I wrote this up for people interested in seeing what they could purchase currently out there on the market without being bumped up for an AT&T plan.
This list probably doesn't concern most people on XDA on Tmobile and CDMA carriers, but for those looking for a savings this is where it's at.
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General disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you get bumped up on a smartphone plan.
Please do proper research and googling and make sure you have the right phone before putting your SIM in.
If you get bumped to a smartphone plan, be prepared to contact your AT&T CSR with the IMEI of a dumbphone and ask them to set it for you.
Ask questions here or check with the specific forums before attempting if you're not sure.
What the AT&T dumbphone / medianet/family plan is for:
Some rundown and pricing details in this post: [URL]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26201562#post26201562[/URL]
A data plan used for 'dumbphones' and IMEI of phones not stored in AT&T's IMEI database,
which is not limited to android and smartphones. Technically, any phone capable of retrieving
UMTS/3G/HSPA 850mhz/1900mhz bands is capable of accessing this service.
Whether or not the device is stored in AT&T's database is another question.
This lets you keep using the AT&T service without having to add another contract,
or continue using an existing one without upgrading.
There are 4 options:
- Grandfathered MediaNet users pay $10/month for unlimited data for one line.
- Current Regular single line users pay $15/month for unlimited data for one line.
- Current Family plan users can pay $10/month for 1 line with unlimited data with the bundled with $30 messaging unlimited for all lines.
- Current Family plan users can pay $15/month for a single line for unlimited data only.
This allows end users to:
A) Continue to get an unlimited service for cheaper (although we speculate there is a threshhold before they start watching you)
B) Pay $10-15 less a month
C) Keep your old plan, no subsidized prices for new phones
Generally, any of the following world carriers should release phones that are on their UMTS(3G) 850 and 1900 MHz bands, making it compatible in the USA for 3G: Rogers (Canada), Telus (Canada), Fido (Canada), Bell (Canada), Virgin Mobile (Canada), Sasktel (Canada), movistar (South America), Claro (South America). It's important to know that the phone you get has radios for the UMTS 850 UMTS 1900 bands, since AT&T operates on both frequency sets in the USA.
Most if not all T-mobile model/branded phones (affixed on digitizer) are likely flagged as of 2012.
AT&T have detected the following phones in their system (flagged list):
HTC
HTC Desire HD Released October 2010 - Reported flagged sometime near end of 2013 Q4.
HTC One Released March 2013 - AT&T may send message about adding an LTE plan. HTC One models (link).
Droid DNA USA Verizon Released November 2012 - Reported flagged Q1 2013.
One X International (Tegra) s720e Released May 2012 - Reported flagged Q1 2013.
One S International + USA T-mobile z520m Released April 2012 - Both versions reported flagged Q4 2012.
Amaze 4G USA T-mobile x715m Released October 2011 - the USA T-mobile version reported flagged in Q1 2013. Unknown for international x715m.
Vivid USA / Raider International x710a Released October 2011 - Reports that this is flagged Q3 2013.
Radar USA T-mobile c110e (Windows Phone) Released September 2011 - flagged with T-mobile batch of Q1 2013.
Nexus One Released January 2010 - Few reports of medianet-plan working handsets.
HD2 USA T-mobile t8585 (Windows Phone) Released October 2009 - (No 1900 band). Reported flagged Q1 2013. Unknown for international variant.
Samsung
Galaxy S IV International i9500 (Exynos) Released March 2013 - Reported flagged Q2 2013.
Galaxy S IV USA AT&T/T-mobile/Google (google edition) i9505 (Snapdragon) Released March 2013 - Reported flagged Q2 2013.
Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet n8000 (Exynos) Released August 2012 - Reported flagged Q1 2013.
Galaxy Tab 7.7 International Tablet p6800 (Exynos) Released September 2011 - Has been flagged with AT&T, tested Q2 2013.
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus International Tablet p6200 (Exynos) Released September 2011 - Reported flagged with T-mobile batch Q4 2012.
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus USA T-mobile Tablet sgh-t869 (Exynos) Released November 2011 - Most likely flagged with T-mobile Q4 2012.
Galaxy Tab 7.0 Tablet p3100 (TI OMAP) Released February 2012 - Reported flagged Q4 2012.
Galaxy Note II USA Verizon sch-i605 (Exynos) Released November 2012 - Reported flagged Q3 2013.
Galaxy Note II International n7100 (Exynos) Released August 2012 - Reported flagged late 2012/early 2013.
Galaxy Note II Canada sgh-i317m (Exynos) Released November 2012 - Reported flagged Q4 2012.
Galaxy Note II USA T-mobile t889 (Exynos) Released November 2012 - Reported flagged with T-mobile batch Q4 2012.
Galaxy S III International i9300 (Exynos) Released May 2012 - Mostly flagged Q4 2012.
Galaxy S III Korea shv-e210k (Exynos) Released May 2012 - Flagged Q2 2014.
Galaxy S III Canada sgh-i747m (Snapdragon) Released July 2012 - Reported flagged Q2 2013.
