Bad support like the Captivate? - Samsung Infuse 4G

I was at the ATT store yesterday and I liked the HTC and the Infuse a lot. I know the Infuse has better specs over all. The issue that is holding me back is the horrable support and updates I have had on my last two Samsung smart phones.
I am wondering is the support for the Infuse any better. Or is Samsung still at their very slow pace? I am just not sure if I want to get a Samsung again because of what I have seen in the past.

I wouldn't put all the blame on Samsung, the carrier (AT&T in this case) has to approve and bloat the build, so that's why. The Infuse is supposed to be GB soon, but either way, thanks to LinuxBozo, we can run i9000 and captivate ROMs, plus he's working on CM7.
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I have not seen that Samsung is any slower than any other manufacturer.
We have the Infuse and Inspire...both are great but I choose to run the infuse. Both are rooted so I could really care less about updates ; )
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Neither have I. AT&T, however, is slower than any other carrier. Also, they DO seem to be more likely to delay a Samsung upgrade for whatever reason, but it's their fault not Sammy's.

What put a bad taste in my mouth wasn't the updates. With all the custom roms, who cares. For me it was samsung's refusal to acknowledge the gps issues and it was a back and forth game with them and att. But, everyone deserves a second chance so here I am.
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Well, this time they can blame STMicro. The CG2900 is clearly not that hot of a chipset. Better than whatever they used in the original GS series based on all accounts I've read, but still nothing compared to the classic SiRF Star III or the curent king, MTKv2. Heck, it doesn't even compare to the ST Cartesio, which is what I'd consider a "mediocre" chipset at best.
That said - all of the mobile GPS chipsets suck. AGPS is such a scam. It really means "we've crippled the **** out of our correlators such that to even match a decade-old Garmin eMap in performance, we need the cell network to assist." This is the case with every cell phone I've ever used (Qualcomm gpsOne, Samsung solutions) except for possibly whatever Samsung included in the Tab 10.1 - that seems to be a pretty solid GPS chipset.
The problem is that good, solid GPS chipsets cost money...

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Would be there no Galaxy S sequential for AT&T?

