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Rom Manager - Is it a good app to install ROM'S??

Is anyone else using Rom Manager to install ROM'S? I have a DX 2.2 froyo rooted and wanted to know if any other DX'ERS have used it and what they think about it. If you have any step by step or recommendations, I'm all ears. Oh, I'm a newbie at this so keep it simple please. Thanks
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Best app PERIOD for your DX. Just make sure you get the bootstrapper app from koush also as Rom Mngr needs bootstrap. Can back up your entire phone in its current state to restore to later. Highest of recommendations from a long time user here.
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So I have downloaded this app and cannot get any of the ROM's to actually load in. I need to purchase bootstrap to get it to be fully functional? Sorry but I am fairly new to this as well and am tired of all the Blur on the phone and it eating up my battery. I am running 2.2 rooted.

Yeah you need to get the bootstrapper.
I kept doing backups, but could never see them in the Rom Manager.
After I got the Bootstrapper, did the bootstrap recovery, then reboot recovery. It booted into the typical recovery like on the D1, then you can do a backup.
By the Way Great App Koush..

good advice.. I was in the same boat but just installed koush's bootsrapper.. gonna try it later - quick question - do you boot into recovery to do the backup? I am getting confused on what to do when - my goal is to back the phone up and them wipe it and put on some custom roms but have the ability to get the phone back to where it is today - my assumption is if I backup then wipe I can do that.. just trying to soak it all in
thanks
jim

darby427 said:
good advice.. I was in the same boat but just installed koush's bootsrapper.. gonna try it later - quick question - do you boot into recovery to do the backup? I am getting confused on what to do when - my goal is to back the phone up and them wipe it and put on some custom roms but have the ability to get the phone back to where it is today - my assumption is if I backup then wipe I can do that.. just trying to soak it all in
thanks
jim
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heres how i do it: i go into the bootstrapper and bootstrap the recovery; i dont reboot to recovery from bootstrap. then go to rom mngr and go to the backup and restore section, backup current rom. i rename it to something relevant to the current state of my phone like "ApexClean" or ApexNameofTheme" and backup. since i went to bootstrap just before rom mngr i have bootstrapped the recovery already and rom mngr does its thing. you can do everything from bootstrap by rebooting recovery in the bootstrap app, but i choose to bootstrap then interface with recovery via rom mngr. just a personnal preference. just reread this before posting and hope this makes sense to you. i will be happy to walk you through this if you need some help. Good luck!

Great instructions - I just backed it up - took about 4-5 minutes. Your steps worked like a champ - so my assumption is that I can restore the phone to this state at anytime. Now here is a question - If I wipe the phone to install a new rom - I am assuming rom manger will not be there. So I would need to reinstall rom manager and koush's bootstrapper to then put the backup back on to return the phone to this state?
thanks
jim
lu270bro said:
heres how i do it: i go into the bootstrapper and bootstrap the recovery; i dont reboot to recovery from bootstrap. then go to rom mngr and go to the backup and restore section, backup current rom. i rename it to something relevant to the current state of my phone like "ApexClean" or ApexNameofTheme" and backup. since i went to bootstrap just before rom mngr i have bootstrapped the recovery already and rom mngr does its thing. you can do everything from bootstrap by rebooting recovery in the bootstrap app, but i choose to bootstrap then interface with recovery via rom mngr. just a personnal preference. just reread this before posting and hope this makes sense to you. i will be happy to walk you through this if you need some help. Good luck!
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darby427 said:
Great instructions - I just backed it up - took about 4-5 minutes. Your steps worked like a champ - so my assumption is that I can restore the phone to this state at anytime. Now here is a question - If I wipe the phone to install a new rom - I am assuming rom manger will not be there. So I would need to reinstall rom manager and koush's bootstrapper to then put the backup back on to return the phone to this state?
thanks
jim
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you would be correct about your question. once you get familiar and comfortable with how these recovery apps and interfaces work its really a piece of cake. i like using the rom mngr interface just because i can rename my backups to something i can recognize, instead of a bunch of numbers. glad it worked out for you. btw , as personal preference and a suggestion to you, i enjoy changing roms and themes quite frequently. i have gone thru all the steps to get root and froyo(leaked 2.3.15) on my phone. once i got a "baseline" system, i installed RM, Bootstrap, Astro File Mngr, and Terminal Emulator, then i did the steps mentioned in myh previous post and created a clean system backup and renamed it "froyocleanroot." with this "froyocleanroot" backup if i want to change anything, rom or theme, i just restore to this backup and, voila, i have a clean phone/system ready with the necessary root applications already installed!

