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Samsung SGH-i600 Android...???

Hello. I am new here. I saw you helped some guy running Android on his HTC touch dual. I have a SGH-i600 Windows Mobile 6 Smartphone(No touchscreen). It is the European version of the Blackjack 1. Since it is in the same category as the white "Gphone" prototype shown in An Android Demo Video...I thought I could try Android on my phone. For now, I would like to know if it is possible to run it from within windows. Later(when it will be more stable), I would like to remove WM and put Android on it as main OS. Or maybe Dual-Boot??? That would be very awesome!
Any help? Is it possible?

dude, android on any phone right now is almost impossible- i think only kaiser users are lucky enough to get some sort of unofficial OS of it working.
android is not actually out yet and when it does come out it will only be available for phones coming out then and the only hope youl have is if someone cooks a version for your blackjack or you get a phone which it supports.
hope this cleared things up

It did.
Yeah. Unfortunately, it did clear things up very well. I wish somebody could hack it to work with the SGH-i600. If not, I am getting a Kaiser or a touch-pro if the price will go down. I will not pay more than $600 on a phone.

Sorry for necro!
Sorry for necroposting, but now that Android has been released, is there anything I could do to port it to other phones. Especially my sgh-i600!

I don't much get excited by operating systems, but I'm intrigued here.
My suggestion to you would be to 1st get two sheets of paper, then write the benefits of WinMo on one and the benefits of Android on the other. And then do an HONEST comparison.
Now don't get me wrong: I have nothing against the Linux crowd, but I have a problem with tech-weenies that think it's cool to write M$ instead of MS and who believe Firefox is better simply because it isn't from Microsoft. Please don't think this statement is aimed at you - I DON'T think this of you, but instead see you as a member of the because-we-can brigade!
WinMo offers many benefits, least of which the maturity and stability, the number of devs coding for it and the number of apps available. In userland there are things like Exchange integration and more.
In my limited perspective I don't see Android matching WinMo, so aside from the because-we-can approach I see absolutely no point in migrating to it even if it was available to me right now. In fact, Android to me is of less consequence than Symbian. I see it as a Phone OS, while my device is a PDA that just happens to have phone capabilities, but is used for so much more. A bit like XP Home - pretty-ish, but outside of home usage it is mostly useless.
I will ask that you post your comparison of Android and WinMo here for all to see, but please don't get emotionally attached to either. Just stick to the facts.

let's see!
I also hate it when people bash something for no reason. I am not bashing Microsoft, nor Windows mobile. It's just that I prefer getting the most out of everything. WinMO smartphone edition freezes on me like a ***** every day, but that is not the main reason for which I would like to install Android. Android has a very easy to use SDK and I can easily port my Desktop apps to Android Platform. I am unable to understand the WinMO's sdk.Android just works for me, while WinMO doesn't. I have to say I love the phone. I could get a G1, but it doesn't suit my needs hardware wise. I just love the i600 and love the Android OS. S60 is still better than WinMO in my opinion. Easier to use(SDK) and faster(OS). I think there is a much higher chance of porting s60 as they have the e71 similar to i600.

Any luck for me? None?

[Q] Understanding feasibility of Blackberry/RIM running Android apps in Playbook?

I am doing some research on the feasibility of RIM's rumored "ambition" of running android apps within the Blackberry Playbook.
As many of you know, this has been "discussed" on several blogs over the past several weeks (can't post links as a new user): news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20031474-17.html
this is where my question to the developer community comes in: what do you guys think of this venture? Will the experience be seamless? would it require extra effort for you to get an Android app to work on a Blackberry device (whether it be a tablet or a smartphone)? Would be curious from a developer point of view how you guys view this transition. Finally, what do you think the user experience would be like with a RIM device? would it be seamless for users in terms of experience. There are news reports that blackberry won't be using dalvik to try to pursue this transition, so im curious also if this changes things:
appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/10/rim_playbook_to_run_android_apps_but_fears_oracle_lawsuit.html
Curious to get thoughts...thanks

[Q] Android App Emulator

I'm much like several of the people who bought TouchPads in the recent firesale. I absolutely love WebOs and the device in general but the thing that's bothering me is that the app selection is absolutely horrible! I know that there is an Android App Emulator on the PlayBook, is it possible for something like that to show up on the TouchPad? I love WebOS and I don't really want to give it up for only Android. I'm sure tons of people would really like something like this on their new Touchpads. Thanks!

