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my question is, has the samsung omnia i900 hardware accelerated graphics? i didn't thought so, but i came across some statements that it has acceleration...
or does it have a hardware graphics chip..but i.e. no opengl drivers?
someone really knows?
we don't deal with non-htc devices over here.. if you can find anything using "search"... you're welcome.
I am posting here as I am not allowed to do so in development subforum.
Anyway, I am the developer of the OpenFIMG project (formerly GLES6410), which is aiming to provide proper OpenGL support on devices with FIMG 3DSE 3D engine, found in S3C6410, S5PC100 and probably also in S5P6442. The project is in a pretty advanced state as it is already capable of running Android 2.3 with hardware acceleration. Still many OpenGL extensions and some core features (like lighting) are still missing. More info can be found here: https://github.com/tom3q/openfimg/wiki.
It is very likely (and almost confirmed) that the SoC used in Galaxy 3 (S5P6442) contains the same GPU as the one in S3C6410, which is the chip inside Galaxy Spica and similar phones, at least basing on what Quadrant and GLbenchmark show and on GL libraries supposed to be dumped from Galaxy 3.
What I am trying to say is that my project may also be useful on Galaxy 3, but I am the only developer working on it and I am doing it in my free time, so it does not progress as fast as one may expect. In other words, I am looking for some other developers interested in this project.
If you are interested, then do not hesitate to drop me a PM.
Mod EDIT : moving this to development
EDIT: Attached some documents about FIMG 3DSE (based on S3C6410 documentation and my reverse engineering)
EDIT: The project has been successfully used on G3. Builds of ICS for G3 use OpenFIMG as primary graphics driver currently and there are update packages for CM7.
Very interesting .. I send you PM.
Galaxy 3 has no GPU.
mpbm23 said:
Galaxy 3 has no GPU.
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Based on what?
All my sources state that it has exactly the same FIMG 3DSE rev. 1.5 as in S3C6410.
Based on the fact that no site says that the I5800 has a GPU and that graphics on games are really laggy.
Unless you are not talking about a discrete GPU.
No mobile phone contains a discrete GPU. All of them are embedded inside some SoC chip, some are better (SGX, Adreno), some are worse (FIMG 3DSE).
It is exactly the same as with Spica and similar phones. Games are laggy because the hardware is not a speed daemon and the performance is even more impacted by really _broken_ drivers.
Then why nobody write that it has GPU like all the other phones like Galaxy S ,Nexus S etc?
mpbm23 said:
Then why nobody write that it has GPU like all the other phones like Galaxy S ,Nexus S etc?
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Because it is a low end phone, software support for this GPU is very bad and the GPU itself is not a speed daemon.
tom3q said:
Because it is a low end phone, software support for this GPU is very bad and the GPU itself is not a speed daemon.
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Okay..so your project involves developing real good drivers so that even the g3 low end gpu can perform better, right?
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !
Yes. Of course, it will not work on par with Adreno 200 or similar GPUs, but should at least work a bit better. The main target is to run Android 2.3 (and future versions, which will not work will original drivers, because of missing extensions) with full hardware acceleration and without bugs found in Samsung drivers.
Hmmm.. Nice .. Good luck with your project.. One of our devs marcellusbe is working on porting CM7 to G3.. This would surely help him ..
Sent from the 3rd Galaxy !
cool... if so this is gonna make new benchmark .. pun intended ... best of luck man.... I had thought of throwing this phone a long time back but you guys always give hopes... and ofcourse result..
Wow interesting!
This should be moved to dev section I have sent a PM to haree
Cool. So what can others help with?
Too interesting
I'ld like to help with whatever i can
I'll back you up in spirit, sorry,i know nothing about programming
VERY intresting!
and yes the galaxy 3 does have a gpu and yes it has been confirmed (or atleast i heard) that it has this gpu..cant wait to see the outcome!
Actually, I will need some people who would compile, test and eventually fix the code for Galaxy 3, because the only phone with this GPU I have is a Galaxy Spica (i5700) and there may be some subtle differences between them. (Especially in the kernel part, where kernel modules may require changing of some addresses or some other fragments of code.)
Preferably, I would like someone to help me with the project, but I understand this is not an easy task, so not everyone can apply.
I don't mind being a tester
Edit: also will we be able to play gameloft games and nfs shift?
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dilzo said:
I don't mind being a tester
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Nice, thanks.
However, you have to understand that it is not a simple drop-in replacement of standard GL libs. This project replaces the whole graphics subsystem of the phone, including some kernel modules and this makes testing a bit more complicated as it needs pretty big modification of the phone software.
