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Should I be? Does it effect the plan at all if I root? I'm scared, which is weird because I've rooted my other 3 android phones.... >_<
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Should I be? Does it effect the plan at all if I root? I'm scared, which is weird because I've rooted my other 3 android phones.... >_<
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LOL I thought the same thing. I have the same protection plan, and it made me uneasy about rooting for a while. I eventually did it and won't look back. I'm absolutely sure it voids your protection, so I'm probably going to cancel it soon. I think it's worth it to do what you want with this phone, and you have to make a personal decision what you value more. Do you take the risk and give up guaranteed protection or do you let your phone stay in its underperforming stock state and enjoy guaranteed protection? I experienced my first boot loop today; it scared the hell out of me, but my phone ended up being just fine and I still won't look back haha.
Cant you just un-root and s-on your phone if you need to use the warranty?
Yes
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e
yes you can revert back to stock and turn revert s-off back to s-on. just read and re-read the guide over there in the htc sensation android development forum. its stikied so you can find it on the first page. the first post has everything you need even a how to to turn s-on.
I have tmobile as well, just do your self a favor and make a sensation folder on your desktop, and in it include a folder labeled stock. Download the stock rom and radio if you replace it and keep a link to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
since this guide will show you how to root it in only a few mins and how to also revert it back to stock.
I already used this twice and was able to do a swap out at my local store since i was within my 14 days grace period
I think I bricked my phone, but wanted to check here first. Needed to send device back for warranty service, but may have just hosed myself. Was running new ICS FW 3.24 and testing ARHD & IC ROMS without issue.
I set my CID back to T-MOB010 as device was originally with ADB. Rebooted into bootloader and verified the updated CID was shown and it was.
Now this is where I think I choked....
I meant to flash RUU to take back to stock, but got my steps mixed up and did the fastboot command to put S-On back onto the device. Now the damn thing won't even boot up....black and no signs of life. My PC can no longer see it either.
Any suggestions or should I give up hope because of hat one mis-step?!?
I know you have probably done all this but heres what I would do. I would take the battery out then put it back in then hold volume down and power on and see if hboot will turn on. If hboot won't turn on your bricked. sorry dude. Also if you would have ran a stock RUU it would have s-on your phone as it would have flashed stock hboot I believe.
Any suggestions or should I give up hope because of hat one mis-step?!?
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Sorry i think your only chance is Warranty !!
If your provider is tmobile I have a fun fact for ya. There going to ask you 3 questions after they waste an 30 minutes of your time trying to trouble shoot "it just won't turn on". They ask you, is it in one piece(yes)? Is there any physical damage(no)? Are the water indicators white(yes)? Is the battery damaged(no)? If you answer correctly they'll send you out a new phone right then and there. If you lie and send your old one back and lets say it's been ran over, they'll charge your account full price for the phone. When the new one arrives you send the old one back. They never ask about rooting or anything of that nature, so your not telling them any lies. NICE. Also they're going to ask a bunch about the battery on the phone. They're hoping just your battery is ****ed up. To speed past this step tell them you have a second HTC battery made for the Sensation that doesn't work either.
Yes, it won't even go to HBOOT now, so I'm pretty sure I'm toast. Thanks for the replies!
Just sent my HTC Sensation off for repair under warranty due to this fault :
Running OpenSensation nightly 20120810 and TamCore 3.0.40 without any issues and updated the nightly every 2-3 days with no issues. had the phone 12 months and had it s-OFF and unlocked about 4 hours after buying it. At that time running CM7 as that's all there was, updated to various ROMs until I settled on OpenSensensation (tried CM9 a couple of times for a few days but prefer OpenSensation). All ROMs installed fine over the past 12 months
Installed Kingdoms and Lords off Google play (huge game 200MB data download via wireless), after first game phone froze and reset. So I reduced the overclock, game running fine. Had another game later on in night playing for about 15 minutes. Phone froze again, switched itself off and didn't come back on again !!!!
