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If you have gotten your hands on a TB, what kind of battery life are you seeing under various scenarios (3G, Wifi, 4G, etc)? This is the biggest hesitation that I and other folks are having...
Battery life is not that great, but much better than it was 4 months ago. With early firmwares it lasted about 4 hours without even using it. Now it is good for 8 hours of moderate use in 4G coverage. The phone does eat more battery while in 4G coverage than in 3G due to the higher uplink power used by LTE over EVDO. I think future firmwares will help, but the MSM9600 chipset was designed for datacards and not phones like the MSM8960.
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Battery life is not that great, but much better than it was 4 months ago. With early firmwares it lasted about 4 hours without even using it. Now it is good for 8 hours of moderate use in 4G coverage. The phone does eat more battery while in 4G coverage than in 3G due to the higher uplink power used by LTE over EVDO. I think future firmwares will help, but the MSM9600 chipset was designed for datacards and not phones like the MSM8960.
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That is such a stupid reason for poor battery life. It was also a problem when 3g stuff was new. The solution seems quite simple to me, automatically turn off the 4g radio when the phone is in sleep mode. There is no reason to have it using a higher data transfer rate when sleeping. The solution could be extrapolated further into an app based solution. Turn on the 4g radio only when certain apps are open and running. Who really needs 14Mb connection to read e-mail? To make everyone happy, allow the users to configure which apps turn on the 4g radio as well as allowing them to leave it on all the time or leave it off all the time. Viola, battery problem solved.
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Now it is good for 8 hours of moderate use in 4G coverage.
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Hmm, that's pretty weak. What about 3G?
I have gotten into the habit of turning of 3g on my incredible while I'm at work anyway .. I dont need to be that connected while I"m busy working anyway... and pressing the little widget takes 2 seconds to get back online... that will help you increase your battery by 3 times
Battery life is terrible for me, I an on 3g, charged the phone to 100 when I got it and now after 1 hour of use its down to 60%. This is the first charge so its all up in the air, but def way worse than I am used to.
Not bad for me (Central Dallas area), but it is switching between 4G and 3G a noticeable bit, so I'm sure it could be better. I'm not too worried about it as my extended battery comes in tomorrow.
I don't care about the battery issues ,I just love this phone for what it is. Is there even a 4.3in phone out there that last 24hrs of heavy to moderate use, no there isn't. If u want 48hr heavy usage get a blackberry.
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This thread is pointless on release day. The battery needs several charge cycles before it performs as it should.
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In theory, LTE should use less power than CDMA as it's on the 850 Mhz spectrum so the TX power needed should be a lot less.
While in LTE mode the CDMA will kick down to 1x and so should also use less power.
I don't care about the battery issues ,I just love this phone for what it is. Is there even a 4.3in phone out there that last 24hrs of heavy to moderate use, no there isn't. If u want 48hr heavy usage get a blackberry.
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I came from a long line of HTC phones and I wold say that the battery life is better if not on par with the Incredible I had before this.
I bought the phone @ 9am and the battery was at 39%. I almost positive I did not put the phone to sleep until after 1pm. The phone was still at 33%
I am on the fringe of 4G, so it was switching between 3G and 4G, lots of downloads, about 6 calls, lots of texts, surfing/email and only a 6% loss. I'm happy with that.
Tomorrow will be the real test as I have not completed a full charge yet. I did notice that when I did connect it to the charger a little while ago, it charges much slower than my Incredible did.
Battery life is great so far. Better than my Droid X, Samsung fascinate, EVO
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Unplugged at 3:30pm after fully charged. It's now 7:50pm and it's giving a warning to connect charger (at ~10%). I hope battery life improves after a few full discharge/recharge cycles otherwise may have to look into other options such as extended battery. I guess that's the price to pay to have screaming LTE on all the time. I'm guessing Verizon intentionally left out a way to disable LTE to keep data usage off the 3G network.
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Tomorrow will be the real test as I have not completed a full charge yet. I did notice that when I did connect it to the charger a little while ago, it charges much slower than my Incredible did.
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This is because the USB Port only pulls .5 amperes, and the T-Bolt's charger is rated at 1.0 amperes. This is why the charger charges much quicker than USB. Also, my motorola droid charger was .5 amperes too. So this kinda sucks. Power is definitely going to be an issue for the t-bolt.
I came from the fascinate which had a terrible battery but this is much worse. I don't mind though, I have a charger in my car and at my desk. I am very happy with this purchase so far.
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Yeah... I actually bought a car charger for the first time since phones used proprietary connections (read lg chocolate). Good investment
It's ok, fully charged at 5, its 11 and down to 25%, need to cycle through a few times.
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This thread is pointless on release day. The battery needs several charge cycles before it performs as it should.
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^This... seriously people... the power manager needs several COMPLETE charges to calibrate... also because it is new most people are using it far more than they will after the calibration is completed (remember display is than #1 battery drain and the hours you spend configuring and playing with it the first day or two gives an inaccurate assessment of 'normal' use)...
