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So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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So, since this is basically a larger, overclocked Captivate with a better camera, do you guys think it'd be possible to port something from it?
I probably am completely off the mark here, but if they improved the GPS software, it could be useful.
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I'm wondering the same thing. It's confusing where this device will be supported (hopefully a mod can post a thread for the device if necessary).
Possibly, but man 200 is too much for that phone. Its only marginally better than the Captivate. They should be introducing the Galaxy S2. I would hold out for that rather then jump on this phone. This phone will phase out our beloved Captivate.
Infuse and Galaxy S II
Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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nope.
it's froyo.
it's single core cpu.
it's 4.5" instead of 4.3"
I would hold out the next few months for the S2. The captivate is still a very good phone.
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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Same processor, according to the specs on GSMArena. Not that much improvement over the Cappy.
Another thing I'm wondering is regarding the battery life of this phone. I suppose they'll place a larger battery but an extra 1/2 inch of screen is a lot.
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well the drawback of the cappy is the lack of a camera flash. though the cammera does way better in low light than many phones out there, a flash is nice for the close range shots in near total darkness. like in a club or something. also gsm arena and others are frequently wrong. one of those sites was saying that the i9010 armani had a front facing camera, they basically borrowed the spec sheet from the i9000 assuming it was the same in but in a captivate form factor. right now all the sites are woring off rumors and assuptions. not official specifications
the best assumption is that the processor is at minimum the same series because the orrigonal ad from janurary has the word hummingbird in it. but that doesnt mean the same part number or specifications or that the add from janurary even reflects the actual features. at that time the form of the phone wasnt even final, the battery door hadn't been finalized. then the back of the phone was smooth and now it is textured and looks like the sgs2 but bigger. it is posible specs have changed and maybe why the samsung site and att use the words "powerful 1.2 ghz application processor" without a name or series or description beyond that.
there are also alternatives to the galaxy s coming out with the qualcom scorpion/snapdragon chips clocked at 1.4 ghz(they need to be that fast to get the 3d graphics up to par with our chip because the adreno 205 is not quite as fast as the powervr sgx540 wth open gl). these phones will have 1080p recording and playback, similar or marginally faster 3d graphics and way faster cpu. there will be the galaxy s plus and the galaxy s 2 mini running on this chip (supposedly) so there is even a chance that the infuse will have a qualcom chip of some kind. it should get announces very soon officially. a rumor was there is a conference in nyc with samsung and att today presumably to unveil it with updated/officail specs
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Maybe a dumb question. Aren't the Infuse and the Galaxy S II the same phone?
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One's the best smartphone on the planet, the other is a pile of crap that should have come out last year.
What do you think?
Thanks
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No. The infuse is a phone being released may 15th sporting a 1200mhz processor (dunno if its just an oc version of ours), a ff camera, a 8mp back camera and a larger/nicer/sharper screen.
The galaxy s2 is a dual core beast that just dropped in europe and has been submitted to the fcc with att bands, so it'll be out by the end of this year/early next
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Thanks I thought it was a different name for the same phone. I was waiting for the Infuse thinking it was the Galaxy S II. Guess I'll have to keep waiting.
What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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I doubt its the same modem hardware. I'll be happy to be proven wrong though.
there was new modem hardware in th egalaxy s 4g so id say there is a slim chance of that.
AT&T to allow third-party apps on Infuse! Changing policy on future phones as well?
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20060485-251.html
im gonna go see if i can pre order one today. the phone was announced for the 15th so we'll see.
i can always return it for another captivate. i may regret screwing myself out of a sgs2 but i dont think there is much on that phone i will need to have. i guess i could buy a sgs2 outright if i really get an itch for it. if i get one id rather have the international model anyway.
http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-infuse-4g-hands-on-0/#4112730
eww! shiney metalic plasitcs! why samsung? why? i may just pay for an sgs2 out of pocket after seeing that!
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What are the odds that we'll be able to port the infuse modem over to the captivate and get 21Mbps download speeds?
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You do realize the difference between hardware and software right?
syl0n said:
This and the SGS2 could only mean one thing. Lots of users hopefully trading in their Captivates which can be picked up off ebay for cheap .
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It's not cheap on ebay!
When and if the galaxy s2 comes out, are you staying with the infuse or buying the GS2?
Just curious if anyone likes their infuse that much.
Bigger display and better sound chip = staying with the Infuse
im staying with it for now. until a phone that i see is actually worth it. i got my eyes on 2 ATM Optimis 3D and the Nexus 4G
Infuse for sure. There's no way I could go back to a smaller screen, and I haven't had ANY performance issues that would make me yearn for the battery draining dual core.