Tried charging it thinking battery was flat, no charge. Took battery out as it was an Anker 1900mah just in case it had blown. Put original HTC battery back in, no charge light, nothing. Took battery out and left it out 2-3 hours as suggested on 'net as it 'might' help
No charge, tried another USB lead plugged into desktop. Still no charge .... oh crap
Took to T-Mobile shop I got phone and explained situation, forgetting to mention it was running custom ROM, they tried. Still no charge, no reaction in shop. Zero, zip
They sent it off for inspection/repair yesterday under warranty and said it should take 2-4 weeks
It had been running custom firmware since the day I got it on contract and has never caused me any grief, apart from some roms running better than others while I made a choice which ROM to stick with
Question I'm asking is can HTC still test the phone even though its not taking a charge or I assume not powering and just froze and died, assuming the motherboard is fine does anybody know if they use test points that bypass the USB socket to power it up
And how can just playing a legitimate game downloaded off Google Play freeze the phone and shut it down never to power up again
I'm guessing the possibilities of a faulty USB charge socket, faulty power switch or fried CPU/GPU/motherboard considering it just froze and died
I used it as a phone but did play games quite a lot during the day when I had a few minutes while not working, and had it overclocked to around 1625-1728 which it ran stable at without overheating
If they send it back refusing to touch it due to finding custom firmware on it I'm looking at the Samsung galaxy SIII over the HTC Nexus One simply because the Samsung has a removal battery and additional microsd card slot where for some reason I assume is to make rooting more awkward the HTC has a hardwired battery and NO extra sim card slot. I was looking to replace it when my contract expired in February but if they refuse to fix it citing custom firmware (even though it has been working perfectly for 12 months running various custom firmware) I have no real choice but to buy out my contract and get a new contract. Bummer
Hmmmm,
Reading a few postings it appears there is a possibility that the motherboard is fried somehow, or a 'hard brick' through a bad ROM install ... I wasn't updating and firmware, not updating any ROMs
Just playing a game downloaded and installed off Google Play, but if it means the motherboard is fried then at least it means HTC will have to replace it as 'faulty' so saving me the upfront cost of buying out my contract thas has 6 months to run
Actually if you overclock the device or flash a kernel htc doesn't have to replace anything.. by "playing a game downloaded from google play" you mean "playing a game downloaded from google play on a device controlled by custom drivers which clearly make your device out of warranty". So I'm not sure.. altough it's possible that it's not the fault of the kernel but the mainboard had some issues. They are able to test the charging port and the main board seperately. Let us know abouth the end.
It would interesting to see HTC's response either way so I'll report back once they have a look at the phone
As I don't have a loan phone at present so have no phone until they get one back from customers having their phone repaired, I have to use the 'net to check on the status of the repair via the T-Mobile website
I got my phone back yesterday with a new motherboard, under warranty
Now seriously struggling to get it to S-OFF as its running HBoot 1.27 as teh guys in the shop also said its had "new firmware upgraded for you", or to prevent me from getting S-OFF
Tried the all in one kit, tried the 'official' unlocker method from HTC. Keep getting the same error about token mismatch when trying to unlock the bootloader
Reading postings from here and there it's suggested that as the motherboard has been changed and a new IMEI, the IMEI and hardware serial numbers now don't match so causing a mismatch between number so the unlock obviously fails
Looking at trying the JB_Bear flash wire trick when I have more time to see if that work with replacement motherboards, so any suggestions as I'm stuffed and want S-OFF as well as full root again. Unlocked it when it was running HBOOT 1.18 was a doddle but now its a pain and T-Mobile branding is pants so want to be able to have my phone how I want it without all the crappy restrictions
Unless somebody can S-OFF and root for me in the North-West Lancs area without sending the phone away, I'll have to do a bit more digging to see what I come up with
thescrapyard said:
I got my phone back yesterday with a new motherboard, under warranty
Now seriously struggling to get it to S-OFF as its running HBoot 1.27 as teh guys in the shop also said its had "new firmware upgraded for you", or to prevent me from getting S-OFF
Tried the all in one kit, tried the 'official' unlocker method from HTC. Keep getting the same error about token mismatch when trying to unlock the bootloader
Reading postings from here and there it's suggested that as the motherboard has been changed and a new IMEI, the IMEI and hardware serial numbers now don't match so causing a mismatch between number so the unlock obviously fails
Looking at trying the JB_Bear flash wire trick when I have more time to see if that work with replacement motherboards, so any suggestions as I'm stuffed and want S-OFF as well as full root again. Unlocked it when it was running HBOOT 1.18 was a doddle but now its a pain and T-Mobile branding is pants so want to be able to have my phone how I want it without all the crappy restrictions
Unless somebody can S-OFF and root for me in the North-West Lancs area without sending the phone away, I'll have to do a bit more digging to see what I come up with
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for replaced mother boards ..there is a different version of jb ..check my soff guide ..link in my signature
Will let you know how it goes, thanks
