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Hi,
I'd like to buy an Atom, but I cannot find any real feedback on how usable the device is with one hand, lacking hardware button to map on the WM5 softkeys.
Can someone report if it is possible (and easy) to press the on-screen softkeys with one's thumb?
I'd like also answers from Wizard/Prophet owners, that can compare the usability of hardware vs on-screen buttons (but please do not participate in the poll).
arg0: you can press the softkeys on the screen, and if you have dedicated hardware keys you can of course press those. If you can't manually assign the softkeys to other non-dedicated hardware keys, tell me about it and I'll knock some thing up to sort it.
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vijay555 said:
arg0: you can press the softkeys on the screen, and if you have dedicated hardware keys you can of course press those. If you can't manually assign the softkeys to other non-dedicated hardware keys, tell me about it and I'll knock some thing up to sort it.
V
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hi!
What I'd like to know is: can you easily press the softkeys on the screen, using only one hand? (atom has no hardware buttons for the softkeys, and before buying it I want to be sure that one-handed operation is possible).
Thanks.
you can do it, but it's not easy because at least on the equivalent device (magician), the edge of the device tends to get in the way of the softkeys, which are like 7mm high. But it's perfectly feasible, and in the absense of dedicated keys, why not!?
None of these phones are particularly well setup for one handed use, but with some work, can be made that way!
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vijay555,
thanks for the answer!
This is the first real user feedback I get about this.
I hope now that some Atom user will report, too.
I have been using the ATOM for the past 1 month and I have always used my thumb to activate the Softkey on the screen
it is much more comfortable that way
The ATOM is too small to use the bottom key (o2 media plus key ) as soft key (only key that can be reassigned in the front panel )
Also U cannot re map the Windows key as of now
I have been using the ATOM for the past 1 month and I have always used my thumb to activate the Softkey on the screen
it is much more comfortable that way
The ATOM is too small to use the bottom key (o2 media plus key ) as soft key (only key that can be reassigned in the front panel )
Also U cannot re map the Windows key as of now
Guys, can you not assign the Softkeys to hardware keys?
I could write an app to do that...
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stargator said:
I have been using the ATOM for the past 1 month and I have always used my thumb to activate the Softkey on the screen
it is much more comfortable that way
The ATOM is too small to use the bottom key (o2 media plus key ) as soft key (only key that can be reassigned in the front panel )
Also U cannot re map the Windows key as of now
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Thanks, good to know that that can be done.
What are the hardware buttons that can be remapped?
I read in a review that four hardware buttons can be remaped:
that should be "o2 media plus", "camera", "voice note".
What is the fourth? Power?
Is there any way to re-program one of the generic four buttons (two on top, two on bottom) of the Qtek 9100 (KJAM/MDA) to use for the OK function, so that we don't have to open the keyboard or use the screen to close the programs?
Thks,
--L
You could possibly use my app VJOkButt to do this. That's what it's designed for.
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Have a look at this app too : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41060
smartskey is a much better app... I don't know if it's remappable to the other hardware keys though. I think it's for the soft key buttons right?
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OK, what am i missing?
Start>Settings>Buttons>Select Button, Choose "OK/Close"
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Indeed, the Internet Explorer button (top-right) is ideal for reassigning as Ok/Close since it is closest to the close button on the screen and since any use of Internet Explorer needs the stylus anyway.
Funny, I agree on the button selection, I used the IE button for OK, and the Mail button for "Today".
However i couldn't disagree more about needing a stylus for using IE. With smartskey setup to open my start menu, I have IE there for one handed launching. With the WM5 soft buttons you can do everything in IE with one hand. I even default to full screen mode to get the most out of it. But you can launch favorites, stop, refresh, go back, etc. all with one hand.
Now if you mean typing in new URL's well sure that requires some other input, but for casual browsing of favorites, one hand, no stylus seems fine to me.
YMMV of course.
With the new touch scrolling, the cube and hardware buttons i am able to use my wizard with just one hand very quickly! I am very happy about this
The only problem is when i have to press x/ok button
Is there a way to map this to a HW button?
Thanks!
PS: i just flashed back to my original rom (i-mate wm5) boy it`s ugly slow and without a lot of stuff...
So you guys are doing a REALLY GOOD JOB here!!!
Back on WM6 now...
i second that, i assigned my voice dial button to ok/close but it just "minimizes" the program... not actual close... i used the closeall program but sometimes i want to just switch to another program in the background...
maybe what i will do is use closeall in the voice dial hold option.. and ok/close in single press... ...
Guys, this is the main use (for me at least) of Smartskey... The right soft key is mapped so that if you press and hold it it closes the current app. The left soft key is mapped so if you press and hold it, it will open the Start Menu...
sorry for this, i am so stupid... the ok/close button is in the list
ups! i just assume there are only apps in the list.
Sorry again!
PS: Senior Member ?!?!? - i guess i just ask a lot of stupid questions - lol
Has anyone come up with working solution for mapping hw keys?
