[Q] Unlocking the bootloader wipes SD storage: YES OR NO??? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm seeing different answers in different threads. I need to reinstall 2.3.4 but have to go back to earlier version first. ClockworkMod was suggested to me but the only way to get that is to unlock the bootloader or root. And both of them wipe the SD storage, right?

jrocka01 said:
I'm seeing different answers in different threads. I need to reinstall 2.3.4 but have to go back to earlier version first. ClockworkMod was suggested to me but the only way to get that is to unlock the bootloader or root. And both of them wipe the SD storage, right?
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Yes. Copy everything off and then copy it back over after unlocking.
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krohnjw said:
Yes. Copy everything off and then copy it back over after unlocking.
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How can I copy it? I lost USB connectivity, from the manual 2.3.4 install, which is why I'm trying to go back to an older version in the first place. No SD card on the NS. Do you know of another way?
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[Q] How do I backup

How do I backup my phone before doing a hard reset, unlocking the boot loader or installing a ROM?
use something like mybackup pro and post in the correct section next time
In Cwm there is a back up restore option
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yes, But the OP doesnt have CWM yet, To get it he will need to unlock bootloader, Which resets the phone.
azzledazzle said:
yes, But the OP doesnt have CWM yet, To get it he will need to unlock bootloader, Which resets the phone.
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does it also delete the "sd card" contents?
I don't think that the stock recovery supports nandroid backup. you'll need at least an unlocked bootloader and a costum recovery go make a nandroid Backup. So Only way is crossing fingers when flashing recovery.
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does it also delete the "sd card" contents?
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No just a factory reset. Meaning all apps and data will be gone...
Or so ive heard anyway, I unlocked mine as soon as i received it, so i wouldnt have noticed if it was wiped or not lol
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[Q] Unable to access SD card after flashing MIUI

Hey all -
I've done a fair amount of reading regarding this issue, to no avail. My programming knowledge is limited but I do have experience rooting and flashing ROMs on another device. Anyway....Rooted, unlocked bootloader, flashed CWM 5.8.3.1. Following this, I downloaded MIUI.us v4 2.6.22 ICS on my SD card, factory reset, and flashed it via CWM.
Seems to work alright, but I cannot access my SD card from anywhere. MIUI won't recognize it, CWM says it can't be mounted. I somehow created a partition on the SD through CWM, but it did not help. I tried re flashing CWM, with similar results. Not sure as to what the next step would be - re flash MIUI, relock bootloader/flash stock RUU...? Any help is much appreciated.
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dominatordave said:
Hey all -
I've done a fair amount of reading regarding this issue, to no avail. My programming knowledge is limited but I do have experience rooting and flashing ROMs on another device. Anyway....Rooted, unlocked bootloader, flashed CWM 5.8.3.1. Following this, I downloaded MIUI.us v4 2.6.22 ICS on my SD card, factory reset, and flashed it via CWM.
Seems to work alright, but I cannot access my SD card from anywhere. MIUI won't recognize it, CWM says it can't be mounted. I somehow created a partition on the SD through CWM, but it did not help. I tried re flashing CWM, with similar results. Not sure as to what the next step would be - re flash MIUI, relock bootloader/flash stock RUU...? Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks
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One x doesn't have a memory card..if your unable to access your inbuilt storage....to fix this...relock your bootloader, flash ruu, you should be good then
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jags_the1 said:
One x doesn't have a memory card..if your unable to access your inbuilt storage....to fix this...relock your bootloader, flash ruu, you should be good then
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The built in storage is still seen as an sd card by the OS. That's why its path is /sdcard.
But yeah, the first thing I would do would be to relock your bootloader and run an RUU.
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Thanks for the replies, will give it a shot