Ok. Android phones are not blackberries, and I'm well aware of that. This Thunderbolt is not my first android device, so I am very familiar with setting it up and using it in such a way to make the battery last.
I'm not posting this to complain of the battery life sucking. I'm complaining that the battery is fine one day, and horrible the next.
So here's what happens. Yesterday, i unplugged my phone at 730am like i do every day. By 3pm with light usage, i was down to 40% or so. Charged it up before I left work, no big deal, lasted the rest of the night.
Today, unplug the phone at 730am, phone is completely dead, as in, won't even boot by 11am. Same apps, same usage, same location, same strong 4G signal, same everything. It has happened multiple times on consecutive days when i was rooted on the stock rom, and still on VirusRom. I just dont get why this happens. I am doing nothing different and my phone either lasts all day, or a few hours. It's getting to the point where I am finding it very hard to rely on this phone when i'm out and about. It makes no sense. Especially if i'm not really using my phone, just checking for texts once in a while, there is no reason why it should die. What if i need it? I couldn't even call or text my gf tonight while I was working because my phone battery was ZERO only a few hours after leaving the house with a 100% charge.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
yesterday I had abnormal drain on my battery. I get 18 - 24 hours on a charge normally, but yesterday I went from 100% to dead in 5 hours. Called VZW and they said it was a documented problem and they were working on it.
IDK, they are pretty good about pushing updates. Also, yesterday I kept dropping out of data. bizzare....
I burned through the extended battery in 9 hours yesterday, really hope they figure out some better power management soon,
Switch it to 3G cdma rev.a and see if that helps. The 4G radio is always being searched for. I love the tb so I can deal with no 4G til they get the bugs out.
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You have to use current widget and see how much power draw your phone is pulling. Then use system panel monitoring to track apps using the highest CPU.
Definitely an issue and I'm glad that Verizon is aware of it. I've had this unusual drain happen four times now, all on 4G. Last time I noticed it (seeing the battery percentage drop like 2% every five minutes or so), went to the Market and snagged System Panel.
The offending process is "system." Had my CPU spiked at 100% for over an hour before I rebooted, which does fix it, at the cost of another 10% of your battery, of course.
Hope they get this ironed out soon. Love my Thunderbolt, but this is a major issue and seems to be happening to a lot of people.
The best thing to do is dial *#*#4636#*#* and turn the radio to CDMA auto (PRL) mode.
I am already seeing much better battery life, as I am in a non 4g area.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to give that a try. I got into the radio settings, and after flashing VirusRom, my phone defaulted to LTE mode only. I put it to cdma/lte auto, to see if that helps. If not, i'll just disable LTE unless i really need it.
No need to dial all of that crap. TeamAndIRC has a toggle app called "LTE OnOFF TeamAndIRC" that allows you to toggle between CDMA and CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
I found out two things dealing with my massive nighttime battery drain. One, wifi doesn't seem to work correctly. I've never had the problem before but for some reason it doesn't sleep correctly. What I've done is changed the sleep policy to "15 minutes" which allows it to switch back to 3G fifteen minutes after I turn off the screen. That allows me to have wifi while I'm using it but 3G while it's idle. This has seemed to fix my problem along with... Second, I am on the fringe of 4G/3G here on the outskirts of Cincinnati. At work I am solid 4G but at home it can't make up it's mind. Well, that has certainly played into the battery issue as it is constantly searching. So, what I do is as I walk in the door from work I use the app listed above to switch to "CDMA auto (PRL)" and it sticks to 3G. When I get to work I switch to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto".
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I have eliminated my nightime drain by doing two things:
1) I use the Y5 app to automatically start wifi as I walk in the door but have changed the sleep policy to "after 15 minutes".
2) I use the app above to switch from 4G/3G auto to 3G only.
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No need to dial all of that crap. TeamAndIRC has a toggle app called "LTE OnOFF TeamAndIRC" that allows you to toggle between CDMA and CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto.
I found out two things dealing with my massive nighttime battery drain. One, wifi doesn't seem to work correctly. I've never had the problem before but for some reason it doesn't sleep correctly. What I've done is changed the sleep policy to "15 minutes" which allows it to switch back to 3G fifteen minutes after I turn off the screen. That allows me to have wifi while I'm using it but 3G while it's idle. This has seemed to fix my problem along with... Second, I am on the fringe of 4G/3G here on the outskirts of Cincinnati. At work I am solid 4G but at home it can't make up it's mind. Well, that has certainly played into the battery issue as it is constantly searching. So, what I do is as I walk in the door from work I use the app listed above to switch to "CDMA auto (PRL)" and it sticks to 3G. When I get to work I switch to "CDMA + LTE/EvDo auto".
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I have eliminated my nightime drain by doing two things:
1) I use the Y5 app to automatically start wifi as I walk in the door but have changed the sleep policy to "after 15 minutes".
2) I use the app above to switch from 4G/3G auto to 3G only.
