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I'm installing tracking tools on my Xoom but someone could easily do a factory reset to get rid of them.
Is there a way to prevent a factory reset or make it realy hard to do? or is there a way to modify the rom image so that these apps are installed by default?
Essentially i want to make sure that the only way to get rid of the tracking tool is to flash the roms...
note: I have a rooted Xoom with Android 3.2
If you want to prevent people from clearing the device memory from the Settings UI, you can simply password protect your entire tablet (or portions of the software using App Protector or similar software). You may also want to lock down ADB and Android Market app installs
I don't think that most people would be smart enough to know how to get to the recovery screen from a fully powered down device, since it's model specific.
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If you want to prevent people from clearing the device memory from the Settings UI, you can simply password protect your entire tablet (or portions of the software using App Protector or similar software). You may also want to lock down ADB and Android Market app installs
I don't think that most people would be smart enough to know how to get to the recovery screen from a fully powered down device, since it's model specific.
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While this is a good suggestion, I could quite easily figure out how to get to recovery from any given device. It's really as simple as Googling it. Granted though, most people won't even know what recovery is!
OP, I'm not sure that what you want is available but I'd be very interested in finding this out also!
The thing is that i want people to be able to use it or more specifically connect to a wifi allowing me to...
- Remotely take picture of them...
- keyloging all their facebook/twitter/paypal passwords
- get the location of the device with the gps
And use the information to destroy their life before sending the cops in for the picking...
If the device locks completly they would more then likely trow it in a garbage or have somme tech wiz manualy reset/flash it. My main goal is to bait an idiot into using it and raising the difficulty of resetting the device.
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The thing is that i want people to be able to use it or more specifically connect to a wifi allowing me to...
- Remotely take picture of them...
- keyloging all their facebook/twitter/paypal passwords
- get the location of the device with the gps
And use the information to destroy their life before sending the cops in for the picking...
If the device locks completly they would more then likely trow it in a garbage or have somme tech wiz manualy reset/flash it. My main goal is to bait an idiot into using it and raising the difficulty of resetting the device.
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This strikes me as you wanting to leave a trap allowing you to phish someone's details, more then you wanting to protect your device from theft. Perhaps you are planning to leave the Xoom out for the use of coworkers or fellow students, and harvest their data?
Up until the "keyloging all their facebook/twitter/paypal passwords" you seemed a bit paranoid and draconian, but reasonable...after that, I got a bad feeling about this. Even if you do want it to deal with a possible thief, keylogging their Paypal passwords would make you just as guilty of a crime as the tablet thief...and likely just as open to prosecution.
...leave a trap allowing you to phish someone's details...
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LOL! i admit it may sound like it at first glance. I dont plan leaving it or go "phishing" like you said. I'm not the kind of having the money to trow 500$ and crossing fingers.
All i want is raise my chances of recovering the device should it get stolen. If it's locked then they will just trow it in a garbage or have someone flash it. If it's unlocked then they can use it allowing me to trace it.
would make you just as guilty of a crime as the tablet thief
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I dont plan using the data my self... I was thinking more like posting the thief details on 4chan or other sites like these and post banking info free on underground sites. I dont want their money.
You cant blame me wanting to turn the life of a thief into a living hell for stealing from me
actually we can, you're allowing him to be stolen from all because he stole your tablet? Anyway, just flash tiamat rom 2.0 and add all of those apps to the "first install" or something folder and be done with it.
Just because he stole something of yours doesn't mean you should be alright with him being stolen from. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind dude.
Vellius said:
I dont plan using the data my self... I was thinking more like posting the thief details on 4chan or other sites like these and post banking info free on underground sites. I dont want their money.
You cant blame me wanting to turn the life of a thief into a living hell for stealing from me
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Actually, we can. That's still considered identity theft to a certain extent thus him stealing a 500$ tablet (which may be illegal but no where near identity theft) and then you posting about it in a public forum, thus incriminating yourself. You're pretty open to prosecution now.
Guide: How to haxor anyone that takes your tablet!
