Google to Buy Motorola Mobility - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

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I wonder how Samsung or HTC feel about this?

It's a shame that massive buy-out to allowing innovation.
Fun-fact: The only manufacturer with more patents is MS, to my understanding.
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As long as Android development remains open it should be fine - but if that becomes more and more Google-Motorola oriented, HTC and Samsung might have to find som other OS for their mobiles. But would Google want that ? Probably not.

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Samsung hires Steve Kondik aka Cyanogen

http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-steve-kondik-2011-8
Wow....very interesting. What will this mean for our phones? Only good things I hope!
google bought motorola mobility
samsung hired kondik
what's next-xda bought by apple
The planets and stars appear to be aligning properly.
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Leverage is what this hire was about in my opinion.
Android os after all is a linux based os. Open source. Samsung has a significant market share in the world of Android phones and tablets and will work to protect that share.
Just my thoughts...
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Facebook hired geohot, the guy who jailbroke the iphone and hacked playstation
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Given Samsungs previous support of Cyanogen this is probably good news. Since he announced that Cyanogen will remain a side project of his it means we won't see it by default on Samsung phones but it will mean that their phones will probably edge closer to something resembling Cyanogen and be great for those that never switch to community created roms.
With Google buying Motorola, Samsung knows they need to step up their game to compete against Googorola phones in the future, this will be part of that process.
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
AdamOutler said:
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
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No one could pay me enough to move back to Jersey.
I grew up there - never want to move back.
Speaking with my friend at Samsung he says they are super excited about the level of creatovity and out of the box thinking this will bring to the table. more end user stuff considered rather than plain point a to b successful operation
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Excited about this! The future of Samsung is looking good.
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AdamOutler said:
They asked me to apply for an Android Application programming job in New Jersey.... I don't think they can pay me enough.
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Me, me, me. I miss real Cheese Steaks, real Pizza, The Shore,The Pine Barrens, The Jersey Devil, Under the Boardwalk.
Where we say wooder not whater.
And you guys that watch that show, it's nothing like living in Jersey.
Jersey is where my heart is.
You got it: Leverage - with a capital "L"
Corvette Dave said:
Leverage is what this hire was about in my opinion.
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The past few days have been pretty exciting.
Whatever reasons are being announced, for Samsungs hiring of Mr. Cyanogen, intimidating Google has to be a big one. Especially being that it is only 11 months since Google tried to shut down Cyanogen (http://bit.ly/obp8sD).
Also, everyone is now talking about Amazon's killer Android tablet (http://bit.ly/mUS5O0). I think all rumors but Amazon's Kindle shows they can do tablets, Amazon doesn't have the "just for nerds" label that scares some Android and maybe even iPad users away, and if Amazon sells the tablet for $250, a $50 loss for each tablet they sell, Amazon will become one of the biggest Android players.
Google's purchase of Motorola Mobile has been classified by some as a patent battle but others (http://bit.ly/mUS5O0) think there is more to it.
And Apple and Nokia seem to be joining in the patent battle (http://bit.ly/n2q0Oe).
Leverage may just be your thoughts CD, but I think they're on target. Though I agree with your concept, I'm pretty certain I don't have a clue about the details. The big boys are playing hardball and all I can do is watch.

whats the future with android

do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?
Apple will probably use the remaining 84bn in cash to buy google.
Android is the future.
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Android is doing in the smartphone market what Microsoft did in the desktop market in the mid to late 90s. They offer a lower cost alternative where prices stay competition due to competition between OEMs. The fact that Apple is trying to sue Android OEMs like crazy shows that it is a threat to them.
Dead and gone in at most 2 years. I won't miss it.
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Apple is all over sueing android supporters with patents.
This aint even missing a thing. This shows that android is making its way too fast. biggest advantage of android is, it is open source
Could be dead with apple and MS taking over.
April fools?
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Same as today if not larger. Not making apple money, but still making a killing
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MikeyMike01 said:
Dead and gone in at most 2 years. I won't miss it.
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Considering how bad Ios is to me, that is a scary thought
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Android will go the route of the Linux system. Used by true techies and not understood by the rest.
Maybe
I don't think so, it will used by all, and only understood by experts...
Well I should hope this is the case..After all you are not comparing Apples to Apples (pun intended).
Apple is a hardware company that sells hardware products and digital services, predominantly software and media, whereas Android itself is free. it costs nothing, so it cant make a profit.
If you look beyond the "gee whiz" numbers of their growth you will see that Apple leads in two markets, that of tablets and download content however market share in download content, smartphones and tablets is falling...So i suspect that the only folks really worried about the state of apple is apple themselves... their continued growth (at current rates) is frankly not sustainable.
Note: to compare Apple Vs apples (its full and complete competition) you would need to sum the numbers of the following business:
1. Microsoft & all PC manufacturers
2. All PC software sales
3. Android portion of all mobile manufacturers
4. All android tablet manufacturers
5. Google
6. Amazon market, and all Amazon download media
7. Napster and all other media download sites.
So, if you can be bothered to do that, you may see that Apple < competition.
kilus said:
do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?
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kilus said:
do you all think that android gonna have good future with apple making more profits than android?
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Ok ....... let me ask you a few questions which should hopefully put things into the kind of perspective that would have avoided this thread altogether.
A: Is there a future in the airplane industry for Airbus since Boeing keep getting all the big contracts ??
B: Is there a future in the oil industry for Saudi Arabia since Russia produces more oil than they do ??
C: Is there a future in Gold mining for South Africa since China mines more gold than they do now (allegedly with some assistance from slave/indentured labour).
Z: Is there a future in the God business for the Catholic church since Islam is growing much faster and Muslims seem more devout. (For the humour challenged am joking)
etc, etc, etc ........ i assume you get the idea, its called competition and the world is full of it in every industry you care to mention and lots you wouldn't.
done now ???
In these 2 years - if I'm wrong correct me because I'm quite new in android OS - android has become quite popular and because of the open source it might be avocative for developers as in present as in future.
And that Apple would buy android I can not imagine.
Android has been outselling iOS for a while now.
But iOS is beating Android with way more freezing and crashing. So I guess iOS wins in one aspect, more crashes!
Android will win.
Long live open source.
Check this Android vs iOS video series to be debrainwashed!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484
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yay more Apple attacking HTC