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Bigger display and better sound chip = staying with the Infuse
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ditto......
docodine said:
Bigger display and better sound chip = staying with the Infuse
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Any link to read on the difference of the sound chip? Or could you explain? Thanks.
Considering I'd have to pay full price for the GS2 - staying with the Infuse.
I have yet to see anything that really needs that second core, and the display of the Infuse is GORGEOUS.
Running the Infused ROM, on this screen, is rapture. I don't think I'll switch phones until the Infuse 2. I came from an iPhone 4, with a Nexus One before that, and neither can compare. All the GS2 would do for me is downsize my screen with no immediate performance benefit (because of Infused ROM, with VooDoo lag fix).
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I was thinking about it. But I'm really liking this phone, and not really knowing when the hell they're bringing it stateside, I'm perfectly happy with the infuse, especially on the infused rom
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Since I am one of those who only upgrade when I can get it at a discount, I'll be using the infuse for then next like 14 months or so until AT&T says I'm due for an upgrade. I like new phones, but not enough to pay full retail for them.
I had every intention of taking this back as soon they made an anouncement about the gs2 coming out. Then I played around with it for a day or so and even though the battery bothers me, I can't give this phone up. Its easily the best I've ever had.
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Have an IP4 and a Dell Streak....Infuse hits the sweet spot.
I am keeping
Gingerbread around the corner and this thing is going to fly.
I am keeping.
I'm keeping it love this phone n the screen size yea I can't pick up a smaller phone lol
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Keeper here too. Love this phone.
SGSIII should be out by the time the contract is up
Def.a keeper..as said many times biger screen better audio chip.. Now if att.gs2 has 4.5 and wolfson chip? This will be on craigs list the day i can buy it
I'm just curious as to how much samsung hurt their own sg2 sales by putting this one out lol...at least att sales anyway. I know it'll be on more than one carrier.
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Any link to read on the difference of the sound chip? Or could you explain? Thanks.
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look up supercurio on twitter.
the sgs2 has a yamaha audio chip, it's not bad but somehow in the implementation they have a noise issue, clicking and popping with volume and eq changes and such.
many sgs's and trhe infuse have a wolfson chip, not only is wolfson a great chip the manufacturer was very cooperative with supercuio in providing the sources and drivers.
I got the Infuse with a new contract on 6/2 so unless a better phone comes out in the next week or so when I'm still able to return it, I'm sticking with it. I love this phone and don't really see a point in switching.
Okay for us that had the SGS1 Captivates we had to choose between either having GREAT sound on voice calls or running i9000 roms to get the faster data speeds. So with this article I am even more excited to get the SGS2 for AT&T since we wont have to choose between speed or sound this next time around.
Article:
http://news.yahoo.com/audience-ceo-...Q1OGMtMTFlMC1iY2YzLWQyYzFiNzFjNzM0NQ--;_ylv=3
For those with the SGS2 i9100 do you have the Audience Chips inside also? Or is it something AT&T had put into the next generation phones as they did with the SGS Captivate? I am STILL waiting to see WHAT is actually offered in the AT&T SGS2 (Price, Able to keep my Grandfathered in UNLIMITED DATA PLAN) before deciding whether I want to use my upgrade or buy an unlocked International Version. Hopefully we all will know more soon.
I misread the title I was about to post about wolfson (sgs1) vs yamaha (sgs2).
On topic though the captivate was the only galaxy s phone with the audience chip.
All other variants did not have it.
Doesn't the Nexus S have it too?
Elisha said:
Doesn't the Nexus S have it too?
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Yes I believe the article said the Captivate, Nexus S, and SGS2. It also said there is other companies that use it but they wouldn't say who.
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BenKranged said:
I misread the title I was about to post about wolfson (sgs1) vs yamaha (sgs2).
On topic though the captivate was the only galaxy s phone with the audience chip.
All other variants did not have it.
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Yeah, was disappointed to hear that the Wolfson chip wasn't retained. It was an unexpected benefit of Captivate ownership especially once tuned with Voodoo Sound and I remember reading that Supercurio didn't think as much of the Yamaha. It's enough to leave me thinking I can just wait until next year when I'll be eligible for a subsidized upgrade.
Of course the SGS 2 is also rumored to use a SIRF gps chip instead too, which is almost enough to make me think upgrading off contact might be worthwhile...
Glad to see that the Audience chip will still be around though. I miss having it in Gingerbread and can't wait for at&t gingerbread to drop so we can get some custom roms that aren't just tweaked and themed a little.
