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While this may sound like me complaining, I do understand I ws getting away with not having to pay for internet.
Has anyone else noticed that the TZones loophole has been cutoff. At approx 1:30am MST this morning both my brother and I noticed that our phones stopped syncing with our exchange OTA. He looked in to a couple of things on the exchagne and couldn't find anything wrong. We both power cycled our phone and still nothing. I then tried to browse the net and sure enough I couldn't. I checked\double checked\triple checked all of the settings - wap.voicestream.com - 216.155.165.50 and still nothing. I posted a thread on Howard Forums and have received a couple of responses but not enough for me to think that TMo stopped the service. Maybe they are just doing some sort of upgrade\maintanence? Wishfull thinking. I guess if not I will have to pay which is not a problem. The nice thing about the "loophole" was getting Exchange to sync OTA. I rarley used it for browsing.
I too posted in HoFo about the "outage"...
I've been out of contract with t-mobile for over a year now, enjoying the "non-proxied" direct internet access for $5.99/month that they've been offering- but in my situation, there's no way I'd pay them $30/month for unrestricted EDGE-only access.
I've been a t-mobile customer for 10+ years, but I'm strongly considering jumping ship to Cingular--doing the math, I can go to them for $20 more a month instead of $30, get rollover, AND get 3G speeds (and services, in my area) on my 8525. Hotspot service is useless to me, since I have municipal wifi access where I am 99% of the time.
So, $30 more for EDGE speeds (and useless hotspot service) or $20 more for 3G speed? For me, it's a no brainer.
I am back up and running. I removed the "My ISP" connection and set up a new one under "My Work". I then set up the Proxy agian to use port 8080 instead of just 80.
I've done the same--however, most data-capable apps (gmail app, resco radio, remote desktop) don't seem to be proxy capable and fail to work.
Oh well. Direct Push is working, and PIE can browse the web. It was nice while it lasted.
kugeln said:
I've done the same--however, most data-capable apps (gmail app, resco radio, remote desktop) don't seem to be proxy capable and fail to work.
Oh well. Direct Push is working, and PIE can browse the web. It was nice while it lasted.
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Hey Houston folks, same here I need to switch around ISP and The work network to use either email or web browsing, google map, etc... what a pain in the neck. hopfully someone out there smart enough to find a work around to do both.
sonystyle said:
Hey Houston folks, same here I need to switch around ISP and The work network to use either email or web browsing, google map, etc... what a pain in the neck. hopfully someone out there smart enough to find a work around to do both.
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With the way I am set up I can do both, email and browse. While the browsing seems to be limited to true WAP sites I don't really mind. I really only need to connection for Push anyway.
The same thing happened a few months ago. It lasted for about 3 or 4 days and then everything was back to normal.
I'm confused. Are you the guys that are back up and running paying at least $4.99 a month for data or are you getting completely free data access??
FallN said:
I'm confused. Are you the guys that are back up and running paying at least $4.99 a month for data or are you getting completely free data access??
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Personally I am paying $5.99 for TMobile Web (TZones) and yes I am back up and running.
I'm also paying $5.99 a month for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm back up and running again without having to change any settings.
I'm also paying $5.99 for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm also back up and running without any changes in my settings.
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I'm also paying $5.99 for T-Mobile web and I just checked and I'm also back up and running without any changes in my settings.
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So you don't have the Proxy settings in? That is the only way I can get mine to wrk for both Browsing and Push Email.
i wish mine still worked.
none works with or without proxy, i had it working for a few weeks when i got my PPC phone, but now its gone, i dont think i have tzones but i do have unlimited txt/mms stuff (family plan)
Mines back to not working again either. They must be having some kind of problem with their servers because i I can't even get to the T-zones and even if they were trying to close some loopholes so that people couldn't access the entire net they wouldn't shut down T-zones with it.
T-Mobile Making a Big Mistake
I just found this thread. I have two plans with T-Mobile. One for myself (work) and one for my family. I have been with T-Mobile for a year. After coming from Verizon and Cingular. It's been a good experience.
However, T-Mobile's lack of either a 3G network or a decently priced plan is going to push me back to Cingular. I used a Wizard on T-Mobile for the past year. I paid $29.99 per month for their "Total Internet" package. The package includes unlimited Edge Internet and Hot Spots. The hot spot service is next to worthless.
Until T-Mobile offers a full 3G network, the price for unlimited internet on a Wizard, Dash, or Wing should be $14.99 (half what they are now charging).