Galaxy S III USA T-mobile t999 (Snapdragon) Released June 2012 - Flagged Q1 2013
Galaxy Note I International n7000 (Exynos) Released September 2011 - Some variants reported flagged 2012.
Galaxy S II International i9100 (Exynos) Released April 2011 - Int'l flagged. White i9100 IMEI is seen as blackberry. Black is now flagged Q2 2013.
Galaxy S II Canada i9100m (Exynos) Released April 2011 - Some reported flagged Q1-Q2 2013. White IMEI will be tagged as blackberry.
Galaxy S II LTE i727r (Snapdragon) Released July 2011 - Reported flagged Q1, Q3 2013.
Galaxy S II USA T-mobile t989 (Snapdragon) Released October 2011 - Mostly flagged, Q1 2013.
Galaxy Nexus International i9250 (TI OMAP) Released November 2011- Flagged Q4 2012.
Galaxy Nexus Canada i9250M (TI OMAP) Released November 2011- Authentic IMEI is and flagged in OLAM Q4 2013.
Galaxy Nexus Docomo Japan SC-04D (TI OMAP) Released November 2011- Authentic IMEI is tested and flagged in OLAM Q3 2013.
Galaxy S Blaze 4G USA T-mobile t769 Released March 2012 - Flagged with T-mobile batch.
Exhibit II 4G USA T-mobile t679 Released October 2011 - T-mobile, some reported flagged in Q4 2012.
Nexus S i9020 Released April 2011- Flagged sometime in 2011.
Vibrant t959 USA T-mobile Released June 2010 - Only gets EDGE, found to be flagged with T-mobile batch.
LG
Optimus 4X HD p880 Released June 2012 - Reported flagged late 2013, Q4.
Optimus L9 USA T-mobile p769 Released November 2012 - Reported no longer working Q3 2013.
Optimus G e971 Released November 2012 - Flagged Q2 2013.
Nexus 4 e960 Global/Google Store/T-mobile Released November 2012 - Flagged Q4 2012.
Optimus 3D p920 Released January 2011 - (No 1900 band). Reported not working Q1 2013.
Optimus T USA T-mobile p509 Released October 2010 - EDGE device. Flagged with t-mobile batch of 2012.
Sony
Xperia Z C6603/C6602 Released February 2013 - Some reported flagged Q2 2013.
Xperia U ST25a Released May 2012 - Some reported flagged Q1 2013.
Xperia S LT26i Released February 2012 - Some reported flagged Q1 2013.
Xperia acro S LT26w Released August 2012 - Some reported flagged Q3 2013.
Xperia P LT22i Released February 2012 - Some reported flagged Q1 2013.
Arc S LT18a Released September 2011 - Seen as palm treo imei.
Motorola
Droid Razr I GSM xt890 - Released October 2012 - Flagged Q2 2014.
Droid Razr M Verizon xt907 - Released September 2012 - Flagged Q2 2014.
Droid Razr HD International/GSM - xt926 Released September 2012 - Reported as Droid 4 in OLAM Q3 2013.
Verizon Droid Razr HD CDMA (GSM unlock) - xt925 Released September 2012 - Likely will be flagged as above
Motorola Defy International - MB525 / a8120 Released November 2010 - was working for years until flagged Q4 2013.
Other
Verizon iPhone 5 - Reported Flagged Q2 2013.
How to check if your device is flagged in AT&T IMEI Database: there are 2 ways, both end up on the same page.
If you just recently got flagged (text message saying smartphone plan) then you need to wait a set amount of time before it will show up in OLAM. Maybe around 1-2 days
1) Go to http://wireless.att.com
2) Log in to your account thru OLAM (On-Line Account Management)
3) Check if your phone shows up with a generic icon or actual photo (see below)
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4a) Method 1 (thanks to lovem): Go to http://www.att.com/devicehowto/
5a) On the top left where it shows your current device, see if you have a generic phone icon. To check your other lines click "Change" and you will see your list of devices.
6a) If your device shows up as "unknown unknown", your IMEI has not been detected by AT&T.
7a) If you're undetected, profit. $$$
4b) Method 2 (thanks to sucss): If you already have a phone/line identified in the database (with photo), click the phone.
5b) Click "View Tutorials for this device"
6b) Click "Change" and look for the phone/line
7b) If you're undetected, profit. $$$
(01/02/2014) - Optimus 4X HD p880, Desire HD A9191
(09/04/2013) - Motorola Defy MB525
(09/04/2013) - Galaxy Nexus Docomo
(09/01/2013) - updated VZW GN2, i727r
(07/20/2013) - Added Raider, Xperia Z
(07/20/2013) - Added xt926, xt925, p769, acro S
(07/08/2013) - Added i9500, i9505
(06/08/2013) - Added i747m
(05/28/2013) - Added P6800
(05/01/2013) - Added OLAM section
(04/08/2013) - LG Optimus G (e971)
(04/05/2013) - added Galaxy Tab 7.0, Plus
(03/05/2013) - added Galaxy Note 10.1
(02/27/2013) - revamped list to non-working phones
(10/31/2012) - added One S, t999, Meizu MX.
