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Has anyone else thought there should be just one forum for all the Galaxy S phones? considering they are almost identical it would make sense as long as each phone had a sub forum... Just a unified general forum would be great.
This has been posted before. This would make sense but although the phones are similar they are not the same. They have differences within them that make mods/roms/developing for them different. Since programs need to be modified for each phone it makes sense to split them up imho.
Yes. Especially with hacks. They all tend to affect each of the phones differently. Some work on the Captivate, some more and different ones work on Vibrant, and even more function with the stock i9000's.
Think they have it good the way they have it already.
I have a Vibrant and just came over to this forum to see if I could pick up any good information I haven't seen in the Vibrant forum.
But, I do believe we should keep the forums seperate.
tf442 said:
I have a Vibrant and just came over to this forum to see if I could pick up any good information I haven't seen in the Vibrant forum.
But, I do believe we should keep the forums seperate.
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but there should be one forum where we can cross examine all of our discoveries...IMO
One forum would be too confusing. I want captivate and captivate only information. I don't want to sift through other Galaxy S phones.
Citznfish said:
One forum would be too confusing. I want captivate and captivate only information. I don't want to sift through other Galaxy S phones.
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ok well I am sifting through the other ones right now and any useful info (to me) I will repost here.
So it seems with me finding and leaking out builds pertaining to the Vibrant 4G, as well as ODIN and a PIT file for the Vibrant 4G, there needs to be a section for this phone.
The phone will be released Feb 23rd.
Vibrant users are starting to get confused with the 4G stuff I have been posting in the 3G Dev section.
Can we go ahead and get a 4G section created?
And, if you guys need a mod for it, I'd be open to it.
i second that
i like the Vibrant 4G MODs and leaks, but it is starting to get confusing as some stuff might work for regular Vibrant and some stuff may not...there should definitely be another section for the Vibrant 4G
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So it seems with me finding and leaking out builds pertaining to the Vibrant 4G, as well as ODIN and a PIT file for the Vibrant 4G, there needs to be a section for this phone.
The phone will be released Feb 23rd.
Vibrant users are starting to get confused with the 4G stuff I have been posting in the 3G Dev section.
Can we go ahead and get a 4G section created?
And, if you guys need a mod for it, I'd be open to it.
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+1
This really needs to be done ASAP. I don't want to think about what the Vibrant forums will turn into if Vibrant plus/4G forums aren't created before the official launch.
yeah asap cause noobs flash 4g kernels and roms on 3g phones
Throwing my vote in here as well.
Also, it could be another development board within the Vibrant section, I don't see the need for a whole new set of 4+ boards for this variant as the accessories and apps will be the same, but certainly a separate development board as all the ROMs, modems, kernels will always be different from the existing Vibrant.
The phones are close enough that flashing a Vibrant ROM on the Galaxy 4G will tempbrick/brick it and vice-versa.
Will someone please think of the newbs!
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Throwing my vote in here as well.
Also, it could be another development board within the Vibrant section, I don't see the need for a whole new set of 4+ boards for this variant as the accessories and apps will be the same, but certainly a separate development board as all the ROMs, modems, kernels will always be different from the existing Vibrant.
The phones are close enough that flashing a Vibrant ROM on the Galaxy 4G will tempbrick/brick it and vice-versa.
Will someone please think of the newbs!
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You will also face the fact that you will not get any data if the flash is successful, thus, making you restore a backup
Anyone know accurate specs on this thing? So many rumors and mixed information. I even seen someone say it was going to come stock with honeycomb which i know is hogwash.
yeah, i'm all for a new section. I hadn't visited the forums in a while and was a bit confused by all this 4G talk.
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Anyone know accurate specs on this thing? So many rumors and mixed information. I even seen someone say it was going to come stock with honeycomb which i know is hogwash.
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2.2.1 1gb internal. 16gb external sd
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Definitely in favor of a separate thread as well. With all the people that don't know what they're doing downloading and attempting to flash the first file they see, it's bound to create even more trouble in the forum if they're allowed to remain together.
Please do, I like the idea of having them separate but together. They will share alot just not most software.
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Count my vote in. It's better to have seperate sections for both phones. They're both different in some ways anyway.
Admins, any update to this?
there are no official words yet
but we are considering options
my guess is that it might come down to a merger
but if lucky we might get a whole stand alone section
Thanks AllGamer.
I just don't want anyone to further complain. I am holding onto the rest of the 4G files, and any more I happen to come across until the section is created.
Admins/Mods,
Has there been any new updates to this request?
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Admins/Mods,
Has there been any new updates to this request?
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please... a new section for this device would be awesome. We need a Galaxy S 4G section soon... this phone drops in less than a week.
Also Krylon360 do you think we will see much development for this device?
mavictb said:
Also Krylon360 do you think we will see much development for this device?
