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Ok I signed up for this forum a little while ago but just started posting since i never had anything to say before but I feel that enough time has passed and I have done some reading where I might be able to say something that makes some sense.
Here is the problem, I have a ATT 8125 and I wanted to throw it away when the ATT 8525 came out but I did not falter then when the ATT 8925/Tilt came out I still didn't falter and I was so close with the announcement of the HTC Diamond and Touch Pro.
I decided to do some research about upgrades and here I am. I used to be a motorola fanatic back in the day but now HTC is my new home.
I did 2 days of reading with very little sleep before I attempted to upgrade my phone. The first flash went well and i had new features. Then I saw that there was another more recent flash with other features so I carefully re-flashed. One week later I have re-flashed 5 times with 5 different roms. I have a feeling that this isn't the end of this.
The only thing that is a problem is that my battery doesn't last anywhere nearly as long as it used to but my research shows that the reason is because now I have trouble putting the phone down.
So as it stands I could care less about getting the new HTC Diamond until the price drops significantly or they are giving them away with a plan upgrade but by then i'm sure HTC will have some new ground breaking technology.
So at the end of my rant and rave I find myself constantly checking the Wizard rom section to see if anything new has been cooked up by these awesome chefs. I hope the XDA forum doesn't burn into my lcd monitor.
Aah! Another flash-o-holic...
Welcome to the club!
This should however probably be in off topic
My mistake
I was contemplating posting in off-topic but it is technically phone related so I was torn as to where to post so i just decided to put it here. If its in the wrong section a mod could kindly move it to where it belongs.
I just wanted to share how much happiness this forum has brought to me and a couple friends that I have helped see that they are in the matrix.
It's a mods call on that...
For me, the flashing and the fun is one of the main things about WM for me... That's why I could never go for just an iPhone!
Go to facebook.com, search verizon wireless and like
Then go look at all the people posting on their page who want the thunderbolt.
A large amount of comments are contained in the Xoom post.
They were deleting comments for awhile, but it seems that the person who moderates that page would be working all day to delete the comments.
Post your comments negative or positive. Maybe if we bother them enough they will break and tell us its all Steve Jobs fault!
yup. i have posted twice on there today. once this morning and at lunch. they deleted my first one. i saw one thunderbolt comment after another at lunch. if they are going to not say a release date, they should least say they arent sure yet and say why. so yeah, everybody should go there and slam them.
Looks like the Thunderbolt Fever is spreading into all their older facebook posts. The newest one about Church Quire is getting lit up too. I never really followed a phone launch untill now but if they are all like this I am going to make it a hobby. This has been an entertaining couple of weeks.
So... I'm winding down from my day, drinking a couple beers and checking XDA for anything I've missed throughout the day. Keep in mind this is my first Android, coming from crapberry... I know it hasn't been out long and there are issues with ril(which I don't know anything about)... I feel like some of the things I have found here I really like have slowed down, if not stopped. Before I get flamed, I understand there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into every Rom and theme we see. I just hope to see that at some point, this phone gets to the point we all hope it will. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and help anyone with questions my limited Android knowledge can accomplish. Feel free to use this thread to vent and rant... Let's get it all out here. Many thanks to the devs still holding strong... I'm just looking for thoughts on how far the development will go with this phoned compared to the EVO's I'm compared to everyday at work.
3 things to keep in mind:
1) CM7 is damn near stable and they're working hard on it. That said, [nearly] everybody who isn't working on CM7 is essentially waiting on the CM7 team to finish since [nearly] everybody wants an AOSP-based ROM. So why would they keep pouring tons of time into their current ROMs since they'll very soon be thrown away?
2) Google I/O. Quite a few of our favorite devs are being distracted by either attending or closely following this event.
3) End of the school year. A lot of our favorite devs are either high school or college students. And many of those who aren't have children. As such, this is a rough time of year for them.
