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Slower After Rooting and Flashing?

It seems as though the OS is now slower after rooting and flashing my G1. The whole OS and Apps like Messaging seem to be moving slower than when I had the stock image. Is it just me?

AsaSpades said:
It seems as though the OS is now slower after rooting and flashing my G1. The whole OS and Apps like Messaging seem to be moving slower than when I had the stock image. Is it just me?
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I'm gonna go it's just you. I've had my rooted over a month and I've never noticed a slowdown at all.

Make sure you regularly delete your text messages. If you have a few threads over 200 messages that can slow you down like crazy.

speoples20 said:
Make sure you regularly delete your text messages. If you have a few threads over 200 messages that can slow you down like crazy.
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Probably what it is

Ok sry for the double post but it sees as tho i have way too many texts [email protected] when I try to delete messages the app freezes up and always asks to "wait" or "force close" and neither works

AsaSpades said:
Ok sry for the double post but it sees as tho i have way too many texts [email protected] when I try to delete messages the app freezes up and always asks to "wait" or "force close" and neither works
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just do the wait, it might take some time.

boosted13b said:
just do the wait, it might take some time.
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Thanks, worked after like 14mins

AsaSpades said:
Thanks, worked after like 14mins
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Musta been alot of msgs!

ahah yea like 250 with like 10 people

RC33 Update!
After updating the JFv1.5 RC33 update I noticed it help my system run quicker and with out small glitches! Great Work!

I had text message threads of over 900 messages and talk about slow!
i wiped the device, rooted and flashed to ADP (latest version) and its outstanding. It's as fast as ever now!

Is there a way, or someone that wants to do this mod?!!!!! Notification Sound in Call

One thing I have wanted on this phone since I got it is to be able to know when a text message or other notification comes through while in a call. Like a short beep or something similar to the sound the G1 makes when the battery is low. I am not a huge coder, but love toying around with my rooted G1. Any takers? Anyone want to do this? Anyone else been wanting this??? Thanks for all who view this thread.

I think Handcent sms has this feature but we are still missing gmail and other notifications

Maybe someone can get this done, this is one of the few things that has bothered me about my g1 since I got it.

I know this isn't the place to ask, but a way to have the keyboard along with the face buttons stay lit until the keys lock would be the best thing. It's annoying to move the trackball every time to just get those buttons to light up every time.
Unless there is a way and I've just missed it every time.

next2nothing000 said:
One thing I have wanted on this phone since I got it is to be able to know when a text message or other notification comes through while in a call. Like a short beep or something similar to the sound the G1 makes when the battery is low. I am not a huge coder, but love toying around with my rooted G1. Any takers? Anyone want to do this? Anyone else been wanting this??? Thanks for all who view this thread.
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to answer the OP question:
I'm almost 100% certain my phone does this anyway +_+
In fact i'll test it tomorrow but i'm sure it does happen coz it scares the crap out of me when it does!

next2nothing000 said:
One thing I have wanted on this phone since I got it is to be able to know when a text message or other notification comes through while in a call. Like a short beep or something similar to the sound the G1 makes when the battery is low. I am not a huge coder, but love toying around with my rooted G1. Any takers? Anyone want to do this? Anyone else been wanting this??? Thanks for all who view this thread.
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i second the hancent sms. only one i know that does it and you can get rid of those annoying ass bubbles.
and, jesus people, stop with the unnecessary flame war. :/ really wtf are you guys gaining from any of it?
meltus if it does, what rom are you using? i could have sworn it was an options on cyanogens, but i can't find it anywhere it would be so i'm going to have to say its hancent sms. are you using that as your msging app?