(10/14/2012) - updated some flagged Samsungs, added LG p880, Sony Xperia models
(05/28/2012) - Sony Xperia Neo V (thanks shsplaying), LG G2x (thanks sk337sk337)
(05/16/2012) - Added: HTC One X
(03/29/2012) - Added: T-Mobile Amaze 4G, Galaxy Note i717R, T-Mobile Radar
(03/22/2012) - Corrected Desire model 8181>8182 (thanks BodenM)
(03/11/2012) - Added Galaxy S, Droid Pro, Droid 2 Global, LG Thrill
(02/08/2012) - Added Windows Phone section (Post #2 below)
(02/08/2012) - Added 3 SGS II variants
(01/22/2012) - Added general UMTS information, carrier names, instructions for downgrading plan
(01/21/2012) - Added missing codes for HTC Magic & Hero, Amaze 4G, Galaxy Note, Xiaomi M1
(01/14/2012) - Original release
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Phones likely working or tested working with HSPA/3G data bands
If you want to contribute a phone model, post in the thread.
To find phones, you can try gsmarena.com, pdadb.net and other phone database sites.
Some listing of Pentaband phones, find a carrier with their own version of the phone: http://awslookup.com/pentaband-phones/
HTC
Evo 3D NAM/Canada - x515a - Released July 2011
Incredible S NAM/Canada - s710a - Released April 2011
Desire Z NAM/Canada (QWERTY) - a7275 - Released November 2010
Desire NAM/Canada - a8182 - Released February 2010
Samsung
Galaxy Note I LTE Rogers Canada - i717R - Released February 2012 (unknown if still working)
Exhibit II 4G - T-Mobile - t679 - Released October 2011 (some reported it is working, others say flagged)
Galaxy S I Vibrant Canada - i9000m - Released November 2010
LG
Optimus 4G LTE - NAM/Canada - p935 - Released November 2011
Motorola
Photon 4G - US/Sprint - mb855 - Released June 2011 (requires this)
Milestone 3 GSM (QWERTY) - xt860 - Released September 2011
Milestone 2 GSM (QWERTY) - a953 - Released October 2010
Milestone 1 GSM (QWERTY) - a853 - Released November 2009
Other
Blu Studio 5.0 S - Dualcore 1.2GHz, 1GB RAM - Released May 2013
Oppo Find 5 - Quadcore 1.5GHz, 2GB RAM - Released December 2012
Xiaomi MI-2S - Quadcore 1.7GHz, 2GB RAM - Released April 2013
Xiaomi MI-2 - Quadcore 1.5GHz, 2GB RAM - Released November 2012
Xiaomi MI-1S - Dualcore 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM - Released August 2012
Xiaomi MI-1 - Dualcore 1.5GHz, 1GB RAM - Released ? 2011
Meizu MX 4-core - Quadcore 1.5GHz, 1GB RAM - Released August 2012
Meizu MX - Dualcore 1.4GHz, 1GB RAM - Released March 2012
Alcatel One Touch Idol - Dualcore 1.0GHz, 1GB RAM - Released May 2013
Alcatel One Touch Idol Ultra - Dualcore 1.2GHz, 1GB RAM - Released April 2013
Vertu Ti - Dualcore 1.7GHz, 1GB RAM - Released February 2013
Lenovo K900 - Dualcore 2.0GHz, 2GB RAM - Released April 2013
Xolo X1000 - Singlecore 2.0GHz, 1GB RAM - Released March 2013
Xolo X500 - Singlecore 1.2GHz, 512MB RAM - Released January 2013
UNKNOWN
TBD
What about the Galaxy Note? I know that some user's IMEI's got accidentally flagged as tablets, but that was supposedly fixed. I'm wanting to import either a Galaxy Nexus or a Galaxy Note and being able to use the MediaNet plan is a deciding factor.
GreenishApples said:
What about the Galaxy Note? I know that some user's IMEI's got accidentally flagged as tablets, but that was supposedly fixed. I'm wanting to import either a Galaxy Nexus or a Galaxy Note and being able to use the MediaNet plan is a deciding factor.
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See this thread over at the galaxy note section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325020
Apparently all you need is an existing medianet plan registered to an existing phone/plan, then swap the sim over to your galaxy note and it should work over medianet.
If you are not on AT&T then you'll have to activate with a "dumbphone" (Moto Razr, etc) and have them register that IMEI to the account, then drop the SIM in there.
It seems suggested to stick with an International edition of the Galaxy note with 3G on 850/1900 bands (Like Telus or Bell, Rogers if they have it) that way if AT&T ever decides to flag US Notes, you should be fine with an international one.
Very useful post for those trying to take advantage of the "dumbphone" MediaNet plan. I've been looking a while for a list like this and I'm glad I spotted the link in your sig while looking at the Incredible S ICS Rom thread lol Thumbs up and thank you for the list really appreciate it!
Oh btw you might want to add the HTC HD2 T9193 from Australia.
HTC HD2 - T9193
1GHz Snapdragon Processor
Note: Originally from Australia's Telstra network. The all famous HTC HD2 capable of running Windows Mobile 6.5, Windows Mobile 7, Android, Ubuntu, and MeeGo.