Look at all of this and you shouldn't be all that surprised that things have slowed down for a bit. But I promise you, the TBolt will be one of the main platforms that people will be hacking for a while. We'll have CM7, we'll have MIUI, and we'll have many other custom ROMs and kernels. Just be patient while they get the RIL stable. This is the FIRST phone that has supported LTE and this is also the first phone (that I'm aware of) that has supported eHRPD - there are definitely some lessons that need to be learned, and that takes time.
bking_soda said:
So... I'm winding down from my day, drinking a couple beers and checking XDA for anything I've missed throughout the day. Keep in mind this is my first Android, coming from crapberry... I know it hasn't been out long and there are issues with ril(which I don't know anything about)... I feel like some of the things I have found here I really like have slowed down, if not stopped. Before I get flamed, I understand there is a tremendous amount of work that goes into every Rom and theme we see. I just hope to see that at some point, this phone gets to the point we all hope it will. I'm trying to learn as much as I can and help anyone with questions my limited Android knowledge can accomplish. Feel free to use this thread to vent and rant... Let's get it all out here. Many thanks to the devs still holding strong... I'm just looking for thoughts on how far the development will go with this phoned compared to the EVO's I'm compared to everyday at work.
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A good amount of stuff has came out with the RIL still not completed, once the RIL is completed, the flood gates will open and you will see a large amount of ROMs made.
bking_soda said:
I'm just looking for thoughts on how far the development will go with this phoned compared to the EVO's I'm compared to everyday at work.
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... so this is about getting compared to the EVO? You guys have pork sword fights at work too?
Hey now... Pork sword fights are saved for after work. Haha. Not comparing to the EVO, just stating that its been out much longer and had more dev time.
In addition, once 2.3 leaks, the floodgates will open again.
Hey B Soda,
I'm in the same boat as you. I loved my BB Bold dearly. So easy to pimp them girls on it. Just the simplicity of the keyboard, being able to connect with other people.
However now being on my first android, i felt that I made the switch at the right time.
With BlackBerry I felt i could write a good email and msg friends all day, but I could never ever use the browser or attempt to download anything because it really was useless.
Tbolt on the other hand, I was able to do everything that i couldn't do on my blackberry, Msging still sucks on the Tbolt, But it is way way better then trying to browse on a blackberry.
With that said, there is still something i miss about the blackberry, but honestly i couldn't be happier.
One more thing, When i first got into android i was completely loss. I have no idea what to do. It was hours and hours of mindless surfing on many different android websites. Hours of reading on root and roms.
Anyhow Android is the future. Long live Google!!!
I see it like this: the Thunderbolt is still an infant--it eats, sleeps, cries, pukes, and poops. When it gets more mature, it can crawl, walk, talk, and more! It just needs some TLC and patience!
It hasn't even been 2 months. It took a whole month if not more I believe to root the Incredible if I remember correctly. Learn some patience people.
You can't compare this phone to the EVO, the EVO has been out for almost a year now.
I gotta agree with the OP.
Development seems to be at a stand still. I understand most developers are waiting for the ril to be completed. But, while we're waiting other phones will be released and developers will start to look towards that phone for development support. I think we'll be left behind. And it really does seem like only 2 developers are working on getting the ril, but when the G2 was rooted it seemed like all of team douche was working to get the ASOP ROM up and running. With the Thunderbolt it's more like team Slayer. Progress was made quickly with the G2 and other devices. Quickly even with team douche building for all devices at once.
I'm not slapping other developers in the face. I'm currently running adrynalyne build, and I like. Great battery life. But I want the speed and stability other devices have with CM7. I really do appreciate the having the support we currently have. And I've donated to the developers of my choice in support of their work.
Coming from the OG Droid, I noticed that many ROMs are based on CM. So we WILL see many more roms.
I can assure you we will get 2.3.4 sometime in the future especially since HTC "promised" that we'll get some kind of 2.3 version. 3.1 was announced at Google I/O, but that probably won't happen until mid next year for us (if we are lucky).
This is the first Verizon 4g phone. The ril is brand new to all. The phone will take off when the ril is polished and released.
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I would pay money just to get a virus rom update
i can't wait til they send me my sim card for the tbolt
While I don't have a Thunderbolt and I'm still rocking an OG Droid, I do believe I can say something about this.
I suspect that a lot of people share in these sentiments, myself included. But I believe the reason why is because so many people were amazed at the community that developed after the Droid 1 was released. The Motorola Droid really revolutionized the Android ecosystem. With Android 2.0, Android changed big-time. The Droid (and Android 2.0) was leaps and bounds over anything that had predated it in the Android world, and there was all sorts of development options that opened up with the creation of that new phone.
