Device sleeps too deep? - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I often receive SMS messages and other notifiers as soon as I wake up my phone from power button, not when they arrive. Maybe this is because of battery related tweaking I have done... does anybody else have this issue?

darfri said:
I often receive SMS messages and other notifiers as soon as I wake up my phone from power button, not when they arrive. Maybe this is because of battery related tweaking I have done... does anybody else have this issue?
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no, but either advanced config for diamond tweak has an option to wake up from new sms.

ok. I turned that on now. Rebooting... and will tell what it changes. I also used batteryguard few weeks ago to control the devices at different power states BUT I did not change anything in the "sleep" state.

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A few qestions

Hi, I have a few questions regarding Raphael.
1a - I can't get the gps work. So far it worked only once. I use TomTom and usually it is searching for signal and sometimes even for gps device. Therefor I want to try different radio firmware. I had a look at wiki and there are radios with different version number. I'm not sure if those version numbers indicate exactly which radio fw is for my version of radio or if i'm free to try and flesh any Faphael radio.
1b - I have read something about 3g not working in usa or something along the lines. I have europan Raph and live in europe. Can flashing any radio fw interfere somehow with 3g?
2 - Is there a navigation software (TomTom, iGo...) which tends to work better with Raphael?
3 - How can I remove specific sms messages from main manila screen? Or they are by default all the inbox messages?
4 - Is there anyting like underclocking of the cpu to save battery life? Or does this happen automatically? I was thinking that maybe it could save some battery life if each time I turn off or lock my Raphael the cpu would underclok.
5 - SPB shell will replace manila?
6 - What happens when battery reaches 0? Will the device turn off and go to some suspend mode for a few hours or i loose everything? If it will go to suspend mode, how long can it survive like that?
7 - Is there some tool in the default device or some external software which would alow me to create profiles with different sound/ring volumes, vibrations and so on? Currently i have to mess with ring volume if i only want to turn of phone ringing but still have other sounds or I haven't find a way how to have ringing and vibration turned on at the same time.
profiles
8 - If I turn off Raph, is there a way how to turn it on with pad button? It's a bit unconvinient inconvenient to pick up the device from desk and reach for the turn on button at the top, dpad would be much better.
9 - I'm not sure if it's because of threaded messages, but for some reason some or all (not sure) messages I send are in the inbox folder. Is that ok? Can I change this so they are in sent messages?
Many thanks.
Please help with at least point 1
Bumping up the thread the last time
1a - I can't get the gps work. So far it worked only once. I use TomTom and usually it is searching for signal and sometimes even for gps device. Therefor I want to try different radio firmware. I had a look at wiki and there are radios with different version number. I'm not sure if those version numbers indicate exactly which radio fw is for my version of radio or if i'm free to try and flesh any Faphael radio.
Lots of people have GPS issues and there are tons of threads regarding it. Use the search function to figure it out.
1b - I have read something about 3g not working in usa or something along the lines. I have europan Raph and live in europe. Can flashing any radio fw interfere somehow with 3g?
3G works on At&t Branded Raph in US.
2 - Is there a navigation software (TomTom, iGo...) which tends to work better with Raphael?
3 - How can I remove specific sms messages from main manila screen? Or they are by default all the inbox messages?
Not sure what you mean.
4 - Is there anyting like underclocking of the cpu to save battery life? Or does this happen automatically? I was thinking that maybe it could save some battery life if each time I turn off or lock my Raphael the cpu would underclok.
If you are turning the power all the way down, you will not receive calls or be able to quickly use the phone but you should get around 7 days of battery. If you have the device on sleep/suspend with all radios on then you should get about 30 hours. However incoming calls and sms or emails will turn it back on and you will increase drain. Average day to day hours for me is 8 to 12.
5 - SPB shell will replace manila?
SPB Mobile Shell will not replace manilla. You would still be able to use both, if manilla is touchflo3d. I don't know what manilla is.
6 - What happens when battery reaches 0? Will the device turn off and go to some suspend mode for a few hours or i loose everything? If it will go to suspend mode, how long can it survive like that?
Device turns off and you don't lose anything that isn't saved. Sounds like the last device you owned like this was a Palm from 1992 DONT LET THE BATTERY DIE, OH NOES! haha Im just having fnu with you!
7 - Is there some tool in the default device or some external software which would alow me to create profiles with different sound/ring volumes, vibrations and so on? Currently i have to mess with ring volume if i only want to turn of phone ringing but still have other sounds or I haven't find a way how to have ringing and vibration turned on at the same time.
profiles
I thought SPB allos this but do a search there is tons of stuff regarding this.
8 - If I turn off Raph, is there a way how to turn it on with pad button? It's a bit unconvinient inconvenient to pick up the device from desk and reach for the turn on button at the top, dpad would be much better.
I have not searched for this yet but I want the answer too.
9 - I'm not sure if it's because of threaded messages, but for some reason some or all (not sure) messages I send are in the inbox folder. Is that ok? Can I change this so they are in sent messages?
Well in winmo6.1 they group messages, I notice in touchflo3d you only see incoming and not any outbound.