Thanks for the add! I'm unfamiliar with WP devices and I do plan on adding them in here, I've seen the HD7 and HD2 before and thought if it would ever work on AT&T medianet.
I looked up the Telstra network, it seems they carry the UMTS 850/2100 bands in Australia. Technically that should work in theory in the USA, but only in 850 regions. Very interesting. Also, do you know if the HD2 support the UMTS 1900mhz band?
This might be a little important since if I understand correctly, the 1900 band is the standard while the 850 is still trying to be rolled out in smaller areas of America.
That could be equivalent along the lines to someone in metro California can get 3G/H+, but the another person in Pennsylvania would only get EDGE on it, it could be totally dependent on where you live.
As far as my knowledge goes I'm on the same track as you, it seems it depends more upon your location even in my area(California) we don't get much of a 1900 band but more of a 850 band. Seems like the 1900 bands haven't caught up quite yet.
Oh and I know this from personal experience as well as pure knowledge. I've been playing with my HTC HD2 T9193 for a couple years now and it's purely the best phone I've ever had! <3 Until... the USB Socket popped off the board itself and I'm not longer able to charge it with the traditional USB port but rather have to go by charging with an external battery charger. lol FAIL
Added WP devices in second post.
Thanks for this list of phones Kaijura!
I've been looking for some replacement phones for my family. We currently have the Samsung Mythic with the MediaNet plan on all the phones. It has been a painful phone to use over the past 2 years and we're all looking to replace them.
Are there any particular Phones on the list that are recommended, such as the HTC Amaze 4G or Samsung Nexus?
If they work with the MediaNet plan, this would be the preferred method to avoid purchasing terribly locked down AT&T phones
Fuzzums said:
Thanks for this list of phones Kaijura!
I've been looking for some replacement phones for my family. We currently have the Samsung Mythic with the MediaNet plan on all the phones. It has been a painful phone to use over the past 2 years and we're all looking to replace them.
Are there any particular Phones on the list that are recommended, such as the HTC Amaze 4G or Samsung Nexus?
If they work with the MediaNet plan, this would be the preferred method to avoid purchasing terribly locked down AT&T phones
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The limits are going to be your budget.
Seems as of this posting time, the best your money can get you are the Canadian Amaze 4G (x715m), the Canadian GSM Galaxy Nexus, or a GSM Samsung Galaxy Note. The should all work fine.
I'm still not sure if the T-mobile Amaze 4G works with a dumbphone plan, the 3G frequencies are supported, but the device was made to support AT&T radios in mind. Does that mean AT&T will eventually add these to their database to catch the money loopholes? This is only an answer their marketing/economics division can answer.
AT&T had the IMEI's of GSM Nexus S and Nexus Ones when they were released for the Canadian carriers, so most of those users got bumped to a smartphone plan. Part of it was I think because it is google endorsed, those IMEI sequences were not exclusive to the respective carriers.
I suppose it mainly depends on which flavor of SoC you want to try. Samsung for the Exynos, or the same old Snapdragon line. Personally, I'd wait to see what MWC this month comes out with. Those phones won't be released till some months later down the line, but at least you'll know what's new in 2012 for now instead of paying premium for the current lineup.
kaijura said:
The limits are going to be your budget.
Seems as of this posting time, the best your money can get you are the Canadian Amaze 4G (x715m), the Canadian GSM Galaxy Nexus, or a GSM Samsung Galaxy Note. The should all work fine.
I'm still not sure if the T-mobile Amaze 4G works with a dumbphone plan, the 3G frequencies are supported, but the device was made to support AT&T radios in mind. Does that mean AT&T will eventually add these to their database to catch the money loopholes? This is only an answer their marketing/economics division can answer.
AT&T had the IMEI's of GSM Nexus S and Nexus Ones when they were released for the Canadian carriers, so most of those users got bumped to a smartphone plan. Part of it was I think because it is google endorsed, those IMEI sequences were not exclusive to the respective carriers.
I suppose it mainly depends on which flavor of SoC you want to try. Samsung for the Exynos, or the same old Snapdragon line. Personally, I'd wait to see what MWC this month comes out with. Those phones won't be released till some months later down the line, but at least you'll know what's new in 2012 for now instead of paying premium for the current lineup.
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The goal is to find a phone that isn't too costly (Max $600, preferably less than 500) that will work with AT&T 3G. None of us need 4G LTE as that just means we'll reach the bandwidth cap higher and tip off AT&T. A bonus would be if the phone worked with T-Mobile 3G as well since we might switch to them to get cheaper plans if this fails.
We've been dying to get smartphones, but none of us want to pay an additional $20 per line (4 lines total) which would equate to 480+tax per line (4 lines total $1920+Tax) over 2 years plus the cost of a new phone locked down with AT&T bloatware and features. We also want to avoid the possibility of data overages because $10 per gig overage is ridiculous. So using unlocked phones is our best way to avoid all the above.
