Droid X > HTC Thunderlbolt - General Questions and Answers

This is going to be a long question guys but I hope that someone can help me out with this issue or point me to the right direction:
As you know the HTC Thunderbolt went on sale today and I got mine. But I used to have a Droid X Rooted and with the Liberty ROM 1.5. This Droid X is linked to my Gmail account and I got installed on it these "AFTER ROOTED APPS" like: Liberty Toolbox, Set CPU, Droid X Overclock, Z4 Root, SuperUsers, Wireless Theter and so on with my regular Apps which in total are like 149 apps. The Things is that as you may know all those apps get straight downloaded when you set up the phone for the first time and i don't want specific Apps to be installed in the HTC tunderbolt. So basically that's my problem: How can I prevent some Apps that I have already have on the cloud to not be installed on the HTC Thunderbolt...
Thanks To All Who Cooperate...

Isn't that Google pulled some apps out from market because root exploit? They can disable your phone without u even knowing . What's root anyways ? I mean how much more performance you'll get and what's the consequences of doing it . I just got banned from inspire forum and don't care coz I asked questions and some jerks don't like that . Did you asked your self question what's really in all this kernels and custom rooms ? Are u doing banking from your phone? Are you trusting all this ppl here offering all this custom stuff? Think about it . I just got rid of my ATT coz all this network problems , got my self sweet deal for 90 bucks w month with WiFi hotspot included , what else I need , pretty much nothing . Read horror stories online maybe you'll think twice before u decide put some guys custom room into awesome as is device . Good luck

djvtek said:
Isn't that Google pulled some apps out from market because root exploit? They can disable your phone without u even knowing . What's root anyways ? I mean how much more performance you'll get and what's the consequences of doing it . I just got banned from inspire forum and don't care coz I asked questions and some jerks don't like that . Did you asked your self question what's really in all this kernels and custom rooms ? Are u doing banking from your phone? Are you trusting all this ppl here offering all this custom stuff? Think about it . I just got rid of my ATT coz all this network problems , got my self sweet deal for 90 bucks w month with WiFi hotspot included , what else I need , pretty much nothing . Read horror stories online maybe you'll think twice before u decide put some guys custom room into awesome as is device . Good luck
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[Q] Planning to buy G2x.. but...