[Q] Rooted my verizon s3 with instructions on this forum and now I'm am stuck

Everything was fine with the root however I used a font app installer that got the phone stuck in a boot loop (on the rainbow screen). How do I get back to rooted JB?
Did you do a back up of your original rom? You need to get back into recovery...
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No I didn't. I didn't see that in the instructions or I missed it. Any thoughts on how to get back to rooted JB?
Well if the font app got you into the boot loop then I don't think you lost root, I would get back into recovery wipe cache and hit reboot... See if that works... Good luck
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Unfortunately, I tried that. I think I did an accidental factory reset too but nothing has brought it back from the boot rainbow screen.
Did you unlock using EZ Unlock v1.2? You only mentioned that you rooted.
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No, I didn't use that. I followed the instructions to root found here (worked no problem until I met that $&#^%#& app) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439 I think I can reset using Odin I just don't know what to use
Aight, well did you unlock the bootloader? Your response dictates the suggested route to resolve this.
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I did follow the instructions to unlock the bootloader
If that's the case then you just need to boot into recovery and flash a rom. If you were running just stock rooted & unlocked VRBLK3, it's easier to just flash a rooted stock rom like the official VRBLK3 leak here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034118
Try just flashing that, without wiping, then boot into the rom.
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If you were on a custom rom, just reflash that rom via recovery and you'll be fine. Unfortunately you lose all your settings of you wipe data in recovery so try reflashing either option without wiping if you absolutely need to try recovering whatever data already exists in your current rom. If this doesn't work, format data, wipe cache then flash the rom.
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I will give it a shot and let you know. Thanks so much! I was on stock ROM btw.
Cool, this should work
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Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?
nctiger said:
Ok, this is a zip file. Does it have to be on the phone? If so, how do I put it there?
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Yes it does need to be there. If you have an sdcard just drag and drop onto it directly then flash in your custom recovery. Conversely, you should be able to boot into recovery and try connecting your phone to the laptop then dragging the zip over.
The longer method will be to Odin flash VRBLK3 and start all over from there.
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I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.
nctiger said:
I am in Clockwork Mod recovery and my comp is not recognizing my phone as it did earlier.
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I don't use CWM but did you go to Mounts and Storage and select "Mount /sdcard"? Does it connect now?
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I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either
nctiger said:
I went there but it didn't seem to do anything when I selected mount sdcard and conversely didn't connect either
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Aight well since that failed, you have to do this the long way: Odin flash the VRBLK3 rooted image from your laptop onto your phone. Choose one of the two images for VRBLK3 and follow the directions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436
Edit: I realize I didn't ask but do you have an sd card?
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That worked! Thanks so much. Now, what is the best practice for backing things up so that I don't have this problem again? Should I root first then backup? Do I still have to unlock bootloader? Just wanting to handle this properly from this point forward.
It should be rooted already if you installed the Odin files from MrRobinson thread. It should come with either SuperSU or SuperUser correct? You also should still be unlocked but you can re-unlock using EZ Unlock v.1.2 from the following thread and you're undeniably unlocked. You'll hear a brief audio message if it worked.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/32456-app-920-ez-unlock-14-easiest-way-to-unlock-your-bootloader/
Also, please perform a nandroid back in CWM so you have something stable to return to if something goes awry in the future. That backup would have cut all this down to one simple step. You don't need to be unlocked to perform a nandroid however you do need to be rooted with a custom recovery.
Lastly, perform an IMEI backup using the "Comprehensive IMEI Backup" thread in the dev section. Do this and save the resulting Synergy zip from backup methods A and B in more than one place not on your phone. This is more so a precaution because flashing things in recovery can and may result in a complete loss of connection with Verizon.
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[Q] How Do You "Start From Scratch"?