No email in standby...

Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
Which software are you using as your email handler?
The original software that came with the phone.. I havn't installed anything on the phone its at its original state...
jayt2008 said:
Hey all,
Recently i've been having some problems with my emails coming through to my handset. I have the settings set to send/receive every 5 minutes.. but for some reason if my screen is turned off (phone on standby) no email comes through but when i turn my screen back on the emails come.
Has anyone else has this problem? I've never had this problem before it started out of no where...
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are you using wifi or data connections? If its wifi do you have wifi enabled during standby?
i am using data...like i said if my screen is turned on theres no problems at all but its just when the screen is off in stand by mode no emails will come through..
This is a huuuuge issue which stems from the dawn of WM6. To be honest, it works sporadically for me. A few hours of no email, then a whole group arrives at a time. Sometimes it wont check by itself all day. Other times it will go 1-2 days without missing a beat. This makes it really hard to determine if what I have been doing fixes it.
Here are links to threads I have dug up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420513
^This is not a good fix imo, as it forces your data connection to be awake 24/7, killing your battery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437199&page=2
^ I am using the outlook email scheduler. Not sure if its working, or placebo. It still doesnt stick to every 30 mins, sometimes an hour late heh. At least you can have day/night settings and weekend settings. Maybe not a perfect fix, but increases email checking options.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332362
^ Many Kaiser users had/have same problem, no solution found.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445434
^Same problem, no fix in the Blackstone forum.
Thanks everyone for the help.
There has to be some kind of fix out there somewhere.. its unreliable
could try out the seven beta app
If I might make a suggestion...
Maybe you should edit the thread title to "No email in standby" as "Email..." doesn't really tell the story, more people will be likely to find it and post a solution
Problem solved with my Touch Pro
I also had this problem but I found the settings to change this. But you do need schaps advanced config 3 (and a regeditor) to make it happen. Now i always receive my email, it checks every 10 minutes, even in standby mode, with my own data connection.
With a registry editor go to:
HKLM - Comm - ConnMgr - Providers - [GUID] - Connections - [Connection Name] - Always On
and change this value from 0 to 1
(You can also change this setting with Schaps' Advanced Config under menu (right softkey) - More Settings - Connections.
Here you can select "Always On" for the type of data-connection that you use to receive your email)
The second thing is using advanced config and change the setting under power management:
- AC resuming from suspend timeout
- Battery resuming from suspend timeout
I have changed both to 60 seconds.
Now my touch pro is notifying me of new email, even in standby mode.
Good luck
^ by forcing the eternal data connection, are you not killing the battery? I think the phone should be able to connect, query, download emails, disconnect at set intervals while in standby. I think it is supposed to, but for some reason it doesn't do it reliably.
The way I have done it is to use SKSchema to watch for a data connection being connected and turn on the screen when this event happens. This wakes th ephone up and is able to download email. Then I use advance config to close inactive data connection after 10 seconds. As the phone is awake the data disconnects fine. As long as your phones screen is set not to power off quickly, mine is a minute it should be fine.
In the last day I got fed up with TF3D again and turned it off, email seems to check every 30 minutes. I'll let it go for a few days to make sure its not placebo effect.
Anybody here having this problem while manila disabled? Perhaps there is some obscure power saving setting running in the background of manila
Well i have no idea how to fix this problem.. i have played with my phone to try figure it out but nothing.
I will probably have to take rvjacobs advice and see if that works.
It looks like quite a few people are having this same problem.
Its weird.. If my phone is on standby no email comes through..but if its on standby and an SMS comes through, the screen doesnt wake but the email also comes through..
not sure whats happening there.
Mine does it with TF3D disabled also. Thats why I have to use SKSchema to turn the screen on when it detects an internet connection. This way, mail comes through fine and it also auto disconnects the data.
I can now confirm that the issue is still there, regardless of TF3D. Damn, I've tried everything, maybe this is a dead end... Maybe wm 6.5 will see a solution
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
jayt2008 said:
Thanks for that deroland! I did manage to find them in the reg but it just says "Value Data 1".. doesnt say anything like "dword:00000001"?
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Then your value is like "dword:00000001". This is a hexdecimal dword key.
So your device has one second to look for new mails.
Try to change it to "1e" and I hope it will help you.
jayt2008 said:
I am new to this whole thing so it may be a stupid mistake im making..
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The only stupid thing is that there is no open support by the manufacturers of the devices and microsoft for windows mobile. They only want to make their money ignoring the problem we have by the stuff they sell.
deroland said:
Maybe it helps you to look for/change the following key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\Timeouts]
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=dword:00000001
If you've got these values in the registry, try to cange them to
"dword:0000001e"
It's the time in seconds the device keeps running (without turning on the display) when it's automaticly woke up from the suspend mode (i.e. to look for mails). And if the value is "1", the time might be to short for picking up your emails.
With the new value you set the time up to 30 seconds.
The key exists since WM2003 and most of roms had a higher value in the past. But in the last time more and more roms come with a value of 1. I think its because the manufacturers want to get a good standby time for the devices...
I hope it works for you and you won't have to wait for WM6.5
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This is a setting which can be changed in advanced config, under power. I have mine set to 90 seconds, to no avail. I think this is what is causing it to work sporadically, as opposed to not at all.