Sounds like a great idea hmm...

I agree. I think that porting Dalvik to WebOS might be the best move to give us the Android apps and still let us easily use Linux, including ubuntu apps.

Well the problem would be the license..

lol...good point

license issues?
I thought it was opensource/freeware? How else could Cyanogen, etc., do what they do?

is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.

FAILHARD said:
is it possible to port alien dalvik to the TouchPad? We should get some developers on this.
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You took the words right out of my mouth!!
I'm actually trying to find developers for the exact same thing. It should be doable. Alien Dalvik was made in Qt which was ported to WebOS so in theory it's entirley doable. the only question is if there are any developers free to take it on that aren't currently working on a full Android OS port.
I'd really like to get a development team set up for this because alot of people would like to keep WebOS and just have a larger app catalog.

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking. We should look for a dev who could possibly have experience it Qt, though that's not completely necessary. If we gain more support, I'll post a dev thread.

I can't offer anything other than Beer/Pizza money but this is a great idea. WebOS is generally well reviewed and not looked at as a problem so much as a benefit. The OS is solid. The App Catalog is not.

Android Emulator :-D
I would love see a emulator on my TP. I would like to be able to place Android on the device I still much prefer the UI and design on WebOS even though Android is far more capable.
I'm happy to donate to this cause should someone take it up

alien dalvik is not open source, however, dalvik in general as well as the whole android os is under the apache license, this can be modified, forked and reworked (such as myriad turbo/alien dalvik) without having to release the source, its obviously possible... But you know what would be easier, porting android as a whole... Even dual booting would be easier.

Well the allure of this is having the superior Android app selection on the arguably better tablet experience of WebOS. If that were made possible - I wouldn't care about having Android on the device.

I couldn't agree more. As an OG Pre owner I love webOS but couldn't fight everything I can do with Android.
If I could get all my Android apps and keep my TP the way it is would be perfect.
The problem with porting Android right now is we have to use 2.3 which is for phones and not 3.2. I would rather either wait for ICS/4.0 for a port or just get the app market working.
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That settles it there are enoght people interested in having a standalone WebOs android app emulator without having full android.. I'm starting a development thread, doing some preliminary work, and going to look for a few interested developers to work with on getting this going. My touchpad comes tomorrow so then i can really get into it..

Thanks Roto I was just about to do the same.

also, Roto post a link

Up. Beer on me

Here is the link to the development thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16904876#post16904876
Failhard since you and I were the first to put in work on this idea i'd like you to help me head the project and find volunteer talent if you're up to it.
I took a look into what goes into a Dalvik port... it's TOTALLY doable just a matter of time and effort..
Unfortunately after i return to college in a week time will be in short supply for me so ALL help is appreciated!

