Alright, so I've been reading the forums and trying to keep up with everything going on with Charge development...but I'm still lost. I want to root my phone, as my old fascinate was rooted and I really liked having titanium backup, but never could get CWM to work on it. I don't know why, I followed the directions but only soft-bricked it a couple of times, so I gave up.
With the Charge, from what I understand, I can use Odin to go back to ED1 and then root from there. OR I can use Odin to flash a custom rom that will root ED2 and add CWM recovery...I think.
One thing I've seen is that I need to create my own backup in Odin before I attempt any of this, but to do it I need to be rooted so I'm not sure how to handle that situation either.
I've read the forums and I've done my research, but I still feel like I'm missing *something* as to how I can root the phone, what my problem with CWM was, and more importantly- how to create a backup? For instance, I keep seeing things about nandroid, but can't find anywhere to create a nandroid backup or any information other than people saying to use nandroid.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Nandroid only comes from CWM AFAIK. what I did was just install JT's root/CWM/voodoo via ODIN and then did a backup that way. then no matter what I did I could at least get back to that and then restore to a ED1 downgrade if I had too. You are right, other than using Back Up Pro, you cannot do an Odin backup without being rooted.
Good Luck
cynicismisfun said:
Alright, so I've been reading the forums and trying to keep up with everything going on with Charge development...but I'm still lost. I want to root my phone, as my old fascinate was rooted and I really liked having titanium backup, but never could get CWM to work on it. I don't know why, I followed the directions but only soft-bricked it a couple of times, so I gave up.
With the Charge, from what I understand, I can use Odin to go back to ED1 and then root from there. OR I can use Odin to flash a custom rom that will root ED2 and add CWM recovery...I think.
One thing I've seen is that I need to create my own backup in Odin before I attempt any of this, but to do it I need to be rooted so I'm not sure how to handle that situation either.
I've read the forums and I've done my research, but I still feel like I'm missing *something* as to how I can root the phone, what my problem with CWM was, and more importantly- how to create a backup? For instance, I keep seeing things about nandroid, but can't find anywhere to create a nandroid backup or any information other than people saying to use nandroid.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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I'd also like to Root mine for the use of Titanium and some other root only apps but I don't want custom, buggy ROM's or getting stuck with a downgraded devce that can't be upgraded....or worse, bricked from the hack.
Hopefully before long there will be a one click root for stock ED2 rom users.
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Thanks! I'll give it a shot tonight and see how it goes!
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please be understanding, I'm asking for guidance not ridicule. I'm not used to the Samsung came from Dinc. need to know how i would create a backup before installing a rom? any help is welcome
My opinion is that Titanium Backup is a great tool if you think you may switch ROMs/phones a lot as you can select what to restore fairly easily. If you're on the Charge now, and are just going to install the Debloated ROM, you don't have to wipe data when flashing, so you shouldn't loose your settings and such.
Another vote for Titanium to back up apps and data.
Apparently CWM isn't working properly for nandroid restores, so we're kind of screwed there. The development section has a thread by imnuts on how to do dumps of the partitions on the phone to use to restore in Odin. Should work as a fallback if you can actually get Odin to work (I can't, Heimdall won't work for me either).
If you just want to back up all your Apps / Data / Pictures (not a ROM image), MyBackupRoot does a great job. I found the User Interface to be simpler than TiBackup.
Titanium Backup is a great app to have on your device.
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My opinion is that Titanium Backup is a great tool if you think you may switch ROMs/phones a lot as you can select what to restore fairly easily. If you're on the Charge now, and are just going to install the Debloated ROM, you don't have to wipe data when flashing, so you shouldn't loose your settings and such.
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i forgot to mention i now have the CHARGE(rooted but on stock ED1) and coming from DINC. the ways of rooting and roming are different and if i may say confusing to me.
i read most of the threads in the Samsung Charge section, at this moment to tell you the truth i feel i should wait till things are clear (how to root & rom 4 dummies) up a bit.
what would you recommend?
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i forgot to mention i now have the CHARGE(rooted but on stock ED1) and coming from DINC. the ways of rooting and roming are different and if i may say confusing to me.
i read most of the threads in the Samsung Charge section, at this moment to tell you the truth i feel i should wait till things are clear (how to root & rom 4 dummies) up a bit.
what would you recommend?
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IMO titainium backup is all you ever really need. It can backup all your data and apps and even be programed to do so on a schedule. Everything else can be flashed w/ CWM or odin. I never nandroid backup.
I am able to select make backup of current rom.
The samsung charge reboots into clockwork.
But there is no option to make a backup.
Just: reboot
install zip
clear cache
format internal sd
thats it.