I hate me [n00b question]

So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. Unlocking the bootloader is needed to flash CWM and SU. I have read many many things about NANDROID, how is NANDROID different from CWM?
So I guess my next question is: How does one remove SU? In the process of rooting and flashing CWM and ROMs I make a backup prior to going to deep... that Backup will have SU, I have unrooted, but SU is still on the phone and I cannot seem to remove it.
Another question is: where are the data files on the phone for apps like Plants vs Zombies? I would like to move them off my phone prior to root, though I'm not sure if that is possible (is it?).
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead

toonhead85 said:
So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. This process is needed to flash CWM (but not -su?). I have read many many things about NANDROID, but I have no idea what that is except a backup of a stock rom. When I power my phone off and press Vol up and power on then go to recovery I get an Android w/ a triangle with an exclamation and cant do anything at that point.
So I guess my next question is: How does one backup a stock rom (like you would using CMW) without rooting? or is there not a way and I should just except that when I root for the first time I should expect to loose everything and take off things like pics ect before hand.
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead
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Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet

obsanity said:
Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet
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i was going to write something similar. toonhead85 you should do a bit more research and reading before you start hacking on your phone. youve hearts in the right place, but youre not quite ready just yet. at least take small steps at first

A little more clarification or nandroid backups:
Nandroid is a specific type of backup of the phone's system files. I think that includes system rom and radio. I not sure if any data is included in the backup. You should make a nandroid backup of the stock rom bbefore you flash any custom roms. If something goes wrong with a rom flash or if you want to restore to a previous stock or custom rom, you can restore from the backups you have made. You create these nandroid backups by booting into recovery and selecting the backup option (I think maybe named backup and restore). Backups are usually found on your SD card, but you can copy them to your computer to save additional copies.
If you want to also backup apps, get a good backup program from the market. Two that I have used are Titanium Backup for Root and MyBackups for Root. They can backup and restore apps and data as well as system data.

Thanks for all of the amazing replys. I do know that I am not at the point where I wanna muck around in the system to much as this is my one and only phone. But I would like to at some point.
But something I wanna know is this: If in flash CWM, can I use it without root? Say to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing SU? I only ask because I am currently at work and can't test the idea.
Another question is this: I know how to get to the stock recovery, but from what I read you use the VOL UP to get the "Menu". When I push any (hardware) button I get nothing and the image being displayed is an Android with a triangle and there is an exclimation point in it. Any thoughts?

a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring

simms22 said:
a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring
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and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?

toonhead85 said:
and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
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unlocked bootloader

FANTASTIC!!! Thank you all so very much!!

simms22 said:
unlocked bootloader
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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So I could flash unlock my bootloader > flash CWM > Make a backup and save it to my computer then when i reboot my phone it would automatically reflash the stock recovery? and if this is correct, then all i would need to do is flash CWM to restore the saved backup?
So here's a question, is it the action of flashing SU that keeps the phone from removing CWM and reinstalling stock recovery?

You must rename the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh file or it will keep replacing the stock recovery. See this post, item 2.

[Q] A few questions about wiping data and ROMS

I have looked really hard to find the answer to this, but I couldn't find it.
I have a HTC EVO Shift, which was already flashed to Boost Mobile before I bought it.
After looking at the Boot Animations and apps, I realized the phone was also running the MikShifted-G ROM.
I have been using the phone for some time now, but after I found that my phone was not getting the upgrade to ICS, I decided that I wanted to switch ROMs, especially ones that were ICS and stuff.
I followed many tutorials and I have done the following:
-I have rooted my phone.
-I have installed ROM Manager, and I have gotten ClockWorkMod to work.
-I backed up my data with the backup option.
Here are the questions I have:
-It says on most ROMS to "wipe everything." If I choose to Factory Reset/Wipe All in ClockWorkMod, will that un-flash my phone back to Sprint? I do not want to factory reset if my phone will not run on Boost Mobile, hence it is a lot cheaper.
-If I install another ROM and decide to go back to the ROM my phone used to have, does installing ROM Manager again on the new ROM allow me to use the backup I made to go back to how my phone used to be?
Thanks,
Sarcasticphoenix

I can't say for sure but doing a full wipe and flashing a ROM shouldn't have any affect on your phone working with boost. Search the EVO threads, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people on boost flashing various ROMs and kernels.
As far as actually flashing the ROM, you should get familiar with using recovery manually, not just relying on ROM manager to do everything for you. Here's a nice guide on how to flash ROMs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266885. Be sure to make a nandroid backup before flashing any ROM (If you already made a backup using ROM manager it can be restored either via recovery or the ROM manager app.)