I found this thread on Diamond, but no help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398280
I am using AEKMap to enable both latin/cyrillic input on my TP's hw keyboard. You may google it and give it a try.
There is no need for additional software, just follow this post and you'll get the answer. Worked for me.
Try AE Button Plus.
B.
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
Taajuus said:
I think you did not quite follow me here.
I dont mean to change layout of QWERTY, but hw-keys like "Back" and "Home" at front panel of TP.
This is becaus I find home and back quite useless and would much more prefer to have ALT+TAB (change program) and close program (REALLY close them, not leave running background as back seems to randomly do).
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And that is EXACTLY what i also want to know....
The total lack of hardware-keys on this device is already disturbing enough, but being locked out of the option to remap any of them is truely horrid...
Anyone know of any reg-hacks maybe?
I've got Spb PocketPlus 4 installed btw, and it's got a button mapping function as well...
But when i go into the buttons map, some weird black icons appear with no name attached to it. Can anyone make anything of this? As you can see i've been able to map one thing only: the Spb close-button-contex-menu, which allows me to switch task KW-buttons only....
But this is not enough for me, i need ALT-TAB aswell and off course a VoiceCommand button.
And regrettably the Rapael doesn't have that many HW keys to start with...
I want also to use Home/Back buttons for different purposes,but I didn;t found a solution yet.
Gotten a step closer to what i really need over this weekend:
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
So far, this setup is to my satisfaction, and after two months of use this phone finaly behaves completely the way i want it to...
Hi, guys.
See my post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2743845#post2743845
Hope this helps!
Cheers.
helped realy much !!! big thx for that nice instructions
You're very welcome, tk_berlin.
You be sure to let me know if anything in there doesn't make sense or you need any help with it.
Cheers from Canada!
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
Since the other htc user ,) wrote
In the button dialogue (with extra generated buttons by Spb PP+4) there was only one other button that had a name...
So i tried this one and go figure: it seems to be the " <= " (or 'back') button. In the dialogue it's called the OK button. I've got it set to the close contaxt menu now, and mapped Voicecommand to long-pressed answer key...
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
ah cool to see a reply that fast ,)
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Lol. I was on my machine all morning and had XDA open in one of my tabs.
Yes, you can map practically any button in AEBPlus no problem.
hmm u got any further with finding out how to set the home button and the backwards button ?
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AEBP will also *learn* any keys it doesn't have. So you could use the "Add Button" option, press your Home key, and away you go.
The way I have it set up, holding down the phone key will activate voice command (default behavior).
But remember, assigning commands to the Home or OK buttons (that "Back" button is actually an "OK" button) doesn't unmap what they normally do so you will always go home first and then it will perform <x>-function that you assign.
Personally, I don't like to program the Home or OK buttons because I find that they are "trickier" to press. What I mean is, if you tap the OK button near it's center or close to the left, it doesn't register a press. If you tap it sort of with the long part of your thumb (which is more natural when holding the device in one hand), it registers it. I've tried this with two TP's now and the button behaved the same way on both. Due to this, I find it unreliable to map anything to it.
In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the Volume buttons, Phone and End keys will be unmapped once you attach AEBP to them but the others will not.
Oh -- I forgot to mention, you can map the directional pad as well if that is your thing.
so it works with SPB PocketPlus ?
there must be a way to get it work wit the other tool
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It does work, but it sends an OK command first.
I wrote a little utility for hard-coded buttons such as these for another Pocket PC I had (an ASUS P527) called "DoNothing.exe" but we can't apply that work-around here. What I would do is replace the EXEs of apps the hardware keys called with my DoNothing.exe, but in the case of the TP, we definitely don't want to replace START.EXE (which I believe to be the likely EXE (haven't tested this)).
If I find a way to map those buttons reliably, I will let you know, tk_Berlin. So far tho, I've been quite pleased with just using the four buttons I mentioned. The more I use this device and the more I ponder my decision to stay with TFL3D instead of the normal WM interface, the more I realize that I don't need half the add-ons I used to use prior to having TF3D. I am accustomed to very, very, very *heavily* customizing my device, but the setup I have now works great and I really haven't lost nething from my old WM world. In fact, prolly gained a few CPU cycles and memory to boot.
I don't miss the Today Screen at all!!! Now that I think about it, I never really looked at it.
Cya!
Ok, I searched around for about an hour, and must not be using the right search term or something. Anyway,
I have an HTC HD2, and i'm trying to run gotomypc with it (and pandora). I can run both, but i have to map the hardware button to my input panel in order for it to come up in either application. Thats all well and fine, except i also like the default long press key option that brings up my voice command. (And for those that don't have an HD2, there is only 1 mappable hardware key). So i have to jump back and forth on button assignments to use applications.
So point is, i installed AE Button Plus, and it appears to be able to do the trick, yet i can't find what file to point the assigned long press button too. Where is "input panel"/aka SIP located at/what directory?
Or does someone have an easier suggestion for mapping a previously unassignable hardware key to the SIP?
Thanks in advance!