If it is not a problem for you then ok.
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Edit: also will we be able to play gameloft games and nfs shift?
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It all depends if all the extensions required by these games will get implemented. Also, there may be some problems with screen resolution of Galaxy 3, which is a not standard one. I cannot give any claims regarding the performance as the real performance of this hardware is unknown.
Hello I want to know if its possible someday a port from Note 2014 to our Note 2012, this is gonna be obsolete?
I 2nd that! Seeing as it has been done on the Note 3 to Note 2. Should be possible?
This won't be possible. The Note 10.1 2014, uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 CPU and a Qualcomm Adreno GPU. The 'normal' 10.1 uses a Samsung Exynos 4410 CPU and a Mali-400 MP4 GPU.
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This won't be possible. The Note 10.1 2014, uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 CPU and a Qualcomm Adreno GPU. The 'normal' 10.1 uses a Samsung Exynos 4410 CPU and a Mali-400 MP4 GPU.
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This is what port means mastermind
To chnage what is needed to make a rom work on other device rather than its own.
Yes, you're right but the Hardware differences are big! If you think so, go ahead and try it. Good luck
I know the hardware is a big difference between the two but theres got to be some approximation that would work on our systems...I know that for the most part I would be looking for the revamped s-pen input, especially the menu that pops up when you hold down the pen button (air command? Quick command? Something like that?)
The stuff that I would really want would be the stuff from a Note 3...which as I understand is closer to my n8013 than the new Note 2014. Maybe a hybrid with the backbone of the old system, tweaked and updated to the latest Android, with all the S-goodies from this year's phone and tablet. If it can work on the Note 3 it cant be too far off from the original 10.1 right? *crosses fingers* im dying for a reason to talk my wife into surrendering my note 10.1 so I can get out of this God awful ipad mini.
Dear Santa...blah blah blah 2014 ROM blah blah blah.
I have spoken to devs that have ported note 3 to note 2 and they think that it would be quite easy. The hardware between the note 3 and the note 2 is quite a leap and yet the note 3 works brilliant on my note 2, in fact I prefer my note 2 over my new note 3.
It won't be able to be ported until we get the 4.3 official rom.
port note 10.1 2014 or note 3 UI to galaxy note 10.1 2012
Has anyone done this yet, are they still waiting on a 4.3 update for this device. Would love to use my n8013 with the new s-pen features or the 8.0 as well.
Hello comunity ! I recently bought acp for my galaxy s3 i9300 and i see that the gfx are way better then on my galaxy note 10.1 even thow the hardware is identical in both tablet and smartphone (exynos quad 1.4ghz , gpu mali 400mp, 2gb ram in the note 1 gb ram in s3) and i would like to see it in full glory like on my s3 (god rays, water reflexion, higher resolution etc) i have searched with root in the acp folder for settings or presets but i havent found anything usefull. Any help would be apreciated (oh and yeah the game dose not featura a gfx menu for high or low or anything) please if someone knows how to set it to full gfx respond ! I have android 4.1.2 on both s3 and note 10.1 n8010
I just got my nieces Samsung Galaxy Trend (S7560) after repairing her iPhone4 which is apparently the exact same phone as the Ace 2 + (S7560M). It is however very different from the Ace 2, Ace + and Ace. The Roms etc. are incompatible (obviously since the hardware is different). It's a mess trying to find the stuff for the Trend/Ace2+ since I have to enter the Ace/Ace2 thread which is completely useless.
Galaxy Ace SoC: S5830 - 800 MHz ARM 11 - MSM7227 chipset
Galaxy Ace Duos SoC: 832 MHz (no more info on GSM-arena)
Galaxy Ace Plus SoC: S7500 - 1 GHz Cortex-A5 - MSM7227A chipset (extra stuff)
Galaxy Ace 2 SoC: i8160 - Dual Core, NovaThor U8500, Mali-400 GPU
Galaxy Ace 2+ and Trend SoC: S7560/S7560M - 1GHz - MSM7227A, Adreno 200 (Enhanced)
Galaxy Ace 3 SoC (comes in two versions, 3G and LTE): Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9 (3G) / Dual-core 1.2 GHz Krait (LTE). Broadcom BCM21664 (3G) / Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 (LTE) (ie. 3G-version and 4G-version(LTE)), Broadcom VideoCore IV (3G) / Adreno 305 (LTE)
There are more such as Ace II Duo.
