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Done a quick search but can't see anything on this here on the forum so here goes:
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hd2/specification.html
Will one of the XDA moderators consider opening a dedicated forum for this device, now known as the HTC HD2 please?
I am toying between going straight out and buying one tomorrow morning, providing the stockists advertising them actually have the item in stock, or waiting until Christmas. Anyone else considering purchasing and of so how do we get the developers interested in doing stuff for this device?
Cheers
WB
LOL,
It was only ANNOUNCED today mate, that means you can forget about going out tomorrow and actually buy one ;-)
That said, I am going to buy one as soon as I can, hopefully somewhere around the end of october if we get lucky.
Me thinks that HTC got a best seller here, and am not worried that the XDA developers won't pick up this device anytime soon.
Until then, I keep drooling over the pics & specs
Clubbraxx,
I had a conversation with a supplier the other day and was left with the impression that some devices were already out there, waiting for today's announcement as the go-ahead for being able to release direct to the public as of now.
Needless to say I will be on the phone in the morning chasing up the said supplier and seeing what they have to say for themselves.
Just seen someone moaning about the price of the device at circa £550. Given the high-end spec of the device and taking a 3 or 4 year ownership span into account, I would say that this appears to be a reasonable price for a sim free device.
No doubt the networks will be doing their best to tie in the unwary into 3 year/multi dollar contracts to make a killing on these.
Let me know if you hear any news.
Cheers
WB
The device should be available before the end of this month. I'm looking forward to it
Btw, the device is listed on expansys for $829,99 (or €649,99).
I was told by a customer service rep at O2(UK) at the weekend, that they have the device listed for mid October release.
As an O2 customer who has a contract ending on November 1st, I am considering getting one ASAP. I am unsure however, whether to get HD2, or TP2.
QWERTY & TV out, or Monster capacitive screen. Hmmmmm.... decisions, decisions.
Any help appreciated. lol.
Please merge, so many loe threads now!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560143&page=77
op...what have you been smoking?
Availability Update
Following my chasing up of contacts today it looks like network providers such as o2 will have their stock to be released from mid October, ie next week. Sim free providers will not be getting their stock for release until a month later, ie mid November.
The above applies to the UK only; I have no idea what the position is elsewhere.
My order is just about to go in....
WB
Made my order today
Hi all!
What do you think of this model?
I fills my needs by 200%, but i heard that some software made for older 6 and 6.1 wont work on this new 6.5? Is that right? And i've also heard that Win mobile 7 is done. if so why did they not use win 7 on this new model?
Thanks in advance
****... I bought new Touch HD one week ago... Now I see HD2 and I'm not very happy...
stabloid said:
I was told by a customer service rep at O2(UK) at the weekend, that they have the device listed for mid October release.
As an O2 customer who has a contract ending on November 1st, I am considering getting one ASAP. I am unsure however, whether to get HD2, or TP2.
QWERTY & TV out, or Monster capacitive screen. Hmmmmm.... decisions, decisions.
Any help appreciated. lol.
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Depends on how much you would really use the TV out feature. They keyboard...thats different, for me if the on screen keyboard is at least as good as the iPhones I can dump the physical one and be happy.
Hello all
Review Video HTC HD2 – Windows Mobile 6.5 at its best
you wont find this on Youtube
Ok I just got a random call from some guy from HTC, said his name was Eric but would not give a last name. He wanted to "follow up" on me saying I was unhappy about the whole S-Off/Bootloader thing. I he kept skirting the question of "Are we going to get out bootloaders unlocked or not?" He finally told me that they were waiting on Corporate to let "Them" know WHEN they would be unlocked, so I asked him to confirm that he just said at some point they would be unlocked, and he back tracked really fast and said IF they would be unlocked, and his dept. did not expect to know anything for a "month or two", but HTC was watching Twitter and Facebook and know the customers are unhappy, and they strive to make thier customers happy...yada ..yada..yada....I told him at this point a simple Yes or No would make me happy, but we all know I didn't get that either. So has anyone else got a call from "Eric" or one of his friends over at HTC? Maybe if they work together they can find thier asses from a hole in the ground!
I honestly feel bad for Eric. Low level outbound call center representative. His whole job is centered around contacting angry customers and trying to pacify their concerns without giving straight answers (which he probably doesn't even truly have).
