There is a battery conditioning procedure recommended by HTC - probably would work with any battery
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
The above is a cut-and-paste from the G2x forum, which also was a cut-and-paste.
Is this for any HTC device or for Sensation or any LiION in general?
Is this only for one time or everyday?
Personally, I don't think it will work.
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one time.
it takes a while to do so do the 8 hours overnight, but it did improve my battery life a lot and same with everyone in the g2x forum who tried it. also it was said to do a factory reset before doing this procedure. with a full charge. but it was not part of the procedure that HTC made , the OP post. a factory reset is always good to do on a new phone IMHO though.
This should definitely work. Batteries develop a 'memory' and I always go through a similar process when I first get new devices. I discharge them completely. Then turn them off to charge completely and then discharge completely once more before normal use.
Battery "memory" only applies to the Nickel Cadmium days. Lithium Ion batteries do not have memory effects:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/lithium-ion-battery.htm
"If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined."
that is correct. li-ion batteries do not have "the memory effect". but this does seem to help setup the battery for best performance. it's been tested and tried at the g2x forum where i came from, and this method was released from HTC. someone just pasted it over on the g2x general forums since initially the battery had some serious issues. try it and repost. whats the worst that could happen? full battery?
This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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Plus, what is HTC doing making battery recommendations for LG devices (G2x)?
i tried this, it helps. here is the original post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 it was from an evo4g user
ps. i think that the phone some how is not giving the % of the battery correctly. i have notice if i charge the phone and as soon it says its charge i unplug it, the battery drains quickly. but if i let it plugged about an hour after its says that is fully charge the power consumption its really good. it last in average like 16 hours with normal use.
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This is called bump charging ave last time I checked nobody officially endorses it because it ruins the lifespan of LI-Ion batteries...
Cheek your sources dude. If HTC recommended it you wouldn't have to cut and paste it from forum posts to disseminate the idea. They would just put it in the User's Manuals for their devices.
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
i think you're right bro. just read that link. seems like that appears like the original. more info there too. im gonna save that. thanks
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if you have a problem then don't do it. im reposting because it works for me and it was for HTC. it probably did come from the evo forum because it was a repost on the G2x. they did not say anything about a g2x. if you trolls have a problem then ignore the thread, move on, and F*ck off. im here to help people with what worked for me, and many many others. get off of XDA. we don't need people like you bringing the site down. i've known too many devs who bounced because of people like you. get out or shut up. especially if you're just here to argue with no evidence of your own.
i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either. he may have to original post. ive seen this a few places. and everything but the last line on the OP is copied and pasted from a g2x forum post.
p.s. i didn't say it was officially their stand point. my understanding is it was something people at HTC and tried and tired and seemed to work. actually it sorta says that in the OP in the blue at the bottom....
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Actually you are the troll and ACTUALLY your post does say that it's recommended by HTC and actually this isn't news. It's bump charging and actually it means that you'll have to replace your battery sooner. And actually it's one thing to say that something works and one thing to say that it's a recommendation from the manufacturer of the phone.
Trollaz dey gon troll
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This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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i apologize to the others posters. nothing meant towards the other people, just the 2 who decided to waste time being trolls. not the evo4g guy either.
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Are you calling me a troll because I post a link about battery facts?
Hey OP, thanks for the post. It all depends on your preference anyway. Btw, do you really think we needa factory reset our device? Cos I got a lot of apps installed in my device which are not from market. Thanks in advance.
zmfl said:
This procedure does make your battery last longer that one time you bump-charged it, but it unfortunately shortens the batteries life...
Here it is in detail:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
No need to fight about it
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Very mixed bag "analysis". For so much effort he failed to answer the most basic questions.
Does bump charging the battery once provide a capacity advantage that persists? If so, how much of an advantage? Is it the 15% quoted figure? If doing it once only lasts a while then how often should it be done? And how much would that actually shorten the battery life? If the normal battery life is 1 year, and I can get 15% more capacity each day but shorten the life by 2 months I would bump charge. If it cuts the battery life in half I would still be tempted, since OEM replacement batteries aren't that expensive.
