I don't know if this has been asked, but my Skyrocket shows up as having 11.2 GB of space while mounted. My Infuse shows as 13 GB of space mounted. Both phones have 16GB internal, but what makes up the difference in available space? Is the partitioning different on the Skyrocket?
read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1349648
Thanks for the link. I knew about the allocated space for apps, and rom, but didn't know if it was a different size in the Skyrocket. I'm guessing more space was allocated to rom/system apps for the Skyrocket vs the Infuse.
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I just read a piece on Boy Genius Report in regards to the differences between the Captivate/Vibrant and the Epic. The blogger states the following
"Samsung’s TouchWiz UI doesn’t feel as mature as Sense. This seems blatantly obvious in the Captivate and Vibrant but is much less noticeable in the EPIC 4G. The device feels much faster than the Captivate or Vibrant and having social network integration, power controls, and a host of widgets actually becomes more useful instead of an annoyance."
He then proceeds to make presumptions about the ROM in the captivate/Vibrant being SD cards and the ROM inside the Epic being a much Faster NAND variant.
"We’re assuming the phone uses NAND Flash as the internal memory medium. On the Captivate if you navigate to Settings >SD Card and phones storage you see “External SD Card” and “Internal SD Card” listed. On the EPIC you see “External SD Card” and “Internal Phone storage.” We’ve reached out to Sprint for clarification and will update this article if they respond with a definitive answer."
I know the Epic isn't out yet, but does anyone have some better insight into this?
Original piece is here
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/08/18/your-epic-4g-questions-answered/
I believe that the Epic 4G does not have as much internal storage space as the captivate (or vibrant). Standard Galaxy S phones have 16 GB of internal storage, of which about 2GB is reserved for apps and the OS. I think the Galaxy S Pro (Epic 4G) has substantially less. I believe that either the engadget or gizmodo review listed the phone as having on 400MB available for app storage, suggesting less than 1GB of internal storage for OS and apps. To compensate, the Epic is sold with a 16GB micro-sd card.
I'm afraid I don't know anything about the read/write speeds for the internal storage on both devices, or if the two phones have different types of memory. But my captivate lists 3 different types of memory in it's "SD card and phone storage menu": SD, internal SD and internal phone storage. It sounds like the Epic just don't have any 'internal sd' storage capacity at all, so it only shows 'SD' and 'internal phone storage.'
hennethannun said:
I believe that the Epic 4G does not have as much internal storage space as the captivate (or vibrant). Standard Galaxy S phones have 16 GB of internal storage, of which about 2GB is reserved for apps and the OS. I think the Galaxy S Pro (Epic 4G) has substantially less. I believe that either the engadget or gizmodo review listed the phone as having on 400MB available for app storage, suggesting less than 1GB of internal storage for OS and apps. To compensate, the Epic is sold with a 16GB micro-sd card.
I'm afraid I don't know anything about the read/write speeds for the internal storage on both devices, or if the two phones have different types of memory. But my captivate lists 3 different types of memory in it's "SD card and phone storage menu": SD, internal SD and internal phone storage. It sounds like the Epic just don't have any 'internal sd' storage capacity at all, so it only shows 'SD' and 'internal phone storage.'
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You are correct about the internal storage on the Epic. Thanks for pointing out that there is indeed a third storage type on the captivate, I've never scrolled past the internal SD part of the menu.
This leads me to believe that BGR really has no clue of what theyre talking about.
I read somewhere that despite the 16gb storage in teh captive, there is only about 13gb left from the stock rom, is that correct?
a quick question, I thought if the phone comes with 16gb, you can use all of the 16 gb for apps and such, am I mistaken with this? I was under the impression that the whole 16gb is available for everything but you can also add more via SD.
PUTALE said:
I read somewhere that despite the 16gb storage in teh captive, there is only about 13gb left from the stock rom, is that correct?
a quick question, I thought if the phone comes with 16gb, you can use all of the 16 gb for apps and such, am I mistaken with this? I was under the impression that the whole 16gb is available for everything but you can also add more via SD.
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Even though the phone says it's 16gb, you only get to use about 13 gig of that. You can add up to a 32gb micro SD card to it though. It's like that with most if not all phones. iPhone is done in a similar way. The OS takes up space.
YEAH, I understand that the phone OS takes up space. But the whole 13GB that's free can be used for apps and such right? WinMo are a bit different I think the ROM is for OS and apps.
I saw a few android based phone has only 1GB internal memory (Sony Xperia) which is quite low. Does that mean that the maximum number of apps you can install is 1GB? Or that you can install apps on the SD
If only Samsung would realize that rfs fails and they should use Ext4 for data storage :\
BGR is full of clueless idiots. I would not rely on a second rate blog's assumptions.
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BGR is full of clueless idiots. I would not rely on a second rate blog's assumptions.
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Yes, I figured as much. I posted several comments that corrected their post, and implored them to do their homework prior to posting reviews. I come to find out later that the author deleted all of my posts. Talk about censorship.
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It sounds like the Epic just don't have any 'internal sd' storage capacity at all, so it only shows 'SD' and 'internal phone storage.'
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Perhaps this is why the Epic 4G boots up so quickly.
I rooted my inspire 4G phone, and installed CoreDroid_Desire_HD_GB_2.3.3_V5.4.
