Gtalk video chat requires wifi for T-Mobile users? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, checking how many tmo nexus s users are experiencing the same thing.
Manually updated from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4. Gtalk will only initiate video chat if I'm on wifi. What gives? This was supposed to work via 3g as well...
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yup, asking me for wifi to use the video gtalk feature... how lame...
even the google feature video says 'over 3g' ... i think tmo nexus s users are yesterday's news, and we are being thrown to the side...

Google releasing another half baked product?
Not surprised.

meetagrawal said:
Google releasing another half baked product?
Not surprised.
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its not Google, its T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055722
do some research before making false claims.

I don't care who this is attributed to. I'm thinking if there is going to be a possible workaround for this?
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zephiK said:
its not Google, its T-Mobile
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055722
do some research before making false claims.
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I would think that google would disclose that when they said it works over wifi 3G and 4g

meetagrawal said:
I would think that google would disclose that when they said it works over wifi 3G and 4g
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They did.
" You can make calls over a 3G or 4G data network (if your carrier supports it) or over Wi-Fi. "
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matt2053 said:
They did.
" You can make calls over a 3G or 4G data network (if your carrier supports it) or over Wi-Fi. "
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It was a little unclear when I read it. I thought that was referring only to 4g since its not supported on any version except for Sprint. But I can see what you're saying.
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meetagrawal said:
It was a little unclear when I read it. I thought that was referring only to 4g since its not supported on any version except for Sprint. But I can see what you're saying.
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2.3.4 isn't just for the NS, its for every other phone too. they're just slow on updates

It does work well over wifi. But if I'm out using 3G, I'll never get the video call. Hopefully they'll work to get this fixed.
T-Mobile is busy saying that they are the "Fastest 4G network" but they are absolutely horrid here in Greensboro, NC after moving down here from NY.
So I have no issues being on wifi at home. (In need of wifi calling app from Tmo) We need 3G to work!
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It shouldn't be up to t-mobile if you can use it or not ... fring and qik do the same thing just different app
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Lawl, fAIL!

Freaking tmobile.

Cyanogenmod will be our lord and saviour.
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Hope we don't get boned when the OTA comes for handsets sold by Mobilicity. Gtalk with video over 3g is on my must have list.

Are all you all manually updated?
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One of the most disappointing things in quite some time. Someone should force Google to change that, it's false advertising.

This completely goes against everything the Nexus experience is supposed to represent. Shame on you Google

bmstrong said:
One of the most disappointing things in quite some time. Someone should force Google to change that, it's false advertising.
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well its not false advertising, it says 'supported carriers' have it over 3g on their website. its not googles fault, its tmobile. Our only hope of cross platform, pc to phone video chat over 3g is oovoo, who announced nexus is under development to be supported soon. I wouldn't hold my breath over yahoo ffc working any time soon.

stonew5082 said:
well its not false advertising, it says 'supported carriers' have it over 3g on their website. its not googles fault, its tmobile. Our only hope of cross platform, pc to phone video chat over 3g is oovoo, who announced nexus is under development to be supported soon. I wouldn't hold my breath over yahoo ffc working any time soon.
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This!
T-Mobile is blocking this, people! NOT Google!

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About time?