WTF!
Its driving me crazy.
what do i need to do first.
I flashed cwr ok.
Lost!!!!!
He took backup off of cwr for now because it will brick your phone if you try to use it as of now.. He working on it trying to get it to work.. Thats what I'm waiting on also.. I like to have a full backup before playing.
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CWM cannot be used to backup right now. It needs a serious fix from Kousch to work correctly.
If you think you really really need a full backup of your entire system all as one file, you can use the instructions here for using Odin to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082288
However, most people will be better off using something like Titanium Backup.
Thank you!
Ok then who is He?
And where or when or how will i know when it will be ready?
Will it just say update in rom manager?
Or will i have to check out a forum topic?
Is there a link to this information you have posted?
thanks again, and happy rooting.
First, don't use the version from ROM Manager! Last I heard it would mess up your phone. Koush is the author of Clockwork Mod and ROM Manager.
Only way to know is to keep an eye out here for one of the devs to get a working version. imnuts has been reporting the problems to Koush, so he would likely be first to say anything.
You can search for information about it, but there's not a good singular point for this info.
I have a B60 transformer with 3.2.1 HTK75_US_epad-8.6.5.13 on it.
From the reading I have done I should be able to use the 7.1 universal root kit.
My questions are
Where can I get the stock ROM to unroot it and set back to stock if I need to?
Other than updating CWM after using the root kit is there anything else I need to do.
I have rooted my EVO 4g phone and swapped out the rom many times so I'm hoping it is a lot like that but I'm new to this and just do not want to make any mistakes. I have tried to search and read as much as I can but there is tons of info on the forum and lots of it does not match or is very old.
Sorry if this is a newbee questions but I have to learn somewhere.
If you have links please post them and I will read that info.
Thanks
Brandon
ASUS has the stock roms on their website, but the 8.6.5.13 probably isn't available yet as a full rom, just an OTA. There are older versions available, such as 8.6.5.9, but I'm not sure if you can flash to an older version with the built in updater. Once the full rom is released, chances are better you can update back to stock. With nvflash and your B60, you can flash anything you want.
I haven't tried it, but I think that that root tool will let you back up before you flash.
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I haven't tried it, but I think that that root tool will let you back up before you flash.
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Yes, it will ask you if you want to backup before you root but it tells you it could take 4 to 5 hours.
I have rooted and unrooted with this below method many times. I don't need to go looking for a stock rom...it simply reverses the procedure as far as I know...look into it...now if you go for a custom rom your on your own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198303
Thank you everyone for your answers, I did the full backup which did not take long as I had done a reset before I started and wiped everything.
The root was painless and is done.
For now I think I will stay with the stock ROM but I'm now going to look for a Kernel to OC it to 1.2-1.4 if I can.
Thanks again
Brandon
Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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pls4ms said:
Great site and forum you guys have here. I've been lurking in the background for about a month now since converting to Android from Crackberry, studying as much as possible about rooting my new Skyrocket.
I've narrowed down the method that I'll be using shortly to the 3 subject options, and was just wondering, what you recommend and why? I've also watched videos on each, and they all seem like they work and I can handle the task. But I want to avoid tripping the flash counter or getting myself in other more complicated trouble that I'd need your help with.
My plan is to root, flash CWM, do a Nandroid backup, then just freeze some things up using Titanium Backup to start. I think I said that right. Maybe not. But that's the plan for now, without new ROMs or kernels. Thanks in advance for any suggestions, and I apologize for the rookie questions. Again, great forum.
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I'm no expert but when I updated from 2.3.5 to 2.3.6 using S.O.C was no longer an option. I had to use the all power ODIN. link
But I suggest reading, googling, and rereading steps until you're confident of what to do without guessing if you're doing it right or not.
BTW, don't discount ROMs, they will make you love your phone more than you thought possible. And with the initial Nandroid bup you can always revert...
Good luck...
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cdshepherd said:
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
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This^^^^ I use odin and only odin
After a few days of research and trying to figure out how not to trip the flash counter, this is the best way. Huge thumbs up for the suggestion!
Wow. That is really great information. Thank you! I had written off the Odin method, as it seemed a little complicated for a rookie like myself -- hence why it wasn't included in the subject options.
But after reading what you had to say, it makes complete sense. The Odin method is the only way to make a complete backup (using CWM) of my truly unrooted device, where the other methods, the mirror (backup) would be of a rooted device so a restore back to stock would be more difficult. Correct?