Auto/background sync stops after battery dies

I've noticed that once phone is powered off/on after shutting down with battery dead that neither automatic sync nor background sync happens despite being ticked. I have to cycle the setting to kick it into life. Anyone else seen that?
WibblyW said:
I've noticed that once phone is powered off/on after shutting down with battery dead that neither automatic sync nor background sync happens despite being ticked. I have to cycle the setting to kick it into life. Anyone else seen that?
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Are you sure that this simply isn't they power save feature kicking in?
This can be configured using various settings from within
Settings > Power > Power save
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Power save works fine when the battery gets below 15% (in my case). The problem is it doesn't seem to come out of power save mode properly on its own when the phone has power in it again. I find the background and auto sync settings have been reticked, but they don't seem to be effective until I un-tick/re-tick them manually.
WibblyW said:
Power save works fine when the battery gets below 15% (in my case). The problem is it doesn't seem to come out of power save mode properly on its own when the phone has power in it again. I find the background and auto sync settings have been reticked, but they don't seem to be effective until I un-tick/re-tick them manually.
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Oh, must admit that I have not noticed this, although I do use tasker application to enable and then disable my various radios and sync settings based on time in order to save battery
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
This is happening on my Desire S too.
Have you found a solution as of yet?
frosticus said:
This is happening on my Desire S too.
Have you found a solution as of yet?
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Nope. There's a LOT about the Desire S that kinda half works properly. I find its implementation really kind of sloppy. Definitely NOT a phone I go round recommending to anyone.
To ben_pyett's comment I considered Tasker. Apart from the fact that there are lots of comments that some of it's functionality is broken in 2.3 because Google messed with their APIs, when I thought about it I was pricipally going to get it to try and fix/work around all the stuff that doesn't work well in the Desire S, rather than add functionaliy. E.g.
- Auto display brightness always has the brightness too high (esp in dim ambient light) and there's no way to adjust its 'gain'
- Cycling Buetooth and WiFi and GPS availability (using various strategies based on location and time) only to mitigate poor battery life in the standard product
- Getting it to out of power save mode properly
- Stopping it making the SMS received notification noise when it was just receiving a txt delivery receipt
Sadly there's other stuff Tasker can't 'fix'.
I find myself rebooting the phone manually every two or three days when it begins to exhibit weird behaviour. It might be crashing and rebooting between those times too. I used to have a SIM PIN activated, but it would prompt for that before allowing me to even get calls after a crash, so I missed important calls before I noticed it was in that state. Now with the SIM PIN disabled it might still be crashing but I don't spot it at least.
I was a Blackberry user for years, and should never have changed. At least the BB was stable and all its features seemed to work properly (and had excellent battery life even with WiFi and Bluetooth on 24/7). I though the extra Google integration with Android was attractive and would be worth it. How wrong I was. :-(

[q] Lockscreen doesn't timeout?