Hello everyone,
Im planning to get this phone off craigslist but im afraid that the phone that i am about to purchase is going to have the reboot/freeze issue. Im not worried about the screen bleeding though. So can you tell me an easy way to identify if the phone has this problem? I know il come to know eventually once i purchase it but i wanted to see at the time of purchase from the seller. So please any suggestions are welcome. (some specific manufacturer date, or packaged date or location on the box etc ) any details that will help me if there is any specific pattern for this.
Thanks in advance.
U'll only know after u buy the phone.Save ur $ money,Sensation is just around the corner.
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Hmm
Thanks for the response. yeah i have seen that it is coming soon (and i like the way it looks) but i dont want to wait for it a month more(to be available with out contract by the same way).
Also,
1) i want to have an unlocked bootloader as a precautionary measure just incase i get to start to flashing roms
2) Heard that Sense eats lot of RAM and i want an option to remove it if i feel the same
3) Im sure it is gonna cost lot more than the G2x.
4) And i feel G2x's GPU would be powerful than the sensation.
Wat say?..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720500
This has some juicy info.
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Sorry, I meant this one...
http://www.tested.com/news/hummingbird-vs-snapdragon-vs-omap-vs-tegra-2-arm-chips-explained/1704/
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Tq
Yeah tq for the link. it is indeed informative for choosing g2x vs sensation. I am biased towards g2x and stock android. (i have a G2 and i love it). So wanted to know if i can live with those problems incase i get stuck with a bad phone :S. I dont want that to happen
Aneelll said:
Hello everyone,
Im planning to get this phone off craigslist but im afraid that the phone that i am about to purchase is going to have the reboot/freeze issue. Im not worried about the screen bleeding though. So can you tell me an easy way to identify if the phone has this problem? I know il come to know eventually once i purchase it but i wanted to see at the time of purchase from the seller. So please any suggestions are welcome. (some specific manufacturer date, or packaged date or location on the box etc ) any details that will help me if there is any specific pattern for this.
Thanks in advance.
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The only thing I can think to do to check the phone is ask the owner not to reboot the phone for any reason and when you go to purchase it look and see how long the phone has been on since reboot and If it doesn't match up with what the owner says it is probably rebooting. I have had two so far and had no real reboot issues plus from what I have read LG is aware of the issue and will be issuing an update soon for the bugs. I also debated on the Sensation but decided to stick with the G2X. Hope this helped
So here's a guy who has gotten both the galaxy s 2 and the htc sensation.
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen
From what hes been saying on twitter and the videos Ive watched i think apart from the animations and ui I think id rather have the g2x
The ui is very ram heavy but its very beautiful so I guess its a trade off.
Apologies if I'm breaking any forum rules here, but Costco currently has the G2X for $49.99 if you are adding a line. You might use this info when dealing with your CL seller! Comes with a car charger and BT headset. I'm off to Costco right now to get one!
tq
bls2633 said:
The only thing I can think to do to check the phone is ask the owner not to reboot the phone for any reason and when you go to purchase it look and see how long the phone has been on since reboot and If it doesn't match up with what the owner says it is probably rebooting. I have had two so far and had no real reboot issues plus from what I have read LG is aware of the issue and will be issuing an update soon for the bugs. I also debated on the Sensation but decided to stick with the G2X. Hope this helped
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That is a nice idea. Thank you. I know i saw this option somewhere but im only able to find "Last unplugged time".. can you help me out where i can chk this?
Found it
Found it... it is called Uptime in About Phone - > Status. will keep an eye on that.
Aneelll said:
Thanks for the response. yeah i have seen that it is coming soon (and i like the way it looks) but i dont want to wait for it a month more(to be available with out contract by the same way).
Also,
1) i want to have an unlocked bootloader as a precautionary measure just incase i get to start to flashing roms
2) Heard that Sense eats lot of RAM and i want an option to remove it if i feel the same
3) Im sure it is gonna cost lot more than the G2x.
4) And i feel G2x's GPU would be powerful than the sensation.
Wat say?..
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I have confidence that the sensation will get root access eventually, but the process to root may be harder compared to say the G2 or the G2x, and that's still an if it gets rooted. Htc and battery life is always an issue, and the sense ui plain sucks. It does not even look good and I don't know why htc insists on making it so you are forced to use it...it should be optional.
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if you havent already seen this guy post a lot of videos on the sensation.
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen
My take is I know the dev's will work it out if people actually back it.
but I am un interested....