Since March, I've been using a TyTN on T-Mobiles network. One week ago, I got a Cingular ATT card and Cingy's data plan for $44.00 and it is worth it. I'm crusing the web between 400 and 1000 kbps. On T-Mobiles Edge, I get 75 to 146 kbs. This is not worth $29.99.
I'd keep my wife and kids on T-Mobile and get data plans for two or more of this if the cost were no more than $14.99. That's all it's worth. I've talked to many loyal T-Mobile customers who are switching to AT&T for the same reason.
I hope T-Mobile is listening. They need to get their 3G launched and keep their data rates competetive until they do.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/internet/wifi.jsp
The question is...is there a way to get it without having an iphone?
WizardN00b said:
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/internet/wifi.jsp
The question is...is there a way to get it without having an iphone?
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When you visit a hotspot it will has for your phone number which my guess is to verify if you have the iphone plan on your line.
I have DSL from AT&T for my home computer internet. I use the "pro" version of DSL which gives me the Free WIFI access for my laptop and/or cell phone when I'm mobile. I have my cellular service with Verizon Wireless for my XV6800 and can use wifi on that phone free at any AT&T sponsored WIFI hotspot including many MickeyDee's or Startucks, Barnes & Noble, etc., etc. I can use my laptop with WIFI there as well, independently of each other.
Justin
JustinAppi said:
I have DSL from AT&T for my home computer internet. I use the "pro" version of DSL which gives me the Free WIFI access for my laptop and/or cell phone when I'm mobile. I have my cellular service with Verizon Wireless for my XV6800 and can use wifi on that phone free at any AT&T sponsored WIFI hotspot including many MickeyDee's or Startucks, Barnes & Noble, etc., etc. I can use my laptop with WIFI there as well, independently of each other.
Justin
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I too have the fastest DSL from AT&T and I too get free wifi from AT&T hotspots. I have an iPhone 3G and also a Diamond (waiting for the Touch Pro "AT&T Fuze" to purchase) and I use free wifi even from before the release to iPhone users.
The iPhone and BlackBerry have created a class of know-it-alls who can prove their point about anything, be it geography, history or cooties, thanks to their mobile Internet connections. But the rest of us had refuge: Sometimes, they were out of range of a quick cell network.
how does ATT know that some people have iphones? I've never told them what kind of phone I have.
What if my friend gives me his iphone, how does ATT know that I have one?
I think the IMEI would rat you out or maybe even the contract you own.
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how does ATT know that some people have iphones? I've never told them what kind of phone I have.
What if my friend gives me his iphone, how does ATT know that I have one?
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Just double checking to see if this was possible on non-iphones...
its possible to change your imei but it is illegal to do so most places, AND if you ever got caught with it you would probably look REALLY suspicious, as in a terrorist
I live in Canada but Rogers has a unlimited web-browsing plan for $7 and ppl have forums on the internet talking about spoofing your phone to look/communicate like another phone (the iphone in this case).
I'll try finding the link.
Hi,
I just bought a used HTC G1. With AT&T, there is unlimited internet for non smart phones for $10. Is there any way(APN?) I can use that instead of the 200mb/2GB data plan which is alot more $$$?
BTW, I changed my data package to non smartphone and when I plugged my sim into the G1, I got a message saying that a smartphone data plan is required so it automatically enrolled me in.
saadmallick said:
Hi,
I just bought a used HTC G1. With AT&T, there is unlimited internet for non smart phones for $10. Is there any way(APN?) I can use that instead of the 200mb/2GB data plan which is alot more $$$?
BTW, I changed my data package to non smartphone and when I plugged my sim into the G1, I got a message saying that a smartphone data plan is required so it automatically enrolled me in.
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I'm not sure how you can sign up for the unlimited internet for non-smartphone with AT&T using G1, but here's my case:
I was already an existing AT&T customer & I had a Motorola RAZAR V3 before I got a G1.
I bought a T-Mobile G1 from Craigslist & unlocked it (You have 3 choicea: 1. you can ask one of your T-Mobile friend make a call to T-Mobile unlock it for free, or 2. you can buy the unlock service from eBay, or 3. find an authorized cel phone selling company who offers such service for a fee), then input the APN setting listed below on G1 (if you need more detailed step-by-step instructions, you can try this blog post, but I can't remember if that's the site I followed the setup), then I added AT&T's unlimited medianet data plan (which was offered plan at that time, I think that's back in 2008 or earlier when I did this), as there's no such data plan offered via AT&T anymore - they put me on the unlimited data plan when I switched to Family plan on my account with my family in 2010.
