After doing S-OFF is it possible to restore the original bootloader?
Please delete I just saw this question in another thread.
Yes it is, you just flash a stock ruu for your region. Please search before you post.
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Yes it is, you just flash a stock ruu for your region. Please search before you post.
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Again I made a mistake which I stated. In any case if you are going to criticize me at least put an answer which is correct. Based on the searches I have done on the forum your answer is incorrect. With whatever method the alpha crew is doing it doesn't appear possible to go back to S-ON state by flashing an original RUU.
Maybe the flag is set in some part of flash where RUU flasher doesn't touch. In that case some needs to write a tool to do that. I don't where this flag is so I can't do it.
I also have flashed back to stock ROM and found that S-OFF stays. We need a way to turn S-ON back on. And yea, stop telling people to search. What an Ahole thing to say. The search feature here SUCKS!
Matt
Flash eng hboot than a ruu of your region. Think it gives you ship s odf, but ship s off is still factory since some phones where shipped with it.
Edit: fastboot set own setsecureflag 3 in quotations. Idk if it works, but it does on EVO 3d and they both share similar hardware.
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Flash eng hboot than a ruu of your region. Think it gives you ship s odf, but ship s off is still factory since some phones where shipped with it.
Edit: fastboot set own setsecureflag. Idle if it works, but it does on EVO 3d and they both share similar hardware.
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Only do this on ship hboot not eng hboot
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So yeah,I accidentally deleted my backup of my stock ROM, from what I know and have been reading I cant pull a stock ROM from another sensation and put it on mine. From my research I figure I'm screwed but if anyone knows of anyway to revert or download a stock ROM it would be much appreciated. Thx
Can anyone help a brotha out?
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Have you gone into recovery mode, pull the battery out, put it back in and hold the volume down button along with the power button. Then factory reset the phone I believe?
Yea, that's the first thing I did after backing everything up. Still kept the same custom ROM and kernal. I guess I could just break it and get a new one lol
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Without knowing the ROM you were on it's impossible to know which yours was. Might be able to suggest something if you haven't changed your cid yet tho
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
These are all sensations stock roms just rind yours
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So those ROMs dont work for some reason, its an application that can't connect to my phone, if there's a stock ROM that I can flash that would be a lot better. Also idk how to check my CID or I would let you know, thanks for all the help tho guys. If anyone knows of anything else that could work please let me know
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To check CID, make sure you have adb installed and reboot the phone into FASTBOOT. Then type:
fastboot getvar cid
With your phone connected to your PC and it'll tell you your CID
Once you have it post it up and we'll see what we can do from there
hi guys, i´m afraid that i have same problem as heist206 :/ but i´m also afraid, that i had my cid rewrited to 11111111...there´s not any help for me, is it?all i know about my previous ROM is, that i had HBOOT 1.18.0000
It'll be any of the 1.45 RUUs then but again, couldn't tell you which
Seems no one does any research before flashing their phones
if you are on the 1.8 hboot, s-off, and it will change it back to 1.7 hboot then you can re write the cid and flash the stock rom after getting the correct one.. if all else fails just use the a cid from the list with no branding specific in the file name
Unfortunately I didn´t expected, that I´ll need it...i foung only one 1.45 for Europe, is it possible, that it will be this one? a need it becouse i have to complain my phone...it is truning off without any reason...
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Hey,
I rooted my phone and simply forgot to back it up. -I know, stupid of me, was my first time rooting-
I am trying to unroot it, but I'm simply not succeeding.
I am from Holland, and I got a Vodafone HTC Sensation.
My CID is VODAPE17
My radio-10.14.9035.01_M
HBOOT-1.17.1111
I can't seem to find a RUU for my device....
I have tried nearly all the Europe RUU's, but none work.
I could really use some help, if someone is able to give it.
Freek
my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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Hboot is on a separate partition than rom. When you go from stock to rooted your hboot might change, depending on the root method.
Flashing a rom won't change it. Reverting to stock with an ruu will.