[Q] Hello I Am New

Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
you can access market withought rooting your phone.. the only reason to root is to change stuff that are build in the operation system.. including tweaks and more..
First enjoy the phone as it is..then think about changing
baqai said:
Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
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I'd say as a new comer you'll be plenty happy without root for a long while....and it should give you the ideal chance to learn the O/S and whats involved without any chance of doing any permanent damage to your phone.....
Enjoy...its a lovely device!
baqai said:
Hello everyone, I am new both to this site and to the world of Andriod, Ordered my first ever Andriod Desire-S after being in a huge confusion between Desire-S and Galaxy-S, i found Galaxy to be too common, relatively older model and err not sexy
I am reading on all this "rooting" stuff and at this time its beyond me, i hope i can access market place and install apps and games on my new phone without having to worry about rooting it? Or am i stuck with the stuff which comes on the phone only?
My confusion is what features would rooting give me? Should i stop worrying and enjoy the existing U.I and get used to it before trying to jump at this rooting stuff
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first of all welcome to the forums
as ben said if you are a new user you will be able to enjoy your phone without rooting for a long time & also get to know more about the OS
& also there is a certain risk involved while rooting & flashing new roms & radios so don't do it until you completely know what you are doing
you can read along in the net to get more info about the platform & all other things
here are a few pages explaining the rooting buisness
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/04/15/rooting-explained-top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
i love the experience till now just few things bugging me ... coming from BB 9700 (which i still use) the battery life is very low (in comparison) so i am adapting myself to charge it every day and a half.
The default sms application randomly crashes on me so i have to use this another app i got from market place called Handcent SMS
Also i applied for swype beta and installed it but it does not seems to work across the board, it started working in few applications but not all, maybe swype is making the default sms application crash?
baqai said:
i love the experience till now just few things bugging me ... coming from BB 9700 (which i still use) the battery life is very low (in comparison) so i am adapting myself to charge it every day and a half.
The default sms application randomly crashes on me so i have to use this another app i got from market place called Handcent SMS
Also i applied for swype beta and installed it but it does not seems to work across the board, it started working in few applications but not all, maybe swype is making the default sms application crash?
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Battery usage is about right. Try playing with how often things update and turn off data when you don't need it.
Handcent is better anyway!
Hence 'beta'. Doesn't mean it'll always work.
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A day & a half from a modern smartphone is ok, I was getting a lot less when I first got DS - well, new phone, you're gonna play around with it some, no?!
Enjoy what market place has to offer & I would say don't get too sucked into rooting unless if course you have experience of flashing custom roms on other phones & someone nearby has use of xtc clip! Think it'll be a little while yet before software rooting is available for us DS users, and a while more before it becomes stable/reliable.
Peace, & enjoy
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have u encountered any problems with the phone thus far?
No problems at all so far. All native apps run smoothly, very smoothly actually.
Installed "Lookout" from Marketplace for security reasons, and installed then uninstalled an app-killer after reading that these actually cause more trouble than they're worth
That's all really apart from the occasional reboot - manual, not forced - which I think is a personal hang-up coming from blackberry!
Peace
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Hi
Been using this phone for a month now, coming from iPhone.
Truth be told, what is writen above about rooting is right. I have gone down this road and although it is fun to be able to customize almost every aspect of your phone, it needs a lot of time and involvement to get it right, not to mention the risk of damaging something.
So, I would agree in taking as must time as you can to enjoy it as it is, get to learn the OS before you tamper with it. Different mods / roms will always be here when you are ready to "play"
Have fun!!
I have a S-OFF device ... atleast the first line when i go into hboot says "SAGA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL"
errr so does this means i can do this root stuff if i want to?
Congratulations! You're one of the lucky few to have an S-OFF DS out of the box!
You can now root your DS. If you're wanting to go down the road of rooting take a look in the Android Development Section on XDA. The Gingerbreak method worked for me for gaining root access. There are risks involved with rooting so make sure you read around plenty first. If you follow the instructions carefully you shouldn't have too many problems!
Happy Rooting!
I am surprised as well I guess yeah I am lucky will read more on rooting to find what can I gain
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Buddy I wud say atleasy for a week or two enjoy your stock and get a feel of desire s...
Once done you can go for rooting and flashing custom roms...
Well wat can rooting give you...
absolute power to customise your cell as you want...
if you ever used a linux os wat a root login allows you to do...
Also for an android...if you dont root and customise...
Den its like having a Ferrari but driving at 60 km/hr speed...
Hope now you understand its significance...
Lol yeah I have worked on cli on different flavors of Linux and know what Su means although its been some time now, now I sit and give orders lol.
So far I have loved it and find it be so much better than the over hyped toy the iPhone.
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Agreed man...
Even i used to think iphone was d Phone...
but wen i researched a bit realized y android is known as 'Iphone Killer'

Why Not Root?