What would be useful is a graph of bump charging frequency, percent increased storage capacity, and battery life. With that information we could make rational decisions.
When we can root our phones, it's best to charge the phone on the new rom and delete batterystats.bin and let it drain to 0%
That way android knows what is 100% and what is 0% and how many volts it is.
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i wish we had more control of our profiles, posts, threads. that way i could ignore/ban/delete people who act like that.
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I think that you should edit your OP so that it does not say that bump charging is recommended by HTC, especially because it can and will lead to damaging your LI-Ion battery's overall lifespan and because it simply isn't true.
This is akin to creating a thread called "HTC phone improvement procedure" and then telling everyone that HTC recommends that they flush their phones down the toilet. Most people probably wouldn't believe you but it'd be pretty terrible if someone did simply because they believe that an experienced forum member wouldn't post mistruths that could lead to damaging their device or components of it, and claim that HTC recommends it.
So, I have been using one battery that came with my first NS4G that I had to return because of a softkey issue. I forgot that I had the original battery for the second one. The one in it now doesn't seem to be breaking in and giving excellent battery life like everyone else is talking about. So, my question is: How do I cycle both of these batteries(the newer one I would probably have better luck with) to get better life out of both of them and swap out later if need be?
I don't know much about breaking in new lithium ion batteries, but most of the googling I have done ends up being a site that just wants to sell me their batteries instead of inform me about how they work and how to properly care for them. I also think it may be a little more device specific in this case.
There is no need to break in LiIon batteries that I am aware of.
Since you had bad luck googling:
http://batteryuniversity.com/ is an interesting read any day.
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There is no need to break in LiIon batteries that I am aware of.
Since you had bad luck googling:
http://batteryuniversity.com/ is an interesting read any day.
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That is chocked full of great information, thank you. I didn't see anything about breaking it in either, I have just seen several posts that talk about it. Maybe I will just use the newer battery for now and see if there is a difference in a few weeks.
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I read a lot of different battery info on these sites and I wanted to point interested parties to "Battery University" where they cover Lithium Ion batteries in great detail. I picked up this site on one of the forums a long time ago and haven't seen in mentioned in a long time.
If you just want a quick summary on how you should be treating your Infinity's battery go here:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
You can then look over the links in the left column to learn even more about how the batteries work and how best to take care of yours.
Key points I picked up were: (1) Never let your battery run down very low and (2) try to charge your battery with the device off. I think it's hard to charge with it off, especially phones, but it was interesting to learn why.
Hope that helps!
(I am going to post this on the other forum I frequent)
This is just a personal survey.
Hello, could you please comment the following:
I will be using SoT as basis since it is the most used battery usage reference.
You can also include some details on how you use it.
Best Approx. SoT (Screen-On Time) from 100% to 15% battery
Variant (D820 or D821)
Date Bought
CPU Binning (optional)
My thought is, that battery usage isn't only based on how the user use it, but from the device itself.
I want to conduct this survey to know if what I think is correct.
Thanks a lot!
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If you wanna test your theory you need to get a control group of devices. They must all be used in an IDENTICAL manor. This survey won't help you prove a thing other than people use their phones differently. But we already know that don't we.
While @Lethargy does have a point, the goal of this thread is a different one, which is why I'll keep it open.
But please make sure to keep it on topic and don't let it become similar to the already existing thread.
Here is my original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/help/watch-awful-battery-frontier-lte-t3504484
Originally I thought I was going to return simply because the thing didn't last a full day. Boy was I wrong, after four days, I am now losing maybe 25 percent a day on mostly Bluetooth. This with also text messaging and making a few phone calls when needed.
Why wouldn't you just reply to the original thread?
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Why wouldn't you just reply to the original thread?
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It's his apology hahaha
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Can I tell you what's top of my list as the most frustrating topic posted on any of the XDA forums? It's a post about how bad the battery life is on a newly launched or newly purchased device. Why can't people understand that for the first few days of battery charge cycles there will always be a 'bedding in' or calibration period for the battery to find its optimum charge. Coupled with the fact that a new device will get far more attention for the first few days, with setting it up, showing it off and generally playing around with it more than you normally would.
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