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my h-boot version was 18 then when i flashed android revolution rom it went to a 17. (not exact numbers but thats not really the point) I was just wondering what the H-boot version really has to do with my device itself. Or would i need to be able to switch it back to original state at some point
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You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
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You're good to go, that's how's it suppose to be. Make sure you have supercid, and also if you have time search in devolpement section for Bin4ry and flash Eng Hboot to be safe.
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Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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rddocke said:
Thanks for4 the replies guys i havent messed with CID yet or Eng. currently running ARHD 3.6.0 i havent had any troubles rooting or flashing and speeds seem to be doing well.. i am still working on maximizing my battery life. its good i get about 15 hours when im not on wifi.
but how will Eng and CID help out?
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Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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epsix said:
Those are just gonna help you in the long run without bricking your phone if you do alot of flashing. Nothing to do with battery. Lol
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Hmm I'll look into it some more got any referrals for my research?
And ya I was just making a comment on my battery life I didn't think any of this would have an effect on battery life. Just pointing out successes. Fortunately haven't faced too difficult a situation with the sensation.
Now the galaxy s 2 on group via mini kies, bow that was a pain. Again thanks
Phateless said:
Engineering hboot allows you to flash recovery and radio at a more basic level and can help you recover from a ****ed up state in some cases. Good idea to have.
Super CID just allows you to flash an ruu from another carrier and is completely unnecessary if you're flashing custom roms.
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I mean how much more basic could it get then flashing under CWM? If there's a simpler way I'm all for it lol.
But seriously ill look into it some more I just figured dont fix what ain't broken you know?
Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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Flashing the radio/recovery isn't done via CWM - it's done using fastboot commands
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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I was speaking of simplicity in general I'm just curiouse to what this more basic level would be. I did just fine with the flashing of o_10.58.9035.00U_10.15.9035.02_2 without adb
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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It provides you some extra options if something goes wrong.
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Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
rddocke said:
Ok cool thanks boss.
Is there anything to look for in a radio or zip before flashing that would tip me off to potential brickage or do you have to kinda just experience it?
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Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Make SURE it's the right radio for your device and check md5sum. Do a google search, md5sum is easy.
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Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
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Gotcha thanks. Also I'm sure there is a difference between eng s-off and the s-off using revolutionary.io since your here and we talkin about it, you have a definition for me in basic terms? Perhaps a link to someplace? I been looking in google but they start talking about ship s-off and radio s-off, I'm not sure what s-off I've done. I just knew it was necessary before perm rooting.
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Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Phateless said:
Revolutionary does radio s-off which means the phone itself has security turned off and whatever hboot you have will display that. Eng s-off means the hboot is allowing the security bypass. Ship s-off just means it came that way from factory.
My understanding is somewhat rudimentary so I would appreciate one of the elders stepping in to clarify if I've missed anything.
We need s-off to give hboot permission to flash a custom recovery. Then we use the custom recovery because it permits us to make changes to the firmware, like the update that gave us root access.
The hierarchy goes radio, hboot, recovery, rom. Each is on a separate partition.
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Wow ok that was very helpful. Looks like this is turning into quite a decent thread. I appreciate you for your knowledge spread.
I would like to see (as you put it) one of the elders step in here with their feedback as well.
I'm gonna go ahead and move to the next step (eng) and see where that will take me in my adventures of the sensation.
I am also interested to hear from other members about their achievements with their devices as far as CPU speeds and of the many tricks that can performed by the sensation. I find myself searching for that info all day.
I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
webmanya said:
When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
so i unlocked my device via HTCDev.com thinking since its htc device and all they said was i had to unlock bootloader to flash custon OS's i already knew about S-OFF but being the site didn't talk about it(why would it) i went and flash virtouous ROM and got stuck at the HTC screen. i wasnt thinking so i never backed up the stock HTC Rom!!
now i tried 2 of those RUU's in the shipped rom thread the tmous ones with 29 and 50 both saying wrong version.
my question here is there anyway to get at least one RUU to work or get s-off from HBOOT?
my reason of doing this after going back to completely stock is i cant wait any longer for HTC/Tmobile to get us ICS so i tried the custom way and failed lol
I am sure unless you super SID you will have to find ROMs specific for the country the phone came from.