Why wouldn't somebody want to root their phone? I just don't understand why. I mean maybe they're worried about warranties or wanting to return the phone, but that's all I can think of. Does anybody know why people are so scared to root? My friend just refused to let me root his phone because he thinks I'm "breaking" it.
Lay out the advantages of having a rooted device and an unrooted device. Try not to mention returning a phone or warranty issues, because that isn't totally relevant to my argument with my friend (he is NOT turning in his phone anytime soon ). Right so I'm just curious. I can't imagine having an Android phone and it NOT being rooted.
Pros:
POWER (so much power)
BLN/BLD/Voodoo/Touchwake/OC/UV
Custom Kernels
Custom ROMs
Proper terminal/busybox
Adblock
ClockSync (these android phones have appalling timekeeping)
General customisation (build.prop, icons)
And of course wifikill (this links back to POWER)
etc etc
Cons:
Warranty, though hardware should be under warranty anyway as long as it has nothing to do with software malfunction (power button, usb port, etc).
Damn windows drivers
Maybe if it requires a lot of work and they do not appreciate customization or control. Perfect iPhone user if you ask me.
My brother in law had a Droid X and you had to jump through 15 hoops to root it and flash custom ROMs. He has a Galaxy Nexus now and has no desire to unlock and root it. :screwy:
My coworker has a Xoom and a Bionic and has not rooted either. Then he was complaining how long it was taking for the OTA ICS to be rolled out.
Nick N said:
Maybe if it requires a lot of work and they do not appreciate customization or control. Perfect iPhone user if you ask me.
My brother in law had a Droid X and you had to jump through 15 hoops to root it and flash custom ROMs. He has a Galaxy Nexus now and has no desire to unlock and root it. :screwy:
My coworker has a Xoom and a Bionic and has not rooted either. Then he was complaining how long it was taking for the OTA ICS to be rolled out.
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for Nexus series , unlock and root is absolutely required , because they are google's sons and pure blood of Android , with Nexuses you can do all kinda things
Nexuses are for people like us who is DEV or likes flash ROM over and over and over ...
okay , i 'm sorry that off the subject.
but , honestly , for crazy users like we are do need it , because lots thing we do daily needs root access
but for a normal user , that kinda people who doesn't know much things about flash ROM or something , it's kinda not need to be rooted...
root or not , it depends on your usage.
for the people who only use phone to talk to SMS to Gmail and to browser webpage, what roots for ???
qtwrk said:
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for Nexus series , unlock and root is absolutely required , because they are google's sons and pure blood of Android , with Nexuses you can do all kinda things
Nexuses are for people like us who is DEV or likes flash ROM over and over and over ...
okay , i 'm sorry that off the subject.
but , honestly , for crazy users like we are do need it , because lots thing we do daily needs root access
but for a normal user , that kinda people who doesn't know much things about flash ROM or something , it's kinda not need to be rooted...
root or not , it depends on your usage.
for the people who only use phone to talk to SMS to Gmail and to browser webpage, what roots for ???
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So you're arguing that unrooted is simplicity from what I gathered in that text lol ? I don't know. I'm still not convinced. I believe it is better to root. If you root you will finally be able to get that "one" thing your phone is missing. Ever single person in this world has had a moment where they say "I wish my phone could..." ... well it can if they root it
Nexus S - AOSP+ Neapolitan flavors 3.0, Glados kernel 2.8
For my friend, his reason not rooting is because he's really lazy. And the possibility of his phone bricking is too worry some for him to root especially when he doesn't really need to.
When I was deciding not to root or not was because of the warranty. I just realized I could lock it again and return it for warranty if anything
Well, how should I suppose to say this. The only reason I buy Android phone is because it could be rooted. And this is where all the fun is!!!
You'll only brick it if you're are "smart" enough not to read what the ROM or whatever you're using supports your phone. Warranty issues are not includes for just such reason lol. If somebody can give me 3 point how rooting is better I will praise you and my friend. So fair stock:0 rooted:a heavy amount