Unfortunately, I believe that the days of new findings and developments like in the days and weeks in November and December '09 are gone for good, and won't be matched by anything in the near future in the Android world. New phones will come and go, the Thunderbolt included. There will be big-time phones (again, like the Thunderbolt) that people will naturally be attracted to, and those will be the centers of development for the community for a good period of time. But I don't believe you will ever again see a surge in development like you saw for the Motorola Droid.
There is definitely still plenty of development going on in a community like this. It just doesn't seem like as much as there was in the Android community in the past, and it definitely wasn't as much. But I don't think we can ever match those numbers again, so don't let that comparison get you down.
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A good amount of stuff has came out with the RIL still not completed, once the RIL is completed, the flood gates will open and you will see a large amount of ROMs made.
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I fully agree with what you said. So far there has been some really good to great stuff but I feel personally this is only the beginning of what potential lies within what could be done with ROMs on the Thunderbolt. I can't wait for the RIL to be finished.
I got my OG Droid in Nov. 09 and I personally do not think ROM development was the golden age like you are so fondly remembering. Verizon's first android phone brought a lot of new people to android. It still took quite awhile for community to evolve.
People seem spoiled now ... TB is new tech, we need to give it time. The Devs are bringing out some very Nice sense based ROMs and AOSP will follow... give it time.
"Is dinner ready yet?!" No. "Is it ready yet?!" No. "How about now?!" No. *shoe to the head* "Ow! What the hell was that for?!"
You get the picture. This is exactly what you guys are doing here but it won't be a shoe that you'll get to the side of your head, you'll have pushed a good developer or two away and then you'll really be crying.
Btw, first paragraph is a true story. Actually happened to me a few times.
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jab476 said:
I would pay money just to get a virus rom update
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Cheers, I'm thinking the same thing...
ddgarcia05 said:
I gotta agree with the OP.
Development seems to be at a stand still. I understand most developers are waiting for the ril to be completed. But, while we're waiting other phones will be released and developers will start to look towards that phone for development support. I think we'll be left behind.
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So how, exactly, do you expect other LTE devices to leave us left behind? EVERY SINGLE Verizon LTE device will build upon what is done for the RIL with the Thunderbolt. If anything, add'l LTE devices coming will actually HELP the Thunderbolt community! At some point, yeah, we'll move past the Thunderbolt. But that won't be until multi-core phones blow single-core phones away. And we're not close to there yet. Perhaps Ice Cream Sandwich will make that a reality (we hope) and that's still 7(?) months away!
for the past few months , this section is not so active anymore..
Well, no.
There are still plenty of gtab users out there. Trust me. The traffic to my website is still quite high.
In fact, my website is what contributed to the lower number of new posts in xda. Also, everything that can be said pretty much have been said. All people have to do now is do a search. Quite simple really.
All kinds of Gtab activity going on. Some on other places, but like GI said, you can only ask the same questions so many times.
to give you an idea of the traffic volume to my website, the bandwidth limit for the month was passed in the first week. that was back before my site showed up on google search. The number increased once google started showing it. Then a woot sale spiked up traffic. I had to buy more bandwidth 3 times to keep the site from shutting down.
No, I'm not boasting about popularity. Just giving you an idea how many people use the gtab.
I agree. I think it was me. First time I posted a problem, everybody ran away, and they don't come back.
cotangent05 said:
for the past few months , this section is not so active anymore..
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My obsolete gTab just switched to Honeycomb this week. Nice!
HC Illuminate rocks!
schettj said:
My obsolete gTab just switched to Honeycomb this week. Nice!
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Another HC upgrade/user the past 2 days and loving it! I am waiting for camera to work and for flash..other than that the UI and speed are AWESOME!
Whenever there is significant news that I put in the OP of one of my threads such as new firmware update or Platform Tools, when there is new, overriding information, I move the outdated news to another reserved post, such as Old news from the OP.
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Which has caused me to sometimes create a second "Very old news from the OP" reserved post, but it's already a pain moving the chunks of news as it is, and I'm not sure if it's really worth the trouble.