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lets just say, I'm not saying a word.
krylon360 said:
lets just say, I'm not saying a word.
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lol say no more =)
With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..
Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..
I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..
yes please merge us!
I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?
I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.
if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.
yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?
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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.
i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...
when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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ksweat2292 said:
when can we expect a forum for the ns4g? clearly this forum is meant for the gsm nexus
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I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!
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I have no idea. It pisses me off. There is no reason to NOT have another forum... THE GSM RADIOS WILL BRICK THE NEXUS S 4G, THE ROMS DON'T WORK, THE KERNELS NEED MODIFICATION... IT IS A DIFFERENT DEVICE!!!!!!!!
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they have forums for phones that arent even released its ridiculous
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sorry wrong thread
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I agree. Too easy for a newb to brick their phone. Just left Tmo and my N1 for Sprint. GO TO HELL AT& T!
When the cdma Hero first came out we at least had a sub-form dedicated to it until the number of posts grew and its own form was justified.
Seeing as all roms will need to be modified to work with the NS4G, a new forum should be created. Mods need to quit dragging their feet on this.
-Ash-
I agree that the gsm and cdma needs their own forum sections. I won't demand anything from the mods because I used to be one and have an idea on what they in through. I agree that newbs and others might accidentally flash the wrong thing and hose their phone. I am very cautious about flashing anything with this phone because of some of the horror stories i've read. There are some things that I am interested in messing with but there's nothing in the description that says which ones it does and doesn't work with. OP maybe you could change the title of this thread to something to do with requesting a separate ns4g section to reduce the confusion and people messing with the wrong flashes.
+10!
That might catch the attention of a moderator more.
who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.
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who cares about the newbs.
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Nice.
10char...
To try and make things a little more organized I also made a Reference thread for the Nexus S 4G peeps here
zephiK said:
who cares about the newbs. every flash on the forum is the user's responsibility. not the OP.
should the OP include the ROMs that are compatiable? yes.
will it get dual support? possibly. your first is relatively new, give it sometime to adjust
i strongly disagree with a new forum. thats like saying the G2 and Desire Z should get different forums... they both share the same forum.
like i mentioned, you're just splitting the community for a minor change. ROMs will get NS4G support (dual support is even possible.. netarchys kernel works on ns4g), give it time.
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You were a newb once too there, big shooter. Take it easy.
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well said
Talking about splitting the whatever. I forgot where the thread was that had a link to a google developer discussion page. I remember netarchy was saying something about it too. Anyways, there's two separate "versions" of the nexus software. Crespo and crespo4g. It was mentioned that because of gsm and cdma the two can't be merged together (for now).
Im trying to figure out where in the system files the OS looks for GSM or CDMA. The roms for nexus s will boot. No service tho. Probably really complicated in Services.jar
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ok the g2 and the dz share the same everything, the radios can be flashed willy nilly..
Anyone wonder why there are devs on this device who are running their own custom roms, yet no one is PUBLICLY developing for it? They all have personal roms, and are unwilling to post them for us to use? Anyone know why?
Well there are no roms and development because we can't. Samsung didn't release the source code for the wifi chip so we can't mess around with stuff as much.
I don't know of anyone having personal roms or anything similar of the sort so where did you hear that? (As rude as that sounds I am genuinely curious)
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Well there are no roms and development because we can't. Samsung didn't release the source code for the wifi chip so we can't mess around with stuff as much.
I don't know of anyone having personal roms or anything similar of the sort so where did you hear that? (As rude as that sounds I am genuinely curious)
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That explains some of it... But I have seen some members sig lines say things like:
DEVICES I own:
Galaxy Tab +, rom= personal rom
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my own rom that Im not sharing due to xda community on that forum
I'm not trying to start a flame against any specific member (which is why Im not naming names), Im just curious as to why they dont actually share their work...
Well my take on that is since we can't mess with it they most likely made small changes and there is no point in releasing it or they made a rom and it is there own rom and it has been released thus the 'personal' title.
In terms of the no sharing I think I know who you are talking about and he/she has recently released a rom in the development section if you look.
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Well my take on that is since we can't mess with it they most likely made small changes and there is no point in releasing it or they made a rom and it is there own rom and it has been released thus the 'personal' title.
In terms of the no sharing I think I know who you are talking about and he/she has recently released a rom in the development section if you look.
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Lol I DO know and I saw their Rom.... Actually tried flashing it.... I'm glad that they finally released.... I love seeing development explode..? maybe that's just what I'm waiting for??
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I am running my own personal created ROM, but as suggested above, the changes are minimal and so releasing the ROM would really be pointless. I am testing tweaks and mods here and there, but I really haven't found something super beneficial worthy of being released to the community.
Once Samsung releases some wifi driver source (or ICS source), then development *should* pick up.
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