nabzilla1990 said:
I think Handcent sms has this feature but we are still missing gmail and other notifications
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Obviously you people aren't READING THE WHOLE THREAD.
We are aware that Handcent covers SMS/MMS notifications in voice calls, but what about gtalk, gmail, facebook, MSN, ect.
As far as I can gather, Handcent DOESN'T do this.
The OP is asking for someone to see if it's possible to modify the Phone.apk to include this. All of you "Members" and "Senior Members" need to get off your high horses, if you're true senior members (likely not the case as most of your post counts probably come from slamming people who "DO EVERYTHING WRONG!!!") remember the days when the Android section of this forum was still relatively young, everybody helped everybody, regardless of how unusual or stupid their questions seemed. These days if you're not 100% perfect in your initial post, you get slammed. Leading to more completely useless posts from all of you "Senior Members" that are taking up EVEN MORE space with useless drivel that's EVEN MORE useless than the OP.
I personally think this is a great idea, and whole heartedly support it, if I had the slightest idea how this is done, I would be on it right away.
Also, before anybody slams me for being wrong, I have never used Handcent for my SMS handler because I prefer the modified one that comes with my CM build, but if it DOES allow notifications for ALL APPS through calls, it could have saved a great deal of time to mention that.

This gets my support as well. I dont like Handcent. So if we can make it work with the standard APK, it will be awesome. I have asked around, for it to work, its not the Phone.apk that needs to be modified, its the .apk that giving out the notification that has to be modified. example is
for sms/mms, the mms.apk needs to be modified to check the phone status, and give out the correct sound notification. (not in call, use selected sound clip from external speakers; in call, use small beep sound in the ear speaker.)
same goes for gtalk,gmail,twidroid and any other apps that have notification.

str4vag said:
This gets my support as well. I dont like Handcent. So if we can make it work with the standard APK, it will be awesome. I have asked around, for it to work, its not the Phone.apk that needs to be modified, its the .apk that giving out the notification that has to be modified. example is
for sms/mms, the mms.apk needs to be modified to check the phone status, and give out the correct sound notification. (not in call, use selected sound clip from external speakers; in call, use small beep sound in the ear speaker.)
same goes for gtalk,gmail,twidroid and any other apps that have notification.
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Good to see some serious input here finally, depressing to know it would have to be handled by the corresponding application, being as some of them are off limits (gtalk/gmail/ect).
At least someone still has their head on straight here.

stefan.buddle said:
A grand total of 6 question marks...... so i guess if it reaches 7 question marks its officially a question right? next2nothing000 your a retard it's because of people like you we have such things as metal disorders and such. When people like you are allowed to breed we end up with retards...
P.S. you suck next2nothing000, if you where too slow to understand what i was getting at
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I'm sorry. I usually post something constructive, but this kind of crap makes me mad.
Why does it bother you that he had more than one question? How can you even complain about that? Uh oh, I just used 2, I probably have a "metal disorder" too, huh? You know what people accomplish by asking questions? They learn things. Yes sir, it is people like YOU, who don't ask questions or even make the slightest attempt to educate themselves, who shouldn't be "allowed to breed." When people like you breed, we get thick skulled smart-asses who think they're tough on the internet.
P.S. You used 7 extra periods that weren't needed. Your first sentence was a fragment. You used one capital letter. You used the wrong form of it's the first time. You used the wrong form of you're. You forgot a period after retard. It's supposed to be "mental" disorders. You used an ellipses incorrectly. You used "where" instead of "were."
P.P.S. His sentence wasn't even a fragment (I'm assuming you mean't "typed" instead of "type"). "I'm an idiot," says Mr. Grammer and Punctuation. There you go. Stop trying to be a hero for the board, that is the mods job. You saying "OMG RONG [email protected][email protected]!!" isn't helping a thing, considering 90% of people who post in the wrong thread just post one time. Especially when there are people before you that have pointed this out. I know it gives you an ego boost, but seriously, keep it in your pants. You are the one filling xda with garbage, not the people who have a question about a feature they would like to see implemented on their phone.
Thanks for bearing with me, everyone else.
Stefan, find something better to do than insult people in a forum. Next time you see something in the wrong place and someone has acknowledged it, I dare you to just skip over it.
I was going to delete this as well but it makes my point so much easier to make and its not a flame post or very hostile.
PiLoT

