If Im rooted (and paid someone to do it...ie I know nothing) and do the OTA update...what will happen? I could really care less if I lose my superuser capabilities. Will i simply lose root access or will it screw up my phone?
I'm pretty sure it won't let you download the update...either that or you will lose root access. Or, nothing and it will update and you'll still have root. Just try and find out, you can always reflash in Odin!
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Hey everyone,
So I'm new to smartphones as the DROID Charge is my first one ever so if my questions sound stupid, that would be why. Anyway, my charge should be arriving tomorrow from amazon and I have a few questions.
My main question is this: If I root the phone, is there a way to unroot it so I can still get the verizon updates? In addition to this, after I root it and let's just say I take the ED2 update, what would happen? would it unroot itself? would something else happen?
Thanks a lot!
Yes and yes.
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thanks,
but what if you take a verizon update while you are rooted? what happens then?
You lose root
ok cool...
but lets say that i freeze or delete all that verizon crapware on it and then take an update and it unroots; will all that come back or will it stay. in addition to that, any rooted apps that are downloaded while im rooted cant be run while im not rooted right?
More likely if you root and freeze the VZ blotware with Titanium after the update Titanium wont work anyone and your bloatware will come back.
The best idea is to stay with ED1 until a root comes for ED2.
alright cool thanks..
how long do you think it'll be before they root ED2? i mean, how long does it normally take them to root things?
Poloasis said:
More likely if you root and freeze the VZ blotware with Titanium after the update Titanium wont work anyone and your bloatware will come back.
The best idea is to stay with ED1 until a root comes for ED2.
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According to posts in another forum, the ED2 update is not a full ROM flash...users who have rooted and removed bloatware under ED1 have then accepted the ED2 update and still have the bloat gone...lost root, however and no current means of regaining.
imnuts and DroidXcon have something in the works, hopefully!
So it sounds like the only way to blow out root is to update to ED2.
OR
It sounds like if someone creates a backup non-rooted Odin package of ED1, that would also be a good way to unroot the phone?
bunklung said:
So it sounds like the only way to blow out root is to update to ED2.
OR
It sounds like if someone creates a backup non-rooted Odin package of ED1, that would also be a good way to unroot the phone?
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/cha...harge-5-19-11-windows-mac-now-gingersnap.html
Includes unroot if you used android police methods or Semi auto root...im going to have to modify the unroot a bit because of gingersnap though
Im on stock rooted 2.3.4
My phone is trying to go 2.3.6
I currently have no interest in this and as of 10pm tonight i am leaving on vaca for 4 days. directly after work (3pm) i am going to dmv where i will prob rot for about 3 hours.
My main question is at least this. If i just take the update to stop the constant nagging its doing to me (like i am doing to this forum right now) will i lose my root? I CANT lose root right now because without tethering I will be FORCED to actually talk with my girlfreind while away instead of tethering her phone and letting her play on the web. This to me is like having my nuts squeezed in a vice!
If I take the update and my phone screws up I will have NO time to redo it until I get back. If it wasnt of this kind of importance I would have already tried the update and just restored if it didnt work. I have an image of my phone in CMR BUUUUUUUUUUUUT I have had CMR break down on me before trying to restore and cant risk it. Dont want to have to press later for 4 days lol.
Thanks
If you want to be on 2.3.6 save yourself the trouble and flash a rooted version.
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Rem3Dy said:
If you want to be on 2.3.6 save yourself the trouble and flash a rooted version.
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i just want to stop the nagger
tevil said:
i just want to stop the nagger
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Its simple. Either take the update and then flash superuser from cwm to gain root again or just flash the update in cwm.
Ether way your bootloader will not be changed neither will your recovery.
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if i flash it in CWR will it remove the root or does it stay there. also i have been looking for the update somewhere and havent had luck.
I see one 2.3.6 rom that was pulled for the 9020a and one update for i think the 9023
if you have a 9020a update link i can install from CWM i would appreciate it. Tried using search funtion.
thanks
i let the ota through and didn't loose root. did you check here for what you're looking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056062
Hey.
My phone: Htc One X is rooted, and a software update just arrived, if i update, will i loose the root?
Or will it in worst chase get bricked?
I regulary update over the air.
Will this remove the root? and must i unlock bootloader and all that stuff i messed with over again if i need to root again?
I wouldn't do that if I were you, you could loss root and have to start all over, and maybe brick your phone, I would wait and see if a dev for this phone could make the update into a Rom, that would be the safe way to go
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Ok, but if i want to unroot, and i manage to unroot it, would it then be able to update? or will it then brick?
Cause i like to have my devices up to date.
andsa said:
Ok, but if i want to unroot, and i manage to unroot it, would it then be able to update? or will it then brick?
Cause i like to have my devices up to date.
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Then you should be fine
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Ok, what is the most simple way to unroot?
Is it just to delete SU folders and root folders? or must i do alot of CMD flashing?
Superone click, or flash a ruu wich is a completly stock Rom with stock recovery
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So wait...let me get this straight. You got a $600 phone and decided to root it. You had no clue what you can and can't do with root up to and including an update. And you rooted your phone without knowing how to get back to stock. I am guessing you don't know how to get back to stock because you used a one click root method. WTF would you root $600 phone for if you had no clue what you were doing, and obviously incapable of reading how to reverse what you have done? This is the problem with one click root methods. You get no understanding of the Android system at all. Can I ask, what was the reason you decided to root??
i did not use oneclickroot, but the tool that xda has as an all in one tool for one x.
I rooted to get the fraps smiliar app screencast but it does not have support for tegra 3...
So yes, if i get it back to its original state, i will not attend any more root anymore.