I'm glad you didn't claim to tear him a new asshole or anything. Bottom line, let's hope the bootloaders are unlocked soon and Eric can take a breather right along with us.
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No actually I was very nice to him. I even told him I was frustrated at the situation and NOT at him and I felt bad for him too. I think it is a shame HTC has hung these poor people out to dry with no real answers for anyone. I really would hate to have his job right now.
Well that's good! Although when I worked in a call center, if the person I was taking to sounded like a cute girl, it made my job so much better
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I don't believe that they will open the bootloader
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It's been now almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Hi Chaps,
I've been having an issue with the signal on my phone, am now on my 4th Sensation..
I was on the phone to a really helpful chap at HTC and we were discussing exchanging my vodafone branded handset for an unbranded one (was never going to happen) but then I asked about rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
He went and had a chat with a colleague and came back and said that when the bootloader is unlocked, I will be able to flash the non branded firmware.
Rooting will void warranty, but flashing another firmware will be fine.
He confirmed this with another colleague, but as far as I can see, we will DEFINITELY get unlocked bootloader.
He didn't know when, but he didn't feel it would be too long to wait now!
Sorry for the off topic - though it is related...
I received a call from HTC from leaving a negative review from a survey they sent to me regarding an email I received from customer support. Basically said the same thing about the bootloader but did know about the temporary root for the Sensation. I guess that they are watching the dev. forum.
paulmor said:
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It's been know almost two months since the first Sensation hit the market on 19th May. We all want to believe the unconfirmed rumours (on FB, Twitter, but non on any official HTC site or document) that they will open the Bootloader, first for new handsets and then to us who have already got the unit.
The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are just not willing to roll it over to us.
I have lost all faith in HTC in this matter and now rely on those wonderful and talented developers to crack it.
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Of course they know what to do. They knew since day one. It's their device and their bootloader. IMO the problem are the carriers. HTC knows that people are unhappy with the locked bootloader policy and that they have to give their customers what they want or else there will be consequences. But on the other hand they have to keep the carriers happy. I believe they will leak the way and let the devs do the rest
Same here! I have faith that they will figure it out. )
No not off topic really. I was just really shocked when I got the call from HTC. I really did not expect to hear from them. Like I said I felt bad for the guy, but I feel that they should at least give us a yes or no. For that I have lost alot of faith in the company.
Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Hmmm.... Just got this in my email.
HTC wrote: "Hi Traci! We are sticking by our decision to provide a way for our users to be able to unlock their bootloaders. We appreciate your patience and will provide an update with more information as soon as we can."
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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I received a call from a Gordon, and some girl on two seperate occasions. They are in my voicemail ...was planning to call them back.
Anyways, these were for my Mytough4g complaint, fwiw.
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Now they are just copy and pasting. I received that exact email from them a week ago.
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Well at least someone else got calls and emails...was about to think my new phone had generated me a stalker! lol
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The fact that there are some S-OFF unit circling around just shows that they know how to do it, but are not willing to roll it over to us.
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Really ? There's doubt in your mind that they don't know "HOW" to do it ? Ever occur to you that THEY are the ones that wrote the software for the bootloader and have every line of code for it available ? LOL
It was never a question of IF they know how to do it, it's a question of WHEN they'll decide to release the unlocked bootloader. It's politics, not technical know-how. Rest assured, they have plenty of that. LOL
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Uhhh....? I think you need to re-read his post... He said the exact same thing you just did..
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ok so basically today at a closer inspection on my phone I noticed it had dust under the screen and I know it's a common problem for the sensations :/ so I emailed O2 but I was thinking I really don't want another sensation if it's going to continue to gather dust under the screen so I thought I'd ask O2 if I could swap my faulty device for the nexus I mean I'm on a 24 month contract at £42 a month so it's not like they'd be loosing out you guys reckon they'll even consider it ? This is what I sent them:
Hi a month or two ago I signed onto a contract with yourselves for 24 months with a HTC sensation, now I'm very happy with your service and love the network but unfortunately I have a fault with my device as there are visible dust particles underneath the screen and as you may know this is a big problem especially when I'm paying £41 a month for 24 months. That's a lot of money for a faulty device. I know this can be a common problem with the sensations and was wondering weather I could switch my device with the up coming galaxy nexus as they are around the same tariff price or could I switch devices and just pay the adjusted tariff price ? If not then could you please either repair or replace my device?