I mean, we would get Infuse 4G in this spring. However that is not Galaxy S 2, just overclocked Captivate with better screen. Rumors confirmed that new Galaxy S series will come with Orion processor that is duelcore hummingbird. I know android OS and apps are not optimized to duel core so it could be useless battery hog until it get honeycomb.
But most concerning point is Infuse 4G will come with froyo and take time forever to get gingerbread, it is really dealbeaker. Also Infuse 4G will have no international brother like i9000 which is our ROM source.
Should I end up contract to AT&T and move on other carrier?
Given Galaxy S2 is still under tight wrap waiting to be announced at MWC, it is too early to talk about whether or not AT&T will get it.
Officially, Galaxy S2 does not even exit. So how do you know AT&T won't get it.
So far, the only Android OS I saw that mentioned dual-core support is HoneyComb (3.0) which is only for tablet. Gingerbread does not support dual core. So, having a dual core phone right now is quite useless, the other half will just stay unused.
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
leetpriest said:
Go to t-mobile and quit samsuck completely. AT&T is terrible with Android support, and Samsuck.....well......they suck. That is unless you want your phone to be a statistic in the Samsuck fragmentation universe.
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T-mobile sucks in this area...so that really isn't a good alternative IMHO...and I have absolutely no idea what you are saying about the fragmentation..There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Mac11700 said:
There really isn't any carrier that doesn't suck...they all do...some just more than others in some areas...
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QF the muther******* T!
there are rumors of the nexus s coming for at&t.
engadget dot com/2011/01/27/nexus-s-coming-in-a-new-atandt-flavor/
and at&t itself has said that this year they'll be bringing a lot of top end android phones (not gimping them to make iphone look superior). a good side-effect of them losing iphone exclusivity.
i'd wait for feb14-17 for the mobile world conference to get a better idea of which phones are coming.
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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cdwhit said:
Personally, the Captivate is the last Samsung product I'll buy, and probably the last product I'll buy from A**. The way I was ripped off on this phone by the customer support will survive in my memory for AT LEAST the duration of this contract. I don't care WHAT Samsung comes up with.
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I'm with you on that. Samsuck is dead to me. As soon as the Atrix or Optimus 2X hits AT&T I'm ditching my Captivate immediately.
I would like to leave AT&T too, but where I live, they have the best 3G speeds. With HSDPA/HSUPA enabled I get 2Mb down/1.5 Mb up. Verizon here cant touch that. Everybody at work has VZW and they get about 700kb up and down.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Here, here!
Unless it's the Nexus S, don't buy a Samsung anything. You'll regret it.
A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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lol @ relying on a carrier to provide OS support. Do it yourself. XDA is here for a reason.
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Very Good Phone
im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
This will be my last Samsung as well. Thankfully Andromeda 1.0 makes it a usable phone to get me through this contract.
Yeah, the GPS leaves a lot to be desired. I've managed to finally get a ROM/Kernel/Modem combination that is stable, and can keep a GPS lock.
The only other Samsung phone I had prior to this was the WinMo Blackjack. Back then I didn't know enough about smartphones to be aware that it was horrible.
But, hey, I got my Captivate for free. Christmas present from my girlfriend, and she only paid $70 for the phone, screen protector, and 16 gig microSD card. So, I can't complain too much.
I am grateful to the Captivate, though. Without it, I wouldn't have learned about Android, and what true customization is all about.
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A nrw OS does not fix a broken phone. Even with the best OS, the bad phones turn themselves off and the GPS stays flakey. Thats not to mention that you're risking your warantee and the folks that bricked their phones upgrading. I have changed ROMS but for a top of the line smart phone, you shouldn't have to.
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Honestly not hating on you dude, but you should buy an IPhone. If you want something that works out of the box and you don't have to mess with that's the way to go. EVERY Android handset out there requires tweaking to some degree or another. And every other manufacturer has their own issues.
Samsung has a bit of a track record of not updating and now the GPS issues. But Motorola gets you a locked boot loader. LG currently doesn't have a real competitor in the US yet. HTC just took the EVO and rebadged it for Verizon and AT&T, not to mention the Desire HD for the rest of the world.
I'm not overly thrilled with the Captivate. It's a great phone, but the lack of support from Samsung (cmon, at&t may have it's faults but they have little to do with the lack of an update or support, they just sell phones, my opinion of course.) The biggest issue for me is GPS. I do have a standalone unit for trips and such but I really like having a phone that can get me from A to B easily. I don't carry my GPS everywhere, I do carry my phone.
Would I buy another Samsung Device?? Maybe. I'd certainly wait a few weeks after it was released to see what the main issues are. As far as software, I don't care. I flash ROM's more than I change my...... Well you get my point.
if att gets the galaxy 2? it will hit in the fall of course,they will milk the atrix ,infuse and the htc dealio for all they are worth. sad reaalllymost likely increase data charges for no reason than renaming their 3g network....sounds like the goverment at work here, we need bigger goverment to counteract this maddddnesss
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im far away from ATT so i dont know how its support works. For me the Captivate is the best phone ive ever had. I dont have any complains about it. And is even better with the great roms available here on XDA. iphone 4 lovers hate me when i show them all the things i can do... Sure there probably are better phones... but i dont see a reason to change mine for a while.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Gotta agree with you there. When I switched from my iPhone to the Cappy, I'll admit I went through some withdrawal basically because a comparable cydia/rock alternative wasn't readily available (I really missed the streaming video and content apps...the ones that worked anyway :/ ). The work the devs are doing within the XDA community breathed new life and excitement into my cappy. I think in time, the overall developement scene for Android will rival and (hopefully) surpass what the iPhone community has accomplished.
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Agreed. Before I got my Captivate, I was expecting the same Cydia/Installer combo to show up a couple minutes after I got it.
Honestly, Market serves as an undermined Cydia, but iPhone does have the better dev base by a landslide and that's why it's more popular, at least for devs and the like.
If Captivate had the dev base iPhone does, I wouldn't need anything else. Then again, I don't think anyone else would, either.