BrutalHoe said:
Download handcent of the market and for FFS post in the right forum this is for dev not Q&A. there is nothing to develope its already been done with an app.
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Actually if the person is asking a question it belongs in a QUESTION AND ANSWER forum
stefan.buddle said:
A grand total of 6 question marks...... so i guess if it reaches 7 question marks its officially a question right? next2nothing000 your a retard it's because of people like you we have such things as metal disorders and such. When people like you are allowed to breed we end up with retards...
P.S. you suck next2nothing000, if you where too slow to understand what i was getting at
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And you would be wise to wind your neck in
not only is he fully entitled to ask a question he asked it in the proper forum
what's so bad about that
did you just feel lashing out was the good thing to do?
and yes these posts were deleted i just thought i'de qoute them so the writers can be shown how horribly wrong they are
stop the *****ing in this thread or ill start dishing out bans
your all acting like children

holysmokesbatty said:
Obviously you people aren't READING THE WHOLE THREAD.
We are aware that Handcent covers SMS/MMS notifications in voice calls, but what about gtalk, gmail, facebook, MSN, ect.
As far as I can gather, Handcent DOESN'T do this.
The OP is asking for someone to see if it's possible to modify the Phone.apk to include this. All of you "Members" and "Senior Members" need to get off your high horses, if you're true senior members (likely not the case as most of your post counts probably come from slamming people who "DO EVERYTHING WRONG!!!") remember the days when the Android section of this forum was still relatively young, everybody helped everybody, regardless of how unusual or stupid their questions seemed. These days if you're not 100% perfect in your initial post, you get slammed. Leading to more completely useless posts from all of you "Senior Members" that are taking up EVEN MORE space with useless drivel that's EVEN MORE useless than the OP.
I personally think this is a great idea, and whole heartedly support it, if I had the slightest idea how this is done, I would be on it right away.
Also, before anybody slams me for being wrong, I have never used Handcent for my SMS handler because I prefer the modified one that comes with my CM build, but if it DOES allow notifications for ALL APPS through calls, it could have saved a great deal of time to mention that.
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Obviously, you're not reading the whole thread, bro. We are putting suggestions out. So what if we miss two words? You're complaining about something that's not happening. We're still TRYING to help.
But, back on topic. Now that I know this, I support. Would be quite useful, as I have it set so apps get killed on screen off and it seems everytime I press "End" on a call, it goes blank and only thing that keeps me knowing I even have a sms is "Sms unread count" widget.

r3s-rt said:
Obviously, you're not reading the whole thread, bro. We are putting suggestions out. So what if we miss two words? You're complaining about something that's not happening. We're still TRYING to help.
But, back on topic. Now that I know this, I support. Would be quite useful, as I have it set so apps get killed on screen off and it seems everytime I press "End" on a call, it goes blank and only thing that keeps me knowing I even have a sms is "Sms unread count" widget.
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I would have things that give notifications to not be killed- that might help

ok this is just plain retarded why do u need to know if u received email or a txt while u r on the phone? who's gonna check email or txt while talking on the phone?? unless ur a freaking multitasker n can talk txt n email it the same i c no point of this.

BrutalHoe said:
ok this is just plain retarded why do u need to know if u received email or a txt while u r on the phone? who's gonna check email or txt while talking on the phone?? unless ur a freaking multitasker n can talk txt n email it the same i c no point of this.
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I do sometimes, especially when coordinating stuff with a few people. It will be something like talking to someone, then getting a text to update me on information to relay to the person I am talking to. Stuff like that.
Other times its just an compulsive need to reply text as soon as it comes in.
Also, another reason why you need to know if a text comes in while in a call : having 2 girlfriend. (not that I have 2 anyway)

str4vag said:
I do sometimes, especially when coordinating stuff with a few people. It will be something like talking to someone, then getting a text to update me on information to relay to the person I am talking to. Stuff like that.
Other times its just an compulsive need to reply text as soon as it comes in.
Also, another reason why you need to know if a text comes in while in a call : having 2 girlfriend. (not that I have 2 anyway)
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you can with handcent i believe...it does it with vibrate or sound in call...