Here's the APN setting works with AT&T - this is what I have on my G1 and it works just fine for everything (except mms - because G1 doesn't have compatible built for AT&T carrier on this particular service):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2822243&postcount=9
The person claim this setting works well, but I haven't tried this setting (it's a false claim on this post that this setting will get you onto AT&T's 3G network), so other than no 3G network, I don't see what this setting benefits you from the previous setting listed above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4170196&postcount=232
Just thought you might want to know that you can only get onto AT&T's 2G (Edge) network using a G1 cel phone on AT&T carrier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4121306&postcount=230
Since Sept 2012 I've been enjoying non smartphone data plan on my N8000. Starting Feb 1st I've been receiving text from AT&T that laptop, tablet or MiFi devices requiring eligible data plan. Has anyone gotten similar text or is it just me? I remember a few days prior I deleted the proxy setting on the medianet APN. Does that have something to do with it?
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Since Sept 2012 I've been enjoying non smartphone data plan on my N8000. Starting Feb 1st I've been receiving text from AT&T that laptop, tablet or MiFi devices requiring eligible data plan. Has anyone gotten similar text or is it just me? I remember a few days prior I deleted the proxy setting on the medianet APN. Does that have something to do with it?
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Sounds like they've updated their database of device IMEI numbers and now capture your device's identity as a tablet. I don't know what you were paying but maybe Straight Talk is a viable alternative for you. Straigh Talk's GSM srvice uses AT&T and TMobile so you should still be able to get AT&T service If you order their SIM from Straight Talk.
The sims card on straight talk work for att and T-Mobile but run off of T-Mobile towers not att already been down that road
I currently own a SGH-T989 (Samsung S2 T-mobile) phone and I have the $30/month prepaid plan that gives me unlimited data. However I can not use mobile hotspot, I am shown a message that I need to upgrade my plan.
I am planning to get a LG Nexus 5 phone directly from google play store and NOT from T-mobile. My understanding is that when you buy the phone from T-mobile they put restrictions on the phone which doesn't allow you to use mobile hotspot. If I get the phone from google play store since it isn't tied to any particular carrier it should not have a restriction on mobile hotspot. Will I be able to use mobile hotspot on my $30/month prepaid plan or does T-mobile still finds a way to restrict mobile hotspot on a factory unlocked phone?
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I currently own a SGH-T989 (Samsung S2 T-mobile) phone and I have the $30/month prepaid plan that gives me unlimited data. However I can not use mobile hotspot, I am shown a message that I need to upgrade my plan.
I am planning to get a LG Nexus 5 phone directly from google play store and NOT from T-mobile. My understanding is that when you buy the phone from T-mobile they put restrictions on the phone which doesn't allow you to use mobile hotspot. If I get the phone from google play store since it isn't tied to any particular carrier it should not have a restriction on mobile hotspot. Will I be able to use mobile hotspot on my $30/month prepaid plan or does T-mobile still finds a way to restrict mobile hotspot on a factory unlocked phone?
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Last time I was on it recently, there was a 100mb limit to hotspot usage on the 5GB data plan. Maybe you can get around it with rooting the phone. This was with a phone I bought from Google Play directly. It is internal in the new way Android handles hotspots with 4.4 KitKat, I believe.
nikosbocho said:
I currently own a SGH-T989 (Samsung S2 T-mobile) phone and I have the $30/month prepaid plan that gives me unlimited data. However I can not use mobile hotspot, I am shown a message that I need to upgrade my plan.
I am planning to get a LG Nexus 5 phone directly from google play store and NOT from T-mobile. My understanding is that when you buy the phone from T-mobile they put restrictions on the phone which doesn't allow you to use mobile hotspot. If I get the phone from google play store since it isn't tied to any particular carrier it should not have a restriction on mobile hotspot. Will I be able to use mobile hotspot on my $30/month prepaid plan or does T-mobile still finds a way to restrict mobile hotspot on a factory unlocked phone?