I have probably only referenced the old news a couple of times, and a rolling solution such as purging the oldest news and keeping the newest would be a further pain.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Whenever there is significant news that I put in the OP of one of my threads such as new firmware update or Platform Tools, when there is new, overriding information, I move the outdated news to another reserved post, such as Old news from the OP.
There is a character limit for each post:
Which has caused me to sometimes create a second "Very old news from the OP" reserved post, but it's already a pain moving the chunks of news as it is, and I'm not sure if it's really worth the trouble.
I have probably only referenced the old news a couple of times, and a rolling solution such as purging the oldest news and keeping the newest would be a further pain.
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I voted "It could be useful but never used it". If it's a pain I would just forget about doing it. If some old news subject comes up I'm sure we all can answer questions instead.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Whenever there is significant news that I put in the OP of one of my threads such as new firmware update or Platform Tools, when there is new, overriding information, I move the outdated news to another reserved post, such as Old news from the OP.
There is a character limit for each post:
Which has caused me to sometimes create a second "Very old news from the OP" reserved post, but it's already a pain moving the chunks of news as it is, and I'm not sure if it's really worth the trouble.
I have probably only referenced the old news a couple of times, and a rolling solution such as purging the oldest news and keeping the newest would be a further pain.
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I usually go to your threads from a notification and read the newest posts from there. I seldom go back to the OP. I never even knew you updated them until now.
In the past, I'd go back to the OP in custom ROM threads when there was an update, but I haven't used custom ROMs since I got the Pixel 2XL. I don't find them necessary anymore. I am planning on keeping my Pixel 5 for a while though, so when updates for that are over I'll probably go back to trying them. I meant to with my 2XL as well, but I never got around to it before I didn't own it anymore.
Lughnasadh said:
I voted "It could be useful but never used it". If it's a pain I would just forget about doing it. If some old news subject comes up I'm sure we all can answer questions instead.
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Thanks for voting! I felt guilty when I wiped out my "Old News" post, I believe it was in my main Pixel 6 Pro thread. It's funny that old news for the Pixel 7 Pro just ran over the character limit today, but for the Pixel 6 Pro, it was only 2-3 or so months ago that it ran over.
xunholyx said:
I never even knew you updated them until now.
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LOL!
xunholyx said:
In the past, I'd go back to the OP in custom ROM threads when there was an update, but I haven't used custom ROMs since I got the Pixel 2XL. I don't find them necessary anymore. I am planning on keeping my Pixel 5 for a while though, so when updates for that are over I'll probably go back to trying them. I meant to with my 2XL as well, but I never got around to it before I didn't own it anymore.
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Thanks for voting, too!
I hear you. Even by 2015 I usually regretted trying custom ROMs. And no disrespect intended towards developers. I think you're all awesome. I installed Lineage on my HTC 10 in the last year and that phone would run so hot, plus the battery was definitely lasting significantly less time than on stock, even for an old Android version on an old phone.
Admittedly, I haven't played around with others like Graphene, et cetera, but I'm not about to, either.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Thanks for voting! I felt guilty when I wiped out my "Old News" post, I believe it was in my main Pixel 6 Pro thread. It's funny that old news for the Pixel 7 Pro just ran over the character limit today, but for the Pixel 6 Pro, it was only 2-3 or so months ago that it ran over.
LOL!
Thanks for voting, too!
I hear you. Even by 2015 I usually regretted trying custom ROMs. And no disrespect intended towards developers. I think you're all awesome. I installed Lineage on my HTC 10 in the last year and that phone would run so hot, plus the battery was definitely lasting significantly less time than on stock, even for an old Android version on an old phone.
Admittedly, I haven't played around with others like Graphene, et cetera, but I'm not about to, either.
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LOL! The HTC 10 was what I had before the 2XL. I ran Viper10 on it since the day I got it. But I was a member of Team Venom so....
Good thing about being a team member was getting Sunshine at a good discount before I even had the phone
Hi @roirraW "edor" ehT
What I used to do in my former OPs.
Except for the update versions (which may still be useful for those interested in getting a Pixel 7 in 2/3 years, everything else was deleted after 6 months to 1 year because you could find the information on the internet and a former member can always answer it.
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I voted "It could be useful but never used it". If it's a pain I would just forget about doing it. If some old news subject comes up I'm sure we all can answer questions instead.
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Same here!