Managed to get S-OFF using your method after a few tries did nothing so started making me nervous I was about to fry my new replacement motherboard, eventually it beeped and did the S-OFF by following yours steps to the letter
Problem is now, I want to remove the ***LOCKED*** but every recovery.img I try fails with a token error, which reading about it is down to teh bootloader apparently still locked
Also changed the HBOOT to your JB_HBOOT with no difference, still S-OFF but ***LOCKED***, so can't get the next step to get a fully rooted fully unlocked system so I can get back to where I was before the original motherboard died
I'm now looking at installing CM10 JellyBean 4.1 by KANG, I used to run OpenSensation CM9 quite happily and nightlies with zero issues installed a few ROMs over the past 12 months with a couple of minor issues I solved myself with reboot loops and ROMs getting confused and having to wipe the entire phone, plus when I wiped the core by accident during yet another ROM install .... that was fun to solve. Took a couple of days of reading about that one
Anyway, any suggestion as to how to get full unlocked or at least so I can install 4EXT recovery and SuperUser to get a bit further on the custom ROM route and get a phone that's what it should be instead of crippled by T-Mobile UK
Thanks for your help to get where I am so far
thescrapyard said:
Managed to get S-OFF using your method after a few tries did nothing so started making me nervous I was about to fry my new replacement motherboard, eventually it beeped and did the S-OFF by following yours steps to the letter
Problem is now, I want to remove the ***LOCKED*** but every recovery.img I try fails with a token error, which reading about it is down to teh bootloader apparently still locked
Also changed the HBOOT to your JB_HBOOT with no difference, still S-OFF but ***LOCKED***, so can't get the next step to get a fully rooted fully unlocked system so I can get back to where I was before the original motherboard died
I'm now looking at installing CM10 JellyBean 4.1 by KANG, I used to run OpenSensation CM9 quite happily and nightlies with zero issues installed a few ROMs over the past 12 months with a couple of minor issues I solved myself with reboot loops and ROMs getting confused and having to wipe the entire phone, plus when I wiped the core by accident during yet another ROM install .... that was fun to solve. Took a couple of days of reading about that one
Anyway, any suggestion as to how to get full unlocked or at least so I can install 4EXT recovery and SuperUser to get a bit further on the custom ROM route and get a phone that's what it should be instead of crippled by T-Mobile UK
Thanks for your help to get where I am so far
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for flashing eng-hboot aka changing from LOCKED to Juopunutbear
check the troubleshoot point #3 solution in my soff guide ..its explained there
and for thanks ..there is a button to say that
All sorted, now running the latest nightly of Kanga JellyBean 4.1 and full rooted and back to how it was before the motherboard dies, apart from running Android 4.1
Also feels much smoother and much faster, even though its only running the default slight overclock that Kanga sets as teh default, so might leave it at that as it feels faster than previous when running OpenSensation 4.03
Great stuff
Hey guys, I'm considering going with they option of rooting my HTC Sensation, but I'd like to clear something up beforehand.
At the moment Im on a pay monthly contract with my HTC Sensation and I pay monthly for insurance on the handset, before I go rooting my phone, if for some reason I need to send this phone off to my provider will my insurance be void? Or is this just the case if I haven't managed to return the phone to stock setup?
Id really like to try rooting my phone, but I dont want to have the problem of not being able to send the phone off for repairs or whatnot in the future. By repairs, obviously Im not referring to any problem that could occur during the rooting process, I mean more in the sense of hardware issues etc.
Any help is appreciated, and I apologise if this has been asked/answered before, I did do a forum search but found nothing.
Thanks.
You can S-Off your device without unlocking the bootloader over HTCdev. This way you can root and flash custom ROMs/kernels without loosing your warrenty.
If you have issues and you have to send the phone in, you can just run an RUU for you phone and S-On it again. Nobody would know that you have rooted it.
And if you want to S-Off take a look at the Hboot version! Hboot 1.2x has a different and more difficult way of S-Off'ing.
Oh right, how would I go about S-off'ing my phone? Would it still require me to go through the whole root process first off?
Thanks for your help
First we have to know your H boot version to direct you to the proper guide. To find out, pull battery, put battery back in, then at the same time press power and volume down button. Hold. Then you will see a screen pop up. Look at the information on Top of the screen. Then tell us your H Boot version. by the
Way, I also pay insurance every month on my device and I'm rooted and S off. If anything should happen I would restore back to stock and S on again. This way they would not know device was rooted. Hope this helps.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
Just did as you asked and my H boot version is 1.27.0000. That is what I was curious about, the whole insurance deal.
My main reason for considering rooting is to be able to theme my phone a bit more than what a launcher lets me, so what is recommended for this, just rooting, just S-off'ing or both?
Thanks
Gaz1521 said:
Just did as you asked and my H boot version is 1.27.0000. That is what I was curious about, the whole insurance deal.
My main reason for considering rooting is to be able to theme my phone a bit more than what a launcher lets me, so what is recommended for this, just rooting, just S-off'ing or both?