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LTEonoff is just a shortcut to the menu. In essence, it saves no time because you have to download it. If you're flipping it on and off all the time, then yeah, it might behoove you to just dl the app. But, as a one time thing, it's unnecessary.
^You are correct. I switch daily but I didn't see earlier that you were not in a 4G area.
I would highly suggest this to anyone who sees their data connection switch back and forth as I was in my house.
Battery life has been strong the past couple days now. I haven't had any unusual drains since i switched from LTE only mode to EVDO/LTE auto mode. I dont know if this was for sure the issue, but it seems to have made a huge difference. I haven't been plugged in for 2 hours and i still have 92% battery left.
Here's my interpretation of the issue:
There seems to be some kind of problem or bug with the radio which makes it drain an enormous amount of power from some towers (700mA+ is shown on current widget). Even with good signal, I'll repeatably drain a lot of power in certain areas. The "fix" is to disable mobile data or switch to wifi. This lowers the power usage back down to (slightly lower than) normal levels.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu (nothing does, in fact ... it just looks like normal battery use).
I'm glad to hear that they are aware of an issue that maybe causing this.
I can't stand the battery life either other than that I love the phone
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Yeah i'm still at 83% battery after being unplugged for 4 hours, light usage.
Another thing i noticed is that when my battery was draining stupid fast, the phone would be warm to the touch even when it was just sitting on my belt clip. All seems well for now.
Mine is good
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My battery life has recently become terribly inconsistent. Last week I was actually getting through a 16 hour day with light usage, but this weekened I must have installed something because now the phone is lasting 3-4 hours with hardly any usage at all.
The battery information is pretty worthless because it's not showing anything except display using the battery and the display has only been on maybe 8 minutes.
Checked the partial wake info and nothing seems to be running in the background. The battery is just discharging like crazy all of a sudden. Guess Ill start uninstalling stuff to see what might be causing it
I am also having a weird battery experience today. I am rooted running Adrynalyne 1.9. Last few days I was doing great, moderate usage and was staying charged for 16-18 hrs. Today my phone has died twice during my 8hr shift at work. I KNOW something is wrong there. Hopefully a fix is found soon.
On all my Androids (4 of them currently in daily use), I've found that Words With Friends is often a HUGE battery killer...and I don't mean because you play it a lot, I mean leave it running and put your phone down, walk away a while, come back to the phone and it is HOT to the touch! Obviously killing the battery. Something to look at for sure.
I've got the extended battery and just went over 48 hours, with moderate to heavy use by my standards on a single charge. Pretty amazing and I guess I'm not in a bad radio area.
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Switch it to 3G cdma rev.a and see if that helps. The 4G radio is always being searched for. I love the tb so I can deal with no 4G til they get the bugs out.
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The only thing I love about the TB is the 4G...everything else on it, been there, done that. I wouldn't keep the TB if 4G had to be turned off to make it usable in terms of battery life. Hopefully it will be fixed quickly!
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Here's my interpretation of the issue:
There seems to be some kind of problem or bug with the radio which makes it drain an enormous amount of power from some towers (700mA+ is shown on current widget). Even with good signal, I'll repeatably drain a lot of power in certain areas. The "fix" is to disable mobile data or switch to wifi. This lowers the power usage back down to (slightly lower than) normal levels.
For some reason, the radio will not admit to drawing practically 90% of your battery in the battery use menu (nothing does, in fact ... it just looks like normal battery use).
I'm glad to hear that they are aware of an issue that maybe causing this.
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Thanks for that analysis. With that in mind, if it's accurate, could a Tasker app profile be set up that does your fix if the drain works that high? Would be a nice safety feature for those who aren't willing to have to look at their phone frequently to check battery life.
You have to use the current widget to record your idle power readings, its the only way to know what's going on. Then use system panel monitoring to see which app CPU is highest.
Look, this may not be a 28nm quad core phone with a 4.5" IPS 720p display, but we're getting there.
This is the best LTE phone still. Samsung has the AMOLED, but HTC gave this one the dual radio chipset and 4 antenna to give you the best reception, and since this phone is all about LTE, that's what makes it the best.
Battery life is the boon of LTE. You can get 3 hours of mobile hotspot if you're serious, but take today for example. Been at work for 4 hours with wifi on, and my battery still hasn't hit 80%.
Why is it I see everyone complain about the TB battery life?
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Why is it I see everyone complain about the TB battery life?
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Because its easy to drain. The phone has a smaller than average battery and the 4G tech is power hungry.
I've had the phone since release, and I'm always testing tweaks to improve the battery life. This phone is a beast, so it can tear through the stock battery, depending on your use. I only have experience with the TB on LTE though, so I'm not sure how it is for the Charge. I wouldn't trade the TB for anything else though.
been using the phone for about a week and battery life really depends on how its used. for example, on days im constantly texting and using apps, the battery lasts me only half a day. but yesterday i was heading into nyc and needed the phone to last me the whole day and once i limited my usage of it, it did last. the phone doesnt drain battery very fast unless its under intense usage.