Alright, how you want to do this is by taking your left shoulder and putting it infront of you, running at maximum speed, then colliding with a wall. This guide was made to show you, GROW UP AND DEAL WITH YOUR TABLET BEING TAKEN! There are methods for you to be able to get it back if someone does a factory wipe (Tiamats install on first boot folder comes to mind) but aside from that, you shouldn't really have to worry about this, I mean grow up, people have -cars- stolen every day and not all of them have onstar. Deal with the fact your tablet got stolen, file a police report, and cry yourself to sleep. That is all.
OK, this is getting a bit sketchy here. We're not going to discuss how to commit identity theft on XDA, even if the person who steals the tablet is a criminal.
http://bgr.com/2013/08/02/fbi-android-microphone-hack/
Anyone know how this works or how to block it?
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umm wow. that is crazy
I know right. I had no idea something like this was possible.
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How the hell could google decline to comment?!?! This story needs to blow up big time and make google have to respond!
Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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FBI still has to get a warrant
curiousbob said:
As long as NSA does not also have this capability I'm ok. FBI still has to get a warrant to spy on someone like this similar to getting a phone tap.
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And elves live in my garden too.
The government does what ever it wants. The Constitution has become no more than a speedbump to government employees.
anyone?
Any developers have actual thoughts on this question? If the FBI can do it, it stands to reason that anyone can do it. It would be good to know if this exploit can be blocked by root users.
Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
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Surprised that XDAers don't want to figure this one out.
Pretty conformist for a site for custom software.
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How do you know someone is not already working on it? You have to understand that this type of coding would be system wide and hidden very well. It may very well take an entire re-write of the whole OS to remove. Also this is not a custom software site. It is a site to help people learn to do things on their own.
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How do you know someone is not already working on it?
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You'd know better than I would. Are they?
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You'd know better than I would. Are they?
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I wouldn't know any more then you as I am not working on it. This is something that would be kept close to the chest as the min it was released it would be patched. Mainly now that they are using free lance hackers to look for exploits.
Wayne Tech Nexus
It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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X10D3 said:
It has to be switched on somewhere. Even if it is system wide...
Htm.... I wonder how much Apple paid for this article....
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Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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They do say that it's being done by hackers. Usually by an exploit, spyware, etc. There may not be any bugs in AOSP, and it very well could be in carrier/manufacturer programming.
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I wouldn't call it a "bug" if it's being purposely put into the code.
What I am getting is it's being done by the FBI, not "hackers."
http://propakistani.pk/2013/08/02/f...r-android-phone-mic-or-laptop-cameras-report/
"Hacker" seems to just be any word the media uses for anyone who does something questionable on a computer or phone.
I use a Nexus 4 (pure AOSP code) and I would think they could do this to my phone just as easily as say an SGS4 or what have you..
This article seems to indicate that it's not a deliberate backdoor, but an actual exploit that's giving them the mic access. They also mention laptops (obviously not running Android) so I think it's more likely they're just hacking these platforms and using their new privileges to turn the mic on.
Also if you think about it, the mic isn't a restricted device on Linux or Windows. You can touch it without any special permission, so they wouldn't have to completely own your device to listen in on you.
meangreenie said:
Bomb bomb terrorist attack paroxide jihaad president ala Iran Jew plot bin laden Arabian afganistan ...bla bla bla 911 77 government Cameron Obama explosive detonator kill kidnap ....
I wonder if my mic has been switched on?
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Best laugh I've had all day.
Thank you
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orangekid said:
Pretty sure Apple has the same thing built into iOS.
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@jcase might be able to give some insight as to how hard this would be to circumvent,
I would think you'd need a kernel level manual override of drivers where x driver cannot be activated under any circumstance unless you manually allow it, kind of like asking for SU permissions, then you use a third party dialer that you personally coded or something of the sort.
I mean you'd basically have to go through the AOSP code line by line I would think to actually locate this.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists. Don't install random apps you dont trust, stay away from malware and use an international carrier unbranded phone that gets updates frequently (S4 (GT-i9500) and unbranded HTC One likely fit this description, so do GPE devices). Also, most custom roms are horribly outdated as far as security patches go.
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I call BS on any FBI microphone backdoor without hard evidence. Possibility of state sponsored malware that does it? Certainly exists..