Thank you for your time
Joshua Carr
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Unless your phone has been faulty on 3 occasions, then no, they won't do nothing!
Your title says Nexus S, just a heads up.
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Will bmw give you a Mercedes when you need an oil change? No. mod close this.
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Theoretically under the sale of goods act you could reject it all together as it's not fit for purpose and then sign up for the Nexus.
It's a grey area on what is classed as a reasonable time. But given your contract is 24 months I'd say 2-3 months in would be considered reasonable.
Add tot he fact that this is a known issue you have the right to reject any offers of repairs.
I'd play hard ball with them IF you really want to change.
I work for a mobile company and the answer is absolutely no way what so ever. They will replace that handset under warranty, only after having about 5 of 1 phone with the same fault will a network provider look at the possibility of giving you a similar spec/priced phone. And got the sensation that's the s2 .
Sorry chief
Jordan
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Your title says Nexus S, just a heads up.
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Sh*t well I get where your coming from guys its just with it being a common problem with the sensations I'd rather trade up then have to deal with a possible 3-4 more repairs :/
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Yeh its a bit naff a know , but they will bring the contractual agreement out. Signed with that phone on that tariff. Your not the first to ask, it will make no difference if you upped your tariff to £61 a month to tariff.
Best bet is get it replaced then sell the phone and buy the nexus
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Will bmw give you a Mercedes when you need an oil change? No. mod close this.
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Yeah, required regular maintenance is exactly the same as a manufacturing defect, well done.
I'm on my 4th Sensation, which now has dust under the screen (not all were because of dust), and I've had it, no way will I settle for another when I take it back.
This stupid dust issue is the reason I am strongly considering trading my Sensation for a co-workers Nexus S by the end of the day today. I'm now on my second one with this problem and I have seen others being on there 5th one with the same issue.
My coworker said he can live with the dust issue. I, however, can not.
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ok so basically today at a closer inspection on my phone I noticed it had dust under the screen and I know it's a common problem for the sensations :/ so I emailed O2 but I was thinking I really don't want another sensation if it's going to continue to gather dust under the screen so I thought I'd ask O2 if I could swap my faulty device for the nexus I mean I'm on a 24 month contract at £42 a month so it's not like they'd be loosing out you guys reckon they'll even consider it ? This is what I sent them:
Hi a month or two ago I signed onto a contract with yourselves for 24 months with a HTC sensation, now I'm very happy with your service and love the network but unfortunately I have a fault with my device as there are visible dust particles underneath the screen and as you may know this is a big problem especially when I'm paying £41 a month for 24 months. That's a lot of money for a faulty device. I know this can be a common problem with the sensations and was wondering weather I could switch my device with the up coming galaxy nexus as they are around the same tariff price or could I switch devices and just pay the adjusted tariff price ? If not then could you please either repair or replace my device?
Thank you for your time
Joshua Carr
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Firstly, in the UK warranties have no legal standing thankfully. Instead we have statutory rights which state items purchased should be fit for purpose, you should get a reasonable amount of use out of it and if a fault develops in the first 6 months it is up to the retailer to prove the issue was caused by the user or was pre-existing at purchase.
So, in relation to your phone, the retailer (not the manufacturer) has a legal responsibility to repair, replace or refund (less an amount for use) it, without affecting you unreasonably.
You have a legal resposibility to be reasonable and co-operative with them.
Your letter is good, you've pointed out that it is a common fault which shows you've done your research, and you're willing to pay the difference to get a different phone.
Of course they are within their rights to just replace your phone with another Sensation (does the Sensation XE suffer too?). I would gently protest if they do stating that you have no confidence that the issue will not re-occur.
If they stand fast, see if they will agree to give you the Nexus if your replacement sensation also develops dust. Get it in writting.
If the replacement does develop dust and they refuse to change models, then it's time to head down the CAB and talk to them about how to get trading standards involved. Also ask O2 for their complaints proceedure so you can lodge a formal complaint regarding the phone.
The more people who do this and demand replacements etc the more pressure the retailers will put on HTC to sort the issue out.