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been using the phone for about a week and battery life really depends on how its used. for example, on days im constantly texting and using apps, the battery lasts me only half a day. but yesterday i was heading into nyc and needed the phone to last me the whole day and once i limited my usage of it, it did last. the phone doesnt drain battery very fast unless its under intense usage.
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The problem with that statement is we shouldn't be forced to limit our phone use to make it through a day. I am not advocating heavy usage...2 days worth of battery etc, but under normal daily conditions the battery should make it through a day...meaning a combination of all the general things done on a smartphone, and then kinda averaged out to make it thorugh 10 or 12 hours.
I know all the arguments about it all ways...all I am saying is a smartphone should make it through a normal day usage...almost as a standard.
I am still torn on the phone...but I have trouble making decisions for myself...so no suprise to me there...I like some of the features of the phone, but really am just blah on it. The power button is under sensitive, the volume buttons overly sensitive and IMO in the wrong spot...dislike the feel of it in my hand *(had it since Tuesday).
The only appealing factor to me is the fact that AOSP has made it (and HTC's recent annoucement regarding unlocked bootloaders...makes me want to buy into the cause....and is what is deterring me from other LTE phones (I dont know why I give it so much thought we won't have LTE here til sometime before December (hopefully)...I just was ready for an upgrade, figured why not get at least unlimited LTE til sometime in 2013 (at the least..)
I am leaning heavily on bring this back for the charge...or waiting til the bionic....though AOSP is a very important factor for me in choosing a phone
I haven't had my Thunderbolt for long, but I'm enjoying it so far. I've liked HTC phones since my days with WinMo, and the TB is an evolutionary, not revolutionary, step up from the Incredible that I replaced. Digging the larger screen and LTE is fast in my area (Pittsburgh). I think it has a better feel than the Incredible, too. I didn't mind the tiered back, but it felt mostly plasticky. The TB definitely seems to be made out of higher-quality materials.
Battery life is it's weakness, though, but it's not a deal breaker. I can go from the time I wake up until the time I go to bed with it, for the most part (although I was able to go 2 days on a charge with the Incredible). I don't think I'm a particularly heavy user, though... an hour of talking, maybe a dozen texts, an hour on the internet, and sporadic checking of my email or Twitter. I keep my brightness set to about 30%, GPS and Bluetooth are off, all vibration is off, Twitter and email are set to update manually. Weather updates every three hours, contacts whenever.
So far I really like my TB. Battery life isn't the greatest but there are people working on that.
We weren't supposed to get 4G until Dec also but it showed up a few days ago.
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Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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Is not.
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Is not the phone in TB pretty crappy? It least on mine I get a ton of static when talking on the phone, and the volume is often either too loud or too soft, as if the range for volume control is not wide enough. It feels like my old clamshell from 3 years ago sounded much better.
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I wouldn't say it's crappy. I'm not getting static or anything on it. But it does sound a little tinnier than my Incredible did.
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The problem with that statement is we shouldn't be forced to limit our phone use to make it through a day. I am not advocating heavy usage...2 days worth of battery etc, but under normal daily conditions the battery should make it through a day...meaning a combination of all the general things done on a smartphone, and then kinda averaged out to make it thorugh 10 or 12 hours.
I know all the arguments about it all ways...all I am saying is a smartphone should make it through a normal day usage...almost as a standard.
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This is the primary reason I hate my TB. I use Exchange and Gmail push mail and I have done everything I could to reduce battery life, incl. limiting background data like weather, but my phone still only last 5 hours under normal usage. My old iPhone 4, with the same usage, will last another 3 hors at the minimum.
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This is the primary reason I hate my TB. I use Exchange and Gmail push mail and I have done everything I could to reduce battery life, incl. limiting background data like weather, but my phone still only last 5 hours under normal usage. My old iPhone 4, with the same usage, will last another 3 hors at the minimum.
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Wow, 5 hours? That's crazy.
I use my phone to stream music for about 1 - 3 hours a day, sync google calendar, contacts, and gmail, and weather widget and I can get about 20 hours. If I start playing games or make long phone calls, that definitely makes a difference. But I can easily get 20 hours with moderate usage.
Have you thought or rooting and running a different ROM/kernel? I'm running Tesla Coil with leankernel and I love it!
edit: I also leave wifi, bluetooth, and GPS on all day. Wifi is set to sleep after 15 minutes. I'm also in a 4G area.
Well... that is the problem. I'm trying to use my TB professionally. I use it to join conf calls, always with my bluetooth headset, check and reply company emails, etc.
It just doesn't cut it. I always have to recharge it mid day. I never had to do the same with my BlackBerry Curve or Tmobile G2, specially the G2.
Problem is not always I have the option to recharge. And just the fact that I have to pay attention and monitor battery level is not good.
I need a phone that I can use A LOT for email (a lot!!!) and calls, several calls per day, with bluetooth. The TB is not this phone.
I've had mine sine thursday and the battery sucks. It reminds me of the original droid which I ultimately had to buy the Seido extended battery for to get the use I wanted out of it.