http://www.wirelessgoodness.com/201...pa-software-upgrade-according-to-fcc-filings/
Anyone see this yet?
I know a lot of us take AT&T updates with a grain of salt haha.
What's your thoughts?
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Finally! I guess the BS "testing" by at&t has been completed? LOL
God I hope so. Mine is slow as balls.
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I guess so haha.
At least thats what it looks like.
Im not holding my breath though.
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Ill get excited when I get the update. Til then my speeds are garbage and nothing changes.
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Wow, no wonder my Speeds have sucked eggs... I thought it was a crappy 4G network, but come to find out it's not even a 4G phone yet!
Oh well, shows you how much real in depth research I did... Regardless, I still LOVE this phone!
Well I've been rooted since the second day the Inspire came out. Ive been getting upload seeds of 1.59 on. Hopefully this will increase the overall download and upload speeds.
That article says nothing about 4g. It just says hsupa.
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substance12 said:
That article says nothing about 4g. It just says hsupa.
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Which is currently what AT&T calls "4G" and its currently disabled out of the box by AT&T... on phones marketed with 4G in the name.
CNET confirmed that AT&T plans to release an OTA enabling HSUPA on the Inspire 4G and Atrix 4G sometime in April, but that's still two months after the phones launched.
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I dont know what all the fuss is about. I bought a brand new corvette, was delivered to my home, but it didn't come with the engine installed. The factory is testing the engine for 2 months before they install it in the car! LOL (at&t and their stupid excuses)
lwfb said:
Which is currently what AT&T calls "4G" and its currently disabled out of the box by AT&T... on phones marketed with 4G in the name.
CNET confirmed that AT&T plans to release an OTA enabling HSUPA on the Inspire 4G and Atrix 4G sometime in April, but that's still two months after the phones launched.
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AT&T currently calls HSPA+ 4G... not HSUPA. all this says is that HSUPA will be uncrippled so you'll see upload speeds similar to iphones, nexus ones, and inspires with custom roms.
Ha, no one said this was 4G other than att.
The points that its called inspire 4g... yet 3g phones on the same network have the hsupa enabled already.
Its just ass backwards on att's part.
Its missing the "+" at the moment and it shouldnt have been released with this moniker if they knew it wasnt capable.
Its all marketing, the IMT had to change their definition of 4G to accommodate att and t mobile, but because they have an "lte roadmap" they can call hspa+ 4g.
This phone will always be 3.5g, because it is not lte capable.
It just stings as a customer and employee that they crippled this device and justified it by pricing it at $99 with an upgrade. Its one of those "whats the catch?" kinda things.
The catch is you pay them the same for data as an iphone customer, yet you are not able to get the same quality from the network... on a phone thats newer and marketed as being uber fast.
I liked that corvette example...
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kirk123 said:
I dont know what all the fuss is about. I bought a brand new corvette, was delivered to my home, but it didn't come with the engine installed. The factory is testing the engine for 2 months before they install it in the car! LOL (at&t and their stupid excuses)
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Wait are you serious? lol
Focustom said:
Wait are you serious? lol
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LOL No i was joking. This is what at&t appears to be doing to us. They released 4G phones that are artificially capped by disabling HSUPA that limits upload speeds to 300kbps. at&t claims that they are "testing" this before they enable HSUPA. It will be 2 months by the time they release the software update to enable HSUPA.
Does anyone know if this update will undo the root?
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Does anyone know if this update will undo the root?
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Are you on a custom ROM? If so, theres no need to update. All the update does is, it enables HSUPA which allows faster upload speeds.
Finally, but still holding breath until it shows 4g speeds on my phone
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kirk123 said:
LOL No i was joking. This is what at&t appears to be doing to us. They released 4G phones that are artificially capped by disabling HSUPA that limits upload speeds to 300kbps. at&t claims that they are "testing" this before they enable HSUPA. It will be 2 months by the time they release the software update to enable HSUPA.
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HAHA ok. I was like "WTF?!" I get my Inspire tomorrow switching from an iPhone 4 so I'm hoping I love it. I've had every iPhone since the 3g. Bit of an Apple whore. Now I'm just bored with iOS.
I finally broke the chains from at&t and rooted my phone. My only regret is that I should've done a long time ago. Now my speeds have tripled. Up yours at&t!!!
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Focustom said:
HAHA ok. I was like "WTF?!" I get my Inspire tomorrow switching from an iPhone 4 so I'm hoping I love it. I've had every iPhone since the 3g. Bit of an Apple whore. Now I'm just bored with iOS.
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Yeah I went from the 1st gen iphone, 3G then to the 3GS. iOS is just that, boring. For 4 or 5 years, the iOS feel is the same. Same icons, same look up until the iphone 4.
Was gonna get the iP4 but then decided to get the Captivate and had nothing but issues with GPS. I got the Inspire and I am totally happy with it.
I am glad I made the switch to android. With an android phone and the awesome support and DEVs here at XDA, it just makes the experience a lot more enjoyable.