I just read all 20 pages of the link you supplied, and it seems I've got a pretty good understanding of what to do and what not to do. Will give it a whirl today and let you know. By the way, someone posted a video which talks about how the superuser.zip file is not necessary -- this is not true if you aren't putting on a new ROM. Which I am not. Just a heads up for anyone else out there looking at it. Thanks again man, you nailed it.
cdshepherd said:
I can tell you a little trick that might save you from ever having to trip you flash counter. Use the odin method of rooting, its in the dev section. After you push cwm with odin, boot into cwm and make a backup of stock unrooted. Then proceed to flashing the superuser zip and rooting. Take the stock unrooted backup and save it to your desktop or something. Now your rooted with cwm . If you ever have to restore to stock you can restore the unrooted stock backup, then push the stock recovery with odin and presto your back to stock without tripping counter. Only works if you backup stock firmware before rooting. Also I've noticed that usually when I softbrick I can get away with just flashing cwm in odin, booting into recovery and proceeding from there. If I could start all over that's how ide do it I think. Just an idea. Also this method gets you farmiliar with odin, which you'll desperately need someday, if you already know how to use it you'll be set. A good thing to do is know is how to fix your phone "before" you break it lol(cause you surely will at some point). Then there's no panic when it happens cheers and good luck!
Here's a link to the root method I've suggested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...CWM | ODIN | SGH-I727 and SGH-I727R Skyrocket
And were always here to help if you have questions.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
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A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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Perfect success! Couldn't have gone any better. From the driver installs, to the Odin launch, CWM backup, and finally the SU flash -- each step was flawless. It took 3 tries on the Superuser.zip file before it installed without errors, which was expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I just updated Superuser to the latest version, but now I'm seeing that Busybox seems to be an important add-on now that I'm rooted for some apps to work properly. Agreed? If so, is the popular version on Play the one to download?
Also, whats the best way for me to send the backup I just made from my phone to computer as you mentioned? Where is it located on phone? Thanks again. You've been a huge help, and I'm stoked to be part of the club -- maybe just a junior member still, but learning more each day.
cdshepherd said:
A restore to stock wouldn't necessarily be any more complicated because we have odin files for that too. But it will trip your counter. Sometimes tripping the counter is unavoidable, I pretend like mine doesn't even exist. Let us know if you need any help
Remember to make the nandroid backup of stock unrooted before you flash the superuser.zip.
When you do flash the superuser zip, it might throw up an error and not flash, this is ok, happens to me everytime, just keep trying to install it and eventually she will take:thumbup:
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The cwm backup will probably be on you external SD under clockworkmod>backup. If not on external use internal. Just mount USB storage on your computer. After you get the stock backup off your SD , boot back into recovery and make a backup of your rooted stock firmware if you already haven't. You want to always have atleast one nandroid on your SD in case boo boo's occur.
As for the busy box thing I'm not exactly sure. All I can say on that is if any app request you to update it just allow it to. Maybe try the market app you mentioned. I'm not entirely too sure. Also maybe consider flashing a rom. You'll have that rooted backup on your SD you can restore whenever you'd like.
Glad everything went well for you. That's a good example of what reading before attempting does. Good job
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Thanks again for the help and props. More success yesterday; moved the full stock ROM (unrooted) Nandroid to my computer, and then made another Nandroid of my rooted stock ROM. That too I put on the computer, but also left a copy my SD card.
Installed Titanium Backup Pro, and am now studying up on which .APK files I can safely freeze. Found a spreadsheet from the SG2 forum, and I'm guessing it's applicable for our device. Would post the link, but I'm not allowed to yet.
Lastly, I picked up the Nexus 2100 mah battery for which I'll be installing shortly as well. Starting to get more tuned up now, but you are right, once all this is complete I'll look at some custom ROM's as well. I guess freezing all of these files wouldn't really be necessary if I put on a new ROM anyway. Oh well. Baby steps.
samsung infuse
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
infuseal said:
bought rooted Samsung infuse, but can not get my contacts.
At&t phone.
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You just brought a year old thread back to life and your talking about an infuse which has nothing to do with the skyrocket. Search on the infuse topics.
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So on my last version of this phone I rooted with superoneclick which led to my nv_data.bin getting messed up and my IMEI turned to 000000000000000 from which I was never able to get it back because I wasn't aware to back up my efs folder. but the phone still functioned. Well I was having hardware issues with that phone and got a replacement through warranty. Now I want to root again but I want to back up the nv_data.bin files first. I can't seem to find a way to back those up though without being rooted first. Can any one give me a quick tip here so I can quit going in circles.
