in at least a thousand places. Just clutters up the Q&A Section.

usaff22 said:
Your S-ON. It says this in a thousand places, you will need to wait for Revolutionary to release their tool for 1.27.0000 devices.
Why won't people read? It says this in at least a thousand places. Just clutters up the Q&A Section.
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i have s-off and supercid but i dont remember what is my previus cid. have find correct tread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
but i dont understand what is correct zip

kekkojoker90 said:
i have s-off and supercid but i dont remember what is my previus cid. have find correct tread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
but i dont understand what is correct zip
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Thank God
You can flash any zip, because you are SuperCID'd. I recommend using 3.32 Unlocked in HTC Part 1.

usaff22 said:
Thank God
You can flash any zip, because you are SuperCID'd. I recommend using 3.32 Unlocked in HTC Part 1.
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thanks i'm not totally newbie but have sensation only from 3 days and havent understand all. For g2 is very simply change hboot etc etc.I thinked i can flash any zip but a confirm is appreciated.

usaff22 said:
Your S-ON. It says this in a thousand places, you will need to wait for Revolutionary to release their tool for 1.27.0000 devices.
Why won't people read? It says this in at least a thousand places. Just clutters up the Q&A Section.
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Revolutionary? Bah. Your best bet is this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522351
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio using XDA

[Question] Best way to downgrade Hboot now that we have s-off?

any tip, help would be apreciated.
im a old semi-dev (like semi-god lol just a joke) but mostly for samsung and motorola devices.
this is mmm, lets say my semi first HTC device, i briked accidentaly a HTC Sensation 4g, resiving an ota, i forget to change my cid.

There is no best way, there are many ways.
If you are s-off, just run a ruu of your choice with the hboot you want.
Check what cid you need for the ruu (HTC__xxx) (because a ruu will still do checks). I prefer a og HTCcid over supercid anyday, you have experienced that already.
cid is now easy to change with a fastboot command (or leave the supercid).
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blackwing182 said:
any tip, help would be apreciated.
im a old semi-dev (like semi-god lol just a joke) but mostly for samsung and motorola devices.
this is mmm, lets say my semi first HTC device, i briked accidentaly a HTC Sensation 4g, resiving an ota, i forget to change my cid.
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I have to ask this but why would you with S-Off?

Darknites said:
I have to ask this but why would you with S-Off?
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I like lower hboots, like 1.06 or if i can find the 1.04 hboot would be better.
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blackwing182 said:
I like lower hboots, like 1.06 or if i can find the 1.04 hboot would be better.
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But they slower.

Darknites said:
But they slower.
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Slower, why?
I have hboot 1.06 and i am willing to change to a higher hboot if it worked better than 1.06

jujusito said:
Slower, why?
I have hboot 1.06 and i am willing to change to a higher hboot if it worked better than 1.06
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Its a bit slower going into bootloader or recovery its not much so up to if you want to upgrade also a newer one don't have the loading bar.

Run the RUU
Safest way to downgrade your hboot to 1.06 is to install the shipped rom RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.53.401.2_Radio_0.15.31501S.19_10.12.31501S.06L_release_251412_signed.exe

codf4ther said:
Safest way to downgrade your hboot to 1.06 is to install the shipped rom RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.53.401.2_Radio_0.15.31501S.19_10.12.31501S.06L_release_251412_signed.exe
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that would brick my phone i think
btw whats the new Hboot 1.14 have new?

AW: [Question] Best way to downgrade Hboot now that we have s-off?
The newest Hboot is 2.15 and why should a ruu will brick your phone?
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blackwing182 said:
that would brick my phone i think
btw whats the new Hboot 1.14 have new?
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Updates to piss us off before S-Off lol. I just don't see the point in doing this with S-Off, if we didn't then ya downgrading was good but now to me its bad.
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NQNH said:
The newest Hboot is 2.15 and why should a ruu will brick your phone?
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Why would an OTA brick a phone?

ENG HBoot 1.09.2006 (Engineer HBoot)

I know the ENG HBoot 1.09.2006 was out there for a little while when trying to get S-OFF for our phone but since then the link has now died so I'm putting out this request for someone who has it (theres a few of you out there) to share it to us all in here...

wrong section?

I believe he is trying to get it from someone, then he will put it in the first post along with instructions and the like. Instead of making 2 threads. Plus, devs will probably see this a hell of a lot sooner than if it was in Q&A.
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mcmb03 said:
wrong section?
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It's an engineer hboot that's for development purposes that some dev will have somewhere so I guessed this is the right place...

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liamstears said:
I know the ENG HBoot 1.09.2006 was out there for a little while when trying to get S-OFF for our phone but since then the link has now died so I'm putting out this request for someone who has it (theres a few of you out there) to share it to us all in here...
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Wats so special about this hboot will it give us some advantages?

scottie720 said:
Wats so special about this hboot will it give us some advantages?
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If you don't know what it is, don't worry about it. It allows some extra commands in fastboot, I believe.

How can you check if you have that hotboot? I have 1.09 with S-off, Network Unlocked, Rooted, and bootloader unlocked.
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Gman_aka_Pop's said:
How can you check if you have that hotboot? I have 1.09 with S-off, Network Unlocked, Rooted, and bootloader unlocked.
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See these 2 pictures:
http://s013.radikal.ru/i324/1112/7c/14f6710cbf92.jpg http://i.imgur.com/bKZta.jpg
You will see one says ENG at the top and the other says SHIP
We currently all have SHIP HBoot's, we are looking for ENG HBoot...

IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.

ThisWasATriumph said:
IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.
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I found one link so far in there but it was dead. I pmd the guy who originally gave the link to see if I could get it
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I understand why you put this in the dev section but I can not leave it here moving to general section.

I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS

gamecheet said:
I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS
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Mmcblk0p4, if im not mistaken
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gamecheet said:
I seriously hope this is it... I just spent about 15 scouring the old S-OFF thread and found this link to a dropbox folder with a bunch of old dumps of S-OFFed devices way back when, I believe the one in the EVITA S-OFF folder is the ENG hboot one although tbh I have no idea which one of the partitions on our phone holds the hboot. Hope this sorta helps..
www(dot)dropbox(dot)com/sh/tmpa7i7ibjy0ciy/lnAD6aSvBS
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Checked it and I'm afraid its only the 1.09 ship HBoot we already have

ThisWasATriumph said:
IIRC the only people with ENG HBoots were those that had factory S-OFF devices. Pretty sure there are partition dumps containing them somewhere in the S-OFF thread.
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I have factory soff device and I have ship 1.14
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For1n said:
I have factory soff device and I have ship 1.14
Send from my One XL CM10.1
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I believe the only people that got the eng hboots were those with test devices although it wouldn't surprise me if some early retail soff devices had it too

Myrder said:
Mmcblk0p4, if im not mistaken
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You mean mmcblk0p12

An eng hboot is pointless to a regular user, all it has is extra fast boot commands
Slithered from my HTC One X+

Here is my archive of all the documents and s-off information for when I was working on the XL. I am currently busy so you'll have to check through the folder and see if any of the s-off partition folders have eng hboot. I know I had it at one point but don't remember if I put it in my archive. Let me know if you don't find it and I'll search for it later on through the rest of my files.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/a1n5s4r61wfh7qr/E_XaRZhI8i