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Google delays Android 3.0 for tablet makers

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2037393/google-delays-android-smartphone-makers
Bummer.

Your a bit late buddy

Maybe its not the same new, as this one seem to said that gg is DELAY it to refind the code for orther device, not like the 1st new as gg will not release the code to dev

g0t0 said:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2037393/google-delays-android-smartphone-makers
Bummer.
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not 100% true. I just read it from another Android forum (androidtablets.net)
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Google has decided to delay the release of the Honeycomb source-code to the general public for now. If you are a member of the Open Handset Alliance you can get access to 3.0. Also, other manufacturers are able to get access to the source-code upon request, but only for use on tablets. Ultimately, Google wants to avoid contaminating Android's marketing image because some low-end device makers forced out buggy "Honeycomb phones". Here's what Andy Rubin, CEO of Google had to say on the matter
Tablet makers can still request the source code but must be used for tablets only. it is making sense to me. The response does sound fair to me.. I hope that it is really what Google plans to do..

SO Viewsonic Could Get accses to 3.0 if they ask for it even if they are not apart of the OHA then?
Viewsonic PLEASE ASK!!!!!!!

I think this is good news:
Google's statement continued to say that it will publish the source "as soon as it's ready".
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But i thought ice cream was the one to merge honeycomb and gingerbread; not honeycomb itself.

So do we need to take up a collection to get this thing started or do I need to call google and pretend I'm mr Viewsonic.

Just saw this on the net, and if true, pretty much kills any chance of seeing honeycomb from viewsonic
http://thenextweb.com/google/2011/0...-partners-with-lg-to-launch-new-nexus-tablet/
"Also included in Murtazin’s report was the suggestion that Google will not allow tablets running Android 2.x to receive a Honeycomb upgrade in the future. Apparently, if a hardware partner releases a tablet on an older version of Android, the Honeycomb licensing agreement will not allow them to be updated.
If the rumour is true, owners of the 7-inch Samsung Galaxy Tab, HTC Scribe and numerous other tablets will be locked to their current firmware, at best receiving an update to Froyo or Gingerbread."

lordgodgeneral said:
"Also included in Murtazin’s report was the suggestion that Google will not allow tablets running Android 2.x to receive a Honeycomb upgrade in the future. Apparently, if a hardware partner releases a tablet on an older version of Android, the Honeycomb licensing agreement will not allow them to be updated.
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Google is punishing vendors who didn't follow their orders.....just because they can. There is no other logical explaination....especially when 1. it's a tablet, 2. it has proper hardware to support honeycomb.

News about upgrading from 2.x to Honeycreams

http://androidcommunity.com/google-blocking-android-2-x-to-3-0-updates-for-tablets-20110328/
Just read the above article, wanted to see what other people thought about it. It seems like kind of a kick-in-the-balls plan from google, but then again, I'm not really worried about the G-tab getting an official 3.0 release. Since were using most of the base hardware that 3.0 was designed around, I'm sure someone will get a port eventually, it would just be nice to get a bit more support from the big G.

Well there's always ice cream comb

Ok. Google taking the right steps to be a real threat for mac.
I thought we prefered android because of its differences from mac and not their similarities.

Et tu, Goggle?

And 10.000 Gtabs has been sold at a very big discount one day before this new is made public. Business is business
BR

well this news has a huge suck factor.

Keep in mind that this "news" is just an unsubstantiated rumor. Nothing to see here. Move along.

jsrF1 said:
Keep in mind that this "news" is just an unsubstantiated rumor. Nothing to see here. Move along.
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Hope it stays unsubstantiated. Otherwise, ginormous suck factor.

As much as I love the honeycomb UI, there is really nothing wrong with 2.2 and 2.3. In fact, to make myself feel better, I just think of honeycomb as android with additional bloatware...which I'm sure is true to a point.

TheFlyingPig said:
As much as I love the honeycomb UI, there is really nothing wrong with 2.2 and 2.3. In fact, to make myself feel better, I just think of honeycomb as android with additional bloatware...which I'm sure is true to a point.
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I don't care for the UI too but I do care about the Honeycomb optimized apps. This is really the only reason why I wanted Honeycomb.