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/26/htc-apple-mistatements/
They want another import ban.
*facepalm*
This is just ridiculous. Apple can't just be a normal corporation that tries to make the best product?
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Google should go after Apple and seek an import ban for the notifications pull down that they blatantly ripped off of Android. That would put an end to this nonsense real quick.
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Android is open source and publishes their code. (which I'm thankful for)
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Oh yeah, let's bash HTC for googles own application.
This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732
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This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732
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I don't think apple would do that. IMO if apple did companies like ASUS Sony and Samsung would be able to say but in ours is the most up to date state of the art tech. Which would cause apple to admit they're between a year and two years behind the competition. Which could result in a price fixing lawsuit. Just my guess and two cents. But my order for the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 was cancelled because of the new ITC ban against it. But it freed me to order the nexus tablet
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Samsung will destroy apple in lawsuit war at the end. trust me..
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.
k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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They buy them because you pretty much take it out of the box, turn it on, and use it. There's really no remotely complex setup stuff required. I mean, give an average user an iPhone and they will be up and running with most thing up and running within a few minutes. Android is a bit more complicated for the average user (and I don't think too many people will disagree with me, the emphasis was on AVERAGE, ie not most of us here on these forums).
Different people want different things out of their devices, that's just how it goes.
Apple's legal team, however, screw them.
k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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Gonna have to disagree with overpriced. The resale value of their products is worth the extra upfront premium alone, not to mention their hardware is always top quality. Specs aren't everything.
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You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.
gunnyman said:
You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.
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I feel the same way about my MBP. Best investment I ever made.
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thank god the man who invented the wheel didnt have a legal team like this. His great great great great......grand kids would still be making us use hexagon wheels cars they didn't manufacture. Even then, if the corners were to soft, they would still sue
gunnyman said:
What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.
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Yeah, that bothers me as well. I don't understand why Samsung et al aren't playing hardball.
My only hope is that Apple goes back down the tubes. When Steve initially retired, they went down, and didn't rise until he returned. Unfortunately, I think they're too big and broad to fail like they did before.
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k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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+1 to that

So...is Apple going to ever stop suing?