However, I think I'll take your advice and try to wait a bit longer to see what comes out in the upcoming months. Once the new phones come pouring out, the current ones will get cheaper, or at least I hope
Thanks again for this thread, it's been very helpful and informative!
Something i think should be kept in mind is that i think getting the medianet plan on AT&T will limit you to at best "3g" speeds. What do I mean?? well, when i went from a Sony X10 to the LG thrill that I picked up cheap locally, the LG didn't work data wise, even though i had the $25 data plan already. When I called AT&T, the rep told me it did not work because they had to sign me to the "4G" plan, same price, $25, but he said that he just had to subscribe me to the "4G" plan, and viola!! it worked after a reboot. Now i know that the HSPA+ 4G is not all its cracked up to be, especially here where I live, New York City. And in actuality, i did not see any inprovement in speed compared to my Sony X10, which has the same HSPA spec as the Xperia Play, 7.2 mbps, but AT&T never adertized the Sony Xperia X10 as a "4G" phone, even though it can theoretically reach "4G" speeds. With the speedtest app from the market from Ookla, on my Xperia X10, i would on a good day get around 2-3Mbps. Doing the same test on a downtown heavily populated area where i know there are many thousands iphone loser users lurking around soaking up bandwidth on their crummy iOS's, i would get 1-1.5Mbps. I am seeing the exact same results on my "4G" capable LG Thrill.
Just though it would be interesting to bring this point out and invite other users to try out the same and see if they get actual different results upon changing their plan so we AT&T users can make a more informed decision
I also would like to ask where would be a good source where we can get these phones? Ebay isn't much of a great choice as they will not show you international auctions unless they say they ship worldwide, anybody know of any other sites we can check? (craigslist does not count oufcourse)
kaijura said:
The limits are going to be your budget.
Seems as of this posting time, the best your money can get you are the Canadian Amaze 4G (x715m), the Canadian GSM Galaxy Nexus, or a GSM Samsung Galaxy Note. The should all work fine.
I'm still not sure if the T-mobile Amaze 4G works with a dumbphone plan, the 3G frequencies are supported, but the device was made to support AT&T radios in mind. Does that mean AT&T will eventually add these to their database to catch the money loopholes? This is only an answer their marketing/economics division can answer.
AT&T had the IMEI's of GSM Nexus S and Nexus Ones when they were released for the Canadian carriers, so most of those users got bumped to a smartphone plan. Part of it was I think because it is google endorsed, those IMEI sequences were not exclusive to the respective carriers.
I suppose it mainly depends on which flavor of SoC you want to try. Samsung for the Exynos, or the same old Snapdragon line. Personally, I'd wait to see what MWC this month comes out with. Those phones won't be released till some months later down the line, but at least you'll know what's new in 2012 for now instead of paying premium for the current lineup.
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Hi all, I'm trying to install this ROM, vegacomb_hc3.2 build9n pov tegra 3g wifi internal gos I have a question, works internal 3g?
thanks.
kevace1 said:
Something i think should be kept in mind is that i think getting the medianet plan on AT&T will limit you to at best "3g" speeds. What do I mean?? well, when i went from a Sony X10 to the LG thrill that I picked up cheap locally, the LG didn't work data wise, even though i had the $25 data plan already. When I called AT&T, the rep told me it did not work because they had to sign me to the "4G" plan, same price, $25, but he said that he just had to subscribe me to the "4G" plan, and viola!! it worked after a reboot. Now i know that the HSPA+ 4G is not all its cracked up to be, especially here where I live, New York City. And in actuality, i did not see any inprovement in speed compared to my Sony X10, which has the same HSPA spec as the Xperia Play, 7.2 mbps, but AT&T never adertized the Sony Xperia X10 as a "4G" phone, even though it can theoretically reach "4G" speeds. With the speedtest app from the market from Ookla, on my Xperia X10, i would on a good day get around 2-3Mbps. Doing the same test on a downtown heavily populated area where i know there are many thousands iphone loser users lurking around soaking up bandwidth on their crummy iOS's, i would get 1-1.5Mbps. I am seeing the exact same results on my "4G" capable LG Thrill.
Just though it would be interesting to bring this point out and invite other users to try out the same and see if they get actual different results upon changing their plan so we AT&T users can make a more informed decision
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I think over the issue may have been a bad/old/inactivated SIM card, or you forgot to put APN settings, or it may have to do with the radio towers in your area. Some kind of temporary issue that shouldn't apply to most people. The main thing to keep in mind about all that is AT&T has literally no control over the 3G broadcast, whatever device puts in their 3G SIM, will pick up the signal if it can. They can't exclude devices from the broadcast unless the SIM is inactive.
I prefer to call UMTS 3G, HSPA+ 3.5G, and LTE 4G, but this is just a personal name preference.
In regards to HSPA+, yeah, it varies by your location and with the traffic it is currently handling with the people connected in your area. In a metro, diverse and compressed location like NYC, it's bound to have traffic. It can reach LTE-like speeds, but only if you have little traffic. I've found that I get the best speedtest results in the wee hours of the morning from where I am from, as far as 823kb/sec (6.43Mbps).
kevace1 said:
I also would like to ask where would be a good source where we can get these phones? Ebay isn't much of a great choice as they will not show you international auctions unless they say they ship worldwide, anybody know of any other sites we can check? (craigslist does not count oufcourse)
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Other than eBay, other options include negri electronics, expansys, and forums like here and Howardforums (be aware of trading scammers).