This is not surprising.
On ZDNET (slash) blog (slash) google (slash) google-android-30-honeycomb-open-source-no-more (slash) 2845
They had to take a lot of shortcuts and strip things down for XOOM to meet the deadline. Just wait for 3.1 when they Open Source it again.

xmr405o said:
I don't care for the UI too but I do care about the Honeycomb optimized apps. This is really the only reason why I wanted Honeycomb.
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Same here -- it's a waste to not use that increased resolution and screen size on tablet-optimized apps.

beebop483 said:
http://androidcommunity.com/google-blocking-android-2-x-to-3-0-updates-for-tablets-20110328/
Just read the above article, wanted to see what other people thought about it. It seems like kind of a kick-in-the-balls plan from google, but then again, I'm not really worried about the G-tab getting an official 3.0 release. Since were using most of the base hardware that 3.0 was designed around, I'm sure someone will get a port eventually, it would just be nice to get a bit more support from the big G.
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They are delaying because the source code isn't ready it will remain open source and available to all devices. Google made that statement 3 days ago. Would post the article but I am on gtab. Either it was on market watch, wall street journal, new York times, eweek, infoworld of another site I frequent.
It is however old news.

I put a post in the one of the threads about the release delay on honeycomb. Google partnered up with LG for doing a Nexus Tablet (supposed to out ~July) and Google will not release honeycomb source till after the release of the Nexus Tab, (~Aug)
Also it mentioned that something about the licensing agreement needed for using 3.x that it cannot be put on a device running 2.x.

lol, like many ppl here are actually waiting for an "official" version.

lordgodgeneral said:
I put a post in the one of the threads about the release delay on honeycomb. Google partnered up with LG for doing a Nexus Tablet (supposed to out ~July) and Google will not release honeycomb source till after the release of the Nexus Tab, (~Aug)
Also it mentioned that something about the licensing agreement needed for using 3.x that it cannot be put on a device running 2.x.
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And would you mind sharing the source of these stated facts, or are you merely speculating?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12457747&postcount=8
Here's the link to my response in the other honeycomb thread.
Here's the link to the actual article
http://thenextweb.com/google/2011/0...-partners-with-lg-to-launch-new-nexus-tablet/
Also anyone should know that until there is an official announcement anything being discussed is speculation, so get off your high horse.

I read that as Google not allowing manufacturers to upgrade 2.x tablets, not they the would not release it to the community until after the Nexus tablet launch.
Also included in Murtazin’s report was the suggestion that Google will not allow tablets running Android 2.x to receive a Honeycomb upgrade in the future. Apparently, if a hardware partner releases a tablet on an older version of Android, the Honeycomb licensing agreement will not allow them to be updated.
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this seems to be the Google official position about HC:
Google has decided to delay the release of the Honeycomb source-code to the general public for now. If you are a member of the Open Handset Alliance you can get access to 3.0. Also, other manufacturers are able to get access to the source-code upon request, but only for use on tablets. Ultimately, Google wants to avoid contaminating Android's marketing image because some low-end device makers forced out buggy "Honeycomb phones". Here's what Andy Rubin, CEO of Google had to say on the matter,
Android 3.0, Honeycomb, was designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes and improves on Android favorites such as widgets, multi-tasking, browsing, notifications and customization…We didn’t want to think about what it would take for the same software to run on phones. It would have required a lot of additional resources and extended our schedule beyond what we thought was reasonable. So we took a shortcut. While we’re excited to offer these new features to Android tablets, we have more work to do before we can deliver them to other device types including phones… Until then, we’ve decided not to release Honeycomb to open source.
Before anyone could cry foul and compare Google to Apple, Mr. Rubin added,
"[Google is] committed to providing Android as an open platform across many device types and will publish the source as soon as it’s ready."
It is probably a bit nerve racking for developers and enthusiasts that Google has taken this step. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that they intend to begin "locking down" the product, but one could also look at it from the standpoint that Google is serious about protecting 'Andy' from being "dumbed-down" too much. Also, this fine-tuning process will help them nail-down extra security measures to help reduce malware issues in the future. What do you guys think? Is this a signal of sad times for Android, or just smart business strategy?
Source: AndroidTablets.net via AndroidPolice

Its simple really- for any android tablet to compete with the ipad it needs to be semi bulletproof as far as stability goes and quality of UI etc. This is the only way google is going to be able achieve this. They will release it. When they choose is going to be carefully timed.

Official GB to come this summer

In my sadness of downgrading back to froyo, I asked HTC when their official release of gb would be out and got this email:
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Unfortunately, Summer 2011 means anything between April and September.

why can't google make something like where you download os update separate from vendors? so you can update your phone to latest without bringing in useless vendor who only if something slows things down?!

thats what they said before the phone was launched, initially it was june, it might happen since we already had a leak that was pretty stable other than the radio and camera app, so keep your fingers crossed. I am thinking at the end of june.