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Firstly, in the UK warranties have no legal standing thankfully. Instead we have statutory rights which state items purchased should be fit for purpose, you should get a reasonable amount of use out of it and if a fault develops in the first 6 months it is up to the retailer to prove the issue was caused by the user or was pre-existing at purchase.
So, in relation to your phone, the retailer (not the manufacturer) has a legal responsibility to repair, replace or refund (less an amount for use) it, without affecting you unreasonably.
You have a legal resposibility to be reasonable and co-operative with them.
Your letter is good, you've pointed out that it is a common fault which shows you've done your research, and you're willing to pay the difference to get a different phone.
Of course they are within their rights to just replace your phone with another Sensation (does the Sensation XE suffer too?). I would gently protest if they do stating that you have no confidence that the issue will not re-occur.
If they stand fast, see if they will agree to give you the Nexus if your replacement sensation also develops dust. Get it in writting.
If the replacement does develop dust and they refuse to change models, then it's time to head down the CAB and talk to them about how to get trading standards involved. Also ask O2 for their complaints proceedure so you can lodge a formal complaint regarding the phone.
The more people who do this and demand replacements etc the more pressure the retailers will put on HTC to sort the issue out.
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Excellent post -
Only thing I'd add is that often it's best along with taking the official complaints procedure approach to also send off some emails/letters to names you can find of important people within O2, you may just find that one of them picks up your case and if they do you'll definitely get this sorted
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Will bmw give you a Mercedes when you need an oil change? No. mod close this.
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lmao,worst analogy ever and the nerve to tell a mod to close this........too funny
As title suggests i have lost my volume buttons...HTC Said i can send it in for repair but they dont sell the part.....Anyone bought another case and willing to sell the spare volume buttons??
Come on guys I know some of you have bought a new case! unless you pulled the volume buttons off when doing the chrome frame mod you'll be fine
just purchase another back on ebay, or have htc send you a new one.
HTC Wont they will only offer repair service im not waiting 7 days without phone again! Don't really want to pay £30 when i only need volume buttons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441706
Just online chat with HTC and they will send you out a new case for free
I have seen that thread but after speaking to htc they want me to send it for repair,Online live chatting atm will see what happens
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Alex: Hi Sean, thank you for contacting HTC Support, I am looking in to your query now.
Sean Mcardle: Hello and thanks
Sean Mcardle: hello?
Alex: Apologies Sean but the process is to send the phone and the cover for repair. They have to be sent in to be checked that they are in warranty to be swapped.
Sean Mcardle: Well i dont really want that, All i want is the volume buttons on the case! Can i not give you all the serial numbers? Sureley thats whats checked anyway?
Sean Mcardle: That'd be ANOTHER 7 days without my phone
Alex: We used to send out replacement back covers however they have just changed the process. We have now to book the device and the cover in for repair. I can try and escalate the matter if you like to see if we can send you a replacement button.
Alex: Sure. I'll try that first.
Sean Mcardle: Thankyou
Alex: Can I please take the SN?
Sean Mcardle: SH**********
Alex: Great, thank you. I'll raise an escalation and I'll let you know if it's been approved.
Sean Mcardle: Thanskyou will i be notified by email?
Alex: It will be via email, yes
Alex: On [email protected]
Sean Mcardle: Thanks for your help Alex i look forward to my response.Have a good evening
Thats a bugger mate, hopefully they will just you one out. Mine came in a bout 3days
do you think they will send them to spain?
According to Alex in a phone call, Too many users took advantage of them sending out cases for small problems.Now they get them sent to repair to replace the broken part.Still waiting to hear from them
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According to Alex in a phone call, Too many users took advantage of them sending out cases for small problems.Now they get them sent to repair to replace the broken part.Still waiting to hear from them
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I literally jus got a new case sent to me from htc for tha same reason not even a week ago
I got a new case of Htc last week for the volume buttons falling off they also said no I would have to buy a new back, then they sent me a link to customer feedback i left them negative feedback on every question then on the extra comments part i told them they were **** and would not be buying any more Htc products ever again, then a few days later they phoned me about the feedback i explained to them i thought the solution i was offered of spending £40 to buy a new back was unacceptable and they said ok we'll send you a new one in a week or so got it in less complain and ye shall prevail.