[Q] Unlock Tether / Wifi Hotspot on Sprint

I don't want to pay $30/mo to use some of my 5 gigs of data on a PC. I get 'internet unavailable' when I use the built-in tethering or WiFi hotspot. I would rather not use PDANet if there is an easy way to get the built-in functionality working.
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Next time post in the right forum. This should have been asked under the FAQ section. It helps keep things clean and it helps someone answer quicker.
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As far as I know the hot spot just works out of the box
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I was thinking the same thing but wasn't sure if that was just something sprint allows you to use free for the first 30 days or something. I vaguely remember having this "trial" when I first got my evo I believe. I'm past my 30 days so I'll try it when I get home.
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mine worked right out the box, haven't passed my thirty days though so i don't know
If you install one of netarchys kernels it will work regardless of what plan you pay for at sprint.
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Where is the mobile hotspot that came with the phone? Ive never seen it lol
HAHA, I found it. Never even noticed. I dont get good enough service to tether anyway :/
obsanity said:
If you install one of netarchys kernels it will work regardless of what plan you pay for at sprint.
Ahhhh, yes you're right. This is why its always worked for me. Think I've been on a net kernel since the evo.
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crzdcole said:
mine worked right out the box, haven't passed my thirty days though so i don't know
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Yes it works out of the box but wont let you tether over 4g. If you use wireless tether it works around this.
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its def not a free trial google and or samsung forgot to block it. The same thing happend on the lg optimus s. they will figure it out sooner or later and block it. btw i work for sprint thats how i know
Know what?
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its def not a free trial google and or samsung forgot to block it. The same thing happend on the lg optimus s. they will figure it out sooner or later and block it. btw i work for sprint thats how i know
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That'd how he knows its am error they over looked
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jinsoku3g said:
That'd how he knows its am error they over looked
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Oh. I thought everyone knew that. It was talked about alot the first week or so after the phone came out. I dont work at sprint..
Wasnt sure if he knew something he wasnt saying or whatever.
sorry i was meaning to say when sprints starts to realize ppl are geting a free service the will try to block it
mnmyevo8 said:
sorry i was meaning to say when sprints starts to realize ppl are geting a free service the will try to block it
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Your good man, I just misread.
mikeyinid said:
Where is the mobile hotspot that came with the phone? Ive never seen it lol
HAHA, I found it. Never even noticed. I dont get good enough service to tether anyway :/
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Settings--> Wireless & Networks ----> Tethering and Portable hotspot---> Check the box, and its free out of the box a deal Sprint signed with Google.
[email protected] said:
Settings--> Wireless & Networks ----> Tethering and Portable hotspot---> Check the box, and its free out of the box a deal Sprint signed with Google.
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umm... are you sure?
obsanity said:
umm... are you sure?
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I dont think that is the case, I could be wrong though...
Why is this even a discussion???
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brumar2 said:
Why is this even a discussion???
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brumar2, my name is Mike, nice to meet you
Just outta curiosity, what device are you coming from??

When will the Nexus S (not 4g) be getting 2.3.7 ota?