I have the TTSnotifier app and it will announce the callers name, if they are in my contacts, from call waiting. I also have it set to notify me of incoming texts as well. Doesn't work with email though. You will need the text to speech app from the market for it to work. You can customize the announcements. Hope maybe this will help. Can't remember where I got it from but I can e-mail it to you. [email protected]

Gee1 said:
I have the TTSnotifier app and it will announce the callers name, if they are in my contacts, from call waiting. I also have it set to notify me of incoming texts as well. Doesn't work with email though. You will need the text to speech app from the market for it to work. You can customize the announcements. Hope maybe this will help. Can't remember where I got it from but I can e-mail it to you. [email protected]
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Just emailed you.... I don't care if I don't get my texts or email but the absence of "call waiting" notification has been driving me nuts... to the point of really thinking of getting rid of G1. I mean, this is so basic, we shouldn't have to find workarounds just to enable this. If that app does that... it would be like a gift from heaven.

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nvm misread

BrutalHoe said:
i c no point of this.
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opinion? someone else may see the use in this.

safely rm stock gmail app(possible google sign in error fix? dcv1)

I personally see no point in it, as the mail app covers all the basis, and the gmail app doesnt come with a widget...but I have a google branded phone, and could completely understand why I couldnt delete it (like how the IM app and the market are somehow closely related, and the deletion of one screws the other over) as it may cause issues.
On another note, is there a list somewhere that has all the apps safe to remove?
Damage V1
Rming with Root Explorer
EDIT
After following the advice of a responder to my original question, I moved the gmail.apk and gmailprovider.apk to my sd card, then removed them completely from system/app. I have rebooted, found no errors (downloaded an app from the market as a test, and also emailed myself) and most importantly, for the first time, have not had to resign into my google account upon reboot. Dont know if it was luck or wat, but Ive had to resign in everytimw (not a big de, but other then the intermitent lights, its the only bug Ive found with dcv1)
Im sure most of you are satisfied with the gmail app, but I personally prefer the mail app, as you can link more than one account and it has the widget. Ive noticed no delay in recieving or sending or any error outside of the mail/gmail app. Thought you all might be interested in knowing my findings

Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....

mountaindont said:
I personally see no point in it, as the mail app covers all the basis, and the gmail app doesnt come with a widget...but I have a google branded phone, and could completely understand why I couldnt delete it (like how the IM app and the market are somehow closely related, and the deletion of one screws the other over) as it may cause issues.
On another note, is there a list somewhere that has all the apps safe to remove?
Damage V1
Rming with Root Explorer
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Search is your friend........

You can ADB into the phone and manually remove it, I believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581635&highlight=remove+gmail

obannvi said:
Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....
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LOL Chars!!

obannvi said:
Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....
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All 17 pages of 'Apps Safe To Remove' talked nothing of gmail, other than how rming other apps effected Gmail; the search function brought up no answers, unless I missed something (which is very possible )
Id appreciate your help.

Try moving it and not completely removing it? Then if the phone crashes/wont work, you can move it back to it's proper location through recovery..?
I've never wanted to remove the stock gmail app, since the standard app doesn't requires checking of email, whereas the gmail app is a push email (I think?) I get notifications of gmail faster on my phone than I do on my PC.

Sirchuk said:
You can ADB into the phone and manually remove it, I believe
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Thanks for the speedy response.
I searched that thread, and every other one that came one while searching "remove gmail" but found nothing of use. I am fully aware of how to remove it, Im simply curious as to whether or not its SAFE to remove.
Thanks again

Sirchuk said:
Try moving it and not completely removing it? Then if the phone crashes/wont work, you can move it back to it's proper location through recovery..?
I've never wanted to remove the stock gmail app, since the standard app doesn't requires checking of email, whereas the gmail app is a push email (I think?) I get notifications of gmail faster on my phone than I do on my PC.
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Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?

mountaindont said:
Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?
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The email is delivered to your phone real time, as opposed to polling on a chedule (i.e. every 30 minutes).

mountaindont said:
Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?
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The gmail servers notify your phone when you have a new email, instead of the phone polling the servers for new email (that is pull)
Saves battery life as your phone can sit idle and wait for google servers to tell it to get mail.

Bielinsk said:
The gmail servers notify your phone when you have a new email, instead of the phone polling the servers for new email (that is pull)
Saves battery life as your phone can sit idle and wait for google servers to tell it to get mail.
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My battery life has been amazing since flashing DCV1. Ill definatly have to keep an eyye on that. Thanks for the response!

mountaindont said:
My battery life has been amazing since flashing DCV1. Ill definatly have to keep an eyye on that. Thanks for the response!
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Have you guys tried using Exchange ActiveSync in the mail app for Gmail, this will make it push rather then pull. I believe you need to use m.google.com as the server, and change the frequency to "as items arrive".