Thanks, Ryan
I do not know of a way to backup the efs folder without root. I am not sure that it can be done. I would follow the rooting steps STEP BY STEP and backup the efs before you do anything. Using superoneclick there should not be anything that could mess up your IMEI.
hmmm...I just seem to have found this and I think this will do exactly what I need it to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
Don't use superoneclick next time. Use a custom kernel. Look for a guide on flashing using a heimdall one-click file (lumin wrote up a good one). After that you will be rooted and on stock. You can make your efs backup that way, or you can install something that makes an efs backup. Basically any recent rom that uses my AROMA installer will do this for you.
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haha you found the guide! I see he has an efs backup section too, definitely do what he says there and you'll be good.
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Don't use superoneclick next time. Use a custom kernel. Look for a guide on flashing using a heimdall one-click file (lumin wrote up a good one). After that you will be rooted and on stock. You can make your efs backup that way, or you can install something that makes an efs backup. Basically any recent rom that uses my AROMA installer will do this for you.
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haha you found the guide! I see he has an efs backup section too, definitely do what he says there and you'll be good.
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are you referring to this?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358498
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EDIT okay, thanks
I've been sitting on my stock Rogers Infuse 4G since I got it, hoping that they would at the very least release an update to ICS. I've pretty much given up all hope, especially now since the Infuse was listed as one of the "violators" in the recent lawsuit. So, in giving up there, I've started to try and get up to speed with what's available in terms of custom ROMs for the Infuse, etc...
I previously had a Captivate (seems like I pick the wrong phones) and have kept that one stock as well (now my wife's phone) aside from the official 2.3.3 update Samsung came out with for it. I checked in here once in a while to try and keep track of some of the updates as I thought about going for a custom rom, but I never had the balls to try anything (I've only ever flashed one phone in my life, and it was bought 2nd hand for $20 ) since I actually *must have* a working phone due to having a kid (daycare calls are kind of important!). However checking today, it seems like I am totally out of the loop and I just don't have the time to try and wade through thousands of pages on various threads to find out what the current "ways" are and such... but I know what I want to achieve so I'm hoping you folks are nice enough to at the very least give me a "search you noob" and point me to some threads :silly:
Since I'm totally stock, from what I'm gathering I think I need (and really I more of need a complete checklist of things to do rather than a "do it for me" kind of thing) to do is:
1) jot down my modem and apn settings and such (already done)
2) back up everything i need, pop out sd card (know how to do this)
3) wipe/clear to factory default (... and this)
4) back up the current rom - everything in case I want to return back to exactly the way the phone is stock
5) figure out what i need to do to flash CWM or something so I have the necessary recovery mode options?
6) flash to ICS (since from what I gather, I need to do that if I want to go to JB)?
7) follow instructions I found on the unnoficial CM10 JB thread to flash to JB
?) flash a new kernel? (is this done already during a rom flash; are there any new kernels?)
As commented, I can figure out 1-3 since I'm not stupid, but I have no idea what is even needed to do 4, nor do I know exactly all the tiny, necessary, steps to do the rest after that... especially since reading some things it seems like most of this is for AT&T users and since I'm on Rogers with a I997R (I assume the R means Rogers), I don't want to mess up my modem or other things to prevent the phone working for me... and these are the steps I'm hoping people can help me with.
So far, in prep, I've noted my phone info (basically everything in Phone settings) and I can back up all my apps and such that I care about, and I've downloaded the unofficial CM10 JB download and the Google apps apk as well, and on the same thread was a link to a 1-click ICS flash or something... so I got that too. Since I want to end up with JB, I'm not too concerned (or should I be?) with it being AT&T stuff to get to ICS, since it's the JB flash that I'd really want to ensure works for me.
Is anyone willing to help me out? I really wish I didn't have to be the "next loser" to make a thread like this but I just haven't had the time to be able to keep up with all the info going around (voodoo mods and whatever else?!) to be able to make sense of all this myself!
Thank you!
This looks like a good place for you to start
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1197248&highlight=how+to+root+rogers
First thing to do of course is read, read, read. Understanding what you are doing and why you are doing it is the most valuable resource you can have.
The gist of it is though: to install the custom updated roms, you need root. For Rogers infuse users that is very easy to do; all you have to do is install a rooted kernel in odin. After you do that you make a nandroid (and/or EFS) backup, and install whatever rom you want. CM9 and CM10 have their own kernel, so don't worry about that.
adfurgerson posted the step-by-step guide above me, although the links in the OP may be down. I have the mirrors here: http://minus.com/moAvVibed/
the 3 files in there are:
Odin_Infused_Gingerbread_Kernel_v1.zip - This is the rooted kernel you are flashing
Odin_Stock_Rogers_UXKG3_Kernel.zip - This is the stock rogers unrooted kernel if you want to unroot and go COMPLETELY stock for whatever reason (I doubt you will ever need to use this tbh)
Odin_UXKG3_rooted_no_bootloaders_v2.zip - The stock Rogers FIRMWARE. If you ever mess up you use this to "start from scratch". You will still be rooted though if you don't use the stock kernel above.