Togge850 said:
Hi all, I'm trying to install this ROM, vegacomb_hc3.2 build9n pov tegra 3g wifi internal gos I have a question, works internal 3g?
thanks.
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Is this a tablet? Advent Vega?
Looking it up, I think it doesn't have native 3G support, you may be installing a rom that adds support for 3G usb dongles. I don't know much about that and it's not related to this topic.
Anybody know if LG Optimus 3D works on media.net plan?
I am thinking about getting P920 or P925G. Probably P925G since it's from Canadian Rogers Wireless, and supports both 850mhz and 1900mhz.....and cheaper than P920, the international version.
Does anybody know LG Optimus 3D - P925G (Canadian version of LG Thrill) works on media.net data plan?
Thx in advance.
shsplaying said:
I am thinking about getting P920 or P925G. Probably P925G since it's from Canadian Rogers Wireless, and supports both 850mhz and 1900mhz.....and cheaper than P920, the international version.
Does anybody know LG Optimus 3D - P925G (Canadian version of LG Thrill) works on media.net data plan?
Thx in advance.
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I am 9/10 confident the Rogers Optimus 3D p925g will run on AT&T 3G, but I don't know for sure if it will get detected as a smartphone. I wish I had the answer but this is a less popular phone so it is hard to find the answer on the web.
There are a few on the NO list randomly do for no reason, like the white samsung galaxy note IMEI is detected as a Blackberry for AT&T.
According to this ebay auction for the 920: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mint-Conditi...Hz-4G-HSPA-Unlocked-World-Phone-/220875387241
the guy says he has been using the p920 with medianet:
Up for sale is a Mint Condition LG Optimus 3D P920. This phone supports the 850mHz band and is able to support 4G HSPA+ on AT&T's network! This phone is simply amazing. It was a gorgeous 4.3 inch screen, running Android 2.2.2 and also brings dual 5 MP camera's for 3D images! This is a 3D phone and in my opinion, this phone in 3D quality wise, is better than the EVO 3D. Phone comes built in 6GB of memory and can be further expanded with the SD card slot. Phone is in mint condition, with no scratches (except a light scratch on the screen but hardly noticable) on the body.
I am selling this phone because although it's very nice, it's too big for me. I bought this phone brand new unlocked for $589.00. Also, if you have AT&T, you can get this phone under the MediaNet plan which is unlimited data for $10 or $15 depending on your plan because the phone isn't registered on the network. This is a huge save, even when looking at the Thrill 4G on AT&T. Same phone except this one you pay less for unlimited data. This is a great save! There's nothing wrong with the phone, however, when I bought the phone, the phone came with a serial number and a "NOT FOR SALE" sign at the bottom.
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Droid 2 global & Droid Pro work on ATT's media net as well, with the TBH band Unlock.
I hear they are working on a similar band unlock so that the Photon and Electrify work in the same way.
I might get a Rogers Xperia Arc, so i'll come back and post results if I end up buying one.
What about the desire s? Has the correct bands
phonephoenix said:
Droid 2 global & Droid Pro work on ATT's media net as well, with the TBH band Unlock.
I hear they are working on a similar band unlock so that the Photon and Electrify work in the same way.
I might get a Rogers Xperia Arc, so i'll come back and post results if I end up buying one.
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Thanks, update me on the Rogers Xperia. I'll update the thread when I see it.
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What about the desire s? Has the correct bands
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It is missing one necessary band to be fully compatible, ATT uses the 850/1900mhz band.
The Desire S was released only for the euro market in mind. 900/1900/2100/AWS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire_S
So what this means is that you might get 3G/HSPA in some areas, but in other areas it'll be EDGE only, depending on what is the major broadcast signal in your area.
Sort of a reverse HTC HD2 situation here. That phone works with the 850 areas, but not the 1900's.
Can someone please give me help on making my mind up.
Right now I'm using Desire S.
I'm a fan of HTC and on the way for a change.
The One Series comes in 3 handsets
One X
One S
One V
If you have the choice I'd go for the One S, Its a better phone with better processing power than the One V - And in benchmarks the One S even defeats the One X !!
Thats not to say the One V is a bad phone, But obviously with choice, you choose the 'better' one
I wouldn't choose the v. It is a VERY small upgrade from your current phone
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Like Habarug said, the V is just not too much of an upgrade. If you dont want the S or X, then hang on to your Desire for a while.
Between the S and the X, one is not objectively better or worse than the other.
The X is bigger, has a 720HD lcd screen, has more storage.
The S is smaller (and fits better in your hand), has a qHD amoled screen, looks and feels more premium.
Go to a shop and hold them side by side.
Overall performance and feature wise you won't be disappointed with either one.