If you leave it in 3g it will go all day. On Friday my wife and I went looking at houses (we're shopping to buy) using my wifi xoom to do research while accessing data through the mobile hotspot. We drove around for about 4 hours and the TBolt still had 50%charge when I got home and I still had power when I put it on charge at bedtime. This was on 3g though.
Yesterday we did the same thing but I left 4G on. We drove off at about 2:00PM with a 90% charge on the phone. By 3:15 it was down to 39%. That's ridiculous, and the phone was crazy hot too.
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I've had mine sine thursday and the battery sucks. It reminds me of the original droid which I ultimately had to buy the Seido extended battery for to get the use I wanted out of it.
If you leave it in 3g it will go all day. On Friday my wife and I went looking at houses (we're shopping to buy) using my wifi xoom to do research while accessing data through the mobile hotspot. We drove around for about 4 hours and the TBolt still had 50%charge when I got home and I still had power when I put it on charge at bedtime. This was on 3g though.
Yesterday we did the same thing but I left 4G on. We drove off at about 2:00PM with a 90% charge on the phone. By 3:15 it was down to 39%. That's ridiculous, and the phone was crazy hot too.
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You are probably in a sketchy 4g area and probably used more data. Both will make a huge difference in battery life.
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You are probably in a sketchy 4g area and probably used more data. Both will make a huge difference in battery life.
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Maybe, but it appears to have a pretty good signal. I haven't been watching that cloely but when I have looked it hasn't had below two bars. They claim the whole city is well covered and quite a bit of the countryside around it. Jacksonville Fl. may not have the *most* in population but it is the *biggest* city in the state.
The TB is Verizon's first CDMA+LTE phone & has its shortcomings, just like any other 1st-gen technology. The battery is only 1400mah, so don't expect it to last as long as 3G-only phones with similar battery size. You can extend battery life by disabling nonessential apps/services & turning off 4G when you don't need it. You can also flash a custom rom & battery sipping kernel, but a lot of ppl are not willing to go that far, especially with the recent bricking issues. The best way to ensure you have enough juice w/o recharging is to buy an extra battery & charger. You can get both from ebay for less than $20. Then you won't have to gimp your TB just to make it through the day
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I said the phone on t-bolt was crappy. People who said the word crappy was inappropriate were correct, thanks for that, it is not crappy. But, coming off at&t iPhone I immediately noticed that t-bolt did not sound as good, and this he first time ever I noticed a difference in call sound when switching phones, so got a bit upsetting I guess. By now I am used to it and sounds ok to me.
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When you realize that this phone is more powerful than the computer I took to college and it's running on a battery the size of a saltine cracker, it's only logical that it won't last all day if you're using it nonstop.
Older phones seemed to last forever because all it did was make calls and the occasional text. I had the original enV and if I sat around using AIM and playing what few games were available the battery drained like my bank account at a strip club. Android phones? Fugeddaboutit. We're talking, texting, streaming, listening, WiFi hotspotting, playing, and recording all day long and DON'T think we'll need a power boost? Puh-lease.
Buy a spare battery, keep a charger handy, or just use it more conservatively.
I have a Droid Inc 2, but I wanted to switch to the Tbolt, but have heard the battery is awful. As of right now I am in a 3G only area, but will have 4G soon. I see the Tbolt has a 1400mah battery while the Droid Inc 2 has a 1450Mah battery, so would the difference on 3G be that much??
My battery life is good...usually get 2 or 3 days on a full charge ..push exchange mail. Gmail. Friendstream.phone calls texts etc?
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On 3g the battery is not that bad. I don't have 4g where Im at and when I was on a froyo rom the battery would last all day no problems.
When I go into SanFran I get 4g and it seems to way more battery if Im using the phone but it doesn't seem too bad. I just have to keep a charger handy butt that doesn't bother me.
Benefits of the thunderbolt are a bigger screen (part of the battery "problem"), 4g radio, and the development is here unlike with the dInc2.
Stock for stock I think the thunderbolt still wins for me. I was thinking about getting my wife a dInc2 but the lack of a development community kills it for me. Maybe it will pick up at some point but IMO its a step backwards for Verizon to release new phones without 4g.
If youre not going to root and stuff then it's not such an easy choice. If you are then IMO the choice is clear, get a thunderbolt.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, on 3G or WIFI the battery life is solid. I get a full day easily with gmail constantly syncing, gtalk on constantly and widgets such as beautiful widgets, calendar, twitter and face-book on constantly. Also, I work in a hospital and access patient data frequently on my phone. This is via the internet and data is refreshed at each access (50+ times per day). BTWI take the phone off the charger at 0530 and don't get home till 1930, and still have some juice left for the ride home. And I don't use any battery savers, or task killers.
But when I turn the 4G radio on, and there is frequent hand-off from 4G to 3G, the battery is dead in 6 hrs with the use stated above.
That said, when I go into the city where 4G is very strong and consistent, I can get a full day (8-10 hrs on 4G).