Yea i've been a pain in the ass on the phone to them saying ive owned many many HTC Devices, Still have a G1,Magic,Hero and desire and probably wont go for another HTC device if this is the build quality i am to expect.Also telling them that if i can make a volut of a matchstick i should have no problem fitting an OEM one!
As foir getting one a week ago, Are you USA? I think the trading standards laws differ slightly but i presume if i get them enough stick and abuse on Twitter and over the phone they will just get fed up land send one lol
lost the volume buttons on my original case too. bought a oem sensation back cover for $20 on EBAY... perfect
Just go to your local wireless retailer and ask them to swap the back on a warranty return Sensation, that's what I did.
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No as easy as that in the UK.They are only obliged to replace defects within 30 days..
As it happens HTC must have got fed up with me moaning as i received my new case today
Hello, first of all I want to make it clear that my model is HTC One Mini (M4) and I'm posting here because I will get response faster, because m4 forums are pretty dead at the moment. My phone is three months old, so it roughly had like an year and nine months guarantee left. I had rooted my device and flashed CM11-nightly. Suddenly one morning the phone literally died in my hand with no reason at all. I have never dropped it, neither water damage it or something like that. I've tried everything to get it working again, with no luck. I've sent it to service through my carrier. They told me the phone will be sent to Germany (I guess HTC have service center there). I've waited almost a month and finally I got response. They told me that I've rooted and want me to pay 300$ for a new motherboard and I'm not gonna have any warranty left after paying. I've found few posts with almost identical problem, but people state that HTC fixed their devices for free. Here's one post for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52462075&postcount=13
For me this is ridiculous - it is like getting a new laptop, installing some linux distro on it, because you just don't like WIndows (HTC Sense for my example) and then get billed for faulty hardware. I really need your help folks, as this phone is on leasing and I am still paying it. I really can't afford these 300$ now and I have no guarantee that HTC's own hardware won't fault again and I will have to pay again. I really need an advice how to proceed. Should I try get my phone and try to send it to some other service center again and hoping for a miracle? Do I have any rights after hardware malfunction that I'm not responsible of, even after rooting? Yeah, I'm that desperate.
One thing I am sure of - I am never buying HTC's products again. After buying it had gaps of imperfections, had lights coming out of these gaps ( reference - http://i.imgur.com/4lXWWth.jpg ). They didn't want to swap the device. Now this.
1. Is there not an RUU you can use to back to stock?
2. Regardless of whether the forum is dead, you've still posted in the wrong place so it will get closed/moved eventually
It's HTC regarding problem, not HTC One in general. No I cannot get back to stock, because phone just can't boot as it's motherboard is dead, like I wrote in the OP.
How did the came to know u rooted ur phone!
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I don't know. I knew it was obvious it was a hardware failure when I've sent it and thought that they will just give me a new device.
Moved to HTC One Mini Q&A.
Devices have their own specific fora for a reason, you might get faster advice, but it may be wrong.
And again someone with cm11 flashed... i havent found a single person with this problem with a custom sense rom
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Could you ask your carrier what exactly caused it and why the motherboard had to be replaced?
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If your gonna be charged $300 you have the right to know why and in DETAIL! I'm currently dealing with HTC with another hardware issue. And i've found them to be pretty lazy checking there phones. I've sent my phone in twice now for a faulty usb port. The first time they didn't even look at it and sent it back saying there was nothing wrong with it ...right. The point is they most likely didn't even test it and decided to put the blame on you because they can... As much as I like my phone I don't think i'd go HTC again. You want to get on to your version of trading standards.
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@J0ro have a read of this mate... if it will help but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666925
@Braddison Thanks for info.
Just recieved an email from the HTC repair centre regarding my phone repair, for my loose USB port, and I'm pissed!!!
In the email HTC has said that the loose USB port isn't covered by the warranty and they want to charge me to replace the main board?! £130!!! which I guess is near $300? Absolute bull! How can HTC charge me for USB port becoming loose after only 3 months? The phone should last the 2 years for which I am contracted! The USB/charger port should last the wear of time, or at least my contract!
Soon as I wake tomorrow I ringing them to tell them exactly this, and if they don't listen I'm going straight to Trading Standards. I'm not gonna let them cheat me on this. .....£130! £130???? seriously?!
I think this will be my first and last HTC phone EVER!