-Jobo
Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
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Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
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I don't know where you're from but in much of the world there are two versions of the One S, popularly referred to as the S3 (1.7GHz) and S4 (1.5GHz) versions based on the Snapdragon branding of the processor. The S4 is far more desirable in all ways if you can get it where you live.
Also the One X is available with different processors depending on where you live. The One S is my pick and a nice piece of kit, try to get the S4 version, there are threads here detailing the differences and which custom ROMs are available for each device.
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Yeah I agree the S is better to hold,
I've been reading few posts above n ppl talking abt batt issues. What's with that?
Is it cause the 1.7 GHz is draining more than One X ?
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Hi,
If I guess correctly, you are from India like me. In India, only the S3 1.7ghz version of one s is being sold, which definately have some battery issues due to older generation processor overclocked.
I'd recommend that if you can get someone to buy the handset from UK or other EU countries where primarily the S4 version is sold (be sure to check version no etc first) that would be better. I got mine from UK few days back and its an S4 version.I'd nt recommend the One S version available in Indian retail store because there is a vast difference between performance and battery life between S3 and S4 versions which cannot be overlooked.
Hope this helps !!!
Thanx dev. I should be in UK next week. So I'm looking for S4 then. I checked in HK and they have S3-1.7 GHz.
What's with One X ? Are there any variants to look for?
Htc one x international and Uk version although comes with a quad core tegra processor there are couple of issues like overheating and wifi which make it less user-friendly for common user, also consider the large size due to bigger screen.
If u use cdma then US sprint network's htc evo 4g lte is the best smartphone in the world right now (yes better than galaxy s3). however for gsm i guess One S would be the better bet considering its premium design and comfortable size.
PS: try to get the black coloured one s. Its the only one which is made using famous micro-arc oxidation method making it super strong.
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agree with azzledazzle ... htc one S is better than one V as the stats differ a lot ...and if ur indian ..if my guess is ryt then better dont go for either HTC one S or X coz they get the obsolete S3 processors which are overclocked and given..my friend has a htc one X he got Overheating probs and the back cover is slightly bulged ... even m using one S but got the T-Mobile one with S4..its way better and no overheating too !!
I'd get the One X if I was you, its really not to hard to hold in one hand, its perfectly fluid and smooth... The screen looks amazing and running CM10 my phone has hardly got warm (Except intensive games such as Asphalt 7) which is to be expected. I've had no build defects or issues. The best reason for me though is how much nicer it looks over the One S (This of course is my subjective opinion) Oh and the ROM development is great!
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Are there processor and performance difference on One X n XL ? I like the One X too, just taking a week more to finalize between S n X
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Are there processor and performance difference on One X n XL ? I like the One X too, just taking a week more to finalize between S n X
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XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
Thanx ppl finally bought a One X. It's big but its nice, after a week or so will go to cfw
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XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
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Errrr. No
One XL is the lte capable version of the One X. The main difference is the processor, it has the dual core S4. The North American carriers (At&t, Rogers, and Telus) market it as the One X to confuse things. All of these carriers have 16gb of storage, like the One S. The Aussie and German versions have 32 gb like the tegra 3 powered version. ALL are gsm/hspa/lte carriers. The only cdma carrier (Sprint) has a new evo, based loosely on the One X but with an S4 processor, and removable battery and expandable sd storage.
Once again, the XL IS NOT a cdma variant, that is the evo series for Sprint only.
Basically:
One X, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
One XL, dual core snapdragon S4, with lte, marketed in the U.S. and Canada as the One X!!!!!! 16 or 32gb storage depending on where you live
To confuse things more, Verizon is rumered to release a "One X+" gsm/hspa+ (no lte) quad core tegra 3 clocked at 1.7ghz.
Cheers everyone,
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Paqu1 said:
XL is the US version for CDMA and X is the GSM version. XL has the dual core S4 processor which is the same what is on the One S as well. X has quad core Tegra 3 processor. What comes to performance, they are pretty equal so doesn't really matter that much which one you take.
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Err, no
One XL is the lte capable version, with the dual core S4 as you said. It is marketed as the One X in the U.S. and Canada by at&t, Rogers, and Telus. These carriers only offer a 16gb version. They are all gsm/hspa/lte carriers. Telstra (Australia) and Germany (can't remember the carrier) have a One XL (S4 processor, gsm/hspa/lte) but with 32gb like the One X. Other regions with lte offer the One XL also, but with only 16gb storage like the NAM version.
The One X, is as you said, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
The cdma version is offered by Sprint as the Evo series. The latest has the S3 processor, shares the image sense camera, but offers a removable battery and sd card storge.
Cheers,
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Errrr. No
One XL is the lte capable version of the One X. The main difference is the processor, it has the dual core S4. The North American carriers (At&t, Rogers, and Telus) market it as the One X to confuse things. All of these carriers have 16gb of storage, like the One S. The Aussie and German versions have 32 gb like the tegra 3 powered version. ALL are gsm/hspa/lte carriers. The only cdma carrier (Sprint) has a new evo, based loosely on the One X but with an S4 processor, and removable battery and expandable sd storage.
Once again, the XL IS NOT a cdma variant, that is the evo series for Sprint only.