Nexus S - AOSP+ Neapolitan flavors 3.0, Glados kernel 2.8
I am always worried of the EFS folder
BTW : would that folder be at risk if the device is rooted ? and would rooted devices are at more risk that some app would screw an original one ?
Because most people only care about 3 things
1) Can it make calls
2) Can it send SMS/MMS
3) Can I browse the web
If a phone matches that criteria most are good to go
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I am not a dev, nor am I a programmer. The most I can do is follow instructions and edit simple things like font style and color in XMLs. I don't dare flashing bleeding edge stuff, so I always read reviews and go with something other people have tried first.
Still, I think that for an Android phone, rooting is much better than not rooting if you want to get the most out of your money. The performance and battery life can be improved, depending on the phone model, one can get a mild improvement (like with Nexus S) or dramatic change that makes you feel as if your phone gets a new life. Some people may not be inclined to backup often or spend time read up on XDA, but if they have a friend/relative who likes those stuff, it would be nice to have that friend/relative pick a stable setup and put those in (and set periodic auto backup for apps/messages). When others are whining "updates where? I have waited for MONTHS for GB/ICS", custom ROM users are already enjoying the new features.
Warranty still applies as long as you have the card. I've fixed the power button of my under-warranty LG Optimus One and they got it done with no questions asked. I know someone who had their Nexus S bricked due to wrong flashing and they still get to claim warranty.
If a person only uses their phone for calls, text and the occasional browsing, buying an Android phone is probably a waste of money.
Hey budday...
To answer the initial question as to why some one, but in this case I do not want to root is out of fear bricking my phone. Also I've found it fairly easy to customize without ..but in this case if you can lay out an easily read diagram or some sh!t then maybe people(me) will be more compelled to. Or for your sake make your argument a better one !
Especially with this ridiculously delayed OTA for my nexus ..and with no indication as to why! ? That's what I really wanna know!
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Maybe they want to leave it stock to not deal with the headache. Most ppl root just to tether for free and thats it.
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My work place is gey. In order to access the Corporate Exchange server using the Good for Enterprise app, my phone has to be unrooted. The Good app sees that I have superuser binary on my phone and won't allow access. I can't use my phone without it rooted, I'll go nuts. So I ditched Good, and my phone stays rooted. Why are Corporations afraid of rooted phones?
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Election Day said:
Try calling someone's customer support and explain any problem you are having in full detail. They will still treat you like a complete idiot that does not have a clue what he/she is talking about.
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LOL, i know what you're saying. but they don't do that to insult you or imply you don't know anything. They don't know who you are or how much you know. It is simply the best way to approach a problem. If a user said they did something, how do you really know? (e.g. user says they rebooted the computer. but what they did was log out and log back in)
Anyways, there are different reasons why someone might not wanna root. If they don't wanna hear it then stop pushing. who doesn't hate that religious guy insisting you go to his church? when you keep pushing people to root you are that guy.
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fergie716 said:
Because most people only care about 3 things
1) Can it make calls
2) Can it send SMS/MMS
3) Can I browse the web
If a phone matches that criteria most are good to go
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Any finished (decent) ROM does that better and it does ALOT MORE
Nexus S - AOSP+ Neapolitan flavors 3.0, Glados kernel 2.8
As a new Nexus S user who is yet to root, it is something I am planning on doing, but the shear number of ROMs and kernel's is very daunting, and it seems I'm going to have to set aside a fair few hours when I finally decide to do it. I'm sure once it's done I'll be hooked, it's just the initial jump that's delaying it for me.
Due to the huge number of people involved in Nexus S development (and this is not a bad thing by any means!) I am finding it difficult to find a suitable starting point.