I have not seen any news about it anywhere on the internet. I want it mostly for a fully working native google wallet. I know I can install cyanogen (and have) to have 2.3.7 but want to use stock right now for various reasons including but not limited to google wallet.
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Hello?
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xsteven77x said:
I want it mostly for a fully working native google wallet.
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This might not happen anytime if you're on T-Mobile, though how they're going to implement this for the European models is unclear, so there's still a chance.
T-Mo will not agree to Google terms to use the Google Wallet ecosystem right now because they are developing their own payment system called "ISIS" - which is supposed to go to beta in Spring 2012 in a few places in the US.
Fingers crossed this gets worked out soon, but you didn't get any quick responses to your question because, honestly, nobody knows how this Google Wallet vs ISIS platform is going to play out.
I very much doubt we will get it (European nexus s). Because ics is just around the corner....
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vansmack said:
This might not happen anytime if you're on T-Mobile, though how they're going to implement this for the European models is unclear, so there's still a chance.
T-Mo will not agree to Google terms to use the Google Wallet ecosystem right now because they are developing their own payment system called "ISIS" - which is supposed to go to beta in Spring 2012 in a few places in the US.
Fingers crossed this gets worked out soon, but you didn't get any quick responses to your question because, honestly, nobody knows how this Google Wallet vs ISIS platform is going to play out.
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Oh wow I knew nothing about that thanks for the explanation! Had no idea Tmobile were being such @#$& suckers!
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vansmack said:
nobody knows how this Google Wallet vs ISIS platform is going to play out.
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Lets see.... Google vs T-Mobile, not rocket science
I think Google wallet is a Google and sprint thing. Nit sure tho
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Esteway.619 said:
I think Google wallet is a Google and sprint thing. Nit sure tho
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That's not fragmented. At all.
ericshmerick said:
That's not fragmented. At all.
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Ya that will really be a disgrace if true about being a sprint thing. I have always loved Tmobile but this is making me think less of them.
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Also ICS will be a nexus prime exclusive for probably at least a month or two, so I don't see why we wouldn't get 2.3.7 in the meantime. Is three only thing that changed in it google wallet? I was pretty sure it wasn't.
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markhirt said:
Lets see.... Google vs T-Mobile, not rocket science
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Well, ISIS is actually a partnership between T-Mo, at&t and Verizon, so it's really Google vs T-mo, at&t and Verizon. That's a little more balanced and tougher to figure out...
vansmack said:
Well, ISIS is actually a partnership between T-Mo, at&t and Verizon, so it's really Google vs T-mo, at&t and Verizon. That's a little more balanced and tougher to figure out...
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This *(&^ gets deeper by the minute!
vansmack said:
Well, ISIS is actually a partnership between T-Mo, at&t and Verizon, so it's really Google vs T-mo, at&t and Verizon. That's a little more balanced and tougher to figure out...
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Nope, Google still wins

At&t One X jellybean

One X received their jellybean update today, maybe T-Mobile's is not far behind ?!?!
What does the One X have anything to do with One S? They are different devices with different hardware, on different (although merged) carriers.
actually theres not much difference in the hardware or software. The point I was trying to make was that so far the U.S, carriers were the last to release it.......so maybe T-mobile maybe releasing it soon, thats all
doubt it
kirkcody said:
actually theres not much difference in the hardware or software. The point I was trying to make was that so far the U.S, carriers were the last to release it.......so maybe T-mobile maybe releasing it soon, thats all
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It has been long history tmobile is always last if at all to have the newest roms
Tim2246 said:
It has been long history tmobile is always last if at all to have the newest roms
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Tmobile used to be the first of the major carriers to release the new updates up until they started that stupid wifi calling.
harpr33t said:
Tmobile used to be the first of the major carriers to release the new updates up until they started that stupid wifi calling.
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I don't think WiFi calling is stupid...
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xxquicksh0txx said:
I don't think WiFi calling is stupid...
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Forcing it to be on phones is.
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harpr33t said:
Tmobile used to be the first of the major carriers to release the new updates up until they started that stupid wifi calling.
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What is wifi calling?
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Can't you just turn it off?
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harpr33t said:
Forcing it to be on phones is.
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it allows you to make calls over a wifi connection. It's only useful for people that have a bad signal. It's not free and still uses up minutes from your account and it drains the battery.
And yes you can turn it off but the only way to uninstall it is through rooting .
Wrong forum dude. Post this in the one x forum instead
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harpr33t said:
it allows you to make calls over a wifi connection. It's only useful for people that have a bad signal. It's not free and still uses up minutes from your account and it drains the battery.
And yes you can turn it off but the only way to uninstall it is through rooting .
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Someone is pretty uninformed, it is "free" you can call t-mobile to add wifi-calling to your plan and it wont use any of your minutes. It also doesn't drain the battery more.
HeXDeMoN said:
Someone is pretty uninformed, it is "free" you can call t-mobile to add wifi-calling to your plan and it wont use any of your minutes. It also doesn't drain the battery more.
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:rollseyes: sit down and read this doc boy
https://t-mobile.jive-mobile.com/#jive-document?content=/api/core/v1/documents/1680
WiFi calling is already included in the plan. It all depends on if your phone comes with it preinstalled.
And it does use your minutes and having WiFi on does drain the battery faster than having just a mobile connection. Sheesh.
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We have a JB sticky, for the one s.​