So please, help me get it back to stock painless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-hSF9oPgfY
Ok, so to get it back to the state when i got the phone and to be able to update painlessly, i have to flash it with a backup stock ROM?
Bump.
I have a Droid Bionic and I waited for a long time for the ICS OTA leak. I have really enjoyed it. The OTA jellybean update was just released and now I want to install that. I have downloaded it, but now it fails whenever I try to install it. What is my best plan of action to install it without losing anything? Any help would be appreciated.
Backup your user data and flash the firmware
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I think you were swapped external card into internal. Try to restore original one vold.fstab, and do OTA. I tried that and its work.
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I would really like to do the OTA update from my phone and not lose any apps or lose Root privileges. Is there a way to do that?
CinderCloud said:
I would really like to do the OTA update from my phone and not lose any apps or lose Root privileges. Is there a way to do that?
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Flash the latest jb firmware
You can backup your apps+data with any backup app like titanium/go backup
Search in Google that how to root this jb firmware
Or use pc suit for backup and software update
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CinderCloud said:
I would really like to do the OTA update from my phone and not lose any apps or lose Root privileges. Is there a way to do that?
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Dude, i think OTA-ing wont lose your any data/apps.
For root keep available after OTA, just use OTA Rootkeeper, available in Play Store.(just make sure if you wont lose your root)
My Grandma's advice "make a backup if something goes wrong"
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I was wondering if anyone found a way to take ota after rooting. I have always had rooted devices and always ended up on custom roms. For now I would like to stay on the official rom and debloat a bit. Any ideas?
Pretty sure you can just flash back to stock and take ota, then re root. You normally need stock recovery to take ota, and be unrooted
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I can't believe i didnt think of that after I did the same thing with the S4. Thx for shining some light into my clouded mind lol
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I rooted yesterday night. Will I be able to odin back to official and receive OTA updates?
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I tried this and update still wouldn't let me download the OTA.
Unless someone comes out with a way to revert the knox flag (which is said to be a perm flag) it won't ever be possible to be true factory again as all OTA's will now check for the tamper.
I think someone mentioned though you can manually install it, just the downloader/OTA wouldn't work.
If manually still wasn't possible I'm sure someone could remove the check from the update and you still get it that way but officially through Samsung you currently are probably stuck.
Ideally someone finds a way to reset the so called, perma flag.
If not the alternative might be finding a way to root the phone without flagging it, but in those cases it won't help those already flagged.
I know on HTC they had a similar type of flag, though didn't use it to check for update status. They flagged as Tampered or Re-locked for example.
However after some time we found how to reset those in some magical hidden area to blind write too (not talking about those that cheated to hide it via bootloader image edits)
At this point it's a wait and see game...
I hope someone finds fast though, I am stock and really want to get this bloat off my phone lol
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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roadrunnrr said:
I tried it myself now... Rooted and i couldnt even check for updates. Unrooted but device status was still custom. I had to go into the stock recovery and wipe everything and then Odin stock firmware to be able to check for updates
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When I tried this the update check still failed stating that I had a custom ROM.
Just checked for updates and it went through
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roadrunnrr said:
Just checked for updates and it went through
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Were you rooted then un-rooted?? Can you post the OTA file from your cache??
Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it. Let me know where I can find the OTA and I'll post it. But I'm unrooted now so I don't know if it will work
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Yeah... Rooted then grabbed the whole factory md5 and restored that did it.
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Nice, Otherwise seems like a bad strategy on Samsung's part if they don't allow people who unroot and odin back to stock to take OTA's.. Why would a manufacture not want to offer a path back to stock for security updates and the chance to get a user back on a bloated rom full of there paid ad apps. Each time users do this there is a small percentage that won't either be able to re-root due to updates stopping the root method or just out of hassle. I understand the warranty flag but not why you wouldn't offer a path back to stock unless they are just being short sighted in an attempt to penalize people who root which won't have much effect..
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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roadrunnrr said:
I'd post the OTA like I said but I'm unrooted now.
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So root!!
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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I can't seem to do it. Once I rooted and tripped the Knox flag bit the Update check won't let me download. But the error message says that I can still download and install updates using Kies.
I just fixed it. The problem is not the Knox flag but rather the fact that Custom was showing in Download mode instead of Official. I had to flash twice without my SDcard inserted to get to Official. Once I got to Official the update started to download.
rooted?
roadrunnrr said:
Still waiting to find out if I'll be able to get back to official and then check for updates after this update and root
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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so what does it matter if a phone is rooted or not in terms of an OTA update from a phone that has already received it?....wouldn't you just upload it and apply it? shouldn't matter at all whether phone is rooted or not when you're updating the file received from an already received OTA phone update. It's just the acquisition of the update that's blocked, not the install. At least until the 5SS you could always just grab a copy of the OTA update and install.
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No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
Epix4G said:
No if you were completely stock and just root ...with stock recovery and no missing system files it could be done. ...it now has to say official for the ota to finish ....no other way
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Patience.. I guess..
dk2463 said:
but again, once a non-rooted phone receives the OTA update, you just pull the update from the phone and share it and even rooted phones can update...that's my point...am shocked no one is sharing their "received" OTA update
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I gotta agree.. Most of my previous device OTA's were always dumped within hours of release really surprised this hasn't been yet. This is my first Samsung phone and I have liked the device but kinda disappointed in the XDA turnout so far. I am always appreciative of those who are here but I just thought with how popular the Galaxy line was there would be more dev support from day 1 but there hasn't been much so far. I know it's early and being CDMA/Sprint really limits us but seems like all my previous HTC devices on Sprint and the current M8 are getting way more action.. Oh well, but sure makes a jump to T-Mobile for the new Oneplus One Cyanogen phone sound tempting haha..
And thanks again to all those who are here and contributing!!!