Been noticing some quirky behavior with my trusty ol' S2 lately.
The usual factory reset/wipe hasn't seemed to help.
Is there a way to basically "nuke" everything on the internal card, comparable to doing a format/OS reinstall on a PC?
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?
vexille said:
Thanks!
Is this a "wise" route to take or are is there another way to sort out the "gremlins"?
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Yeah it's wise. Wipe everything and Odin stock.
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jd1639 said:
Yes, odin the stock rom and wipe the internal sd card. See vincom's stickies in the development forum on how to return to stock. Read them carefully and more than once. Doing it wrong can brick your phone
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Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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jd1639 said:
Use twrp to wipe the internal. It's a different wipe than factory reset or the caches. Flashing with odin will not wipe the card. If you have a card reader you could take it out and format it that way.
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Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?
vexille said:
Thanks.
Currently have CWM on the S2 (but have used TWRP on my tablets).
Should I replace CWM or does it have the same functionality?
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Cwm had an option to wipe/format the internal card too I believe.
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Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yeah
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vexille said:
Last noob question (until I bork something up royally...)
Does the Odin/Stock ROM process remove CWM/TWRP?
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Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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vexille said:
Read through Vincom's excellent guide a couple of times and I didn't see anything about wiping the internal SD card.
Does that happen as part of the process of going back to stock?
I'm guessing I want to remove the card from the micro card slot before starting?
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from my restoring to stock sticky
5. FACTS AND TROUBLESHOOTING ON FLASHING STOCK FIRMWARES
FLASHING FIRMWARES DOES NOT WIPE YOUR SDCARDS, INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL: note: back them up just in case.
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jd1639 said:
Yes it does, it puts the stock recovery back on. If you want it back you'll have to flash that with odin too.
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Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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vexille said:
Is it better to load it via Odin or through the CWM app on the Play store or is that also 6 of one half dozen of another?
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If you already have cwm and want twrp, load it thru cwm. But if you odin a stock rom cwm won't be there anymore.
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if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET
vincom said:
if you want cwm on stock the app from play wont work, same goes for twrp
best or only way to install cwm/twrp on stock is through odin
once either are installed you can flash either one through the custom recovery using the zip files for the recoveries
read about the recoveries in the Q&a forum sticky [HOWTO] THE ULTIMATE NEWB GUIDE > | INSTALL CWM/TWRP | ROOT | UNROOT |the SKYROCKET
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OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?
vexille said:
OK, so I've read and re-read through all the steps and here's what I think I need to do...
1. Flash stock ATT radio using CWM (currently have CM10 and my understanding is that going back to stock via Odin will not restore radio).
2. Return to stock via Odin process.
3. Install TWRP via Odin process.
4. Return to joys of custom ROMs...
Did I miss something or have the order wonky?
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you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.
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you need to read more slowly lol, flashing stock firmware via odin restores everything including radio but flashing it first wont hurt if its for that firmware, but yes the steps are right but read the op of rom to see which radio works for said rom.
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Somewhere in one of the guides I could swear there was a statement that going from CM10 back to stock would not reset the radio.
Anywho...
The process worked like a charm; many thanks to everyone who helped out.
The stock ROM loaded perfectly and I got TWRP on instead of CWM; I actually like it better than CWM now that I kicked the tires a bit on it.
I ended up putting the stock radio back over the CM10 version - not sure if it's just my area or AT&T voodoo but it works better for me.
The only gremlin this didn't fix was a problem with Pandora streaming. I stream it via Bluetooth in my car and when I skip or "thumbs down" about 50% time the stream signal is broken.
Bluetooth still shows it connected but it no longer plays and the phone audio is borked as well.
I'm wondering if this is a Pandora issue or maybe a CM10 and Pandora quirk..

