[Q] seeking to buy a 7 pro - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guys
htc singapore tells me the GSM 7 pro is for the UK only and they're not gonna bring it in, which leaves me the option of importing one
i'm looking at clove and not expansys cos it's so damn expensive on their site
my questions..
1. is clove reliable?
2. are there any other reliable sites that ships to singapore?
3. can the 7 pro be chevron-ed?
4. it supports gsm 900/1800/2100 in the uk. singapore uses the same bands. does it mean it'll work too?
sorry for dumb questions. this is the first time i'm buying a phone from outside of my own country
thanks

Hello,
I just thought that I would let you know that the 7 Pro is available not only in the UK, but also in Germany (through O2) and Luxembourg (through LuxGSM).
I have one these devices, and I can honestly say that the phone is great.
I purchased my one without contract when it first came out, and it cost the same as what Expansys are asking.
I don't think that you will in fact find it much cheaper (not as a new phone at least).
Good luck!!
P.S. Yes, it will work in Singapore so long as the phone that you get is not simlocked.

clove is cheaper than expansys is
i'm just wondering if clove is as reliable as expansys is
are there any other reliable online retailers that would ship to singapore?

I will tell you, of all WP7 devices the 7 pro and the surround are in a tie for the worst.

i've heard
but the dvp is also in a bad state with hangs and stuff
if the 7 pro is really that bad, then i'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place given that
1. i need a keyboard. big, fat fingers hate touchscreen keyboards
2. there are only 2 choices, 7pro and dvp. lg quantum is not sold here in singapore, neither would i want it cos it looks....bad
3. the dvp. just go to it's sub-forum to see the complaints. getting better, but i would rather not deal with a troublesome phone which dell singapore says they have no idea when they're bringing in, if they would even bring it
4. my touch pro is on life support. it was showing me funky screens yesterday, with delayed sms messages of up to 12 hours (timestamp is correct, it's just when it actually appears on my phone) and some keys on my keyboard is actually alternating between registering multiple presses and not registering anything at all

blanket said:
i've heard
but the dvp is also in a bad state with hangs and stuff
if the 7 pro is really that bad, then i'm really stuck between a rock and a hard place given that
1. i need a keyboard. big, fat fingers hate touchscreen keyboards
2. there are only 2 choices, 7pro and dvp. lg quantum is not sold here in singapore, neither would i want it cos it looks....bad
3. the dvp. just go to it's sub-forum to see the complaints. getting better, but i would rather not deal with a troublesome phone which dell singapore says they have no idea when they're bringing in, if they would even bring it
4. my touch pro is on life support. it was showing me funky screens yesterday, with delayed sms messages of up to 12 hours (timestamp is correct, it's just when it actually appears on my phone) and some keys on my keyboard is actually alternating between registering multiple presses and not registering anything at all
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My suggestion is get the 8 gig dell venue pro. There are no issues with the 8 gig, the issues are all due to the poor memory cards used in the 16 gigs. I recommend picking up an 8 gig and upgrading it to a 32 gig. It's an easy process and leads to easily the best of all WP7 devices.

z33dev33l said:
My suggestion is get the 8 gig dell venue pro. There are no issues with the 8 gig, the issues are all due to the poor memory cards used in the 16 gigs. I recommend picking up an 8 gig and upgrading it to a 32 gig. It's an easy process and leads to easily the best of all WP7 devices.
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i actually emailed htc and dell on warranty issues
htc singapore is willing to take it in for a fee, dell singapore just said NO
i'll wait till next week to place an order. meanwhile, i'll just try asking dell singapore again
i'm keen on the dvp too, just so u know. i'm only getting the 7 pro out of desperation
Thanks for the suggestion anyway, will keep it in mind before making my purchase

blanket said:
i actually emailed htc and dell on warranty issues
htc singapore is willing to take it in for a fee, dell singapore just said NO
i'll wait till next week to place an order. meanwhile, i'll just try asking dell singapore again
i'm keen on the dvp too, just so u know. i'm only getting the 7 pro out of desperation
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I understand, it's well worth it and it is without a doubt the best looking phone out there today. The 16 gigs are the only ones with issues... major screw up on dells part but they've been reasonable about it. If you want the WP7 phone that works best the DVP is it

I can confirm Clove are 100% reliable, got mine sent from them.
I do however, live in the UK but i'm sure you will be fine

kappo78 said:
I can confirm Clove are 100% reliable, got mine sent from them.
I do however, live in the UK but i'm sure you will be fine
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thank you very much
this is what i'm looking for

i just called dell singapore
the cso doesn't know what i'm talking about and insists that i'm talking about the streak
oh man
seems like it's the 7pro