So I contacted HTC to find out why my warranty doesn't cover a faulty charger port, and they have told me because I have unlocked my bootloader my warranty won't cover a faulty charger port... I know it states this on the HTCDev site before you unlock your bootloader, but the bootloader is software while the fault on my phone is clearly hardware, and proving the phone is of poor quality build, which is something that would of occurred whether I was rooted or not. This is just an excuse to get out of repairing my poorly built HTC One mini, and proves without a doubt that HTC don't care about its consumers or the quality of the product they are selling.
I may be on a contract but I still end up paying around £400 over time to own this phone. For a device that costs this much the build quality and service should be satisfactory..
I had a heated conversation with HTC trying to explain that the fact I had unlocked my bootloader had nothing to do with the fault on my phone, but they just kept arguing that because I had unlocked the bootloader I was liable for the cost of all repairs no matter what was wrong with my £400 phone! This is just an excuse to get out of the fact that they have sold me a faulty product, and pure dis-concern for its consumers. They seem very happy to put out a poorly built device to the public and take our money.
Well I haven't given up, I won't accept that I should take responsibility for something that would of happened whether or not I had unlocked my bootloader, for which HTC shouldn't be able to take the right away for me to install custom software, as the device is my property, and as such should be able to do so.
After the heated phone call to HTC they have now got me waiting for a callback from the "HTC Escalation Team". And while I wait for that I have been in contact with "Trading Standards/Citizens Advice" here in the UK. They have told me that the responsibility lies with the seller of the phone in my case "MobilePhonesDirect.com" under the "Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982". So I contacted them and they also have denied that this is their responsibility, so I argued that they have to supply a product that meets the specification and description of what they advertise which it clearly doesn't, and as such they need to under the law "Repair, Replace like for like or Refund". I have now been passed onto their "Escalation Team", and am awaiting their response........
If I don't get anywhere with HTC or the seller, I'll be contacting "Trading Standards" once again. but in the mean time HTC have my £400 phone, which I have already been without for 2 weeks. This is all very sad and think I'll be moving back to Samsung in the near future....
Also EU laws that protect users who unlock their bootloader or root their phone, do not apply in the United Kingdom, as their laws overrule these EU rules, even though we're in the EU..... So a nice little loop hole for an uncaring company like HTC.....
Oft! Htc are completley outta order mate,yeah you've rooted but that doesn't cause a hardware fault like that...ridiculous that they are not honoring there warranty! its evident that there build quality isn't that great, thats why so many users (myself included) are noticing cracks etc . Im sorry to hear your troubles and i am seriously questioning htc as my next device also.
I thought the EU law thing woulda helped ya...obviously not, sorry man
Hope you get a decent outcome...keep us posted
cheers
I just gave up. I've payed the money, because I can't stand staying without a smartphone anymore. Anyways, I'm never ever buying HTC or recommending it to anybody.
Small update. Called HTC again today after not receiving my callback. They had no record of a callback ...lies. Then they went on to tell me now that Im not covered under warranty because I have forced my usb port... Which I didn't. I argued how they could say that had done the damage myself and they could't answer. Instead they started quoting how I'm not covered because I unlocked the bootloader... Excuses excuses.
My phone seller has been back in touch telling me they can not find anything in their copy of the warranty to cancel my warranty based on software changes...
They asked me to get a copy of the repair report from HTC, but when I asked for this from HTC they refused to send the report until I paid for my phone to be returned or repaired ...I HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THESE DOCUMENTS!
When I argued my right to these documents I was told to I could take them to court! WTF !?
I asked for another callback to be arranged and a copy of their warranty that says why I won't be covered. He sent me a copy over email. BUT it doesn't say anything about not being covered for unlocking my bootloader. I then checked out htcdev.com again as directed by the man at HTC and again it doesn't say anything about voiding my entire warranty only that they won't cover things like your phone overheating from changing software, which has nothing to do with the charger port......
They want me to take them to court, so be it!
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J0ro said:
I just gave up. I've payed the money, because I can't stand staying without a smartphone anymore. Anyways, I'm never ever buying HTC or recommending it to anybody.
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Its killing me not having my phone. Currently stuck using my old phone with gingerbread... But I won't let them cheat me! going on 3 weeks without my phone...