Is the sign in thing really annoying? it only happens when you go to airplane mode or reboot. I dont think its a big deal it dont effects me at least

YoungAceAtlanta said:
Is the sign in thing really annoying? it only happens when you go to airplane mode or reboot. I dont think its a big deal it dont effects me at least
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In my edit I stated it wasnt a big deal. Just a work around, to one of the few bugs left in dcV1.

ljmeli said:
Have you guys tried using Exchange ActiveSync in the mail app for Gmail, this will make it push rather then pull. I believe you need to use m.google.com as the server, and change the frequency to "as items arrive".
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Perfection! I thank you most kindly.
Now all we need is to get the trackball working, and dcv1 will be TRUELY 100%.
Yes, the trackball and leds are a big deal...to me

still getting the sign in error
mountaindont said:
In my edit I stated it wasnt a big deal. Just a work around, to one of the few bugs left in dcV1.
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Just a heads up, I still get the sign in error after I removed both apk's. I got it after rebooting and putting the phone into airplane mode.
Good attempt at trying to resolve the issue though!

mountaindont said:
Perfection! I thank you most kindly.
Now all we need is to get the trackball working, and dcv1 will be TRUELY 100%.
Yes, the trackball and leds are a big deal...to me
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Then you might just be screwed. Current speculation is that the trackball thing is intentional. If you check...whenever you get e-mail or a text message the trackball lights up. This behavior is quite possibly intended and a possible change for the 'official' 2.1 ROMs.

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Just a heads up, I still get the sign in error after I removed both apk's. I got it after rebooting and putting the phone into airplane mode.
Good attempt at trying to resolve the issue though!
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I can confirm that this is not a fix. I've had gmail deleted for weeks now (using k9 for pushing work and personal email) and I've still been getting the sign-in notification.

I was also thinking you need that for the market.

Unacceptable losses of SMS

Wondering whether I am the only one with this issue
I SMS a lot and like keeping the SMS on my device. I had recently an extremely unpleasant surprise: my total list of conversations was back to... ONE conversation with my last SMS and... That's it!!! Thousands of SMS gone
I happen to save everything with mIQ and hopefully it's not lost. However I had the experience already twice in the past 2 weeks so I am wondering:
Is this a feature from Android? Big SMS file --> autoarchive? If then how do I disable it or how do I recover my SMS?
Is it a bug? In which case this is extremely severe and not serious for such an expensive device or for an OS that is expected to be a safe one
Is it from Samsung implementation? Or Android itself?
Please share your experience, I'd like to know if I am the only one and if there is any solution (My "old" Touch Pro 2 with WM 6.5 never lost a single SMS although having more than 30,000 SMS in the box)
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Am I the only one? Several years without any loss os SMS on different WM devices and I wiuld be the only one losing them on my shiny new device with the wonderful android OS?
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Ive never let my SMS get to more than 500, mainly because I don't like scrolling through congressional. Never had this issue though.
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you really shouldnt keep that many sms around anyhow with android, its likely to cause some issues but did you check the settings on the sms app? mine has settings to delete threads after a certain number and is set to 200 by default.

I use a program called Backup to Gmail. Works excellent.
It let's me delete sms'es on the phone while my Gmail account keeps them all even if I delete them on the phone.
It can also restore sms'es.MMS restore is not supported yet but backup works good.

scottprotege said:
you really shouldnt keep that many sms around anyhow with android, its likely to cause some issues but did you check the settings on the sms app? mine has settings to delete threads after a certain number and is set to 200 by default.
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Yes of course... Besides If I had it set at 200 I would expect to keep at leats 200, not 1
I shouldn't let many with Android ? So with WM6.5 it's ok to have 20,000 SMS but Android cannot handle them ? Hum... Somethng is seriously wrong

zeb crs said:
I use a program called Backup to Gmail. Works excellent.
It let's me delete sms'es on the phone while my Gmail account keeps them all even if I delete them on the phone.
It can also restore sms'es.MMS restore is not supported yet but backup works good.
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Thanks, I know a few of these. Without being able to restore --> kind of useless for me... Actually as far as I remember some CAN restore
I am already using mIQ that works ok (though a bit slow to handle too many SMS)

why would you even want that many, its not like you are going to read through 20k sms

