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Hey,
I am personally just bursting with excitement over the possibility of getting WM6 on my tornado, even though (like most folks) I doubt that I have any ability to contribute technically to the effort. So, just to get my ideas out, without cluttering the "Official WM6 thread", I started this one. This is so people who really know what they are doing don't have to screw with the clutter, unless they want to.
So, my first hope for the new ROM--I doubt that there could have been much improvement to crappy Windows Media Player, so my suggestion is that that be removed, and replaced with TCPMP.
Why not customize instalation
Sorry about my english, but why not a customize instalation ?
Like WINDOWS, you can choose in advance what aplication you want, or similar thing, like, they can generate a lot of roms with english an other language in order to save space. I will only install the rom with english and spanish.
Also, I prefer that Pocket Office will be included in the rom that you are cocking.
Thanks
Ok, plan at the moment... English ONLY ROM with various language packs (including t9) that will be available as CABs for separate installation to save precious storage. The 'vanilla' ROM (no t9, no task manager, no office, no camera) only has around 19mb of storage to play with :S
Office will be available as a CAB, again to save space. WMP has been improved with support for the creating and saving of playlists on the device. TCPMP MAY be embedded depending on how many people prefer it over WMP.
As for other stuff, I'm open to ideas, it's really up to YOU how you want this ROM to work and what's in it (within reason of course )
BTW good idea to start a new thread for requests in the ROM (useful for saving clutter ) I'll link to this in my original post in 'The Official WM6 Thread'
Phil
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
Error post... disregard. Next post covers everything I wanted to say.
TCMP only is a BAD IDEA!
I love TCMP, but it can't replace WMP.
Yeah, TCMP is a better player for just about everything, but there are certain things that I still need to use WMP for.
For example, streaming media is a nightmare for me in TCMP because of certain proxy servers I use. WMP shares IE's proxy settings, so if IE can see the internet, WMP can, whereas TCMP can't.
Also, I've run across some weird files (high bitrate aac's) that froze TCMP, but WMP skips over the corrupted portion and keeps playing.
Yes, TCMP is great, but not at the cost of WMP. Please, don't take it out.
Personally, just install TCMP on a storage card, and everyone should be fine!
While we're on it...
You say that you're going to make office a .cab optional installation.
Interesting... Hey, this is a long shot, but is there any way we could try that with a WM5 device? I'm really just looking for office mobile, so if there was a way to extract that and make it work on wm5, that would be AMAZING.
I know, there's probably some propietary WM6-only stuff that would prevent it from working, but thought I would ask.
Ι think that there is no one here prefers WMP over TCPMP (or Core Player) but there is no reason include it in the rom. As you said the storage memory in Tornado is valuable and I like like your idea to give us language packs in seperate cab files. I only need English and Greek pack.
Also Office and Adobe LE have already ported from rom and work fine in storage card, so no need to be in rom.
keep on good work, can't wait!!
i believe that the applications that are to be put in the rom are the standard ones... cause like everyone has said memory is so valuable... and besides you can install tcmp to it anytime you want but you cant install wmp if you take it out... to say replace wmp with tcmp in my opinon is selfish...
oh and i would like to recommend to map the media buttons (Short_AP1-4.lnk's i think) like those on the imate sp5m,qtek8300 and t-mobile sda as default... most roms even the custom iphone dropped this... cause its a nice feature of the tornadoes... and if those arent the "would be" users preference its easy to remap it with something else but remapping it to a rom that dosent support it (like the c500 rom) is really hard... just my 2 cents...
I suppose there is a use for WMP...I do use it to play drm-protected (license only) wma files. but maybe coreplayer can get licenses? I suppose if we have to have wmp, tcpmp will stay on the storage card. no complaints.
I do hope that a2dp support exists in the new rom. That is something I can't live without.
With regards to the media player buttons...that would of course be different between 8310/sp5 and 8300/sp5m. It is easy enough to customise those in existing wm5 roms, but I wonder what version of tornado this rom is coming from?
Sorry for my poor english. Is it real to do that new rom will be unlocked passing over in silence? That will be handy to use. My opinion that there is no reason to include in rom those application that can be installable by the separete cab files. Every one can decide what to install by itself. I think there is no need to include in rom WML or pocket MSN, original file manager and task manager. Every one can decide what to use. Thanks.
good point lovetz... making them installable cabs would save alot of memory... and yes the file explorer from the rom does suck ends! maybe our chefs could do that...
and yes i hope they put in a2dp support!!! good bye wires!!!
I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
Few updates for you
A2DP - built into the ROM already
Office for WM5 - HERE
WMP will be staying and TCPMP will be packaged as a CAB
Phil
Whether the FrameWork.NET will be built-in this rom? And what version if will be.