Thanks
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Both process are reversible, once its s-off and rooted, just dont change your hboot and your good to go. I had the same concern, yet when i needed to return my phone for the warranty, they never even cared and sent me the other one without question (after i turned back the s-on of course). Follow Ganesh's guide here: https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGNDWtlRFM7pBTIlQr-Y6Vd4nJEgw
Very easy and completely safe!
BoB!!
I suggest rooting and S off. I don't regret it for a second! I try all kinds of awesome roms and I'm able to customize to exactly how I want things! It's been a totally positive experience for me. As I mentioned in above post, I too pay the extra insurance monthly. If there we're a issue I'd return to stock. As above member mentioned he did it and didn't have any problems. I think once your rooted and s off you will be very happy. But do take the extra effort to s off because it's worth it in the long run and makes things easier for you, You will have the ability to do more with s off. Best wishes.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
Oh right, thanks you guys. I now feel more able to go ahead and root, now I just need to decide whether I think Im capable of doing it correctly.
Just had a look at that link you posted BobThaBear, it looks abit on the daunting side so Im going to have a long, hard think about it first.
Thanks for all of the help though, its very much appreciated
Does the T-Mobile HTC One S always come S-Off or was I lucky on my trade today? I traded my mint Sony Xperia Play (AT&T) this morning for a HTC One S, also mint. I've traded, bought and sold to the guy before and I know he gets his devices new by special means and knows nothing about rooting, bootloaders or S-Off.
Anyways I got curious in snooping around the bootloader menu and to my surprise found it to be S-Off...
Was this luck or do all/most/many come this way?
...nobody knows??? Just curious...
Crossvxm said:
...nobody knows??? Just curious...
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Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
tivofool said:
Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
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Oh okay. I was surprised to find it S-Off when I got this thing. I couldn't believe my eyes. That will save me a load full of work, especially the part were some of the tools require a Linux OS instead of Windows. Now ofcourse Linux is a download and installation away, but my "temporary" (now permanent) laptop is so old it only packs 128mb of ram (max can ONLY reach 512mb) and any type of Linux installation just hangs and never installs no matter how many hours you leave it running.
Not to mention some of these devices require the "hotwire" trick, and every time i need something (such as a paper clip) it is nowhere to be found.
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...nobody knows??? Just curious...
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htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
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Most come with S-ON, although some are sold S-off and Supercid (International use, I'm pretty sure)
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all the devices come with s-on.
real187 said:
htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
all the devices come with s-on.
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Nah trust me his knowledge on rooting and so on is VERY LOW. It once took me nearly an hour to show him how to flash a rom on a device I sold him and in a day or two he already messed things up since the rom would wipe many key apps when given an old fashion factory reset. ANOTHER good hour wasted explaining to him the process over phone. If he were to buy these devices used already then sell them to me I would believe that perhaps that person did it instead of him. He gets them brand new in a store he works in, instead of commissions/bonuses for his many sales his boss lets him pick a free phone of his choice as long as its not 100% modern (e.g. a Nexus 5. wish I had that type of boss) in which he gets the opportunity to make more money off of that but remember, his boss doesn't have to pay cash, and he's basically stuck with selling it himself.
If he cant flash a simple rom, or even use a simple app to root a device, I doubt he will ever be able to S-Off an HTC. Also if he were younger (lol) I'd consider the possibility. I honestly believe that this thing may have mistakingly been left S-Off or something by the factory. Or maybe it served a purpose back at HTC.
Whatever the case, it was a big surprise to me.
real187 said:
htc wil never ever give you a s-off device for free.
you have several situations. here are a few.
1: the previous owner of the device,
A was so kind to leave the device s-off, sold it
B he wasnt able/willing to get the s-on back properly, sold it.
C he ****ed up the device, was able to get it running again, left it as is, sold it.
D...
when i sell my devices i always ask you gonna customize it, if yes i leave it s-off. if not full stock
all the devices come with s-on.
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I would have to dig through old posts to find it, but I was talking to one guy who had just bought one from a store and they were S-off supercid. He said there were about 3-4 more there. Now this guy was from the middle east, I cannot remember which country he said.
I just assumed they had to sell them to that area that way so they could be used with their particular carrier.
I'll search and post it if I can find it.
Edit: found it, he was from Pakistan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483636
tivofool said:
I would have to dig through old posts to find it, but I was talking to one guy who had just bought one from a store and they were S-off supercid. He said there were about 3-4 more there. Now this guy was from the middle east, I cannot remember which country he said.
I just assumed they had to sell them to that area that way so they could be used with their particular carrier.
I'll search and post it if I can find it.
Edit: found it, he was from Pakistan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483636
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Hey now that you mention it I think thats the race his bosses are. But whats a supercid? Never heard of that before?
Nah definitely not as lucky to have a supercid. I assume CID = Carrier Identification seeing mine is T-Mobile related.
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