It's funny like the answers are more about having less SMS or why wanting that many rather than why the SMS client or the OS Re broken...
Hey man why do u need a car, just take your bicycle!
I have more than a thousand conta ts I converse regularly with. Then add a certain number of sms per conversation and u get there
Anyway I do not even have that many on my Tab... Far less than on my previous device. And this disappointing device/os/client combination cannot even manage them... What do you expe t me to do or say? Go back to my TP2? Honestly this is ridiculous
meanwhile I'd like to know if I am the only one and if someone knows some fises (other than delet my SMS or but an iPad...)
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Alcibiade said:
It's funny like the answers are more about having less SMS or why wanting that many rather than why the SMS client or the OS Re broken...
Hey man why do u need a car, just take your bicycle!
I have more than a thousand conta ts I converse regularly with. Then add a certain number of sms per conversation and u get there
Anyway I do not even have that many on my Tab... Far less than on my previous device. And this disappointing device/os/client combination cannot even manage them... What do you expe t me to do or say? Go back to my TP2? Honestly this is ridiculous
meanwhile I'd like to know if I am the only one and if someone knows some fises (other than delet my SMS or but an iPad...)
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give handcent a try and use their backup service, ive never had a problem with the stock sms app, currently theres around 300txts for 20 contacts, and 50 or so for the rest.

No problem here as I don't keep a lots of sms. But had a problem with new sms going into the wrong contact profile. So, have to be extra careful not to reply to the wrong person.
Anyone faces the same problem?
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Alcibiade said:
(other than delet my SMS or but an iPad...)
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Deleting would help more than the purchase of an iPad, as that uses the 3g chip to get a data connection, while both the texting and voice service are ignored.
That said... I never got this issue, but my brother has a relatively similar one: long messages tend to be split, mixed and (why not, since we are at it) partly deleted. That is on Eclair using an Xperia X10 mini pro.
Never had this kind of issue when i was at my peak of sms usage: store on the MMC, and there you go, thousands of sms on a puny Nokia 3650.
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Read deleted SMS

Hi all
My son 13-year-old must submit his phone to me every night. Is there any software that I can read his SMS event if the SMS were deleted?
I will appreciate all your ideas and advices.

Here's an idea, give your son some privacy.
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Even tho I agree you should give him privacy and build trust with him, I'll help you out.
You could get a app (not sure of name) that makes a nandroid of every thing (including SMS) and have it set on a timer to do so. So at a random point in the day it will backup everything in it and restore it quickly to see what's up, then unrestore. (Maybe titanium backup?)

If his phone is rooted you can easily do it with the app called undelete.
Im a parent I get it. But I think you're going to far and invading their privacy which will cause he or she to rebel big time once they find out...and make no mistake your kid will find out.
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sun_414689 said:
I'm learning to protect my child. Is it wrong?
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Protecting you child by giving him no privacy...
Besides if he wants to hind something from you he will, your options have been given, but then again he could prevent any of them if he wanted or just delete messages as soon as he has got them so at the most you get a couple

Hey guys, don't assume anything about the OP's reasons for asking the question.
Maybe his son has had bad habits or "friends" that no "real parents" would like their sons to ever meet.
He asked a technical question (giving the reason why and he could have just asked the question "as is", which would be my advice for any of such question in the future) and if you don't want to answer it because you think it's "bad", well, don't answer it, but please, keep your remarks for yourself.
If you want to discuss about parenthood and the like, there are forums dedicated to such subject. xda is a technical site, so let's keep it technical)
The nandroid backup is a good idea .
Another one
If your career allows you to get your messages, sms, mms, and even voice mail by email (in some unified messaging system or even with IMAP), you could use that. Usually, the messages are NOT deleted from the messaging server when they are deleted from the phone.
My own career provides such a service.

I think we are done here.
Thanks.