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Doesn't matter if you get it from T-Mobile, or through the Play Store. They are the exact same phone. The restrictions are not tied to the place of purchase, but to the carrier itself and what plan you are using. Apparently, this was introduced in Android 4.4 to allow carriers to know whenever you use your phone as a hotspot. I am currently on this $30 T-Mobile plan using my N5 I bought off the Play Store. Unfortunately, the free 100MB of hotspot usage does not apply to this plan, so everytime you try to use hotspot, it directs you to T-Mo's "upsell" page. HOWEVER, there are ways around it. The search button is your friend. :good: Search out some of the threads in these here forums. There's a fix where you can edit a database file on the root of the phone so it doesn't block you from tethering. I can tell you from experience that it works like a charm. I can tether as much as I want now (at least up until the 5GB "limit" of this plan). I've never really needed to surpass 5GB.
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Doesn't matter if you get it from T-Mobile, or through the Play Store. They are the exact same phone. The restrictions are not tied to the place of purchase, but to the carrier itself and what plan you are using. Apparently, this was introduced in Android 4.4 to allow carriers to know whenever you use your phone as a hotspot. I am currently on this $30 T-Mobile plan using my N5 I bought off the Play Store. Unfortunately, the free 100MB of hotspot usage does not apply to this plan, so everytime you try to use hotspot, it directs you to T-Mo's "upsell" page. HOWEVER, there are ways around it. The search button is your friend. :good: Search out some of the threads in these here forums. There's a fix where you can edit a database file on the root of the phone so it doesn't block you from tethering. I can tell you from experience that it works like a charm. I can tether as much as I want now (at least up until the 5GB "limit" of this plan). I've never really needed to surpass 5GB.
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Thank you for explaining it to me. I thought the phones that T-mobile sell you are tweaked for T-mobile in particular, so they are locked to the T-mobile carrier while the ones from google are factory unlocked and might not have some of the restrictions. But basically both T-mobile and Google play sell you exactly the same phone and the $30 T-Mobile plan won't allow you for tethering and mobile hotspot. I'll look into rooting the phone and changing the settings when I get one.
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Thank you for explaining it to me. I thought the phones that T-mobile sell you are tweaked for T-mobile in particular, so they are locked to the T-mobile carrier while the ones from google are factory unlocked and might not have some of the restrictions. But basically both T-mobile and Google play sell you exactly the same phone and the $30 T-Mobile plan won't allow you for tethering and mobile hotspot. I'll look into rooting the phone and changing the settings when I get one.
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first of all the other user is right. there are no differences between two phones. no carrier is allowed to put any restriction on nexus 5
with kitkat google introduced a feature for tagging tethered data so the telecoms (if they wish) can check it against their user list to determined if it is allowed. search here for the link called nexus 5 tethering block?
to sum it up, this could be done with root or without root. that like will explain both ways. spend couple of hours reading that than having couple of days headache when the phone bootloops . does not sound plausible? do a search here for bootloop and you will see half of them are related to this.
the phone has to be properly connected to the computer. proper usb drivers installed and adb & fastboot working properly.
apply the settings.db hack. with or without root.
change the apn protocol to ipv4
if necessary use a user agent switcher for your browser.
nikosbocho said:
Thank you for explaining it to me. I thought the phones that T-mobile sell you are tweaked for T-mobile in particular, so they are locked to the T-mobile carrier while the ones from google are factory unlocked and might not have some of the restrictions. But basically both T-mobile and Google play sell you exactly the same phone and the $30 T-Mobile plan won't allow you for tethering and mobile hotspot. I'll look into rooting the phone and changing the settings when I get one.
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Correct. The restrictions are more from whatever SIM you put in it. In fact, when supply was short, or when people wanted to have the phone in hand same day, they would just buy it from a T-Mobile store and pop in their own AT&T or Sprint SIM card. Also, not sure if you know this, but T-Mobile only sells the 16GB version, and it's $50 more than what it sells for on the Play Store.
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Correct. The restrictions are more from whatever SIM you put in it. In fact, when supply was short, or when people wanted to have the phone in hand same day, they would just buy it from a T-Mobile store and pop in their own AT&T or Sprint SIM card. Also, not sure if you know this, but T-Mobile only sells the 16GB version, and it's $50 more than what it sells for on the Play Store.
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Since my original idea of getting a Nexus 5 because it would be factory unlocked and would not have this restriction is not valid anymore, I might as well look into other Android phones too, not just the Nexus 5. Thank you.
nikosbocho said:
Since my original idea of getting a Nexus 5 because it would be factory unlocked and would not have this restriction is not valid anymore, I might as well look into other Android phones too, not just the Nexus 5. Thank you.
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there seems to be some confusion here. nexus 5 is unlocked period.
as of now any phone with jelly bean or kitkat has the tagging enabled by default. so unless you want something with ICS or older the other options are iphones?