development died?

it feels like everything for the g pro 2 is slowly fading away i really hope people keep this phone alive and that new development takes place, we need support from developers for this phone its fantastic and i cant help but feel it will never get anywhere as near as good as it could be, someone should look up bump for this phone as using that could possibly unlock or let us put custom kernels on this phone i would do it myself but i simply dont know how, please keep this phone alive!
the problem is the small number of users of this phone and limited market.
not to mention it's been eclipsed by the G3.
Well a custom kernel with OC & undervolting capabilities would be what i really miss at the moment, tho this handset is so well made and so stable IMO that even a flash-freak would be totaly satisfied with it's stock set up. May the new Snaps 805 are dominating the market at the moment, but who cares to get even faster when you are already fast. I am totaly in love with my F350S and i will stick with it at least for a year & half or maybe more, as it seems that there's no plan for a successor right now. I only hope that we will be in the LG's lollipop update list... Let's all together pray!
oh yeah i completely agree this phone is amazing on stock everything works fantasticly, for me though i really feel the need for at least a real recovery as theres always things i want to change but i do not dare without the backup of my system, i think its a real shame the g3 is in the limelight as to be honest ive used one and i feel this is a much better phone the g3 i used the UI lagged alot and this phone feels a hell of a lot nicer to use and to look at in my opinon i just hope we get more support in the future and from what i've read we should get lolipop next year sometime around march i hope its true!!
bjscott55 said:
it feels like everything for the g pro 2 is slowly fading away i really hope people keep this phone alive and that new development takes place, we need support from developers for this phone its fantastic and i cant help but feel it will never get anywhere as near as good as it could be, someone should look up bump for this phone as using that could possibly unlock or let us put custom kernels on this phone i would do it myself but i simply dont know how, please keep this phone alive!
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its great phone , but seems like it is dead even before it can take birth :silly: one thing for sure , as long as this phone is not in American market , development will remain dead , sad , however there are tons of stuff on chinese forums , but language barrier is making it difficult to get access to those stuff
4g_enabler said:
its great phone , but seems like it is dead even before it can take birth :silly: one thing for sure , as long as this phone is not in American market , development will remain dead , sad , however there are tons of stuff on chinese forums , but language barrier is making it difficult to get access to those stuff
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Would you be able to post the link? I cant seem to find the right forums id like to have a look though and see what i can find, i belive they was the first to have a custom recovery well its more like a semi-recovery but you know what i mean, so if anyone is going to do anything with this phone it will be them.
bjscott55 said:
Would you be able to post the link? I cant seem to find the right forums id like to have a look though and see what i can find, i belive they was the first to have a custom recovery well its more like a semi-recovery but you know what i mean, so if anyone is going to do anything with this phone it will be them.
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i want to change baseband on my g pro 2 D83810b and enable WCDMA 850 1900 which are already enabled on brothers and sisters of D83810b ( F350S/L/K), that's one hell of a reason , why i am trying to mess around with software on my phone , while doing that, english websites were unable to give answers , so i went to chinese search engine called baidu.com ( chinese google as they call it !! ) and there i was able to find people who were trying to do exactly same thing , i mean reason might be different but what we do is same , developing and customizing ROM on phone so that we can get what we want out of it , i found below links that pointed me new direction ( however still far away form what i need !! ) you can use that Chinese Google to find what you want , situation becomes worst when you realize that they have their own software and system which is little different from rest of the world , making this task almost impossible for me !! i suspect that even Russian search engines could be helpful as well , however not as much as Chinese one !!
below are links i found when i googled ( chinese google !! )"flash F350S to D838"
http://www.sonyue.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=83003
http://bbs.sonyue.com/thread-83415-1-1.html
P.S: help for help
4g_enabler said:
i want to change baseband on my g pro 2 D83810b and enable WCDMA 850 1900 which are already enabled on brothers and sisters of D83810b ( F350S/L/K), that's one hell of a reason , why i am trying to mess around with software on my phone , while doing that, english websites were unable to give answers , so i went to chinese search engine called baidu.com ( chinese google as they call it !! ) and there i was able to find people who were trying to do exactly same thing , i mean reason might be different but what we do is same , developing and customizing ROM on phone so that we can get what we want out of it , i found below links that pointed me new direction ( however still far away form what i need !! ) you can use that Chinese Google to find what you want , situation becomes worst when you realize that they have their own software and system which is little different from rest of the world , making this task almost impossible for me !! i suspect that even Russian search engines could be helpful as well , however not as much as Chinese one !!
below are links i found when i googled ( chinese google !! )"flash F350S to D838"
http://www.sonyue.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=83003
http://bbs.sonyue.com/thread-83415-1-1.html
P.S: help for help
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This is another forum thread (in chinese) which I found. So far no sign of Lollipop yet. Do hope all of us get the love from LG real soon since G3 is getting it now.
http://bbs.gfan.com/forum-1470-1.html
This phone is really dead, No developement nor does any dev show any interest. Stuck with this piece.
kailashnj said:
This phone is really dead, No developement nor does any dev show any interest. Stuck with this piece.
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Looks like no Recovery no rom's nothing ... if Testers are there i can try
4g_enabler said:
its great phone , but seems like it is dead even before it can take birth :silly: one thing for sure , as long as this phone is not in American market , development will remain dead , sad , however there are tons of stuff on chinese forums , but language barrier is making it difficult to get access to those stuff
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jackeagle said:
Looks like no Recovery no rom's nothing ... if Testers are there i can try
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There are testers im one of meny, you'll love this phone as much as we do!
bjscott55 said:
There are testers im one of meny, you'll love this phone as much as we do!
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we need developers too , along with testers , who can dedicate their whole time while developing this ROM
4g_enabler said:
we need developers too , along with testers , who can dedicate their whole time while developing this ROM
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bjscott55 said:
There are testers im one of meny, you'll love this phone as much as we do!
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The Reason Behind Lack of development is Loki Based Bootloader (Security) Which prevents development for the device ...There is way for removing it like other LG Phone like G3 and all but the Process is risky stuff but still there is nothing like inpossible stuff only thing is bit risky but if it gets Unlocked many Rom's will enter like CM and all We are trying to unlock it but we dont own the device hence rely on tester
jackeagle said:
The Reason Behind Lack of development is Loki Based Bootloader (Security) Which prevents development for the device ...There is way for removing it like other LG Phone like G3 and all but the Process is risky stuff but still there is nothing like inpossible stuff only thing is bit risky but if it gets Unlocked many Rom's will enter like CM and all We are trying to unlock it but we dont own the device hence rely on tester
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Please count me in , i will be your tester , i can send screenshots of results , i have D838 10B , also i can provide you Stock ROM from my device
Did anyone ask for a development for gp2?.. i will try my best to give u guys what i can..
Sorry was away due to work family n i had sold my device as well.. well now i have a new gp2 .. so will try to help out the community again..
bring our device into the competition please.. what should we do about unlocking? asking LG ?