I know I am in the right! They hope I will give up. Never! They have enough of my money!
I am sick of dealing with their call centres reading from scripts like idiotic robots and will be writing to their HQ here in the UK.
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Htc's customer service really sucks. I had to wait so long and you have to wait so long. I hate how they don't do anything about the one mini's plastic cracking. But I like sense more than anything else in android.
@RuffBuster In situations like these you need to remain calm, getting irate on the phone will do nothing to help resolve the situation. I've had a little personal experience with HTC Service Centers, HTC's warranty & my legal rights. Both with my Desire HD & One X.
The important things you need to remember are HTC are not liable. They did not sell you the goods, even HTC's own e-store is not managed by them. (http://shop.emea.htc.com/uk/p_htc_store_terms.aspx).
Your citing the wrong law, Your specific case would cite the "Sale of Goods Act 1979". As its the "good" that is concerned. - Source
Additionally Trading Standards will be unable to help, as HTC did not sell you the phone.
You need to pressure the seller that they are responsible. As its within 3 months of sale, they need to prove that the good was of satisfactory quality.
Your rights if an item is faulty
In the first six months from when you buy something, the onus is on the seller to prove it was of satisfactory quality when you received it.
If the seller simply says the problem must be due to something you've done, it's for them to prove that.
If something is not of satisfactory quality, you have a statutory right under the Sale of Goods Act, to a refund, have it replaced or repaired for free.
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I had a similar issue with Phones4U and my Desire HD (faulty vibrate motor), if you cite the right law, they cannot push you about and ignore your legal rights, in the end I got a replacement from Phones4U not HTC.
If you need any help with what to say and to whom. Feel free to PM me and I can try to help.
I understand HTC are not "liable", like if you buy a bad apple you don't go to the grower, you go to the person who sold it to you. But HTC still have to provide a decent level of customer service, which they aren't, like withholding my repair report until I hand over the money. My seller needs this document before they will look further into my case.
Also still haven't received my 2nd 48 hour callback almost 3 days later, after not receiving the first one...
My phone is just over 6 months old now, but this shouldn't matter as the warranty is for 24 months, and a charger port shouldn't break before the end of the warranty from only charging and a few goes with my usb otg cable.
I am currently in contact with trading standards, htc and my phone seller to try and resolve this. Though HTC are the ones causing all the trouble...
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So here's what's happened...
After phoning the HTC Repair Hotline a further 3 times asking for a callback each time, and not receiving one, I complained about the fact I had been waiting almost 3 weeks to hear back from them. I was finally given a callback from a HTC supervisor from the UK who apologized about the fact they hadn't called me back and that this was their fault, and because of this they offered to repair my phone free of charge, as a gesture of good will. But only because of the long waiting times I have suffered.
This is a WARNING to everyone on here. If you unlock your bootloader, and your phone develops a fault that requires the mainboard to be replaced, you WILL NOT be covered by your warranty! Unless you are very lucky and they don't notice you have. Your risk!
Personally I won't be rooting my phone anytime soon after this, which is a real shame because i'm a flashaholic. Just to make sure my phone is working as it should, with the quality issues I have seen and experienced...
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RuffBuster said:
So here's what's happened...
After phoning the HTC Repair Hotline a further 3 times asking for a callback each time, and not receiving one, I complained about the fact I had been waiting almost 3 weeks to hear back from them. I was finally given a callback from a HTC supervisor from the UK who apologized about the fact they hadn't called me back and that this was their fault, and because of this they offered to repair my phone free of charge, as a gesture of good will. But only because of the long waiting times I have suffered.
This is a WARNING to everyone on here. If you unlock your bootloader, and your phone develops a fault that requires the mainboard to be replaced, you WILL NOT be covered by your warranty! Unless you are very lucky and they don't notice you have. Your risk!
Personally I won't be rooting my phone anytime soon after this, which is a real shame because i'm a flashaholic. Just to make sure my phone is working as it should, with the quality issues I have seen and experienced...
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I'm glad you finally got it sorted.
So I got my phone back, I've payed for reapairs. 2 days later my volume down button stops to work, phone boots only in safe mode, nothing helps. I unlocked bootloader and rooted, but haven't switched to rom, using original one. I really don't know what to do now. I hate HTC so much, I'm gonna throw up. Any ideas?