I had never used WebOS before getting a tablet this last weekend. I have been an android fan for smartphones for now (I am willing to move to something better when it is available, otherwise stick to what works). I am a web designer/user interface designer and since starting using WebOS this last weekend, when it comes to the OS and its default apps that come with it, it is clear WebOS has the best user interface of the tablets (I used both iOS and Android OSes 1.5-3.2, Windows 7 tablets don't really count as a tablet OS and that is clear when using it on tablets).
The Android Emulator would be a great idea, but if you want quick development specifically for WebOS, we need to get a program created that can easily and painlessly port android apps to WebOS apps. Also it will take HP courting and reassuring the big players like Netflix, Hulu, Corporate IT Software Development companies that WebOS is viable and have continued support.
HP/WebOS only has a short amount of time to really establish itself. Next summer is rumored to be Windows 8 release and Windows 8 tablets coming. If Windows 8 can create a good tablet interface (WebOS is the one to beat imo atm as it has the number 1 interface), plus it's strong backing of games, program/application support and being able to integrate phone, xbox, tablet, and PC (Desktops and Laptops). Windows 8 is the biggest threat to anyone in the tablet market at the moment imo and they have been very successful in many of their endeavors as of late ("don't poke the sleeping giant" comes to mind, google and Apple have done that).
Due this short Window of time (pun partially intended), we have to establish WebOS as a main competitor to Google and Apple and prepare it for the onslaught of Windows 8. We need to work as a community to get things rolling and we need to push HP to court the big players in the industry to produce apps and content for WebOS and to continue further development on the operating system on their end. If we as a community and HP execute right, it will be a very exciting year coming up.

[Q] How To Get Free Phones for App Development?

I recently posted a thread on how I can start programming geared towards the mobile platforms.
I would like to develop apps for more than one mobile platform. However I just have access to an Android device (SE Xperia X10), iPhone 4, and an iPad 2.
Smartphones are not like candies, that you can go pickup at a cheap store.
I mean how and where can I and other people who want to develop apps for specific platforms get free phones for testing and using the apps we develop?
The emulator that is included with the SDKs are not always the best way to test.
Any suggestions? All help is appreciated
EDIT: Forgot to mention that recently Windows Phone called over WebOS developers to develop applications on the WP platform, and Windows gave the developers free devices. But there are not many WebOS devs out there..

The best and fastest way to require a "demo" phone is doing the following.
Just get in touch with the companies that are creating the phones.
Explain your development and give them a nice overview on what your app is, what it does and how things go.
Make sure you don't demand a phone but wish to test run it on certain specific devices with key features that are a "+" in your app.
I think you'll have a chance to receive a demo phone.
Btw don't expect you'll be able to keep that phone forever.
I recently contacted HP to request an Elite-book from them for business usage.
Explained the plans and deals and after a few days i received one.
I need to return it by end of this year.(aawww )
Did same thing for some phones for my company
I think it depends on what you wanna test and how high your requirements are.
Also i think it's best to mail on behalf of someone working in the industry or on behalf of a company.
They had my company info in case of argument.
Sites like XDA got enough rep to request them and be trusted.
Individual guy asking for a phone is "50/50" chance. (depends on the person processing your mail and your info & app your working on)

One thread is enough: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1237030

XDA boring when you move away from Android

Although the title of the Portal says 'Android, Windows Phone, and Windows Mobile Development News, Information, and Howtos - XDA Developers' XDA is mainly Android driven. There's hardly any post/video about Windows Phone (apps) on the portal. :crying:
Ever since I moved to the Lumia 920, earlier this year, this place has been very boring for me. It seems nobody is interested in WP at all.
You might as well remove the Windows Phone and Windows Mobile news part from the title
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Donny1987 said:
Although the title of the Portal says 'Android, Windows Phone, and Windows Mobile Development News, Information, and Howtos - XDA Developers' XDA is mainly Android driven. There's hardly any post/video about Windows Phone (apps) on the portal. :crying:
Ever since I moved to the Lumia 920, earlier this year, this place has been very boring for me. It seems nobody is interested in WP at all.
You might as well remove the Windows Phone and Windows Mobile news part from the title
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Get yourself over to MoDaCo - or get a new phone (android in case you weren't sure)
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Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.

ShadowLea said:
Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.
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You can't flash custom ROMs, therefore it's useless? The iOS community would like to have a word with you.

Tatanko said:
You can't flash custom ROMs, therefore it's useless? The iOS community would like to have a word with you.
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To a community dedicated to creating and flashing customROMs, yes, it's useless.
iOS is useless in itself; invalid argument.