Someone please talk me out of returning g2x and waiting for the galaxy s ii.

I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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jsauce75 said:
I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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Touchwiz. Lol
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another one of of these threads?
jsauce75 said:
I like this phone, but people are saying the gs2 is the best phone they ever used. Ugh!
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Its Samsung... don't like so much.
Touch wiz
I believe no tetra games either.
Besides it being 1.2ghZ I don't see much difference... much rather keep the g2x. No one knows if cm7 would even be on it. Lol
Samoled looks artificially vibrant. It looks like neon colors just bursting on your eyes imo
The g2x also looks better I think...
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If you like this phone keep it. End of story.
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Leaving the over boosted size aside, IMO, the biggest issue of sgs2 is there is no guarantee that it will be on t-mobile. Plus you are very likely to be forced to wait 3-4 months to see in the US market...
They need to get gingerbread out fast so I can see if they fix any of the issues I have.
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Just buy whatever you like more? I'm for sure picking up a GS2 when they drop here, I couldn't care less the carrier etc. But then again I'll probably swoop a Sensation (Evo3d more likely...) too.
Ahhh...the joys of off contract purchasing.
I was in the same "dilema" because I wanted to wait for Samsung Galaxy S 2. Here was my final Pros for G2X and Cons for Samsung GS2 that lead me to go with G2X.
Pros for G2X:
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> Tegra Processor (means Tegra zone, means future potential for Playstation support)
> Stock Android (Means higher likelihood of updates, faster device, with no UI)
[I reasoned that 1.2GHz with more RAM but Touchwiz was probably equivalent to 1.0GHz with a little less RAM but stock android, not scientific at all btw, just conjecture and uninformed estimation]
> Easier to root/mod, in case I decided to fiddle around with it in the future
> Build quality is long lasting and much more professional/sleek/awesome
Cons for SGS2:
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> Samsung Updates are Non-Existent, GS1 just got Froyo about a few weeks ago, still no gingerbread
> New Touchwiz is nicer, but a nice piece of crap is still crap
> If I purchased I would immediately mod the phone to get stock/vanilla android (so in essence why go with it only to revert to stock)
> Build quality not as solid as G2X from what reviews say
> Final reason I decided to not wait... If history is any indication, T-mobile got the weakest iteration of the first Galaxy phone (no flash, missing features, etc)... I wouldn't be surprised if we get a T-mobile version that is missing some of the awesome features that we held out for.
The G2X is here now, is a great and fast phone and will be as powerful as the Galaxy S 2 out of the box, especially in everyday use. Aside from the defects that are being talked about, I think G2X is the better choice.
G2X
I would go with the G2x as well. Because it's stock android, t-mobile did a good job of staying out of the way here, plus touchwiz doesn't upgrade a user experience enough to be a game-changer. A lot of people believe it makes a phone worse. Beyond that, the G2x looks really nice, feels solid, and works really well, or at least should once the update comes. I say go with what you want, list your own pros and cons, watch some review videos, and make an informed decision based on your preferences, just like anyone else.
Yes, this is my first stock Android phone and I have to say I much prefer it. Although my only comparison is HTC Sense, which I didn't care for. I really liked what I saw of the GSII, but at some point you have to buy a phone instead of always waiting for the next big thing. Figured I'd buy the G2x now and I'm pretty okay with that.