Eg my phone was from Asia region and I could not flash Euro ROMs
ok from the Shipped rom thread in the dev section for the sensation i was trying to go back to stock to gain s-off but the tmous(USA) which is where i am from said wrong version.
futty said:
ok from the Shipped rom thread in the dev section for the sensation i was trying to go back to stock to gain s-off but the tmous(USA) which is where i am from said wrong version.
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What h boot version do you have?
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Hboot: 1.18.0000
Check your CID using fastboot getvar cid to see if these still match the ROM you were trying to flash.
says for cid is t-mob010
i guess out of the 2 stock ruu"s from the post doesnt match that?
edit: ok from what i learned in another post i opened up the rom.zip file and looked at android-info.txt both the cid and mid matched my phones from the RUU file "RUU_Pyramid_TMOUS_1.50.531.1_Radio_10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_223976_signed" buuuuttttt it tried to update it but fails saying i need to correct version :\
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Hboot: 1.18.0000
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Are you on t mous us?
Also you can s off and super cid and flash any ruu.
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Yes i am. the 2 Ruu's i am using seem to have matching info to my phone when i went to get the rom.zip it uses to send to my phone and looked in the android-info.txt but tell me to get the correct RUU and try again. i got the from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559 under the tmous RUU one with 29 and the other 50.
so i am just stuck at the white screen with the word HTC. if i could get s-off and SuperCID through fastboot that would be awesome but googling it shows up that i cant s-off via fastboot ughhh
still no luck cant seem to flash anything without s-off or supercid
so looks like i am jumping the boat going to sprint this thursday and geting the iphone 4s...byebye android
If you can get into fastboot you should be able to flash RUU from there. Just download the RUU.exe and run it as administrator. Follow the prompts in the exe program while your phone is in fastboot mode.
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futty said:
still no luck cant seem to flash anything without s-off or supercid
so looks like i am jumping the boat going to sprint this thursday and geting the iphone 4s...byebye android
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Maybe iCrap is better for you. When you use Android phones and want to complete unlock them for flashing customroms aso you shoud realy learn to read before you do something. I hate it when people are not able to read about the stuff they want to do and when something goes wrong they blaim Android for it.
To get s-off, super CID and root on a HTC Android device is realy easy if you read the how-to threads and normaly takes about 15 minutes.
Have fun with your iCrap 4S and please don't try to jailbreak it before you read some stuff.
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first off let me say i have rooted and flashed roms on my sensation before just fine. i was unlocking via htcdev.com and figured their method didnt require s-off since it didnt say anything about it. it just talked about unlocking it to put customs os's on it. 2nd i always had a love hate thing for IOS since i had the 3G and ipod touch.
far as using the RUU'ss it tells me i need the correct Ruu version or something like that. maybe because i didnt run as admin but i have all that stuff turned off due to the theme i used for windows 7 required it off.
If I were you I would Super CID your device. That is what I had to do. A great guide that I used was http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
i tried and i get this error
vreg_set: request is duplicated id 14
pyramid_init_sd, SD card power on ok
sdcc_init_memory_device done
[FAT_ERROR] fat_open_file: can not find SMART_IO.CRD
[JAVACARD_ERR] SMART_IO.CRD cann't find
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and my cid remains the same as t-mb010
how can i fix it? would love to get mt device back up and running
You can recover this. Firstly read this guide, regarding downgrading hboot and getting s-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23222794
The problems are due to HTC.dev not unlocking all parts of the boot loader - you can't flash radio.img or boot.img so nothing is working.
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stringer7 said:
You can recover this. Firstly read this guide, regarding downgrading hboot and getting s-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23222794
The problems are due to HTC.dev not unlocking all parts of the boot loader - you can't flash radio.img or boot.img so nothing is working.
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thanks for your help. i went to your link and i flashed a stock tmobile rom as suggested and before i could take out boot.img and send it over fastboot my sensation booted to the home screen. i went ahead and s-off'd and SuperCID. just need to create a backup before i screw up again.
again thanks for the help everyone.