ShadowLea said:
To a community dedicated to creating and flashing customROMs, yes, it's useless.
iOS is useless in itself; invalid argument.
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Ouch....lol, but brutally true in the context of open source modding, deving and overally platform growth.
And while WPs seem pretty nifty and even sleek (and back to the OPs lament) what can there be possibly to talk about when you're talking closed source platform? I mean, even to a certain extent Apple has a small 'Jailbroken' type community (albeit not as robust as Android's modding/hacking/flashing).
I suppose it's just a matter of Windows phones getting into enough peoples' hands and even then it'd have to be the super technical ones that would even have to take the interest in trying to 'crack it open', as it were.
Perhaps that is something MS should consider for the future success of WPs--maybe making it open source--as it may give them a foot-hold into the interest of many more people (....of course. we all know that won't happen anytime soon--if at all).

ShadowLea said:
iOS is useless in itself; invalid argument.
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You're so clever!!!

Thanks for the replies :cyclops:
There's more than flashing, there's also a lot of Android apps posts/reviews. Why are there no WP apps reviews or just WP news in general?

Come back to the light!

Tatanko said:
You can't flash custom ROMs, therefore it's useless? The iOS community would like to have a word with you.
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Useless to developers because it's closed - there's a post somewhere by Chainfire about how Samsung have tried (& failed) to stop developers from trying to root the S4 ...I haven't got a link to the post but I did copy some of it for reference here is a quote from the post -
"As some of you must have noticed, latest Samsung GT-I9500 firmwares carry a kernel configuration supposed to prevent SETUID privilege elevation.
Stock unmodified firmware with root is my preferred setup but also a strong dependency for all my development, for me this change is a massive setback if not a dealbreaker."
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ShadowLea said:
Blame Microsoft for making their OS useless to Developers; It's not the developers fault you can't flash on a Windows Phone.
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Not even download an app and install,no filemanager.. windows os sucks...

If u want to have fun with xda u must have an Android
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Well Android obv has a huge market share and win mobile/ win phone extremely little. Since theres less phones out there to talk about obv there will be a relative ammount of posts on here lol. Although i do miss the old days of hacking windows mobile using regedit lol.

In previous generations, it was Windows Mobile. Now it's Android, and for several key reasons:
- Huge hardware selection/affordability (high-end, mid-range, low-end/budget)
- Huge software variety (different OEM skins/apps/AOSP)
- Frequent advancements in hardware (far surpasses the iPhone's hardware capabilities on high end models)
- Customization - I can change the launcher, theme, replace built-in apps, etc
- Open-sourced code; you get the code for the base of the OS/device kernel
etc, etc. It's not because "we hate Windows Phone." Windows Phone is smooth, but that's all it has going for it:
- Retardedly huge Metro font (sorry for using that word, but it's a waste of space). I don't really like the Metro UI overall. The launcher looks nice but that's about it, and I can replicate it on Android if I want.
- Closed source means the community cannot [easily] fix lingering issues
- Microsoft screwed first-gen Windows Phone owners by keeping them stuck on 7.5. Yay, you get a new launcher and that's it. Who's going to make Windows 7.5 apps when new phones are going to run 8? 7.5 isn't compatible with 8 apps.
- Harder to do simple things, such as set up MMS on several Windows Phone devices
- Lagging in some hardware areas; I can understand being efficient and only needing a dual-core Snapdragon S4 for example. But 720p screens only recently became supported.
- Basically, if you don't buy a Nokia WP8 device, you're missing out on most of the good (Nokia-exclusive apps).
- All the phones are the same. That would be great if they all got updated at the same time, but it's not the case. Yes, some phones have different screens, etc. But the software is exactly the same.
(I'm not hating on Windows Phone. I still think it's an incredibly smooth OS with a lot of potential, and choice is always a good thing. Just listing, from the perspective of someone who enjoys Android, why I can't use it on a daily basis.)
I can go on and on, but you get the gist of it. You can have stable and boring if you want, but at XDA we enjoy diversity, choice, customization, and most importantly the ability to do things our own way.

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