because G2x is a google phone and will be updated a lot. samsung has a nice screen but that's about it. i've had 2 vibrants. nice but nothing compared to this phone. i wouldn't want to have to deal with samsungs bull**** again after it took them 8 months just to upgrade to froyo when froyo came out near the same time as the vibrant. plus you have to deal with people from india when you call support (like dell). nothing agains them but they ones across the ocean couldnt give 2 ****s about assisting us im my experience. kept getting the run around and reffered back to tmobile when tmobile is who said i needed to speak with them!
reasons? You really need reasons to not buy that hunk of plastic?
-Samsung
-Touchwiz
-No updates... EVER...
-horrible dev support
-did i mention Samsung?
Galaxy S 2 is a 4.3" phone. After your initial excitement, you'll need a phone that's practical for you.
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Im returning my g2x tomorrow and waiting for the galaxy s 2
umm, SGS II is like months... MONTHS away from a US release. Why return this phone now and wait 6 months for the SGSII when you can buy this one now, and sell it down the line when the SGSII comes out, by then the demand will be just a great with all the support that this phone will have recieved
The SGS2 looks like a really awesome phone and I may upgrade to that if it ever comes to T-Mobile. Having said that, I am happy with this phone. It does more than I need it to and already has great developer support. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say the SGS2 will be out late summer to early winter if you can wait that long. I would keep the G2X and wait to see if the SGS2 is worth upgrading to. Also, by the time the SGS2 comes out, something better might be unvieled.
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The SGS II see nice, but the G2x is a fine phone. I brought my last saturday and until today I don't have any issues with it. This phone is solid, have the right size, it's stock android and dual core. What more we can hope for this phone for me it's great. I read that few people have issues with the G2x that's ok can happen, but we can prejudiced the phone just for that. Just my 2 cents.
i got g2x but return it after 10 days of use, 1st unit suffered from rebooting problems and same for backlight bleeding. 2nd unit was a bit better but the backlight bleeding was still there and the terrible battery life was unacceptable.
i'm a big fan of stock android and owned htc g1, nexus one and htc g2 and loved them all and despised my brother's samsung galaxy s but after checking out the reviews and videos of sgs2 i got to admit its a better phone in terms of battery life and screen, the only downside is the touchwiz, hopefully we'll get cyanogenmod support but i strongly doubt it, anyway i can install LauncherPro and half of the problem is solved.
If not for anything else, I wouldn't return and wait because you have no idea when the SGS II is coming out on T-Mobile. Personally, I'm a big Samsung fan. When I had AT&T I had both Blackjacks, and the Captivate, so most likely I'll pick up the SGS II when it finally comes out for us, but it's silly to just return your G2x wait it out that long. While I'm not a huge fan of stock Android compared to TouchWiz, it does hold true that this phone (G2x) will most likely get the best support of the two for upgrades and what not. It really pissed me off that soon after I left AT&T, they finally released the Froyo upgrade...Samsung is terrible about making statements then going back on them. They said Froyo would come out in October, then December, then it finally came out like what a month or so ago? I don't know LG's history for updates or how quick T-Mobile gets stuff out as I just got on board with them a week ago, but based on what I've heard, you're far better off update and support wise with the G2x than the SGS II. Plus the G2x has the Tegra processor, which is just friggin' sweet! SGS II has Samsung's processor configuration, no Tegra to be found. GSMarena did a comparison of the 2 phones, and they both stood up to each other well, especially on the benchmarks. The only real advantage the SGS II had from what I read is the screen offers more vivid colors, but it's still the exact same resolution (800x480).

i hope its true.. galaxy s2 will you get it?