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This wouldnt surprise me after reading that they are using free lance hackers to find exploits in different OS.
Hi Everyone! I need help to find a solution to this silly issue. I have a customer who has a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 and it so happened he forgot his screen lock pin. I also tried to get it fixed using Samsung's find my device to bypass it unfortunately his Samsung account is not activated on his device. Is there any workaround that can be done to bypass the phone screen lock without the need of wiping it? Thanks in advance!
PS: very important files are inside his device and wiping is never an option for him.
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Hi Everyone! I need help to find a solution to this silly issue. I have a customer who has a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 and it so happened he forgot his screen lock pin. I also tried to get it fixed using Samsung's find my device to bypass it unfortunately his Samsung account is not activated on his device. Is there any workaround that can be done to bypass the phone screen lock without the need of wiping it? Thanks in advance!
PS: very important files are inside his device and wiping is never an option for him.
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Nope, not possible.
If you have your own business, it seems like you would make good money advertising a service to help your customers ensure that their data is backed up at all times, for situations like this
iBowToAndroid said:
Nope, not possible.
If you have your own business, it seems like you would make good money advertising a service to help your customers ensure that their data is backed up at all times, for situations like this
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Lol, yeah I agree with you. I guess it's a dead end for that guy. It's a big mistake that he forgot to activate Samsung account on his Fold. In fact both of his Galaxy fold, it's not activated.
ShinGaiven said:
Lol, yeah I agree with you. I guess it's a dead end for that guy. It's a big mistake that he forgot to activate Samsung account on his Fold. In fact both of his Galaxy fold, it's not activated.
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I feel like most people do not set up a Samsung account. I personally would have no use for one. But, it is very nice that they added the option to remotely back up your PIN/password (I think they started doing that 2 years ago). So for someone who may forget their PIN, yes, it would be nice to have
It used to be against the rules here, or at least frowned upon, to discuss how to defeat security measures such as FRP here. Just FYI. Prevents thieves from coming here and learning how to get into devices they stole.
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It used to be against the rules here, or at least frowned upon, to discuss how to defeat security measures such as FRP here. Just FYI. Prevents thieves from coming here and learning how to get into devices they stole.
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You're aware that not everyone with an FRP problem is a thief, correct?
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You're aware that not everyone with an FRP problem is a thief, correct?
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You're aware I never said everyone was, right?
Reading comprehension is a skill....
I've tried it all making my own combo rom downloading's from multiple sources multiple odin versions nothing is working it is literally costing me money and sleep i need this phone to work asap i cant find the right forum or am to stupid to know what the right one is would really really appreciate an answer asap on this like my whole show is depending on it and I'm failing badly id love a step by step for dummies concerning frp removal or bypass for this modal its s9 Verizon on 10 usqu9fue1 please thankyou
To disable / remove FRP lock you
either
delete your Google account on phone
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do a Factory Reset
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To disable / remove FRP lock you
either
delete your Google account on phone
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do a Factory Reset
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Factory reset doesn't remove FRP lock, that actually puts the device in a state of being FRP locked if FRP/Find My Device hasn't been disabled BEFORE doing the factory reset.
Droidriven said:
Factory reset doesn't remove FRP lock, that actually puts the device in a state of being FRP locked if FRP/Find My Device hasn't been disabled BEFORE doing the factory reset.
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Wtfanyone that actually has a clue care to help me out....wow just....wow
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To disable / remove FRP lock you
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delete your Google account on phone
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No why are u answering questions fr like....wtf
Jessicad89 said:
Wtfanyone that actually has a clue care to help me out....wow just....wow
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Not all devices are equal, therefore, the fix to this varies from one device to the next. Also, giving you the solution also makes the solution available to people that are trying to find a way to remove FRP lock from devices that are not rightfully theirs, such as stolen devices. To avoid potentially aiding someone in gaining access to devices and personal data that is not theirs, we typically don't answer. We also don't know if the device you are trying to access is actually yours, I mean, it isn't like we can take your word for it because you could be lying to us and we wouldn't know, not that you are, just saying that it is an uncertain scenario. It isn't specifically against the forum rules but its kind of an unspoken rule because it is a grey area that is best to stay out of.