So yeah, just flash the kernel in odin as described in the above thread and you will have root + cwm.
From there you reboot into cwm (turn off, turn on holding vol+ and vol- buttons) and make a nandroid backup of your stock rogers rom (or an EFS backup with the infuse toolkit: click here), flash CM9 as per the instructions in the OP, and finally CM10 as per the instructions in the OP.
Also remember:
1. The infuse is almost impossible to hard brick. The only real way to do so is to improperly flash bootloaders, which a rogers infuse user will never have to do. Only AT&T users coming from Froyo have to do it. So keep that in mind.
2. On the chance that you get soft-bricked (screen won't go past samsung logo for example) you can always go back to flashing the stock rom/rooted kernel again in odin and start all over again.
The only thing that I can add to Threi's excellent reply is to mention the one click to ICS. It is in the first post of Scott's CM10 thread,it should give you the ICS recovery that is needed to flash JB without flashing a full ICS ROM.
I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).
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I suppose I should have mentioned that I also have rooted my phone already (used SuperOneClick, worked fine). Is there any reason why I would use that "rooted kernel" versus just having root on my phone (ie, having su installed... dunno what else it did, I don't think it did anything to my kernel)?
I guess my biggest unknown is all the backup processes that can be done and how to do them? Is "nandroid" a one stop shop for doing backups of everything? Although there's the complete stock Rogers rom linked above (which I'll nab anyways!), I was thinking I would try to make a complete copy of my own phone (just in case)... I guess next step is to search for "nanroid"
Are there any other backup tools I could use/check out (not apk backup tools... those are easily located in the app store, or performed with adb myself).
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Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.
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Flashing a kernel is how you obtain cwm which allows you to flash custom ROMs(cwm is clockwork mod recovery). A nandroid is a backup you create in cwm that is copy of your phone that will return your phone to the exact state it was at the time backup was made.
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Aha, perfect description. I didn't realize I had to get a new kernel to have CWM... and I'm guessing because of signing and such, that a custom kernel (with CWM) is required in order to flash a non-signed rom, which is why you couldn't just do it on stock, right?
Ok, so now armed with that info that clears up a lot, I guess I have just one question left (which I can probably find the answer to with some searching). I have read what that voodoo lagfix is and is this something that is standard now on all kernels (because if it can cause issues, I'd rather just have a kernel without it)? Are there any "rooted" kernels without the lagfix built in so I don't have to remember about disabling the lagfix? ...or is there a way to install CWM on to my current kernel?
*edit* Ok, I realize I might be a bit too picky about the voodoo lagfix thing. I found two good threads on dealing with Rogers specifically, so I'll read over those (and suck it up about voodoo) and see how it goes. Since my vacation got unfortunately cancelled due to a sick kid, I have some time to experiment this weekend... hopefully ending up with JB on my phone!
Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.
adfurgerson said:
Glad to see your on you're on the way to JB. After you install a custom kernel be sure to make a nandroid in the backup and restore option of CWM before you flash a ROM. That is like your safety net, if you wiped everything and had a bad download that wouldn't install, you will have a nandroid to restore.
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Yep, just flashed the rooted cwm kernel and performed a backup. I read somewhere that you can/should back up your efs in case you lose your imei... so I'm just going to quickly look in to that, then i wipe and do some flashes to jb... shouldn't take long hopefully!
Ok, I seem to be stuck at trying to get the one-click ICS install to work. I've got the EZUpdater package to ensure I have the right drivers, yet everything I try with the one-click seems to tell me that the drivers aren't installed and then launches an installer which also doesn't seem to detect the phone... yet EZUpdater will run fine, etc...
I'm just about to reboot and launch device driver in a mode to list all hidden/previously installed devices and nuke them from history to hopefully purge my system of all traces of any drivers and install EZUpdater one more time to get the drivers installed.
Any reason why my phone wouldn't show up in this one-click (it uses heimdall or whatever) program, but seems to work in most everything else (adb even runs fine)?
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Got it all working! I couldn't get the one-click ICS to work for the life of me... it just didn't see the drivers even though they were there and working. I guessed maybe it had to do with me running Windows 7 x64 and having x64 drivers, but the one-click maybe being 32bit. I even tried installing the x64 Java JRE but didn't seem to make any difference.
I ended up having to flash CM9 which worked fine, then going to CM10. Had no issues doing that... wish I had just tried that before since that one-click wasted hours of my day and got me somewhat frustrated!