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accessing 3g

I have an unlocked touch cruise with t-mobile in the us, but don’t understand how, or if I can, use the 3g function for internet data access. My questions are as follows:
1. How do I find out if my phone is the European version or the US version (each has differing specs on accessing the 3g network).
2. If it is the US version, will I be able to access the 3g network on t-mobile or AT&T in the US?
3. If it is the European version, will I be able to access the 3g network.
4. How do I know whether my phone is accessing 3g or not?
5. Is there a software fix to allow me to use either the European version or us version to access 3G.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Dave

there's only one version of the Cruise out:
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=798
These are the frequencies:
Network HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz (Europe), 850/1900 MHz (USA)
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
It's triband 3G. It is currently working on ATT 3G in the US. I don't know about TMobile is there 3G network up and running, and if so I don't remember what frequency that might be at.
The icons at the top point to what type of network E/G is Edge, while 3G/H is 3G.
You can go into the Phone Settings under Band and see some of the different frequency choices. You can force it to be on Edge/GSM there or Auto (which will pick up 3G if it's available).

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hambola said:
there's only one version of the Cruise out:
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=798
These are the frequencies:
Network HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz (Europe), 850/1900 MHz (USA)
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz (The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
It's triband 3G. It is currently working on ATT 3G in the US. I don't know about TMobile is there 3G network up and running, and if so I don't remember what frequency that might be at.
The icons at the top point to what type of network E/G is Edge, while 3G/H is 3G.
You can go into the Phone Settings under Band and see some of the different frequency choices. You can force it to be on Edge/GSM there or Auto (which will pick up 3G if it's available).
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As I understand it (for internet data access) the european version (as alluded to in your quote) works at Network frequency: HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz (Europe), the American version at the frequencies: 850/1900 MHz (USA). If my phone is the european version, then it works at 2100, and will not access usa networks, unless there is a fix.
t-mobile is 3G in my area.
How to I access the "phone settings under band". I cannot find this on my phone.
Thanks

What I am saying is the device can function on all 3 frequencies listed on the specifications page. I believe the Tmobile 3G frequencies are 1700/2100. You might want to search on the forum and check it out for sure. If it is 1700 you are out of luck. Here are some threads discussing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391339
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390449
Go to Start -> Settings -> Band tab. If you don't have it, there is a registry tweak that enables that tab.

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hambola said:
What I am saying is the device can function on all 3 frequencies listed on the specifications page. I believe the Tmobile 3G frequencies are 1700/2100. You might want to search on the forum and check it out for sure. If it is 1700 you are out of luck. Here are some threads discussing it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427700
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417437
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391339
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390449
Go to Start -> Settings -> Band tab. If you don't have it, there is a registry tweak that enables that tab.
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hmmm, htc told me there were two versions that the european version does not have the capability to switch to the us frequencies, which the specs list as 850 / 1900, but is only using the 2100 frequency. I'm not sure htc tech support is always accurate.
However when I go to the band tab via comm manager, settings, phone, band, it shows me (found with your assistance) that I can select gsm (1900 + 850) + UMTS(1900+850). I assume I should use this setting rather then auto.
T-mobile claims they use the 1900 and 850 bands. I am still at Edge.
I have not had time to read the threads you listed, and will do that later today. Perhaps I will have more questions then, but for now, did I select the correct gsm settings?
Thanks,
Dave

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ok, read the posts you mentioned.
More information about differing versions
from phonescoop.com:
Versions of touch cruise for different regions support different 3G frequency bands.Eurasian version is WCDMA 2100 only)
I assume that since the 850 and 1900 is listed in my setup program, I have the usa version, if phonescoop is correct about two versions.
Since t-mobile works on 1700 I assume I cannot have 3g with them.
Will I get 3g with AT&T?

i personally have never heard of 2 different versions of the Cruise. I have one presumably imported from the UK and works on 3G here.

Btw the Cruise manual says this:
FunctionalityHSDPA/UMTS: 2100MHz for Europe, 850/1900MHz for USA HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, and 1900)
There is only one version of the Cruise.
Also a caveat about the bands available in the Band tab of the Phone Settings. I believe some options might be available in the drop down even though the phone doesn't support it. Best thing is to look at the phone specs.