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Not all devices are equal, therefore, the fix to this varies from one device to the next. Also, giving you the solution also makes the solution available to people that are trying to find a way to remove FRP lock from devices that are not rightfully theirs, such as stolen devices. To avoid potentially aiding someone in gaining access to devices and personal data that is not theirs, we typically don't answer. We also don't know if the device you are trying to access is actually yours, I mean, it isn't like we can take your word for it because you could be lying to us and we wouldn't know, not that you are, just saying that it is an uncertain scenario. It isn't specifically against the forum rules but its kind of an unspoken rule because it is a grey area that is best to stay out of.
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that is an asinine approach and a terrible mentality why wuld you even take the time to tell me that load of hogwash, is isnt my fault thaat production companies are struggling ith security and have terrible answers i provide the information needed to identify the correct procedure u know...the modal number build ect. i am somewhat appalled by this response as it has wasted both of our time, i live in America where your innocent till proven guilty not assumed potentially guilty at all times i will find an answer regardless of your counterproductive rathole ideology concerning information. heres whos fault it is if a device is stolen...the owners security is my responsibility concerning my things and that goes across the board worldwide. but i do appreciate well nothing about what you've said here. quite the opposite google its he evil empire and the "solution" of frp is absolutely a wash but thanks anyways
Wondering why you not simply do a Google search for it, if the answer given here isn't what you expected to be, instead of ranting around here?
BTW:
The Factory Reset Protection (FRP) is regulated in the US via the Smartphone Theft Prevention Act of 2015. The Act requires device manufacturers to feature a so-called "kill switch". The purpose of the kill switch was to discourage smartphone theft by dramatically reducing resale value of stolen devices.
Jessicad89 said:
that is an asinine approach and a terrible mentality why wuld you even take the time to tell me that load of hogwash, is isnt my fault thaat production companies are struggling ith security and have terrible answers i provide the information needed to identify the correct procedure u know...the modal number build ect. i am somewhat appalled by this response as it has wasted both of our time, i live in America where your innocent till proven guilty not assumed potentially guilty at all times i will find an answer regardless of your counterproductive rathole ideology concerning information. heres whos fault it is if a device is stolen...the owners security is my responsibility concerning my things and that goes across the board worldwide. but i do appreciate well nothing about what you've said here. quite the opposite google its he evil empire and the "solution" of frp is absolutely a wash but thanks anyways
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Just because it isn't the reply that you wanted, does not make it hogwash. If you can't understand the logic of what I said, that's your failing, not mine. I don't care what you appreciate or don't, that has nothing to do with anything. Thinking like that only makes you the one with the personal problem, not us. FRP exists for a very good reason, one that is understandably inconvenient for you in the current circumstances. It has nothing to do with guilt, no one labeled you or assumed you to be guilty, don't take it personal and drop the attitude.
But, hey, nevermind the fact that FRP exists for a reason, let's just ignore that just for you since it is you and you are so special that we should help you while at the same time making it easier for actual thieves to be able to use and resale devices that they've stolen, let's enable criminal activity just to help you since you're so special, right? Get real!
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Just because it isn't the reply that you wanted, does not make it hogwash. If you can't understand the logic of what I said, that's your failing, not mine. I don't care what you appreciate or don't, that has nothing to do with anything. Thinking like that only makes you the one with the personal problem, not us. FRP exists for a very good reason, one that is understandably inconvenient for you in the current circumstances. It has nothing to do with guilt, no one labeled you or assumed you to be guilty, don't take it personal and drop the attitude.
But, hey, nevermind the fact that FRP exists for a reason, let's just ignore that just for you since it is you and you are so special that we should help you while at the same time making it easier for actual thieves to be able to use and resale devices that they've stolen, let's enable criminal activity just to help you since you're so special, right? Get real!