What I suspect happened when people first got the phone, is that they were so enamored with it; speed, screen, etc...(myself included), that the battery took huge hits, and everyone cried at how terrible the battery life was.
As with everything, wait for the dust to settle and you find the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Nevertheless, I still would like an 1800mah battery that fits the standard door.
Until 4G is fully developed in your area this phone isn't worth it. I've been through two of them that are frequently heating up when they're doing nothing but sitting in my pocket with auto sync off, brightness as low as possible, no notification LED, etc. It's pathetic. It over heats and drains into yellow by noon. 4G is amazingly fast, but since the outages it hasn't been the same. It comes and goes in areas where it used to be four bars.
If you're not in a 4G area then you should be good. Those of us with 4G are having a tougher time with battery. If I leave 4G running then my battery will die in less than 6 hours if with light use.
I most often turn off my mobile network though, letting me get around 8-10 hours.
On 3G, with the normal battery, it was much better than my old Fascinate.
With LTE, I went to the extended battery, and I struggle to get through the day on moderate-heavy use. (On LTE with the Regular battery your toast).
BTW, I am unrooted and am using Juice Defender.
There are apps on the Market which allow you to switch between 3G and 4G. I leave my Thunderbolt on 3G unless I am checking the internet, Facebook or Twitter. I usually get a full day on the stock battery. That is better than my battery usage on the LG Ally.
Well with the bamf gb remix i get 6 hrs full power all the time,everything possible running, slacker,maps,fb mail all syncin 10min,thats about 2 hrs better than my imagio, about 12hrs with just moderate use,i think thats pretty good.
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I live in a 3g area but I'm only a few miles away from 4g. As long as I'm in a 3g area my battery is good. But as soon as I enter a 4g area its not so good. It doesn't bother me too much since I have a car charger and have about ten usb cables and micro usb chargers laying around. But I probably will invest in an extended battery once VZW deploy 4g in my area a bit more.
Some good tips to get more out of the battery are...
1. For a good 10 - 15 days be sure to drain the battery all the way and then fully charge it.
2. When the phone is fully charged remove it from the charger. You may notice that if you leave it on the charger for a while after its fully charged it will go from 100% to 97% usually within minutes.
3. Screen protectors decrease the battery life due to holding heat into the phone.
brandoid said:
Some good tips to get more out of the battery are...
1. For a good 10 - 15 days be sure to drain the battery all the way and then fully charge it.
2. When the phone is fully charged remove it from the charger. You may notice that if you leave it on the charger for a while after its fully charged it will go from 100% to 97% usually within minutes.
3. Screen protectors decrease the battery life due to holding heat into the phone.
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You sure about that last one? I don't think screen protectors cause excess heat. Good tips otherwise.
I came from the Droid 1 and I think that the battery life is about the same. I have no complaints about it. I do live in a 3G area though.
Why do you suggest to fully charge and drain the battery for 10 - 15 days? I deained the battery fully a couple of times when I just got the phone. Do you think I should repeat the procedure?
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fully draining the battery shortens its life span. and once it reaches 100% charge, it stops charging and begins to drain--taking it off/leaving it on are the same.
These batteries don't need to be "conditioned" by fully cycling them. All that'll do is help calibrate your gauge.
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You sure about that last one? I don't think screen protectors cause excess heat. Good tips otherwise.
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This is all information that came for HTC about the phone.
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I trialed the DInc2 for 2 weeks and switched to the Thunderbolt while my wife stuck with her DInc2, after rooting and installing Das Bamf 1.6.3 remix with adrynalyne's kernel, I easily make it through the day with moderate usage (autosync on, several hours of gaming, hundreds of txt, hour of phone calls) on 3g/wifi. DInc2 will get a couple extra hours in a day with the same usage, but you get a phone with 4g capability for the future, a larger screen, and all the support of the devs here for your rooted device while my wife's waiting for her DInc2 to still be rooted.
Best thing to do is just buy some cheap ebay batteries. I use those and I keep a few in my pocket just in case
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Until 4G is fully developed in your area this phone isn't worth it. I've been through two of them that are frequently heating up when they're doing nothing but sitting in my pocket with auto sync off, brightness as low as possible, no notification LED, etc. It's pathetic. It over heats and drains into yellow by noon. 4G is amazingly fast, but since the outages it hasn't been the same. It comes and goes in areas where it used to be four bars.
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Sounds like you have got a rogue app you need to take care of, more so than the phone being bad.
I figure there's some folks on the fence about whether they should get rid of their g2x for the Sensation, or some who have to make the choice between the two.
I owned the G2X from launch day until this week. I've had the Sensation for 24 hours.
I have to admit up front I'm biased in terms of design- I prefer the look and feel of the Sensation over the G2X, no matter the performance of the two.
Initial impressions:
-Look and feel-To me, the Sensation wins this hands down, which is really saying something, because the G2X felt great in hand also. But the shape and design of the HTC is something I dig a bit more than the iphonish slab.