Wth is wrong with apple? I feel like they are literally trying to stop the sale of Android phones with their stupid patents...do you guys think they will win the whole Galaxy Nexus case?
CC268 said:
Wth is wrong with apple? I feel like they are literally trying to stop the sale of Android phones with their stupid patents...do you guys think they will win the whole Galaxy Nexus case?
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They have won already. Google announced they are altering android to ensure it satisfies apples lawyers.
One thing being changed is searching. Voice search will no longer return local results because apples patent means only siri is allowed to offer local knowledge.
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mistermentality said:
They have won already. Google announced they are altering android to ensure it satisfies apples lawyers.
One thing being changed is searching. Voice search will no longer return local results because apples patent means only siri is allowed to offer local knowledge.
Dave
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Dam...apple will probably monopolize this business anyways...there going to make android much less desirable
What the f*** ?
apple:thumbdown:
Can't innovate, litigate
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mistermentality said:
They have won already. Google announced they are altering android to ensure it satisfies apples lawyers.
One thing being changed is searching. Voice search will no longer return local results because apples patent means only siri is allowed to offer local knowledge.
Dave
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They won against samsung but lost against htc so there is nothing to worry
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I feel like if the patent system doesn't make serious changes on the Software side this is going to set a precedent for further "patent-trolls".
The only thing apple is good at is suing.
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They won against samsung but lost against htc so there is nothing to worry
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Its the nexus win that has forced google to change android so the htc case is not a factor now that google are changing the os apple have their first android change rather than manufacturer specific as htc win was when apple won an injunction before.
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I hope apple doesn't ruin android :crying:
The patent is a joke, like most.
I suggest Apple becomes the mascot for US Corporate Fascism.
Guess using your voice or any other human bodily input methods shall be patented next... Perhaps Apple travelled back in time and altered everyone's DNA? (Yes the iPhone 12 does time travel) They might have a case to settle with everyone then! We shall have to follow the Apple iBible in life then.
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Apple is sh*t seriously they gonna patent the **** out of every little thing they make part of ios ? Such as fonts ? I wouldn't be surprised at all
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Ha ha
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18709232
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Soon apple will monopolize phones and laptops and take over the world and our souls and patent them!
Apple is garbage, and that judge is an Apple fanatic
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angramenyu said:
Apple is garbage, and that judge is an Apple fanatic
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He/she obviously an apple fanboy lol i bet she does own one of those I**** that's why he/she went against google but hey despite that android gonna take the lead no doubt
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While I think it's stupid, it's not the judges fault. Their job is to make the decision based on whether the patent was infringed or not, even if they think the patent was stupid (haven't heard from the judge so I can't say what their personal beliefs on the matter are) if it was infringed they have to rule in favor of Apple if they believe there to be infringement.
I do not know why everyone is riding the judge for her decision. It is her job to interpret the law and use other cases as guidelines. Apple is winning in the US, but mostly losing in the UK.
But, yes, Apple is losing marketshare to Android. The more mature thumb optimized touchscreen smartphones become, the more options OEMs must give consumers. That Apple one phone a year model will cease to work magic and they will find themselves in a position they do not want to be in - no more of that high margin, one device fits all once a year, planned obsolecense all wrapped around a marketing hype machine.
Well when your backs up against the wall, thats the time to become creative.
Apple is only taking a little chip with the voice search on ics but google will fix it for now until they get that idea (like pull down notifications, Genius!!) and make apple and its customers jealous. Steve Jobs (rest in peace, great man) is gone and apple is stuck re releasing the same crap just fixed up. Ex. The New Ipad, better screen, faster. and Iphone 4s, faster, with some dumb virtual assistant. Only people like Samuel L Jackson use Siri like the commercial shows but all of us get bored within hours. Apple is staring at a blank page and the essay is due tomorrow. There really isn't any must have, new technology(like front facing camera or dual core processors, and 3d screen) out right now that would get people buying them instead of android. Android stepped up, with play and jellybean and there is going to be much more to come. The Gnex will be back in a week, badder and better than ever.
If i was Google Ceo and some kid like Apple wants a fight, I get Jellybean on every new device and most popular old ones, then pull youtube off iphones. but then again im not the Ceo.
f*** apple.... seriously, just f*** apple....
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Why doesn't Google buy a cell phone company?

Ex. Verizon, AT&T...
only thing I can possibly think of is for some reason they'd get into legal trouble because they create the os that most phones in the US run on.
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TheNetwork said:
Ex. Verizon, AT&T...
only thing I can possibly think of is for some reason they'd get into legal trouble because they create the os that most phones in the US run on.
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Oh and sorry if this isn't the place. I couldn't find a more fitting forum.
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currently they have deal with so many mobile phone companies ........ so that they can reach larch users.
TheNetwork said:
Ex. Verizon, AT&T...
only thing I can possibly think of is for some reason they'd get into legal trouble because they create the os that most phones in the US run on.
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i think it would fall into the place of what happened when goggle bought Motorola, Everyone (Samsung HTC etc..) thought since they were bought by Google that they were the "Favorite" and Samsung started to make android less android, (good example would be the Samsung galaxy notePRO 12.1) in response Google knew they screwed up and sold Motorola to Lenovo. i think this sorta thing would happen and instead of manufacturing android phones, others would try to get like Bada OS and Firefox OS phones.
Personally, I think Google did not screw up when it bought Motorola. What they are really after is Motorola's "Project Ara," that involves the development of Modular Smartphones, which is seen by many as the future of smartphones. All other assets of Motorola did not interest Google and they sold it to Lenovo, but retained only Project Ara.
av2588 said:
Personally, I think Google did not screw up when it bought Motorola. What they are really after is Motorola's "Project Ara," that involves the development of Modular Smartphones, which is seen by many as the future of smartphones. All other assets of Motorola did not interest Google and they sold it to Lenovo, but retained only Project Ara.
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I don't think they screwed up either, I think they screwed up with selling Motorola though. Honestly Motorola phones where pretty ugly and Google changed them quite a bit. The moto g was heir most successful/most sold phone they have ever had I wish they could have played around with them some more before selling them to lenovo Motorola was having a bad time and Google just gave them a boost I guess, So nice of them.
av2588 said:
Personally, I think Google did not screw up when it bought Motorola. What they are really after is Motorola's "Project Ara," that involves the development of Modular Smartphones, which is seen by many as the future of smartphones. All other assets of Motorola did not interest Google and they sold it to Lenovo, but retained only Project Ara.
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Oh right modular smartphones... The millisecond those are available I'm dumping whatever phone I have at the time and getting one.
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