Hi
Does anybody know where i can find One S (S4) odex stock roms for tmobile. Basically i can't get ota updates and i think my problem is that my current stock rom is deodex.
none of the develops in the One S community wants to make it.. dont know why....
the closest u get is the nandroid in the dev section.. thats what im running now...
Why not run a RUU from the Shipped ROMs thread in development section
I'd like it too actually. I tried flashing stock recovery and relocking my bootloader, but out still said tampered and still couldn't flash an ruu... I'm hoping getting all stock could help with that.
There are no RUU's for tmobile uk sadly, so i need to super cid my phone to get the international version. Also i dont know how to super cid
I found another version of the RUU for TMOUS so I'll try that in the near future and see what happens.
Because the cramp just won't go away!
Does anybody have a stock nandroid for tmobile UK?
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If you read the posts it says there isn't one. Just to verify I looked and I didn't see one either.
Also, after going into fastboot and flashing stock recovery I did
Code:
fastboot OEM lock
My phone rebooted I did it again and flashed the latest RUU for my phone which was TMOUS 1.84 or something like that.
That seemed to work. Now running android 4.0.4.
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mylegiscramped said:
If you read the posts it says there isn't one. Just to verify I looked and I didn't see one either.
Also, after going into fastboot and flashing stock recovery I did
Code:
fastboot OEM lock
My phone rebooted I did it again and flashed the latest RUU for my phone which was TMOUS 1.84 or something like that.
That seemed to work. Now running android 4.0.4.
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I'm just curious are you from UK or USA. I supercid my phone yesterday and tried flashing three different ruu's but none of them worked. But then again my bootloader is unlocked so I'm not sure whether locking it will help.
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I'm from us, but please don't hate me i didn't decide to be birthed here
I'm assuming your a tmobile UK user due to your post. I'm not really familiar as to what to do with your situation as I've never dealt with UK RUU Issues. I would assume you probably can't use any of the RUUs from anywhere else. You would think T-Mobile would have an international one out. I would probably not risk damaging your device using other carriers unless someone tells you it works. I don't see why trying a tmous RUU would harm you though. There are two versions of it out a 1.54 and 1.84 I believe. I don't know what effect itll have on your phone though so don't blame me if it bricks if you try.
Ive got a huge problem I supercid my phone last night and after that I couldn't call or text anyone as well as recieve. I even unsupercid my phone and back to the original HTC__001 cid. So can anyone give me a solution. Btw I relocked my bootloader and ran the European RUU and it worked
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Maybe try to run the RUU again? Or a factory reset.
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No no this happened due to me trying to super cid. I just did the ruu right now. I think I need to flash a radio but not sure how to
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That's possible I suppose. Here is how.
After flashing your device properly, start it up and let everything run a few minutes so the ROM can get settled in, I assume you've done that already.
Next you download the radio image you need, I'm not sure which it is I don't know what your running.
Then reboot to fast boot.
Enter
Code:
fastboot flash radio radio.IMG
Then reboot your phone with
Code:
fastboot reboot
Or you can do it through a menu on the device.
Then you should have your radio set.
Someone please correct if anything is wrong.
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My hboot version is 1.14.002
Radio-1.06s.50.02.27_2
I'm not sure which radio to flash, so could you please tell me?
P:S I'm on the S4 processor
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I'm not sure which radio you need. This is what I have.
HBOOT-1.14.004
RADIO-1.08ts.50.02.16
I googled quick, but haven't been able to find anything as of yet. Maybe check the wiki?
lonegunman0 said:
My hboot version is 1.14.002
Radio-1.06s.50.02.27_2
I'm not sure which radio to flash, so could you please tell me?
P:S I'm on the S4 processor
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Your not flashing any radio with that HBOOT.
HTC One S
Flash radio
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Your not flashing any radio with that HBOOT.
HTC One S
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Are you saying there aren't any radios that i can flash? I'm actually considering sending this back to htc to see if they can fix it but im not sure if they will
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Are you saying there aren't any radios that i can flash? I'm actually considering sending this back to htc to see if they can fix it but im not sure if they will
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He is saying you CAN'T flash radios, new, old, it doesn't matter. Your hboot does not support it. You are SOL.