You may prefer the g2x as this is simply preference.
-Screen: call it a slight HTC advantage. The sensation has a higher resolution, which is obvious immediately, and has a slightly bigger screen, but lacks some of the eye popping color of the G2X.
-Speed: The G2X is a bit snappier, but I have yet to miss that extra snap because the rest of the experience is so good. Don't misunderstand, the HTC is also plenty fast, but I have been able to slow it down on occasion.
-call quality/sound quality: about the same in terms of calls, but the sounds (ringers and notifications, speaker phone) are all lower on the sensation, unless I'm missing a setting)
-htc sense/almost vanilla g2x: I prefer vanilla, but htc sense has surprised me..it's laid out really well. In the end, I rooted the g2x, and I'll root the sensation, so I'm not too concerned. If you're not the rooting type, the G2X is for you (though it's so easy to root the hell out of you might as well dive in)
-Battery life: This is the biggie for me. I immediately noticed how much better the HTC is compared to the g2x. Last night, I got 7 hours from the Sensation, and the screen was on full brightness (screen on time-5 hours, 55 minutes), wifi and wifi calling were on and so was facebook, gmail and email syncing. I was trying out everything for those 7 hours, too. Today, having unplugged at 5am, I'm now at 65% 11.5 hours later. This is with minimal use for 8 hours, and moderate to heavy use for the past 2 or so. The G2X either has the worst battery, or the worst battery drivers, and either way, I don't care anymore. I would lose 8% per hour while it sat in my pocket with the screen off. The Sensation lost about 1.5% per hour while the screen's off, today anyway.
Now, if both phones lose the same amount when in use heavily, the Sensation still wins by a wide margin as the idling % makes up for it. Simply put: it saves the juice when you're not using it.
-Bugs: G2x has seemingly 50 crippling bugs, but the most glaring is obviously the battery issues. There are reboots, freezes, factory resets and batteries that just turn off when charging because they're so hot. I'm talking hot to the touch. The LG dbag I spoke to in the tmobile store was awfully smug about these issues, another reason I was looking to jump ship.
Also wifi and data issues were pretty prevalent until I flashed a rom.
The HTC: pending, but nothing as dumbfounding as the mess I dealt with, with the LG. I tried the death grip and checked my screen for dust, and all the popular complaints, but haven't noticed anything yet.
Verdict: The Sensation feels like a Nexus One in hand, has a small led notification, gets much better battery life so far, and just feels more polished, inside and out. The LG is a hot rod with no restrictions, but horrible gas mileage and a slight pinging sound in the engine. If the Sensation were rooted right now, this would make the call way too easy-Sensation hands down. Since it's not currently, I say go with the Sensation if you don't own either one yet. If you own the G2X, I might wait for the update and see how it responds. If you're like me, a Nexus One freak, and you don't mind waiting for HTC to unlock the bootloader (or one of the brilliant minds here!), then the Sensation wins.
Hope this overview helps some people.
I honestly don't get the battery issues that people are having with the G2x. The rest of the issues.. most certainly. I am on my third due to the rest of the issues, but battery... yeah, no. It lasted 17.5 hours yesterday with 3 hours 45 min of actual screen on time + a few calls. And that was with WiFi on continuously but only having connection for 8 of those hours. I have a hard time finding issue with that. There IS a bug in the wifi calling which will eat your battery, but a simple check with "wheres my droid power" will show you that and let you kill the process.
All three of my phones have had issues (the second just loved to reboot randomly and repeatedly and once even factory reset itself) but battery has never even been close to being an issue.
I DO run Juice defender (the free version). If thats of importance. I am currently at 94% at 4 hours 39min since unplugged. GPS and WIFI on, no wifi signal.
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i just returned my g2x from lots of issues from batt. to wifi calling issues, then to finalize it suck on LG logo, so i returned it and got a mytouch 4g whic right off the get go it aint no dual core but the 2nd gen snap dragon is good and not loosing bars every minute went from 1-3,4 all the time (g2x) so have to love htc phones
i will see if how this phone treats me maybe jump in there next wk and get the sensation..
I loved my MT4G too. I REALLY wish I had skipped the G2x. I have such fingers crossed for the Sensation.
You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
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You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
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Oh no doubt. That's what I'm counting on
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I honestly don't get the battery issues that people are having with the G2x. The rest of the issues.. most certainly. I am on my third due to the rest of the issues, but battery... yeah, no. It lasted 17.5 hours yesterday with 3 hours 45 min of actual screen on time + a few calls. And that was with WiFi on continuously but only having connection for 8 of those hours. I have a hard time finding issue with that. There IS a bug in the wifi calling which will eat your battery, but a simple check with "wheres my droid power" will show you that and let you kill the process.
All three of my phones have had issues (the second just loved to reboot randomly and repeatedly and once even factory reset itself) but battery has never even been close to being an issue.
I DO run Juice defender (the free version). If thats of importance. I am currently at 94% at 4 hours 39min since unplugged. GPS and WIFI on, no wifi signal.