Mmmm... My Polaris shows this:

Bodisson said:
Mmmm... My Polaris shows this:
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Bodisson said:
Mmmm... My Polaris shows this:
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Bodison,
My phone has the same features in your picture.
1. Hambola states
"Also a caveat about the bands available in the Band tab of the Phone Settings. I believe some options might be available in the drop down even though the phone doesn't support it. Best thing is to look at the phone specs."
suggesting what's in the picture may not be in the phone.
2. He also states:
a.
"FunctionalityHSDPA/UMTS: 2100MHz for Europe, 850/1900MHz for USA HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, and 1900)
b.There is only one version of the Cruise."
The phone specs restate what he states in 2a.
A and B seem to contradict one another. Unless it means that the phone is capable of all the MHz frequencies mentioned (850, 1900, and 2100), and when used in Europe it accesses 2100 frequency, and in the US the other frequency. This is not clearly stated in the specs.
If the allusion to functionality does not mean that the frequency used depends on where the phone is used, then therefore there are two versions, with hsdpa/umts for europe (2100) and another for USA (850/1900). In any case, HTC (probably not the ulimate source of reliability) states that there are indeed two versions.
According to Hambola's reference to the caution that what is in the picture may not be in the phone, what is in the picture shows what is in the specs of the phone. He is therefore suggesting that what is in the specs of the phone (as shown in the picture) are not reliable. Not sure what the implications of this are.
I have been reading other posts about 3g with ATT. Is it safe to assume that (if there is one version of the phone, or I have the one that is able to access the US bands as shown in Bodison's picture), that I will be smokin when I switch to ATT in January when my contract runs out?

I am pretty sure there is only one version of the Cruise and it has those 3 bands listed for 3G. In fact there are guys on this forum that have the UK Orbit O2 running on the ATT 3G stateside.

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In any case, I tested my phone with a buddy's ATT sim card and was able to access 3G for browsing just fine.
I agree there is one version, though the HTC rep told me otherwise, he was probably....

Does the HTC HD2 work with at&t?

phones that are from htc that are in europe and asia..for example, the htc hd2 and hd.. do they work with cell phone providers like at&t? here are the specs for the htc hd2:
Network -
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz

I highly suggest you read the specs and find out what band it supports and cross reference it with the bands they use in the US (wikipedia has the answer to that)

totally wrong place for this, but I'm not a mod so...
Any GSM phone supporting quad-band or tri-band with 850 (you need 850MHz at least, 1900 helps in some places) will work on the network. Many phones support this for gsm/EDGE. Very few phones support this with 3g.
If you want to use att 3g, look for a phone with 850/1900MHz support on "UMTS", "WCDMA", "3G", "HS(D/U/blanks)PA", etc. Basically, if it is marketed for AT&T, Rogers (in canada), or some south american providers (claro?), you'll be good.
Most phones will support 2g, though.
EDIT: As an example, based on those specs you list, the phone WILL work with EDGE, but not 3G/HSDPA.

All correct from poly_poly-man + Telstra in Australia uses the same 3G band as AT&T so there you may go shopping

[Q] Importing phones

Hey guys I just wanted to get some info on what phone will be possible for importing.
I live in Australia and am contemplating to a smartphone from US and A (why do they get the best phones the earliest?). But the issue is that I am still in my contract (Optus/Virgin). I have little idea about the different GSM radios, but still unsure.
(I was planning on importing the EPIC 4G but, like the rest of the world, we don't use CDMA). Now I am contemplating to import the Motorola Atrix 4G (I am pretty certain this wont be made available here).
Would AT&T's services work in Optus (with voice and data/voice only/no support)?
How could I unlock the device if I were to purchase it? (carrier only/manufacturer only?)
I hope this thread can be useful for other members.

AT&T devices work in 850 frequencies for 3G networks, check with your local provider, as for unlock you can find them all around the WWW from 8 to 30USD depending device.