Completely agree with this opinion: a "clean and stable" standard WM6 ROM. Everything else goes to Storage Card. Thank you for a great job !
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I personally prefer a clean ROM with stable Radio version. Just put in all the default softwares that a typical WM6 device will have to make it 'real' and pure WM6. Then from there, users can choose what they want to install. Perhaps put some options so that softwares like File Explorer, WMP can be uninstalled from the Remove Programs part
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WM6 is using AKU3 and NETCF2, even if its not, now we have the option to install NETCF2 into storage card directly, just download the latest NETCF2 SP2 and choose to install at storage card
karhoe I already have this version of FW.NET on my SD. I'm interesting in this, koz i need more free space in new rom. Is it possible to remove this application from rom?
It's possible yeah but why would you want to? If I ripped it out of the ROM then I'd have to put in .NET CF 1.1 and you wouldn't save any space at all...
Phil
This will be incredible if I am able to load WM6 on my Tornado. I would have no problem sending a Paypal donation? Thanks for taking our suggestion on how to make this better and is awfully kind. My only question is whether there will be a Qtek 8300, Imate SP5m version and a Qtek 8310, Imate SP5 version also?
There will be a .zip with the relevant shortcuts for each model in it that you just need to unzip to the /Windows folder on your device...
As for paypal, I'll add a donation link when i get round to setting up a paypal account/remembering my password
Phil
If you remove .NETCF from rom, all can install it to SD by themselfs using cab file. This will free more space in rom. I'm about that this app. can be installed from separate cab file to the SD card, not to the main memory as if it be in rom.
Hey, this question maybe was asked before, but couldn't find it any where. We can do a lot of tweeks with removing/ changing file in WM6.5 folder, but every time i try to do so it says "Acces denied". what i do wrong and what i need to do. your help and tips are welcome!
Blue skies...
Try Total Commander
For the language tweaks on this forum, and other stuff where you need to "overwrite" ROM files, use Total Commander.
It won't allow you hardcore stuff, but for many tricks advertised here it works.
Thinking of it, I wouldn't be able to come up with a good search term for this either. However, the threads with tricks do tell you to use TC.
thanks, but where do i use Total Comander? on PC or on HD2?? thanks again?
p.s. i wnated to change welcome screen to them nice girls on one of the theds and it didnt alow me!
parasexas said:
thanks, but where do i use Total Comander? on PC or on HD2?? thanks again?
p.s. i wnated to change welcome screen to them nice girls on one of the theds and it didnt alow me!
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Total Commander runs on the phone. It's basically a file explorer alternative that does a few other things, like registry editing, as well.
It allows you to overwrite read-only and system files that aren't in use.
You should have no problem replacing the startup images with it.
hey johncmolyneux, i see you are one of poor UK HD2 owners with skinned rom. i'll show up stupid again but where do i find TC on UK O2 rom. i had one on my touch pro but i just can't see one on HD2. maybe because O2 removed it? maybe you know link to download on for HD2? thanks in advance
don't worry, found it. anybody need it as weel it's freeware on
http://www.ghisler.com/smartphone.htm
Glad you sorted it. I just found it by googling.
Incidentally, I'm an O2 user, but my phone isn't an O2 one - I bought it SIM free. Also, Total Commander doesn't come on the standard ROM either, so you would have been looking for it regardless!
I didn't think O2 were doing anything to the phone. Have they skinned it then?
parasexas said:
don't worry, found it. anybody need it as weel it's freeware on
http://www.ghisler.com/smartphone.htm
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Hope you didn't try to install the smartphone version on HD2.
This is the correct version
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
yeap, first what i missed is wifi router! and believe some other small bits and bobs as i haven't seen hrc rom yet. another thing bastards locked damn phone and need sim free as i travel alot to europe and use foreign sims. by the way i rcopied files for lock screen and welcome screen to win dir, soft it but no changes happened. any ideas where did i go wrong?
parasexas said:
i rcopied files for lock screen and welcome screen to win dir, soft it but no changes happened. any ideas where did i go wrong?
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I've only played with the lockscreen myself, and I did that by copying the cpr file and the associated png files into the windows folder, and then just to be sure, I copied the cpr file into the \windows\lockscreen\ folder as well.
That worked for me.
As far as the start screen goes, I'd raise the problem in the thread that you got the screens from.
Good luck
hey, thanks, i just managed to do welcome screen, but still figthing with lock screen. could you please give link where i can find working lock screen files as ones i've got seems not working! thanks
how to view and get to windows folder located on my phone connected to my computer? (have option " view all files" enabled in my computer)
Hi guys
There are loads of TomTom discussions but nothing i have found that helps me. Can any of you help. Before i waiste £28 on a map i cant get at
I bought an HTC HD2
Transfered my SD card over from my Touch HD and tried to load TT 7.14. it opened but didnt see my maps and i got the bluetooth error. So i installed the 7.15 peoplee here talked about, but still couldnt see my maps.