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/7577-samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date
Great news! I'm personally going to jump ship to this phone. Why not?? It's getting mad amounts of hype, which is never a bad thing. After hearing someone reviewing it saying it feels like the first 100% android phone they've ever used, I think that says something about it. I'm just scared that this phone is going to be about the same build quality of Yugo, as are all of Samsung's phones
If it has 4G hell yes. I wonder if we can just swap sim cards between 4G phones just fine
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i knew sprint would mutilate this beauty with a keyboard, they always do. glad i left that company. lets hope verizon gets this beast because it's my next phone.
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It's been known for months that we are getting a variant the only question is how different will it be. The Fascinate sucked...
I don't like Samsung but a 4g lte version would be hard to resist. I'll also have to pay full retail for it so I dunno.!
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Still no release date or info about lte our not so can't say if I want this. My wife likes samsung phones, but I've always felt they have had too much plastic in them.
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be happy with the phone you have, for tomorrow, there will always be something better.
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No way. After my adventure with the Captivate, I'll never have another Samsung phone.
Nice hardware. Unless it is pure Android with no Samsung software, open, and on anything but AT&T, it might not suck.
However, I'm on the TBolt, now, so no need to change.
There's a lot to like about the Galaxy S and S II phones. I was pretty happy with my Captivate, but hated AT&T's coverage. Sure the stock phones were terribly slow with the pre-installed carrier junk and RFS file system, but the developers took care of that. I believe they've had GB available for a while now since Samsung released it for the Galaxy S phones in Europe. Then you get the absurdly thin and light phones and the beautiful amoled screens.
Any Galaxy S II variants over here will likely be crudded up just as badly as the original Galaxy S phones but that's nothing the developers can't fix. You can always wait for the Galaxy S III as well.
I'm not wiling to pay full retail for any phone much less a Samsung. Seems like a sweet device internally but no thanks. I'm quite happy with the TBolt!
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I'm not wiling to pay full retail for any phone much less a Samsung. Seems like a sweet device internally but no thanks. I'm quite happy with the TBolt!
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I know a lot of people feel that way. I don't know I actually like what Samsung is doing lately. I'm also one of the few that really like that plastic feel on the phone, makes for a much lighter phone. To tell you the truth I wish I would have kept the droid charge instead of going back to the thunderbolt.
I guess everyone has their own taste.
Leo Laporte mentioned the G2S on This Week in Google podcast. He said it's a pretty sweet phone.
I am now one of the lucky Tbolt owners that now has a perfect phone. Not one issue. Even the battery life is at 16 hours with heavy use and screen at 75% all the time. Nothing will separate me from my Tbolt....unless they make a tbolt with a 4.5-5 inch screen as thin as the G2S. Thickness and weight are the only things I would change.
Crazy to think I'm to a point that a screen smaller than 4.3 is to small.

HTC Vivid or SGSII Skyrocket?

I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.
HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....
qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.
The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.
Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.
Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.
The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.
The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that
So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.

Galaxy S III Release In April, NOT!!