[Q] Fastest way to flash back to stock 4.1.2

What way is the fastest and most secure to flash back to the stock samsung 4.1.2 image? Is there anyway I can use fastboot to format my entire phone and then push the stock image to it? I think there is an easy way to skip the flashcounter and ODIN. I am on CM10.2.1 (stable) and after countless ROM flashes and going back between 4.3 and 4.4 I have so many folders and directories and partitions it is crazy. How can I wipe the entire phone so nothing at all is on it and go back to TW 4.1.2.
A link to a guide would be helpful also. I can't seem to find one.
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With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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Thank you so much man. Trying it tonight.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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It doesn't mention it anywhere. Do I need to worry about triangle away coming from CM10 back to TW4.1?
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ErikFry said:
It doesn't mention it anywhere. Do I need to worry about triangle away coming from CM10 back to TW4.1?
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Depends if you have any ticks on the counter if you do you should triangle away before you odin. Are you planing on staying on touchwiz or will you be rooting unlocking and flashing a new rom? because if that is the case you could just wipe internal sd in twrp or clockwork mod then flash your desired rom on a nice clean internal sd.
ThePagel said:
Depends if you have any ticks on the counter if you do you should triangle away before you odin. Are you planing on staying on touchwiz or will you be rooting unlocking and flashing a new rom? because if that is the case you could just wipe internal sd in twrp or clockwork mod then flash your desired rom on a nice clean internal sd.
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I plan on flashing cleanrom8.1
If I wipe internal SD in recovery will it fix all extra file paths and partition problems I had before? And does wiping internal SD wipe the recovery?
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ErikFry said:
I plan on flashing cleanrom8.1
If I wipe internal SD in recovery will it fix all extra file paths and partition problems I had before? And does wiping internal SD wipe the recovery?
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It will do a format so as long as the partitions are the correct size it should fix any problems. Recovery will stay just as it was before the wipe. When you go to do the wipe just click on everything but external sd. I cant remember if it says format or wipe but do it a few times before you flash cleanrom and you should be on empty canvas to write your rom to. Just be warned that there is a format data option in twrp I believe (been a long time since I have seen a unmodified version) that will erase everything including external sd so don't use that. Also dont forget to have clean rom on your external before you start!
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ooooohhhhh I hope you see this! If it only has sd card as a option in the wipe menu that is probably your external sd.
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If it only has sd card as a option in the wipe menu that is probably your external sd.
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So make sure I'm just wiping internal SD right?
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ErikFry said:
So make sure I'm just wiping internal SD right?
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correct. I am a worry wart and remove my sd before I wipe. not necessary but i cant format it if its not inserted.
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correct. I am a worry wart and remove my sd before I wipe. not necessary but i cant format it if its not inserted.
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Hopefully you are still awake. I wiped internal memory and did a factory reset for safety (don't worry I removed my SD card haha) And I flashed CleanRom8.1 zip and it said it was successfully flashed. When I rebooted the device I got the "please enter pin or password for this encrypted device" message with an area to type in. This phone has never been encrypted. What do I do? If I wiped internal why would anything other than what I flash be on the phone.
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Hopefully you are still awake. I wiped internal memory and did a factory reset for safety (don't worry I removed my SD card haha) And I flashed CleanRom8.1 zip and it said it was successfully flashed. When I rebooted the device I got the "please enter pin or password for this encrypted device" message with an area to type in. This phone has never been encrypted. What do I do? If I wiped internal why would anything other than what I flash be on the phone.
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Never heard of that happening. Is it before it starts to boot?
SlimSnoopOS said:
With what you are asking for, you want Odin. Odin flash this file and it will wipe your phone clean and restore you to stock, unrooted VRBMF1 4.1.2. You will want to root and unlock. Do not take any OTAs when your phone boots up. Follow section 5 of Droidstyle's guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
Just use the tar file I linked below in Odin:
Only flash if it ends in .tar or .tar.md5, here is the VRBMF1 tar:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23134718111254196
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SlimSnoop I'm wondering if you have any suggestions for my most recent conundrum. Thank you for your help!
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Never heard of that happening. Is it before it starts to boot?
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I wiped Internal memory, wiped data&cache, reboot....bootscreen.....la la la la...."Enter PIN or Password" screen appears. For a brief moment my statusbar is shown. The phone appears to be in airplane mode. It does not show the proper time either.
ErikFry said:
I wiped Internal memory, wiped data&cache, reboot....bootscreen.....la la la la...."Enter PIN or Password" screen appears. For a brief moment my statusbar is shown. The phone appears to be in airplane mode. It does not show the proper time either.
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I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
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I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
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Did not work, still there. But Im trying kitkat again. Quantum seems very stable. The wiping internal drive helped with my other issues though.
ErikFry said:
SlimSnoop I'm wondering if you have any suggestions for my most recent conundrum. Thank you for your help!
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I have seen this issue before but mostly that encyption popup is displayed in TWRP. I don't recall seeing any one method that ultimately worked for people. If you search for "encrypt" in this Q/A forum, there are 7 pages of results with a lot of inconclusive results or workarounds. I've skimmed the first 3 pages and haven't seen anything that stands out but I've seen similar issue reported by a few others.
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I have seen this issue before but mostly that encyption popup is displayed in TWRP. I don't recall seeing any one method that ultimately worked for people. If you search for "encrypt" in this Q/A forum, there are 7 pages of results with a lot of inconclusive results or workarounds. I've skimmed the first 3 pages and haven't seen anything that stands out but I've seen similar issue reported by a few others.
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Thank you for looking. You would think with an internal memory wipe, factory reset and system wipe it wouldn't be encrypted. Funny thing is...I've never encrypted it either, maybe touchwiz is not for me. Life is telling me something haha.
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ThePagel said:
I did a quick Google and it looks like for some reason or another that rom installed encrypted. A factory reset should fix your problem.
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Thank you for your help Pagel!
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Erik, did you have any luck going from 4.3 back to 4.1? I'm getting the firmware upgrade error.
Any thoughts?

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