So i purchased new maps from TomTome site, plugged my HD2 into TomTom home 2.7.
TomTom home does not recognise the HD2 so i can not download my new maps.
Can i download my maps manually so i can put it onto TomTom myself, or have i just waisted £28?
Hey Mate i may be able to help,
Basically i had Tomtom 6 on my other xda handsets and transferred it over to the HTC HD2. now i did the same i brought the updated maps and the only way you can put it on your device is via the tomtom home, however tomtom home, newest edition doesnt work with mobiles, you have to download the older version 1.6 which is in small writting under the main download found on the website below
http://www.tomtom.com/services/service.php?id=16&tab=87
I had to contact tomtom cause i had same problem and he told me to do this, they say that HTC HD2 is not in there list as operating tomtom, but i told him mine works fine no problems and it still does, so this will help in getting the new maps on, all i can suggest is try this first and see if it see's the new maps.
what are you trying to do with bluetooth and tomtom to get bluetooth error??
nothing with bluetooth but when i install tomtom i get the usual bluetooth error.
cheers for the advice, i will try it and that you know
thanks
how to install tomtom to HD2
mhbr12742 said:
Hi guys
There are loads of TomTom discussions but nothing i have found that helps me. Can any of you help. Before i waiste £28 on a map i cant get at
I bought an HTC HD2
Transfered my SD card over from my Touch HD and tried to load TT 7.14. it opened but didnt see my maps and i got the bluetooth error. So i installed the 7.15 peoplee here talked about, but still couldnt see my maps.
So i purchased new maps from TomTome site, plugged my HD2 into TomTom home 2.7.
TomTom home does not recognise the HD2 so i can not download my new maps.
Can i download my maps manually so i can put it onto TomTom myself, or have i just waisted £28?
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Hi
It is problem with tomtom and bloutooth. But you can by-pass this problem very easly. It dosent matter wich tomtom you install. I have installed ttn7.915.9196.qvga_black.cab and it is working perfect without any problem.
What you can do is!!
1) Install your tomtom as you used to.
2)Connect your HD2 to PC an syncronize it!
3) Open files on your HD2 and copy file name Navigator which is in file programs! copy whole file to your PC.
4) Then you have to unstall tomtom and reboot the phone
5)Then copy whole file as it is on your pc back to the phone!(navigator file)
If you click on tomtom navigator.exe then it will work as it was before. and it is no problem with bloutooth. But if you would like to have on your program list to that you can make short cut, you have to do this!
1) Now it is easy to make a file under progarms: You do such:
Start--- filemanaging---my unit(phone)---windows----start meny---programs
You make a new file. dosent matter the name.
2) copy file name tomtom navigator.exe to this file(look 1) Until here you can do it on your pc . But after that you have to do it on you HD2
3) Click on
Start--filemanaging--myunit---windows---start meny---programs---newfile(or what ever you gave name to).
4)push your finger on only file there by the name tomtom navigator.exe, then cut it.
5) click on up. It is left handside down. Then you are in the file programs.
6) pushyour finger somewhere on the screen.( Just like wright click on pc)
You chose her ;copy short cut.
7) now you can delet that file that is empety. If you dont it is ok.
It is finshed. If you click on start, you will find tomtom there now. If you did what I told you.
Good luck
thank you to both of you.
using home 1.6 i was able to get my new map and the copy routine got my bluetooth working
you guys are awesome.. thank you
mhbr12742 said:
thank you to both of you.
using home 1.6 i was able to get my new map and the copy routine got my bluetooth working
you guys are awesome.. thank you
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No problem glad we could help
mhbr12742 said:
thank you to both of you.
using home 1.6 i was able to get my new map and the copy routine got my bluetooth working
you guys are awesome.. thank you
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By the way I recomand you to download and install Gyrator and upgrad to netcf 35. Then you can use Tomtom horisontal too.
Have funn
mhbr12742 said:
thank you to both of you.
using home 1.6 i was able to get my new map and the copy routine got my bluetooth working
you guys are awesome.. thank you
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Hi
Incase you want to download Gyrator.
And for NET Compact Framework 3.5 Redistributable
Both are free.
good luck
Ok...so in a moment of stupidity I deleted the Co-Pilot folder thinking that I would never use it because I have the Tom Tom app. However, I now want to give it a whirl. Can I re-download the free demo anywhere?