They are not compatible with each other (firmwares, recoveries, kernels etc.) and my suggestion is to simply make threads like:
Ace S5830
Ace Plus S7500
Ace Duos S6802
Ace 2 I8160
Ace 2x S7560/7560M
Ace 3
..just like the difference between the high-end Samsungs like Galaxy S, S+, S2, S3, S4 etc. to make it easier. Could make a master thread simply called Samsung Galaxy Ace (all models) and under that a sub forum for each model.
Just my 5 cents for all of us that own Galaxy Aces that aren't Ace 1.
Thanks,
Scyphe
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I just got my nieces Samsung Galaxy Trend (S7560) after repairing her iPhone4 which is apparently the exact same phone as the Ace 2 + (S7560M). It is however very different from the Ace 2, Ace + and Ace. The Roms etc. are incompatible (obviously since the hardware is different). It's a mess trying to find the stuff for the Trend/Ace2+ since I have to enter the Ace/Ace2 thread which is completely useless.
Galaxy Ace SoC: S5830 - 800 MHz ARM 11 - MSM7227 chipset
Galaxy Ace Duos SoC: 832 MHz (no more info on GSM-arena)
Galaxy Ace Plus SoC: S7500 - 1 GHz Cortex-A5 - MSM7227A chipset (extra stuff)
Galaxy Ace 2 SoC: i8160 - Dual Core, NovaThor U8500, Mali-400 GPU
Galaxy Ace 2+ and Trend SoC: S7560/S7560M - 1GHz - MSM7227A, Adreno 200 (Enhanced)
Galaxy Ace 3 SoC (comes in two versions, 3G and LTE): Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9 (3G) / Dual-core 1.2 GHz Krait (LTE). Broadcom BCM21664 (3G) / Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 (LTE) (ie. 3G-version and 4G-version(LTE)), Broadcom VideoCore IV (3G) / Adreno 305 (LTE)
There are more such as Ace II Duo.
They are not compatible with each other (firmwares, recoveries, kernels etc.) and my suggestion is to simply make threads like:
Ace S5830
Ace Plus S7500
Ace Duos S6802
Ace 2 I8160
Ace 2x S7560/7560M
Ace 3
..just like the difference between the high-end Samsungs like Galaxy S, S+, S2, S3, S4 etc. to make it easier. Could make a master thread simply called Samsung Galaxy Ace (all models) and under that a sub forum for each model.
Just my 5 cents for all of us that own Galaxy Aces that aren't Ace 1.
Thanks,
Scyphe
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its not confusing. if people actually read threads, you wont be confused.
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teddytsen said:
its not confusing. if people actually read threads, you wont be confused.
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Okay, change confusing to time confusing and messy to find info about a particular phone that just happens to have Ace after Galaxy in the name. Afaik there's basically 1-2 threads that are about S7560/S7560M. It's simply difficult to find the latest information about my particular phone since Trend isn't even a listed phone in the "Type To Find Your Device...".
Now there's a Trend Plus just released and an owner of one of those won't find anything about it unless they know the actual model number (I don't know it's model number. Then there's the Galaxy Trend GT-S7392 where the name is exactly the same except for the model-number which on my phone is Galaxy Trend GT-S7560.
Yes, Samsung is releasing soooo many phones these days, even with the same names but with differences in hardware and supported firmware etc.
The Ace thread is still focused on the older Ace (GT-S5830) and Ace 2 (GT-I8160) while the Ace II x/Trend and newer Ace-models are flooding out the gates of Korean or Chinese factories as we speak being cheapish bundle-phones.
I just want a little more user-friendliness for all the various Ace-users that have totally different phones.
It is easy to say that. You think that we like to have your (ace 2x - trend - whatever ) posts in ace 2 section and that we like share forum with old ace ? Phone that have only 1 thing in common - name ! Ace 2 is at least 4 times better than ace 1 in every segment. Come on, ace 2 is not legacy and more not low activity device. We almost splited maybe 2 mths ago but new devdb system made that impossible so we are waiting for devdb system improvement to be able to move devdb threads. Then ace 2 can get own separated forum. You ace 2x - trend users can fight for spliting from us because you dont have devdb threads. Try asking moderators maybe you get at least get 1 sub-sub forum like ace 2 have 3 ( development, qa and general )
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In case it was aimed at my post:
Well, I agree with every single word you wrote and that was my whole point. The Ace 2 has a 800MHz dual core CPU, the Trend / Ace 2 x have a single core 1GHz MSM7627A/MSM7227A chipset (depending on where you look for info) with "Adreno 200 enhanced". We can't use your ROMs and you can't use our ROMs.
Please
I have a Samsung Galaxy Trend s7560 , which have android 4.0.4...I think that this phone trend/ace II x needs a separate thread like other samsung phones !!
1. Its called a forum
2. Request mod
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