Samsung Behold- Anybody here working on it? - General Questions and Answers

I was just wondering if xda was going to be getting their hands dirty with the Samsung Behold and try and get it to be open source and allow 3rd party apps.

xda is pretty much the same thing as htc, so everyone here works on htc devices. You may see some posts here and there, but 95% of the stuff you find on this board is going to be about htc devices.

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pre-purchase questions

I'm switching over from an HTC Pure (win mob 6.5). I've been watching Android and am dying to get going with it. But before making the plunge, I'm curious on the phone.
1) If HTC does not provide Android 2.4 upgrades or beyond, will the custom ROMs offering 2.4 allow the Google Marketplace to work? I ask this because the HTC Pure Android ROM doesn't offer Marketplace because of incompatibilities with a non-Android phone.
2) Will Skype work on it? I've been holding out for an HTC with a front-facing camera to do video Skype like iPhone offeres. But, that doesn't seem to ever be an option for HTC users... always a back-side camera only deal.
3) I know the Netflix isn't available for Android yet. But, does anyone have input on this CPU being on the supported list for the Netflix app that does come out?
Belongs in general. Wrong place my friend
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lrs421 is correct, moved to general as not android development
Agreed, I apologize and I thought I was on the general thread. Guess I posted on the wrong Firefox tab. Thanks for moving it to the right forum.
First of all the pure sucked so this is godsend compared to the pure. Just get and see for yourself.
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I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
crypted said:
I agree that the Pure is crap. But, what about the proposed questions above? I'm wanting to go in knowing what I'll be capable...
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Sure um well lets see...
1. Absolutely however 2.4 is a ways off and 2.3 has yet to be officially released for inspire (summer i think). In other words don't worry about it unless you intend on rooting and flashing but as far as I know most if not all roms support marketplace.
2. Skype app should work but you kind of answered your own question. Why would you attempt to video conference on a phone without a front facing camera? I had iphone 4 and hardly used facial time, it was more like "cool i can see you" and um you look exactly the same as I saw you last.
3. Yes as far as I know all snapdragon processors should be supported.
Like I said before this phone is worlds better than the pure (I had one). If you just want a phone for pure (no pun intended) functionality then get an iphone 4. But if you want a phone you can hack and customize, with tons of potential and great specs then definitely get the inspire. I hope that helps
all custom ROMs still support the marketplace with no issues. so you have nothing to worry about.
Loving this purchase! Only have one problem with the thing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998354 -- I cannot get Reminders to dismiss from the lock screen.

[Q] Boycott HTC ?

Im just wondering if anybody else is dissapointed in the way HTC has locked down the Thunderbolt ans Inc S. I have sent an email to them I suggest eveybody does the same. Whats the deal, they start selling products now and want to move away from what made them so popular. I dont get it
sanchezm94 said:
Im just wondering if anybody else is dissapointed in the way HTC has locked down the Thunderbolt ans Inc S. I have sent an email to them I suggest eveybody does the same. Whats the deal, they start selling products now and want to move away from what made them so popular. I dont get it
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You're not disappointed in the way they've tried to lock down other devices in the past? The HTC Legend is a prime example. The devices HTC created were never meant to be rooted and/or modified in the first place; hackers and devs just happen to be skilled enough to do so.
It's just like Microsoft saying "That our phone is uncrackable" and they get word a person that hacked it within a couple days of getting the phone. No product is released with the ability to do everything, that is why skilled hackers / programmers create the rooting / jail breaking software.
Well don't the Motorola Droid line and the Atrix have encrypted bootloaders? AFAIK no one have yet been able to load custom kernels on those phones. Anyway I don't think HTC have gone that far yet(until now??). If that's the case the 2x will be my next phone, especially now that Paul O'Brien seems to be making excellent progress with it.
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MaBlo said:
Well don't the Motorola Droid line and the Atrix have encrypted bootloaders? AFAIK no one have yet been able to load custom kernels on those phones. Anyway I don't think HTC have gone that far yet(until now??). If that's the case the 2x will be my next phone, especially now that Paul O'Brien seems to be making excellent progress with it.
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If HTC really did like motorola did then there will be no more HTC gadgets for me.