So for those who are waiting, keep on waiting.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/05/sorry-folks-samsung-says-no-galaxy-s-iii-release-in-april/
I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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or the htc one x looks pretty sweet and has lte
viny2cool said:
I shud just get Skyrocket man..Atleast I will enjoy LTE speed
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skyrocket call quality literally sucks balls. due to not having audience chip
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skyrocket call quality literally sucks balls. due to not having audience chip
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Literally?
It literally sucks balls? And you're complaining??
How much do i have to pay for a phone to give me some mouth lovin?
On a serious note, I've always used I9000 firmware on my captivate, and remember, cm7, miui, and all ics roms use I9000 reoriented kernels and modems, so they also don't have audience chip support. Call quality pretty much the same as I897 stuff for me, with the added bonus of hsupa.
Just waiting for it to drop cause I'm getting it, skipping s2. Hoping it drops by June though.
Been going without audience support for almost a year now, sure not as good a stock i897 quality but not bad either. I think I could live with the skyrockets non audience chip
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from what i gather is that they wil be releasin the S3 along the olympics , as a spl edition and since Samsung is the official sponsor , it will be big event...
Not so bad really. Well not for me anyway. I just see it as a little more time to play with ICS on the Cappy. If you consider how far the devs have been able to push this thing, it's impressive and not dead yet.
Hard to wait for new toys though.
S4! S4!
any phone with big AMOLED and S4 CPU would be nice.
For me it's Galaxy Note on expensive side and Pantech Burst on cheap side.
S3
Yes S3 looks sweet and I'm hearing July but lets hope earlier. Also the Skyrocket HD will be out soon, better then the original.
http://www.techzek.com/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-hd-coming-soon/
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Yes S3 looks sweet and I'm hearing July but lets hope earlier. Also the Skyrocket HD will be out soon, better then the original.
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I may just have to wait a little longer for this to drop then.
I can finally get a new phone now, but I'm waiting for something new and sweet to drop.
I'm going to guess that samsung won't name their next flagship device with an S or galaxy. Its probably going to run under HSPA+, since LTE is still in its early ages and the same 1800mah battery from sgs2. I hope they will include virtual onscreen buttons and a newer touchwiz optimized for virtual onscreen buttons as well.
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Those predictions are unfounded, and make no sense:
Galaxy S is a HUGE brand name, why would they abandon it?
And why not include lte, that's not the ONLY connection available when the phone is equipped with lte hardware, so to limit it would be a dumb business strategy.
My reason for the different brand name:
There are a lot of samsung devices with "galaxy" on them already. So transition to a new series would be perfect at this point. Besides, we don't want it to end up like evo and droid series. Too many of the same titles, and rather confusing.
As for LTE:
Only because it's still on premature stages outside of US. Samsung prioritizes Europe, Asia, and Australia (as you can see by who gets updates first) so I wouldn't be surprised if it's on HSPA+ OR! The US variants will have LTE with a snapdragon processor.
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My reason for the different brand name:
There are a lot of samsung devices with "galaxy" on them already. So transition to a new series would be perfect at this point. Besides, we don't want it to end up like evo and droid series. Too many of the same titles, and rather confusing.
As for LTE:
Only because it's still on premature stages outside of US. Samsung prioritizes Europe, Asia, and Australia (as you can see by who gets updates first) so I wouldn't be surprised if it's on HSPA+ OR! The US variants will have LTE with a snapdragon processor.
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Galaxy S series only have 2 phones which is Galaxy S and then Galaxy S2/Galaxy S2 LTE (or Skyrocket in US)...so your reasoning is wrong...
All the other devices only use galaxy..they don't use S with galaxy...every company wants to brand their flagship devices like Sony does with Xperia and LG does with optimus.
Also Droid/My Touch are carrier's names not Manufacturers name...Verizon likes to add droid on all their android phones..so does T Mobile
The reason why Europe, Asia, and Australia get updates first is that they don't have carrier's in between to deal with. In US (and Canada), Carriers controls the future updates along with the manufacturers....even if Samsung provides the updates, ATT needs to approve it too..That's why same series phones (same company) on different carriers gets updates at different times...
As the poster above you said, it would be stupid to release a phone without LTE, when every company around the world is trying to launch it..
Compared to motorola and htc, samsung is better at marketing execution despite of the update delays. And I think it's proper to end it with galaxy s 2 because were heading towards android 4.0-4 etc., which has some differences in its look and feel from froyo and gingerbread.
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Well not all. Many cities around the globe dont have LTE yet. And take sony for example, with xperia ion and xperia S. Both successors of arc, both same processor, but xperia s for europe is only hspa+ whereas ion is LTE. My guess is samsung will go on the safe side to launch with hspa+ in order to keep their devices somewhat 'together' (sorry if I didnt make sense lol). But I do understand why it would be a let down with no LTE
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atleast we know that US version of SG3 will have LTE, irrespective of the carrier, as all the major carriers in US already have LTE or working to get it..
^ There's a possibility samsung will head to that direction too. HSPA+ international, LTE US domestic. Lol with ours and other people's analysis, it looks like samsung is the "Apple" for Android kinda

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