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Elisha said:
Doesn't the Nexus S have it too?
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Technically Nexus S isn't a Galaxy S, even though everyone knows it is.
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Technically Nexus S isn't a Galaxy S, even though everyone knows it is.
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Nexus S is galaxy S 1.5, much advanced than SGS 1 but not as good as SGS 2.
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Nexus S is galaxy S 1.5, much advanced than SGS 1 but not as good as SGS 2.
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How's that?
Same cpu, ram and storage. Just a different design with the addition of that chip for developers to experiment with!
it has a unique contour screen. A gps that actually works unlike most of SGS1. NFC chip and no more samsung rfs that causes lag.
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it has a unique contour screen. A gps that actually works unlike most of SGS1. NFC chip and no more samsung rfs that causes lag.
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And that makes it a SGS 1.5?
Google influenced the design. Other than the NFC chip, internally it is just a SGS. Ext4 is just a personal choice. Samsung chose RFS.
The gps varies on all SGS models.
I drove a 4,200km round trip and only lost gps signal in the Montreal tunnel!
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And that makes it a SGS 1.5?
Google influenced the design. Other than the NFC chip, internally it is just a SGS. Ext4 is just a personal choice. Samsung chose RFS.
The gps varies on all SGS models.
I drove a 4,200km round trip and only lost gps signal in the Montreal tunnel!
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It's a evolution of SGS 1. That's I called SGS 1.5, not enough to be called SGS2.
As for GPS, come here and I will show you how mine not working. The fact that there are so many threads about GPS and countless *GPS Fix* threads should mean something, right? Yes, not every SGS1 has bad GPS but significant portions of them do. Count yourself lucky.
Does Infuse have a better Sound Chip than Galaxy S2? I heard the sound card is mediocre in S2. I hope Infuse has the same card as S1 as it is really a 1st generation phone.
You name 3 different phones, what does the S1 have to do with anything that you said?
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You name 3 different phones, what does the S1 have to do with anything that you said?
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He's saying the s1 has a good chip, so he hopes its the same for the infuse. Duh! Read properly before you post.
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He's saying the s1 has a good chip, so he hopes its the same for the infuse. Duh! Read properly before you post.
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the infuse. omg no no he asking about the SGS2 duhh! and yes the infuse has a better sound chip than the SGS2 i think. yeah it does.
i think....
from what i remember reading off of supercurios blog, the Infuse uses a wolfson DAC whereas the SGS2 uses a yamaha chip. He made a tweet a while ago saying he gave up developing voodoo sound for SGS2 because the sound quality maximum potential is just that much lower on the SGS2 and he's angry at samsung for it.
To sum up, infuse > SGS2 for sound
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from what i remember reading off of supercurios blog, the Infuse uses a wolfson DAC whereas the SGS2 uses a yamaha chip. He made a tweet a while ago saying he gave up developing voodoo sound for SGS2 because the sound quality maximum potential is just that much lower on the SGS2 and he's angry at samsung for it.
To sum up, infuse > SGS2 for sound
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Perfect response, thanks!
considering other options for a mobile device. what i'm wanting to know is how can i tell which phones have the best output sound quality? i've grown quite fond of our phones with voodoo. i use poweramp to play music and absolutely love the sound.
i've heard other friends phones that arent compatible with voodoo and they just dont sound the same.. almost like the difference between stereo and mono.
i realize voodoo isnt compatible with newer galaxy devices because of the different chips, but hoping they might still sound as good. thanks for any input
The Infuse has the Wolfson DAC that is why it sounds good.
Look for other phones with that DAC then they should sound good too. I heard the sound of a Samsung Note and to me it sounded rather "flat". That one has a Yamaha DAC.
I haven't found a newer device with Voodoo Sound support. Nexus S could work if you're willing to cut specs for Android 4.
the asus transformer tablet has a wolfson dac. and it does have voodoo support.
Are there no other chipsets that have the same audio quality as ours? The device doesn't necessarily have to support voodoo, I'm sure the same effects could be achieved without it..
So..basically the infuse is the "best device" capable of producing this kind of audio quality?
That's disappointing..its really the only reason I haven't upgraded yet. I wonder how it compares to non Samsung devices, out even non Android devices. I'm open to switching platforms and brands
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I tried a WP7 Titan prototype and was dissappointed. The only other option I've heard of is an iPhone using an external DAC with an amp for your headphones. Too much work IMO.
Wow I didn't think the options would be limited to devices before the infuse lol I'm kinda partial to having one device for all my needs. Its a shame manufacturers are slowly drifting towards cost/benefit for the majority looks like I'm keeping my infuse.