You could always re-flash the official HTC ROM from their web site. If you have a locked phone to your carrier, you have to use hard hspl or something like that - search the forum for that, as I have a sim free phone so have never had to worry about it. Sadly re=flashing will lose any programs you have installed, and personalisations made. I found Microsoft myphone was great for backing up texts, and the normal PC mobile centre did most other things. I have a folder on my HD2 called CAB where I put all of the cab files for programs that i am likely to want to install again. Whaat I have learned is do NOT use mobile cnter and myphone to back up and resync your contacts, or they will all be duplicated. All of these systems are Microsoft, but they cannot understand that the information is the same.
Good luck.
Thanks man. When I get some free time I shall have a crack at it.
Or easier still, download the cab from http://www.multiupload.com/CQNXQAVFRG (thanks to Xanny Tech), stick it on your SD card via USB, then use file explorer on your HD2 to find the cab and install CoPilot.
Redeyedrichard said:
Ok...so in a moment of stupidity I deleted the Co-Pilot folder thinking that I would never use it because I have the Tom Tom app. However, I now want to give it a whirl. Can I re-download the free demo anywhere?
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Just grab this one: http://htcpedia.com/dutty_gps_copilot_33a9992979734b276/soft/leo-apps.html
copilot working on cooked roms?
is there anyway to make copilot to work with navipanel in cooked roms.
i can manage to force navipanel to work w/o carkit but it just dont launch the programs like footprint nore navigation.
maybe that the wrong place to post that but maybe there is some ideas?
tnx in advance
Hi everyone!
Anyone tried iGo for Android? I'd like to use it on my Kaiser, but there is a problem in screen size (resolution). I'm not able to cofigure it...
its workign great with hero
I had it on my Hero, but felt it was quite sluggish and slow.
I was using copilot live 8 and thought I'd evaluate iGo, but compared to copilot it didn't like it.
I will be sticking with copilot until TomTom decides to lauch their verson for the android.
I preferred iGo over TomTom on my touch diamond when I used that. It was much better than CoPilot and Navigon but the IGo My Way for android that I downloaded to use on my HTC Desire had a very low resolution so it was constantly just displayed on a third of my screen
When I tried iGo on my HTC Kaiser with Android, it was slow. Actions had delays, and even the 3D was slow.
iGo is great on Windows Mobile, but not for Android.
i have it too...i think it works kinda great....but does someone have a date when tomtom is going to come to android???
have it on my xperia and love it too
I need this app because it have the best maps of my country, but i have Acer Liquid with WVGA and i have the screen issue.
Has anyone found any solution???
You're talking about an official iGo version for Android or the motonav one ?
I use motonav with my desire and navigation is OK
I used the windows mobile version with my Omnia and "basic" navigation is exactly the same.
Now i'm waiting for an official version for android with more features than just "basic" navigation (Real time traffic, POI etc ...)
I tested it a while ago and it was rather slow, strange because it was running fine on my windows mobile HTC Touch2 which is a lot less performant than my current Samsung Galaxy S i9000.
I've then moved to Sygic mobile maps and I love it. It works very fast, has all the features I need and looks nice too
kongar thanks for your hard work. I did notice that while in night mode the sign post and land information signs are cut off at the bottom. I did not notice this for the day mode.
maps?
Anyone have maps for "iGo my way" i need map for sweden but having a hard time finding any..
You are right about the bug. I have the same issue.
I get a popup "Please insert your SD card containing iGO content files."
I have the iGO My Way folder on my sd card with content, license, and
scheme subfolders with all files and the map of my state.
Any advice??
gullzway said:
I get a popup "Please insert your SD card containing iGO content files."
I have the iGO My Way folder on my sd card with content, license, and
scheme subfolders with all files and the map of my state.
Any advice??
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The folder must be on the rott of sd card and must be named "iGo"
On my desire it works
spitjo said:
The folder must be on the rott of sd card and must be named "iGo"
On my desire it works
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Thank You, that was the problem!!!!! Renamed folder now it's working!
My igo8 map for Oklahoma from Windows Mobile works, but the poi does not. Any links to working poi's?
i have the ARIA with smaller screen resolution. Anyone have the appropriate APK for that?
Just to be clear, I had IGO8 on windows mobile. if I run the right version for my Aria, will it execute (so long as I rename the folder IGO instead of IGO8)?
When i try to open igo,i have this message:"missing or incomplete folder:igo/license".what i did wrong???thx!!!
jorge1978 said:
When i tried to open igo,i have this message:"missing or incomplete folder:igo/license".what i did wrong???thx!!!
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Maybe you are missing some files in the license folder.
Try the folder i just uploaded
I download the 1.8a version from here.i dont understand why missing license.thx!