Also consider using Dread 7 Us's modified recovery. Based off Clockwork Mod but with some great differences: super wipe where you can choose which partitions to wipe and do it multiple times automatically(much less tedious than Clockword Mod's wipe each once method) and it also removes the ton of 'NO's' you have to scroll through to confirm an action in Clockwork Mod and others upgrades I don't recall.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...RECOVERY] CW-Enhanced [v1.1b] Updated 5/22/12
Flash it just like Clockwork Mod but do a nandroid before just in case. Make sure to also flash the updated one as the first version had MD5 check issues.

roms
if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?

tello2323 said:
if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?
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As long as you have s-off nandroid restore will work fine. As far as the roms it depends on if the roms have the boost mobile apn's in them or not. A.F.A.I.K. CM7 roms and variants have the most apn support. Might want to do a search on google if cm7 supports boost or not.

[Q] cm10 unintall method for htc one v (india-gsm)

i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone

romah1 said:
i have installed cm10 on htc one v primo-u (india gsm ) and i wish to revert to the original image.
i tried to flash India_1567201recovery_signed.img file but no success.
can someone help me with a procedure how to revert to either 1.56.720 or 2.09.720 image of the phone
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How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.

ItzCrooK2UxD said:
How did you try to flash the RUU? You can not flash it like a normal ROM
Also if you are looking for the RUU try HERE
I see what you're trying to do, that won't work...you can't flash a recovery to get to stock because stock phone won't flash from recovery, which is why once you get root the first thing you do is flash a custom recovery. Use the RUU to flash it back to shipped state stock, or if you are trying to keep root and just want to use a different ROM. More clarification on what you are trying to accomplish would be nice.
If you did a Nandroid prior to flashing CM10 I would wipe all partitions except SD and restore the Nandroid, if all you want to do is get CM10 off your phone. Remember Nandroid Backups are your friend do them before flashing anything and save them to your PC if you don't want the SD space taken. Doing this has made flashing pain free and hassle free. If I don't like how my phone is running after a flash I can always get it right back to how it was when I was happy with it. Lastly there was a time when I had a Nandroid backup of a Sense ROM and was on AOSP and wanted to flash back to Sense, well my Backup wouldn't flash. After spending hours raising hell I did a clean install of the ROM booted once, then rebooted into recovery and flashed the Nandroid backup that had the settings I was using (when I was on Sense, it won't restore data and apps used on AOSP)...sorry if its not much help but more details are needed. But you have a starting point.
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i have installed CM10 without backing up any image, therefore i cannot restore the orifginal vendor's rom. Nandroid back would have prevented this situation. the second problem is that I couldnt find any RUU for this phone. indeed the link you attached seems to have it bu unfortunately it is in chineese and after pushing all the buttons i couldn't download the file. so my options are
1- to pray that someone will be kind enough to publish it in a manner that it is accessible
2- I have a friend with a simillar phone , can i somehow back up hus rom and restore it in mine ????
thank
romah1

[Q] Custom recovery and CWM Recovery-on-boot for stock ICS

I've looked all over this forum and I hope that I can get a definitive answer here. I don't feel like my use case is that unique but I'm going to be as specific as possible and hopefully get as concise and complete an answer as possible.
Until recently, I was running a custom GB-based ROM. When I was running GB, I used the Atrix 2 Bootstrapper and RAZR-CWM-Recovery-on-boot-J.Y.Daddy (or whatever it's called) to get CWM Recovery on boot and make backups and so on.
I ran the return to stock script from my GB ROM and am now running the stock ICS ROM that I got from the official OTA upgrade from AT&T. I've obviously rooted it.
I want to make a backup of my current stock rooted ROM with CWM Recovery. To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade. I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
If the simple solution is not possible and the only solution is to install Numa or Paranoid or the unofficial CM ROM, that's fine, I'd just like to know.
Thanks in advance.

My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
That should be good to restore with other recoveries.. Plus you can uninstall BMM and don't need to multi-boot..
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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alteredlikeness said:
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.

wormmd said:
I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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why not multi boot using BMM? checkout Numa, it has all the stock ICS goodness but debloated and much faster. see for urself
i'm using it and its much better than ICS stock

wormmd said:
To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade.
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The bootstrapper does work with ICS.
I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
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Well apart from bootstrapper and BMM we don't have any other custom recovery for Atrix 2.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
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Well there's always the fxz way
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My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
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Yup as altered said.But from my understanding you don't want to multi-boot right? Then you don't need to edit recovery.fstb.Just install it from play store install the hijacks and make a backup(in tar format preferably you'll find the option in there)
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that is assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now.
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I really don't see logically why would you be so hell bent to avoid BMM.
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
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You can do two things:
1.Install BMM make a backup of your current system.Install the custom ROM you want.Restore whenever you feel like.
2.Install BMM.Edit recovery.fstb(don't go after the name you just have to edit some text).Leave your current system on system 1.Install any ROM you like on system 3 and/or above.No need to restore.Switch between your choice of system whenever you wish.
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