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Older phones with keyboards

I recently won a T-Mobile Text2Win Promotion that is giving me a Samsung Behold and a year of unlimited service. I'm selling the Behold and buying a TP2.
Interestingly enough, my girlfriend won as well. She wants a phone with a keyboard but doesn't want to spend a lot. Does anyone have any suggestions for a (used is fine) phone I could buy her that meets the following requirements?:
Full keyboard
Works with T-Mobile USA
Runs WM6 or Android
3G and GPS would be awesome.
$150 or less, but open to higher priced suggestions.
A touch screen would be nice but it's definitely not a requirement.
I found a Wing on ebay and that might be exactly what she's looking for, but I thought some other options would be nice to find. Any ideas would be great!
Thanks
How about a Blue Angel? It is about $45 dollars on ebay with a dock, and has a full keyboard, touchscreen, SD card slot and runs WM6.5. The only problem is that it doesn't have 3G. I have a bluetooth GPS receiver, so you could always use that. Although you would have to unlock it first, that takes about 2 minutes.
Seppuko said:
I recently won a T-Mobile Text2Win Promotion that is giving me a Samsung Behold and a year of unlimited service. I'm selling the Behold and buying a TP2.
Interestingly enough, my girlfriend won as well. She wants a phone with a keyboard but doesn't want to spend a lot. Does anyone have any suggestions for a (used is fine) phone I could buy her that meets the following requirements?:
Full keyboard
Works with T-Mobile USA
Runs WM6 or Android
3G and GPS would be awesome.
$150 or less, but open to higher priced suggestions.
A touch screen would be nice but it's definitely not a requirement.
I found a Wing on ebay and that might be exactly what she's looking for, but I thought some other options would be nice to find. Any ideas would be great!
Thanks
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Have a look on marketplace, sometimes there are very good deals!
cmstackar said:
How about a Blue Angel? It is about $45 dollars on ebay with a dock, and has a full keyboard, touchscreen, SD card slot and runs WM6.5. The only problem is that it doesn't have 3G. I have a bluetooth GPS receiver, so you could always use that. Although you would have to unlock it first, that takes about 2 minutes.
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Oh wow I've never seen one of these before. I will definitely look into this, thanks!
orb3000 said:
Have a look on marketplace, sometimes there are very good deals!
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I will keep an eye out there, but it seems most people are selling newer phones for 200+
Seppuko said:
I will keep an eye out there, but it seems most people are selling newer phones for 200+
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A Kaiser\Tilt would fit the bill
Maybe the Kaiser, it was my first WM device and I love it. I hear they're pretty cheap these days, and they fufill all the requirements listed. It also has a very active community (especially ROM development).
The devs have even gotten almost full Android with the Hero's Sense UI and full GPU support (however, no Camera and the android Wi-Fi is still pretty experimental, and GPS doesn't work).
However, the device is incompatible with T-Mobile USA's 3G frequencies, so you'd be using EDGE only. But I'm sure you could get a good deal in the XDA Marketplace. Especially if you bought one with a broken screen and replaced it yourself (not for the faint of heart though). And even if you buy one locked to another carrier (e.g. AT&T Tilt), you could still unlock it yourself.
Dave
Seppuko said:
I will keep an eye out there, but it seems most people are selling newer phones for 200+
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Well perhaps the most, but if you have a good constant look there are some -200 deals for sure.
Other day I saw a guy sell a device (not remember which HTC) in less than 100usd...

Orange UK abandoned HTC?