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captivate uses the wolfson chip,,yeah not an upgrade,now if cowon and sam would hook up it would be awsome
I have been researching this for a long time and nothing I have found compares to a voodoo enhanced Wolfson DAC (excluding line out amps). I contacted Supercurio before deciding on a device to see what he personally has found to give the best sound (I trust his ears) and the response was Nexus S or Infuse. The tw6040 in the g-nexus is "ok", better than yamaha but not as good as cirrus (newer iPhones). Infuse was my choice and still yet to find a true contender!
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I wonder how good the htc one x is.... debating running up to the store and testing. Oh wait, its got beats lol
ok, so this brings me to my next question.. no suitable replacement currently available from att with wolfson dac.. are there any international devices sporting the wolfson chipset? ex: gs2, galaxy note.. etc.. ? where can i find out which audio chipset each device has? i've been looking all day. i cant even find a site that mentions what chip the infuse has unless i type in " infuse wolfson" but that defeats the purpose, because i already know that!
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I wonder how good the htc one x is.... debating running up to the store and testing. Oh wait, its got beats lol
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I work at a telco that just launched it last week (and one-v) and it sounds just like the sensation xl. So yea, just beats. Not as good as voodoo and that was comparing both on dre solo hds. But hey, ears are all different so might sound good to you.
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ok, so this brings me to my next question.. no suitable replacement currently available from att with wolfson dac.. are there any international devices sporting the wolfson chipset? ex: gs2, galaxy note.. etc.. ? where can i find out which audio chipset each device has? i've been looking all day. i cant even find a site that mentions what chip the infuse has unless i type in " infuse wolfson" but that defeats the purpose, because i already know that!
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When I was looking for "the one" I was calling around manufacturers asking about their chipsets. The unanamous response was "we cannot disclose that information" so it's all hush hush. I was trawling daily looking for references to teardowns and specs looking for things like "DAC" and "Audio chip". Painstaking but I found the infuse (I live in new zealand) and couldn't be happier. If I find anything as I keep searching from time to time I will update here
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Appreciate the input. does anyone else know if international versions of any device have a Wolfson DAC or similar?
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Some phones i find with Dolby Digital
Source: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/product/mobile/listing.html
HTC Inspire 4G
LG Chocolate Touch
LG enV Touch
Nokia N8
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Have you looked into the LG G2X ? I believe that one has a Wolfson DAC if i am not mistaken.
I personally am going to hold off on upgrading devices until i find something comparable to the Infuse or Nexus S.
Call me crazy but that is one of the reasons, or the main reason I sold my Galaxy Nexus and kept the Infuse 4G instead.
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Have you looked into the LG G2X ? I believe that one has a Wolfson DAC if i am not mistaken.
I personally am going to hold off on upgrading devices until i find something comparable to the Infuse or Nexus S.
Call me crazy but that is one of the reasons, or the main reason I sold my Galaxy Nexus and kept the Infuse 4G instead.
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Was the gnexus just decent?
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Was the gnexus just decent?
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I did not spend too much time testing or tweaking it, but right out of the box i can say it didn't really please my ears. I have a decent headphone audio setup in the $800 range that includes a dedicated USB DAC/Amp coupled with a pair of Sennheiser HD650 and the Infuse still satisfies my needs in comparison.
So yeah, to answer your question, decent enough if you don't really have sensitive ears or you are one of those folks that believe beats by Dre is great audio.(Including headphones, or beats by Dre lib mod junk that you see here around the forums, etc..)
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I did not spend too much time testing or tweaking it, but right out of the box i can say it didn't really please my ears. I have a decent headphone audio setup in the $800 range that includes a dedicated USB DAC/Amp coupled with a pair of Sennheiser HD650 and the Infuse still satisfies my needs in comparison.
So yeah, to answer your question, decent enough if you don't really have sensitive ears or you are one of those folks that believe beats by Dre is great audio.(Including headphones, or beats by Dre lib mod junk that you see here around the forums, etc..)
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I believe its good lol but hate the stock sound with all the heavy bass, i tune it from there. Then to me it sounds good on a good headset or stero system. The best sound that came out of my infuse was in my car with beats installed on cm7, along with voodoo tuning. It sounded amazing (to me and everyone who heard it lol).
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My ears disagree with this. I too have hd650s and also some grado's but for portable music my dre solo hds murder them for clarity - especially on the infuse. I just use poweramp to tweak the highs slightly and to me they sound incredible for the electronic music I listen to. They shake my head like nothing else. Love it to bits!
To each their own I guess.
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