Free wireless hotspot promo ends June 15 and VZW already said it would be disabled with an ota. Hopefully that will be our gingerbread also.
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a1exus said:
why can't google make something like where you download os update separate from vendors? so you can update your phone to latest without bringing in useless vendor who only if something slows things down?!
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it could happen if google had a list of parts vendors are allowed to use. Everyone uses different cpu's, gps chips, wifi, and crap and that's why the os is so fragmented. If google had a set standard for hardware specs it wouldn't be so hard.
Android will always be fragmented, It doesn't mean how many companies sign up for the promised os updates for 18 months. This is one thing that is bad about android. My next phone will be google branded, atleast it has the best support possible.

Didn't they set up like a committee thing with all the companies to speed up the updating process?

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Didn't they set up like a committee thing with all the companies to speed up the updating process?
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Those same companies would also prefer that you purchase a new phone rather than have to support their existing ones.

Im not going to hold my breath waiting for Verizon. Maybe for a more stable leaked release.

If you're going to run with a rooted Bolt you're not going to care when Verizon releases the OTA because by the time they actually do it just about everyone in this forum will be running the leaked (& safe for rooted bolts) radios and ROM of some kind.
We'll also probably see the OTA weeks before VZW acutally pushes it (unless somehow jcase and company can't get their hands on a leaked version and make it safe for rooted phones before the OTA pushes...which I wouldn't bet money on.)

maybe it the start of OZ's summer, so that would make it like december.

Wonder where these leaks come from?

I am more excited about all ROMs moving to GB with stable base. The community ROMs work so much better than the vendor released for my taste.

Unpacked event delayed, Nexus Prime and ICS delayed.

Nexus Prime and Ice Cream Sandwhich announcment delayed.
Official Statement: "Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced."
Guess We'll have to wait .
Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unp...us_prime_and_ics_to_shine_later-news-3245.php

It is probably almost certain that the announcement is delayed, not the actual launch.

yes we know, due Apple loss of its leader
a wise move by Samsung & Google, as the end users are only mourning, no one will care about a shiny new product

Android 4.4 KitKat

Google announced today that the successor to the Android "Jelly Bean" OS will be named Android 4.4 "KitKat" instead of the highly anticipated and rumored Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" OS. As of the initial announcement today, no "real" information or details have been released to the public. Over the coming weeks, many rumors and supposed "leaks" will indeed pop up regarding Google's new "Kit Kat."
Android.com - http://www.android.com/kitkat/index.html
Android Google+ Page - https://plus.google.com/+android/posts/fuhQneSFKZX
XDA-Developers - http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-announces-android-4-4-kitkat/
ABC News - http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/android-44-kit-kat-google-teams-nestle-version/story?id=20146239
Nestle's "Kit Kat® 4.4: The future of confectionery has arrived" Homepage - (This is a really neat page..check it out) - http://kitkat.com/#/home
----Kit Kat in Space on YouTube(From the Nestle page above) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIhPDuvr3No
What are your thoughts?

I think kitkat sucks for a name honestly.
Excited for the OS tho.

Everyone did a great job keeping the name secret. Pretty hard to keep things private these days.
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Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.

awenthol said:
Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.
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Good luck with that switch to an inferior OS with no app development. Let me know how that goes for you.

I don't think it'll cheapen the os. I think its gonna being in revenue for both of them. Selling out would be like giving the os to one OEM and doing like apple.
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awenthol said:
Company that makes it's money off adverts or not, this is embarrassing....definition of selling out.
This will "cheapen" Android to the point where I will go back to WinMo if the next version is not generic.
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No money exchanged hands for this partnership, it's just 2 companies working together to help promote each other. I think it's great.

airmaxx23 said:
No money exchanged hands for this partnership, it's just 2 companies working together to help promote each other. I think it's great.
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Yep, I thought it was a revenue-generating deal at first. Then I read a few articles and I learned otherwise. I think it's a great thing for both companies. I just think the name is a little "off," if you will...

Especially from a company named Google

SO??
Google is a marketing company,not a software company. That's all,

I would be so damn happy if this version of Android were to be released for our beloved GS3 (as in, Samsung making the all-mighty "hail mary pass," and skipping the previous versions up to this one), however seeing as how we have yet to even receive Android 4.2.2, a year old release might I add, I have a feeling we will be left out in the cold yet again. And of course this is just my luck; started into Android with the Droid 2 Global and got shafted in terms of updates, moved up the Droid Bionic and yet again got shafted with regards to updates, and here we are with Samsung.
Edit: After reading some more into KitKat and finding the motto of 4.4, "to make an amazing Android experience available for everybody," a little of my hope has been restored.