My phone is on my company's business contract, so I have no choice but to be with Orange (UK). It came up for renewal about 6 months ago but they don't seem to have released a single interesting phone in that whole time. The Hero is the only phone that's even close, but it's so old now I don't really fancy committing to it for 18 months. The Touch Pro 2 was supposed to be out when I started looking but they withdrew it before I had a chance to get one. Later the HD 2 seems to suffer a similar fate. Someone from Orange phoned me last month to ask why I hadn't upgraded yet (obviously concerned that I was getting ready to leave) and she said the HTC Bravo would probably be out in March, which I later worked out was similar to a Google Nexus and so quite interesting. I phoned to check today, but they still have no idea if/when it will arrive.
Does anyone else agree that there's something a bit strange going on when they don't properly release a high-end smart phone for 6 months or more? I mentioned to them I was suspicious that they were just trying not to distract attention from the iPhone but, of course, she didn't offer any useful comment.
The main question is, does anyone have any idea what Oranges plans are regarding high-end smart phones? Is it worth holding out for them to finally release one of the many iPhone-eclipsing devices, or should I be trying to convince my company to open an account elsewhere?
I had been looking on Orange's website to see if they were offering the HD2 as an upgrade. As far as I know they still aren't even listing it but I got an HD2 through Phones 4 U as an upgrade and as a loyal Orange customer got a 10% discount on the Dolphin 35 tariff (albeit for 24 months) as well as the handset for £50 minus £50 for trading in ANY old phone.
The only downside is that I'm now wondering if I should have waited for Win Phone 7 if it's released as early as Sept...
I had been looking on Orange's website to see if they were offering the HD2 as an upgrade
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That reminds me, I meant to mention that the Orange Business website hasn't barely changed their HTC section since I first started looking. That includes the HD Touch Pro 2 which (as far as I can tell) was available for about 1 week, 6 months ago. Maybe they're just trying to make it less obvious to the casual observer that Apple is pressuring them to bury anything better than the iPhone.
I hadn't thought about third party phone shops for a Business account. Can anyone confirm that's an option?
I read somewhere that Orange UK are not doing WM till 7series comes out now
Seems like they're in no hurry with Android either. Since the Hero they've only gone further down-market (Tattoo), passing over several higher end possibilities.
Anybody care to comment on my pet conspiracy theory about cutting out distractions from the JesusPhone™?

No Smartphones bigger than 5.7 inches in the U.S?

Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
cryingthug said:
nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.
As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
Better For The Eyes
mikkej2k said:
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.
cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
nathanotis said:
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
omniphil said:
The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
nathanotis said:
How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....
cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )
shdwphnx said:
The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
Slbtrb79 said:
Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
mikkej2k said:
What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Slbtrb79 said:
Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.
Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.

Wanted to Buy Note 7 but its no more, Which phone to buy now? or wait?

hi,i live in india,
i was using S7 edge one and half month ago, i was enjoying it, i sold it because i knew that note 7 is coming,
note 7 is the best cool looking smartphone, but its now RIPPED, i have no phone right now,
which phone i should buy now,
i dont want to buy Google pixel,xl, because its made by HTC and HTC already closed many their service center in india because of less response, so no support in my area.
iphone 7, since iphone 6s, because got bad reputation in india, because of B GRADE Batches in india, 95% of their phone have dust issue in display and in camera lens, i also replace my 6s for 6 time new boxes, still i was suffering for this issue, apple is sending bad batch in india because people are dont look so closely to dust, but its bad for those who cares about these things especially me,
i want a phone which i can use Long period a high end phone, good to hold and Standard in people, it should not like "cheap phone"
please suggest me ,thanks in advance,

Oneplus 7 Price increase?

just a quick question:
has it EVER happened, that oneplus increased the prices of a phone after it came out?
for example: oneplus 7 pro 8gb costs 760€ now, they sell Very Well and immediately sell out the whole stock. 1-2 weeks later the phone is available again but with higher price (e.g 800€ for same 8gb variant) because people are OBVIOUSLY loving the phone and are prepared to pay (even more).. This would be a **** move of course, but a wonderful business strategy..and it's not like it has never happened in the business world. The question is: could oneplus do such a thing? or did they ever do it? (I am closely watching\interested in this company only since 6t so I don't know it that well).
I'm guessing they can't afford to do so with the current model as it will hurt future sales. They will however incorporate the price hike in the "next model" release which most likely would be just a "limited edition" color or co-branding. That's what I would do business wise anyway...
sensationvsgalaxy said:
just a quick question:
has it EVER happened, that oneplus increased the prices of a phone after it came out?
for example: oneplus 7 pro 8gb costs 760€ now, they sell Very Well and immediately sell out the whole stock. 1-2 weeks later the phone is available again but with higher price (e.g 800€ for same 8gb variant) because people are OBVIOUSLY loving the phone and are prepared to pay (even more).. This would be a **** move of course, but a wonderful business strategy..and it's not like it has never happened in the business world. The question is: could oneplus do such a thing? or did they ever do it? (I am closely watching\interested in this company only since 6t so I don't know it that well).
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I have had most OnePlus phones and I've never seen that happen.
No manufacturer in their right mind would do this. They know their cost to build/develop the device, and, understand their sales forecast, and how to price it from the release date. It is all part of the product cycle.

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