Thanks orb.
Here's the situation, I'm in metro-area on Optus connection.
1. Telstra (this company is equivalent to AT&T in USA)
3G UMTS850 (Australia wide 3G network, aka NextG)
3G UMTS2100 (3GIS Network shared with 3)
2G GSM900
2G GSM1800
2. Optus (this company is equivalent to Verizon in USA)
3G UMTS2100
3G UMTS900 (rural network)
2G GSM900
2G GSM1800
3. Vodafone Hutchison Australia (This company is equivalent to T-mobile in USA)
3G UMTS2100
3G UMTS900 (rural network)
3G UMTS850 (limited metro network)
2G GSM900
2G GSM1800
Would the Motorola Atrix 4G be compatible with my plan?
If not, what would it be compatible on?

You may chack the device bands, from what I found:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
Reference
If you ask me what would I choose my answer is an HTC branded device, just check what model you want and get the band specs.
This is a great data base site.
Let us know what you got!

Here is a bit of a reference for you. It has phones for your frequencies, 4 inch screen or bigger, Android and a 5MP or more camera.
You can look at any phone with the "Phone Finder" button.
Ian

3G problem in SNS

Hi folks, I using SNS form 4 months. I am not able to see any option related 3G data option in "Mobile Network Settings" screen.
I am in India.
Android Version 2.3.3
My network provider operates GSM Tri-band (GSM 900/1800/1900) or Quad-band (GSM 850/900/1800/1900).
Any additional information also appreciative.

the original model i9020 only works on 1700/2100 for 3G
and quad band for voice
possibly that's why you are unable to get 3G
you might want to sell it and get the AT&T version of SNS that operates on the 850/1900 for 3G

mine is i9020 but it will support for quad band 900 and my network provider is operating at Quad 900. If I am wrong correct me please.

sriharshavr.y said:
mine is i9020 but it will support for quad band 900 and my network provider is operating at Quad 900. If I am wrong correct me please.
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the AT&T version is the I9020A and should work on the proper frequencies. Keep in mind that voice and data use separate bands.

well true
http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
Tri-band HSPA: 900, 2100, 1700
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it does suppose to work on 900 for 3G
did you configure the APN settings for your cell phone provider?

By default APN's are configured by network provider. I am getting only EDGE connection. I have tried with *#*#4636#*#* and tried to change preferred network type to "WCDMA only" and "WCDMA Preferred" where default network type is "GSM/CDMA auto". But everything is in vain.
My network provider is Airtel. Any suggestions?

"My network provider operates GSM Tri-band (GSM 900/1800/1900) or Quad-band (GSM 850/900/1800/1900)."
You have given us only the network's GSM bands. Not the 3G ones.
If it DOES support 3G, then check those bands. If it doesn't support 3G, then, well... it's pretty obvious why it doesn't work.

[Q] Could someone please explain Cellular bands that I can use in Australia?

Hi guys,
I'm looking to buy a Galaxy SIII from the States to use here in Australia, and am having a hard time understanding the intricacies of the cellular bands. I get that CDMA stuff is a no go (Verizon, Sprint) and that it seems only TMobile and AT&T are possibilities. Here is a chart with the variants and their banding listed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
The variants support all 2g frequencies, but I don't understand how the 3g part works. The t-mobile one in the 3g band is
850, AWS (Band IV), 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+
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, which doesn't include the 900 that some networks use here. Will the phone use only 2G if this is the case? Will that make any difference to me? Will the AT&T one work as well?
Can someone please give me some clarification? :victory:
Below is the info for Aus carriers...
2G
2G, other wise known as GSM, is standard on almost all phones (except CDMA phones in the USA). Most new phones come with quad band GSM support. A quad band GSM phone supports 850, 900, 1800, and 1900MHz.
2G is old technology and provides a fall back position when 3G coverage is unavailable.
Australian 2G bands:
900Mhz (Telstra, Optus & Vodafone)
1800Mhz (Telstra, Optus & Vodafone)
3G
There are several 3G networks operating in Australia. 3G frequencies are usually specified as UMTS/HSDPA or WCDMA frequencies on the mobile phone specifications.
Australian 3G bands:
850MHz (Telstra, Vodafone) – Exclusive 3G band
900MHz (Optus, Vodafone) – available in most metro areas on Optus, with both Optus and Vodafone re-farming the 2G 900 spectrum in regional and rural areas
2100MHz (Telstra, Optus, Vodafone) – Exclusive 3G band