Simultaneous voice and data on 3g?

I know the s3 had it but it went away with the s4. I wonder if the s5 will have it. I know you can get simultaneous voice and data over LTE, but can it be done on 3g?
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eyecon82 said:
I know the s3 had it but it went away with the s4. I wonder if the s5 will have it. I know you can get simultaneous voice and data over LTE, but can it be done on 3g?
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You will not be able to talk and surf over 3G or 4G LTE.
The GS5 is a Sprint Spark phone and only has one transmission path and therefore can only either connect to LTE or CDMA never both. Sorry, but it does help for battery life.
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This sucks.
Yep. What a downgrade!
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That stinks. I can use my 4G while on the phone now with my Evo3D and would like to be able to use it while on a call on my next phone and was really thinking about the S5 for my upgrade. What to do now...
Hippie459MN said:
That stinks. I can use my 4G while on the phone now with my Evo3D and would like to be able to use it while on a call on my next phone and was really thinking about the S5 for my upgrade. What to do now...
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It seems all new phones are on this unfortunate track... You won't be able to avoid it.
Triband is supposed to be the future, but they are going backwards
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It seems all new phones are on this unfortunate track... You won't be able to avoid it.
Triband is supposed to be the future, but they are going backwards
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I would imagine until we have voice over LTE that won't come back on spark devices.
Is VoLTE coming with HD voice this summer or does that just step up what it's currently using?
I'm on my phone a lot in the car and while using navigation and streaming music. So if I ever need to re-route or want to change to a playlist I don't have stored, it kind of sucks.
I
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Talk and LTE 2.5 (spark)
This is the most backwards idea ever. I noticed in the first 5 mins of buying my phone. Highly upset about this! Not that I talk on the phone and use data at the same time a lot, but I would like to have the choice. Something that was not talked about in the weeks after the unveiling of the S5.
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This is the most backwards idea ever. I noticed in the first 5 mins of buying my phone. Highly upset about this! Not that I talk on the phone and use data at the same time a lot, but I would like to have the choice. Something that was not talked about in the weeks after the unveiling of the S5.
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i dont do it either...but when im using bluetooth and on hold, i dont mind playing with the internet....so backwards!!
Most of us have unlimited data on sprint. Google voice integrates well with sprint. So an option would be to set up google voice, and then use a third party app such as phone for google voice. I don't have s5 yet, so can't try it. still on s3.
if anyone wants to try it, then you can report back on how well it works. I have used it overseases using a 3g connection with mixed results. Sometimes worked well, sometimes not.
Hmm with sprint I can't surf the Web at all no data when on a call I understand 3g no data but I was told on spark or lte I can is this true?
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mobgod said:
Hmm with sprint I can't surf the Web at all no data when on a call I understand 3g no data but I was told on spark or lte I can is this true?
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Lte can but spark can't in it's current state .
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lballer69 said:
Lte can but spark can't in it's current state .
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When on lte still drops connection why? ?
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We have a spark device ....so we are basically sol . Past devices worked with lte. I believe all of sprints new devices will work in this manner. Until spark is updated to to allow this feature.
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We have a spark device ....so we are basically sol . Past devices worked with lte. I believe all of sprints new devices will work in this manner. Until spark is updated to to allow this feature.
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That really sucks might have to go back to the s3
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