Today I noticed
in Quadrant => System Information, it shows:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
Since AT&T website says that this phone is supposed to have 4GB internal memory and 8GB miscroSD card. According to what it shows above, is it really the case? What happened to the 4GB internal memory? I don't know how it was before I rooted the phone. Can anyone help? Thanks!
people still ask that question by the way before root it came with one gig try formating
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Internal is 4gigs, but only 1 gig available.
where 3GB goes?
zstone123 said:
Memory
Total: 636132kB <== only 600MB internal memory !?
Free: 54728KB
Inactive 182592kB
In Setting=>SD and Phone Storage,
I see SD card of Total Space: 7.39GB
but, Internal storage available space is only 640MB
In Android Booster, it shows:
Memory available: 156/621MB
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You're mistaking ram for internal storage with these figures.
using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
cocchiararo said:
using root explorer:
cache: 290 mb
data: 1156,93 mb
system: 549,2 mb
Thats more than 1gb in use, but way less than 4gb.
where is the rest ? who knows
ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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ps: ram MIGHT be reported as less than 768 because the GPU takes some for itself
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And, depending on which rom you're using, ram compression.
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Gpu takes ram, radio some, plus a few others.
Quick answer since this has been gone over many times in this forum alone. The phone has 4 gigs of internal storage, its formatted single layer, which is faster and more stable, but cuts the size in half. Now were down to 2 gigs of storage, and the OS and some other partitions reside here so take away a little less than a gig, and your down to a little over 1 gig of usable storage, which is exactly what we have.
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did i miss any partition ?
either i did, or it has less than 2gb
and about the SLC thing, i had seen this before, but i had also fogoten XD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#The_Missing_2GB
(different phone, similar stuff)
Coming from the HTC Mytouch 4g i was under the impression i was upgrading from 1gb of storage(on the mt4g) to about 8gb of storage(g2x). I come to realize that in reality theres only about 1.5 gb of system storage and the other 5-6gb's acts like a secondary external sdcard...
I think that is soo stupid, i already have a 16gb class 6 sdcard and was needing the 8gb of internal just for apps/games(i have over 3+gb's of apps and games so don't even say why isn't 1.5gb of internal not enough)
Is there a mod or script that will allow the 5gb to be used as the system storage and the other 1.5 can be used as external sdcard storage? Or even a hack that would make my 16gb sdcard the main storage for my g2x?
d12unk13astard said:
Coming from the HTC Mytouch 4g i was under the impression i was upgrading from 1gb of storage(on the mt4g) to about 8gb of storage(g2x). I come to realize that in reality theres only about 1.5 gb of system storage and the other 5-6gb's acts like a secondary external sdcard...
I think that is soo stupid, i already have a 16gb class 6 sdcard and was needing the 8gb of internal just for apps/games(i have over 3+gb's of apps and games so don't even say why isn't 1.5gb of internal not enough)
Is there a mod or script that will allow the 5gb to be used as the system storage and the other 1.5 can be used as external sdcard storage? Or even a hack that would make my 16gb sdcard the main storage for my g2x?
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The stock ROM allows you to move many of your apps to the internal "sd" card. Just go into manage applications and click on SD card and move the ones you want to the sd card. This will free up space in the 1.5gb storage area. Almost all custom roms have an even more versatile APP2SD capability.
i found that the internal storage for files was only about 10gb... 16gb internal storage is what all the specs say. i guess some 6gigs are allocated for apps and such? 10gigs really isn't much with the 8MP camera and ability to shoot HD vid.
am i missing something here? i'd like to have more storage capacity for music and still have room to shoot a few pics or even a video
any help would be appreciated. thx!
I have 10 GB, too. But there are 2 GB more for apps ("Internal memory") and the rest is for the OS and that stuff I think
4 GB reserved for the system??
I had the One X, which is supposed to have 32 GB, but 29,xx GB were usable. So the One X uses less system space?
I don't know, it's just what I think
10.5gb for user
2.5gb for apps
2.gb for ROM..
thats according to TB so i assume thats right
Its almost 16gb.. But hey a ford mustang 550bhp only has 543bhp
cawith said:
4 GB reserved for the system??
I had the One X, which is supposed to have 32 GB, but 29,xx GB were usable. So the One X uses less system space?
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From hanging out in the HOX channel I think their partition setup is the same as the HOS. They have 32 GB and about 6 are claimed from the beginning for /app /data and other, smaller partitions. At least I recall people mentioning something about roughly 26 GB usable space.
Actually I find it ridiculous that HTC does not allow users to choose the partition size they need. And without S-OFF and full device access it is not possible to modify the partitions for devs... Aside from the fact that with ICS there is not even a NEED to define partitions as strictly as before, because of this new unified storage concept...
OK, so I knew this was limited to the internal 16GB, but now I'm reading that it is partitioned so that 4GB is system that I'll never see, 2GB is apps, and 10GB is media storage.
Is the 2GB the same as the internal storage on other Androids, and the 10GB same as an external SD card, so the 10GB has the same external SD limitations? I'm assuming that when an app has an option to store things on external SD I should take advantage of it to preserve the 2GB?
Finally, what are the paths for the different partitions (I'm on a non rooted stock TmoUS)?
Thanks!
THe main thing I'm wondering about is why the hell it's a 4gb system partition. That is HUGE!
htc sensation xe has the same 4 gb internal memory from which the user has only 1 gb for apps
so...only HTC knows the answer