Basically:
One X, quad core tegra 3, 32gb storage
One XL, dual core snapdragon S4, with lte, marketed in the U.S. and Canada as the One X!!!!!! 16 or 32gb storage depending on where you live
To confuse things more, Verizon is rumered to release a "One X+" gsm/hspa+ (no lte) quad core tegra 3 clocked at 1.7ghz.
Cheers everyone,
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Roger that, damn. I thought I had it all figured out how the models were. That sure is confusing.
one s dude
A global launch of a smartphone is no easy task – there are long lists of which country gets what and when. The latest list (courtesy of SamMobile) about the Samsung Galaxy S4 is about the Eastern European launch of the flagship droid (including Russia and the Ukraine).
The Galaxy S4 is split into two versions – 3G and LTE. Unfortunately, it’s not entirely clear if those are the Exynos 5 Octa and Snapdragon 600 or some mix of the two. Both chipsets support LTE. The earlier rumors suggested the Exynos version will be the one sold in both Russia and the Ukraine, you can consult the list for the rest of the countries.
Both color versions – Black Mist and White Frost – will arrive at the same time. Also, the 32GB version seems to have been dropped – you get either the 16GB version or go for broke with the 64GB. The microSD card slot means storage is easy to expand, so you must really need huge amounts of storage to go for the 64GB units.
Anyway, here’s the list:
Galaxy S4 3G 16 GB – Week 16
Galaxy S4 3G 32 GB – DROPPED
Galaxy S4 3G 64 GB – Week 24
Galaxy S4 LTE 16 GB – Week 21
Galaxy S4 LTE 32 GB – DROPPED
Galaxy S4 LTE 64 GB – Week 24
Week 16 is April 15-21, Week 21 is May 20-26 and Week 24 is June 10-16.
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A global launch of a smartphone is no easy task – there are long lists of which country gets what and when. The latest list (courtesy of SamMobile) about the Samsung Galaxy S4 is about the Eastern European launch of the flagship droid (including Russia and the Ukraine).
The Galaxy S4 is split into two versions – 3G and LTE. Unfortunately, it’s not entirely clear if those are the Exynos 5 Octa and Snapdragon 600 or some mix of the two. Both chipsets support LTE. The earlier rumors suggested the Exynos version will be the one sold in both Russia and the Ukraine, you can consult the list for the rest of the countries.
Both color versions – Black Mist and White Frost – will arrive at the same time. Also, the 32GB version seems to have been dropped – you get either the 16GB version or go for broke with the 64GB. The microSD card slot means storage is easy to expand, so you must really need huge amounts of storage to go for the 64GB units.
Anyway, here’s the list:
Galaxy S4 3G 16 GB – Week 16
Galaxy S4 3G 32 GB – DROPPED
Galaxy S4 3G 64 GB – Week 24
Galaxy S4 LTE 16 GB – Week 21
Galaxy S4 LTE 32 GB – DROPPED
Galaxy S4 LTE 64 GB – Week 24
Week 16 is April 15-21, Week 21 is May 20-26 and Week 24 is June 10-16.
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Welcome to the forum and great post.
Thank the man!
This is driving me crazy. Why the long delay before 4G version?
Will 3G version also support 4G in the future as it has the capability?
So hang on 3G is the octa version and 4g is the snapdragon CPU? I ordered with phones4u and it states its snapdragon 1.9ghz and 4g?
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So hang on 3G is the octa version and 4g is the snapdragon CPU? I ordered with phones4u and it states its snapdragon 1.9ghz and 4g?
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yes you will get the 4G LTE version
I'm willing to make a bet : The S4 won't be available anywhere in this world prior to 26 april ! - the date of it's official launch.
Who's in?
// And regarding that 3g part ... hahahaha
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I'm willing to make a bet : The S4 won't be available anywhere in this world prior to 26 april ! - the date of it's official launch.
Who's in?
// And regarding that 3g part ... hahahaha
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April 15-21 for Exynos 5 Octa 3G version 16GB version! This info has been confirmed by SamMobile
You kind of have to take specific regional dates with a grain of salt. Samsung can only produce "X" a month so it's a matter of priorities as to which markets get which versions, in which order, and in which quantities. So what's announced for Eastern Europe may have no bearing on other regions. T-Mobile in the U.S. has said May 1 for the S-600/LTE version so you can assume, while not announced, the other U.S. carriers will be around that timeframe. So with "X" S-600/LTE SGS4’s available and a big portion of that "X" committed to the U.S. it could affect when other regions get theirs. From Samsung's perspective if they know they'll have "X" to sell in the first 90 days and that all of "X" is going to sell their biggest concern isn't sales; it's who do they want to please (country wise) and who do they want to piss off by how they choose to allocate inventory. And the missing 32GB for Eastern Europe could be because of re-allocating 32GB's to other regions; not that it’s dead. It's certainly going to look like a cluster-f outwardly as Samsung figures out who gets what and when.
So hang on what have we all preordered for stating delivery on 26 April from phones4u? For the quadcorere version when it's showing a may release date? Getting worse this is.