I'm running CM11s 33R with franco kernel r14 and Google Now Launcher. When I manually turn on my screen with the power button or double tap, to check the time for example, the screen will not go back to sleep. However if it turns on automatically because I received a text or snapchat, it will sleep if I leave it alone. Anyone else getting this issue/ have any fixes? I have screen sleep set in display settings to be after 30 seconds of inactivity so i'm wondering what the issue is. Thanks in advance.
Edit: It actually seems like my screen timeout isn't working at all, past the lock-screen, even while i'm in the actual device or an app.
Are you plugged in? In developer options, there's an option for the screen to never sleep while plugged in. If not, the answer to everything: reboot the phone!
Nope not plugged in, and i reboot multiple times on a daily basis and that hasn't fixed it.
For me, when I double tap or press the power button and leave it there, the screen will go back to sleep after 30 seconds. My old phone would turn off the screen after 5 seconds on the lockscreen. There doesn't seem to be a setting for this and it's just automatically set at 30 seconds.
i also got this problem
I got this problem also
i'm running same Stats like: CM11S 33R, test with Franco Kernel R14, Trebuchet Launcher.
If i doesnt turn my screen off by power button the screen will be stay activ anyway no-matter which settings i set on Options
jetstream131 said:
I'm running CM11s 33R with franco kernel r14 and Google Now Launcher. When I manually turn on my screen with the power button or double tap, to check the time for example, the screen will not go back to sleep. However if it turns on automatically because I received a text or snapchat, it will sleep if I leave it alone. Anyone else getting this issue/ have any fixes? I have screen sleep set in display settings to be after 30 seconds of inactivity so i'm wondering what the issue is. Thanks in advance.
Edit: It actually seems like my screen timeout isn't working at all, past the lock-screen, even while i'm in the actual device or an app.
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NatJohnny said:
I got this problem also
i'm running same Stats like: CM11S 33R, test with Franco Kernel R14, Trebuchet Launcher.
If i doesnt turn my screen off by power button the screen will be stay activ anyway no-matter which settings i set on Options
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Did you find a solution meanwhile?
I have this problem since yesterday, too.
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i also have this problem... annoying... any update?
I am also having this problem.
In my case, the screen will stay on indefinitely. I have timeout set to 30sec.
I have "Llama" app running, and configured to disable my lockscreen based on location. This could be generating some problems... But I don't think so.
Any new thoughts or fixes?
chronos00 said:
I am also having this problem.
In my case, the screen will stay on indefinitely. I have timeout set to 30sec.
I have "Llama" app running, and configured to disable my lockscreen based on location. This could be generating some problems... But I don't think so.
Any new thoughts or fixes?
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Only way to find out is disable that app or whatever it does then testing it out
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Us mate 9 oreo update kills app

I updated through the phone to oreo. Whenever my screen goes to sleep, my power amp pauses and I am not getting any of my emails, messages etc.. I've checked the settings and applied the do not kill option but it does not resolve my issue. I have tried a factory reset as well.
Mine is intermittent, but, I know sometimes flushing the system cache, along with setting the app setting to never sleep helps.
Also, I have all power saver settings disabled. (with a battery like the Mate, why bother with power savers).
Sometimes, mine still does not send notifications until after I turn the screen on. Mine did it as well with Nougat.
p51d007 said:
Mine is intermittent, but, I know sometimes flushing the system cache, along with setting the app setting to never sleep helps.
Also, I have all power saver settings disabled. (with a battery like the Mate, why bother with power savers).
Sometimes, mine still does not send notifications until after I turn the screen on. Mine did it as well with Nougat.
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I have tried setting my apps to never sleep but that did nothing for me. Power saver is also disabled.

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