I have a question about Validus-draconis -7.1.1.Release.v13-OFFICIAL-20170128- 0315

I have a question about the charging animation with Validus-draconis -7.1.1.Release.v13-OFFICIAL-20170128- 0315 the charging animation that I mean is the one when the phone is off but plugged in on my zte zmax the backlight won't turn off how do I fix this? I like this ROM a lot I really do and I must say to ground zero u guys did a great job but I really need some help on this one if someone out there can help.
juggalo19076 said:
I have a question about the charging animation with Validus-draconis -7.1.1.Release.v13-OFFICIAL-20170128- 0315 the charging animation that I mean is the one when the phone is off but plugged in on my zte zmax the backlight won't turn off how do I fix this? I like this ROM a lot I really do and I must say to ground zero u guys did a great job but I really need some help on this one if someone out there can help.
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Official support for that device was dropped a long time ago, no one currently on the team owns one.
Crap and got ya I'm guessing that also means u don't have a direction to suggest for me to look toward to fix that on a phone in general. It honestly sucks that it was discontinued cuz I do honestly like this phone and can't get new one till tax time and wish I could work out the few issues with this ROM on this phone so after I get new phone I can use this one as gameboy etc.... If u know what I mean but anyway ty for the reply and if u think of anything plz feel free to pass idea
juggalo19076 said:
Crap and got ya I'm guessing that also means u don't have a direction to suggest for me to look toward to fix that on a phone in general. It honestly sucks that it was discontinued cuz I do honestly like this phone and can't get new one till tax time and wish I could work out the few issues with this ROM on this phone so after I get new phone I can use this one as gameboy etc.... If u know what I mean but anyway ty for the reply and if u think of anything plz feel free to pass idea
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Not sure what to tell you, 7.1.1 was a long time ago and I don't remember running into that issue on my devices. I know what it's like having to wait to upgrade, wish I could be more help
I know it's been a while but I have odd request
As I was told a while back no one here has a z970 anymore if I bought a few extras and mailed them to you guys would anyone be willing to help me finish validus for the zmax? I'm paying.... Let me know I Wana finish it but can't alone
So wait I know its been a while since anyone besides me even looked at this but I got last few questions suck as ota update option was there any updates ever? If so how do I download them it just says error downloading when I try. Also is there anyone who would be interested in helping me make this ROM current again and many add to it I'm thinking about buying a few z970s and mailing them out to ppl who would like to if there is anyone else out there except me ice be willing to pay idk why I'm obsessed on this topic but I am lol let me know please and ty
juggalo19076 said:
So wait I know its been a while since anyone besides me even looked at this but I got last few questions suck as ota update option was there any updates ever? If so how do I download them it just says error downloading when I try. Also is there anyone who would be interested in helping me make this ROM current again and many add to it I'm thinking about buying a few z970s and mailing them out to ppl who would like to if there is anyone else out there except me ice be willing to pay idk why I'm obsessed on this topic but I am lol let me know please and ty
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The zmax has been out for over 6 years now and development for it has been dead since about 2016. As far as the stock firmware goes it was never updated past android 4.4. Everything 5.0 and up came in the form of custom roms. As for buying multiple Z970 phones and sending them to people to try to revive development for it, good luck. It was a budget phone from the moment it came out and by today's standards its specs are abysmal. I seriously doubt any developer worth their salt would be interested. The best advice I can give you is to just get a better, newer phone, and if you want custom roms look for one that's already supported. If you need to go back to stock there should be some stock rom zips you can flash through TWRP. I know at one point I had them on android file host, though I haven't checked in years.
Masterchief87 said:
The zmax has been out for over 6 years now and development for it has been dead since about 2016. As far as the stock firmware goes it was never updated past android 4.4. Everything 5.0 and up came in the form of custom roms. As for buying multiple Z970 phones and sending them to people to try to revive development for it, good luck. It was a budget phone from the moment it came out and by today's standards its specs are abysmal. I seriously doubt any developer worth their salt would be interested. The best advice I can give you is to just get a better, newer phone, and if you want custom roms look for one that's already supported. If you need to go back to stock there should be some stock rom zips you can flash through TWRP. I know at one point I had them on android file host, though I haven't checked in years.
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Got ya any idea on the backlight issue for charge animations or how to change them on this phone I've tried everything I can think of with no luck

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