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i care so little about what you have to say i didn't even read that dribble and will continue that policy throughout our relationship ill get it either way thought i would give xda a shot if your representative of the body of knowledge and attitude here it as a mistake to be certain
Jessicad89 said:
i care so little about what you have to say i didn't even read that dribble and will continue that policy throughout our relationship ill get it either way thought i would give xda a shot if your representative of the body of knowledge and attitude here it as a mistake to be certain
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Do you think your opinion matters to anyone here? Do you think your attitude makes you superior somehow? It actually achieves quite the opposite, but please, continue proving me right, I know you've got more big talk in there somewhere because that is all you have, which is nothing.
HI, my stepmoms brother recently passed away and she is asking me if there is any way to unlock his phone. She wants to extract the photos and check the messages for anything pertaining to his death. The sim card was empty
We dont have his samsung account and cant unlock it that way. The USB Debugging is turned off and the phone is not rooted.
Is there anyway to turn on ADB via recovery mode or anything like that? iOS had tons of lockscreen bypasses years ago, are there any for android? Thanks very much
No.
You need a data recovery specialist. Not sure if they can with a screen lock or not... probably not.
That be your best shot.
My thought is if he wanted it to be accessible he wouldn't have locked it...
blackhawk said:
No.
You need a data recovery specialist. Not sure if they can with a screen lock or not... probably not.
That be your best shot.
My thought is if he wanted it to be accessible he wouldn't have locked it...
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I lock my phone so my kids don't see a dirty pic or something. When I'm dead I probably won't have time to unlock it and I hope someone would help my family.
I used software back In the day to recover **** on a locked I phone 5 that my stepson forgot his info to. It wasn't complete data but got alot of photos back and scrambled texts. Obviously it's not a good idea of there's sensitive info but he was young and the phone was done for.
It advertised android but this was 4 years ago. It was sold under the guise of parental control/monitoring. Recovery.
Ry4n83 said:
I lock my phone so my kids don't see a dirty pic or something. When I'm dead I probably won't have time to unlock it and I hope someone would help my family.
I used software back In the day to recover **** on a locked I phone 5 that my stepson forgot his info to. It wasn't complete data but got alot of photos back and scrambled texts. Obviously it's not a good idea of there's sensitive info but he was young and the phone was done for.
It advertised android but this was 4 years ago. It was sold under the guise of parental control/monitoring. Recovery.
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You're point?
If the data is important than amateur attempts can complicate recovery or make it impossible if it is possible at all.
Even if recovered the file structure is destroyed which has far reaching consequences and limitations.
When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
As for kids maybe you need to be more of an open book or get use to the fact the book maybe locked till the end of time.
My original thought on the matter stands, the owner wanted it for their eyes only.
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You're point?
If the data is important than amateur attempts can complicate recovery or make it impossible if it is possible at all.
Even if recovered the file structure is destroyed which has far reaching consequences and limitations.
When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
As for kids maybe you need to be more of an open book or get use to the fact the book maybe locked till the end of time.
My original thought on the matter stands, the owner wanted it for their eyes only.
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Man I was just trying to give them a glimmer of hope. I wasnt trying to claim your ethical stance isn't on point. Hell alot of devices require a lock to use stuff. So if by chance there are special photos maybe there's still a chance. I wasn't trying to be right or wrong just that it was possible at one point. Sorry my intent wasn't a disagreement just felt some sympathy for the situation. Have a good one.
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Man I was just trying to give them a glimmer of hope. I wasnt trying to claim your ethical stance isn't on point. Hell alot of devices require a lock to use stuff. So if by chance there are special photos maybe there's still a chance. I wasn't trying to be right or wrong just that it was possible at one point. Sorry my intent wasn't a disagreement just felt some sympathy for the situation. Have a good one.
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Point is you're likely to do more damage than good if you don't know what you're doing.
Simply booting up the device risks overwriting the deleted data. It's unassigned disk space now, free for system use. A hands on recovery expert is the OP's best shot.
I wuv philosophical debates; you opened that door.
In reality we have no clue who this online OP is or who's phone it was. My empathy tends to go to whoever locked the device.
When I lock something it's with the intent I will be unlocking it. Unless I give someone the key as well...
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When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
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Totally agree with this.
@Ry4n83
My grandchilds all got a cheap phone with NO Internet access, only for calling. So it's granted they can't access stuff what isn't good for their mind.