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Well you're one of the lucky ones. I certainly wouldn't make it up.
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i agree one hundred percent that it feels alot like my nexus one days.. o how i miss them
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i agree one hundred percent that it feels alot like my nexus one days.. o how i miss them
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Still miss the trackball.
madwolf27 said:
I loved my MT4G too. I REALLY wish I had skipped the G2x. I have such fingers crossed for the Sensation.
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Same here, my MT4G ran smooth, great signal strength, wifi, battery life was good...etc. This nightmare I dropped the MT4G to get is making life miserable. I'm on my 3rd G2x and all the same problems with each, just in differing degrees. I've been trying to decide if I should hold out and hope for the best or call up Tmo and make them take this crap back and give me a Sensation.
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You feel your g2x was snappier etc.
WELLLL WAIT till the bootloader unlocks and the devs start on this beast. faster roms and overcloks your looking at a sensation laptop or tablet not a phone. looool
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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NO WAY YOU MOTHER F*CKIN WICKED FIESTY SON OF A *******
so that means if it is a standard 1.5 ghz underclocked, we could seriously look at an overclock upto 2ghz. 4ghz sensation. F**kin hell thats my sony vaio right there.
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And in reality, real clocking since the Sensation is actually underclocked (the chip is actually a 1.5 GHz chip) I would guess to save battery life?
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Wow, I did not know that. Pimp my cpu is just begging to be used in my app tray.
I am totally biased towards HTC I have loved everyone of their android devices!!! The g2x simply sucks period! the screen was nice and that's about it! I am debating whether or not to sell my g2x or just keep it in the top drawer dungeon with my other forgotten cell phones. After 24 hours of playing with my sensation I absolutely love it. I am using adw launcher and for the most part htc sense isn't getting in my way. I love the lockscreen and the ability to instantly start my favorite 4 apps without technically unlocking the phone. I know that after my first 24hrs with my g2x I had already popped my sim card back in my mt4g...... so if you are on the fence about which to purchase GET A SENSATION!!!!
Well I've played with the sensation. I liked it. Was noticeably slower.
But felt great.
I'll be waiting for Nov to mar when the quad core chips release.
I just didn't find it justifiable to switch.
But it is a nice phone.
So is my g2x.
No problems.
Love the the gaming on the g2x
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wifi issue
i have the wifi issue on the landscape mode, no luck watching a video on youtube with the phone in my left hand
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Yea I miss the custom colors for my texts
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Nice review, thanks. I agree with almost everything you stated. I had the G2X and had to send it back. Terrible battery and the Bluetooth would never connect after the initial pairing.
This is my 1st HTC phone and I really like it. The battery is much better than the G2X. I was concerned about not liking Sense, however, I have been pleasantly surprised. IMO, this is a much better quality/build of a phone than the G2X. It will be even better once it's rooted.
I picked up a Sensation today and it is sitting next to my G2x. So far I have observed the following:
Sensation--Device got very hot immediately after powering it on. It has continued to stay at 101 to 111 degrees if used at all. If it idles it only drops to 96 degrees.
Touchscreen becomes unresponsive at times and a noticeable lag appears while trying to load apps. After charging to full capacity it has dropped 17% in 15 minutes of very limited use. The screen is very nice and it is a very attractive phone. I am not a fan of Sense (although this version is much better than the previous ones) Speaker phone volume is relatively weak (in my opinion) The build is great, although I have found a sort of dent in the upper area of the battery cover. The GPS is one of the best I have ever tried. All in all a very very good phone. The heating issues which started immediately and the touchscreen's lack of responsiveness make it hard for me to consider keeping this phone. I could probably just send it back and get a replacement but I do not want to get on that merry go round again. Unless the over heating ceases or gets better and the touch screen responds on all areas of the screen, it will go back and I will be staying with the G2X. Make no mistake though the Sensation is a GREAT phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I picked up a Sensation today and it is sitting next to my G2x. So far I have observed the following:
Sensation--Device got very hot immediately after powering it on. It has continued to stay at 101 to 111 degrees if used at all. If it idles it only drops to 96 degrees.
Touchscreen becomes unresponsive at times and a noticeable lag appears while trying to load apps. After charging to full capacity it has dropped 17% in 15 minutes of very limited use. The screen is very nice and it is a very attractive phone. I am not a fan of Sense (although this version is much better than the previous ones) Speaker phone volume is relatively weak (in my opinion) The build is great, although I have found a sort of dent in the upper area of the battery cover. The GPS is one of the best I have ever tried. All in all a very very good phone. The heating issues which started immediately and the touchscreen's lack of responsiveness make it hard for me to consider keeping this phone. I could probably just send it back and get a replacement but I do not want to get on that merry go round again. Unless the over heating ceases or gets better and the touch screen responds on all areas of the screen, it will go back and I will be staying with the G2X. Make no mistake though the Sensation is a GREAT phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I charged my sensation fully before I ever powered it on and I have not experienced any over heating issues. I absolutely hate the g2x lol