Cyanogen hired by Samsung

"Looks like Google wasn’t the only one getting a huge acquisition today. While they were off buying MotorolaMobility today Samsung was busy hiring yours truly — Steve Kondik (aka Cyanogen himself)."
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-mobile-hires-steve-cyanogen-kondik-20110815/
Wonder what this is going to mean for future development for CM roms.
Why would it mean anything? Do you really think Cyanogenmod is his day job? He'll keep working on it in his spare time, like he has since day 1.
Of course, even if Cyanogen had to drop out completely, CM has a whole team of people behind it, not just him.
I know it's not his day job, but it may be a conflict of interest with his new one.
v8dreaming said:
I know it's not his day job, but it may be a conflict of interest with his new one.
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Like what if they try to tell him he can't develop for other phones? Hmm...bad thoughts.
Id like to say this is a good thing for the future of CM and modding in general, but I have a bad feeling about it.
Uejji said:
Why would it mean anything? Do you really think Cyanogenmod is his day job? He'll keep working on it in his spare time, like he has since day 1.
Of course, even if Cyanogen had to drop out completely, CM has a whole team of people behind it, not just him.
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If you think for one second Samsung is going to allow him to work on CM then your smoking some crazy ****.
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jrwingate6 said:
If you think for one second Samsung is going to allow him to work on CM then your smoking some crazy ****.
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Why? Cm7 and custom roms in general are used by a tiny percentage if the phone-buying population. It's difficult to think about, but a good 95% of people that own android phones have no idea what rooting is, will never update the operating system even if an ota us pushed, and possibly don't even know their phone its android. All they know is that their phone is T-Mobile and it lets them check facebook. If they're feeling really adventurous, they might even download angry birds.
These are the kinds if people that Samsung makes its money off of.
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you all are thinking in 2D. cyanogen mod will become the "test" environment for samsung. they get free "testing" from tons of users and then they will package and deliver the final product on their phone without having to root. that would make the most sense to me so they should encourage cyanogen mod development.
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you all are thinking in 2D. cyanogen mod will become the "test" environment for samsung. they get free "testing" from tons of users and then they will package and deliver the final product on their phone without having to root. that would make the most sense to me so they should encourage cyanogen mod development.
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you just described a perfect dream.
Well, I know what company I'm buying my next phone from.
Samsung just making the right moves.
I wonder what his title is gonna be....I purpose mobile systems czar.
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ashman3000 said:
I wonder what his title is gonna be....I purpose mobile systems czar.
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Sorry meant propose, silly swype!
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sstang2006 said:
you just described a perfect dream.
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ya that would be nice. i guess we'll see how samsung behaves. they can be like redhat that offers fedora for free but then they have the enterprise version redhat that they sell. or they can be like oracle who bought our sunmicro and then pretty much ended open office. But i guess open office now diverged into libre office so its not all bad. i guess cyanogen will continue one way or another.
CyanogenMod is a self running system. Download AOSP and convert it to specific devices.
Plus he's one Guy out of a whole team. I'm sure he doesn't touch every device. I wonder if he even touched the G2x?
Although I think this is good news. Perhaps they are just working with Samsung to setup an automated system like the CM team have now... nightlies across multiple devices running the latest Google code. Just tweaked here and there.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI or CM7.1
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This wouldnt be a conflict of interest, he isn't paid by anyone for the work he does with CM. Plus recently samsung has been really buddy-buddy with the development world I highly doubt they would say hey stop working on CM..
Remember Happy Employees = Productive Employees.
Berat said:
This wouldnt be a conflict of interest, he isn't paid by anyone for the work he does with CM. Plus recently samsung has been really buddy-buddy with the development world I highly doubt they would say hey stop working on CM..
Remember Happy Employees = Productive Employees.
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http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/android-cyanogen-samsung/
"While Kondik says CyanogenMod and Samsung won’t have anything to do with one another, it’s easy to think his background in user interface tweaking and phone customization will influence Samsung’s software design. Especially after the company sent Kondik and a number of other CyanogenMod hackers free Galaxy S2 handsets well before the wide release of the phone."
player911 said:
CyanogenMod is a self running system. Download AOSP and convert it to specific devices.
Plus he's one Guy out of a whole team. I'm sure he doesn't touch every device. I wonder if he even touched the G2x?
Although I think this is good news. Perhaps they are just working with Samsung to setup an automated system like the CM team have now... nightlies across multiple devices running the latest Google code. Just tweaked here and there.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI or CM7.1
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver/Custom Kernel
www.SnapSiteAdmins.com
www.MiiWiiChat.com
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Cyanogen used to own a g2x.
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Especially after the company sent Kondik and a number of other CyanogenMod hackers free Galaxy S2 handsets well before the wide release of the phone."
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Well that settles it, Samsung clearly cares about its reputation with advanced users, and shutting down cm7 is about as hostile as it's possible to be.
This is going to work out great.
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Too bad Samsung sucks donkey balls as far as support and continued updates go.... Cyanogen was the guy that helped the companies like Samsung because they never provided continued support for their devices. Hopefully Cyanogen helps them improve their quality, but if not I hope he doesn't do it for free on the side.
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Too bad Samsung sucks donkey balls as far as support and continued updates go.... Cyanogen was the guy that helped the companies like Samsung because they never provided continued support for their devices. Hopefully Cyanogen helps them improve their quality, but if not I hope he doesn't do it for free on the side.
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I understand the hate towards Samsung during its Behold II days but since then it has gotten better and better until they became the most innovative Android manufacture recently. Their processors continue to own the competition. Everyone wants to get a hold of their displays and NAND memory and every single itteration of TW has gotten less and less intrusive. Their most recent flagship phone, the GSII has already received numerous updates. I don't know what type of update tine frame you would like our phones to get but quite frankly, all update timeframes suck if you buy a US branded phone. If you want to blame someone for our updates then blame our carriers. Updates over seas come out in a timely fassion. The European Sensation has already received 2 but the US Sensation hasn't received one.
So I ask you. What company in your opinion is good with updates and why?
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So I ask you. What company in your opinion is good with updates and why?
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google, because they actually send them out in a timely fashion.
sorry its the only ones i truest anymore, ill likely only go pure nexus branded phone from here out.
you can thank samsung and lg for that.

Sense UI for Galaxy Note!?

Hey guys..
So while googling for "Sense UI on Galaxy Note" I came across this..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217752
Is something like this possible on our note? The hardware and software are very similar on both S2 and Note so shouldn't be much of a problem to port something like this to the GN, right?
Wondering what devs have to say about this.. I am quite sure there are more people and am not the only one who would like to try out sense on our GN.. Nothing wrong with choices!
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You should probably have read the forum, it was a work in progress and it did not work out, and the last post is the moderator closing that forum. I doubt we will ever see sense on our devices.
:/ read the last posts now.. I wish there could be something like this.. :/
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how i wish i could have this is my note too
There is a working build of Sense on the Galaxy Nexus fyi. Porting other manufacturers roms is a very difficult procedure from what I've seen. Only porting roms across a manufacturers devices seems much more easier e.g. HTC One series to HTC Sensation.
kotaro_14 said:
There is a working build of Sense on the Galaxy Nexus fyi. Porting other manufacturers roms is a very difficult procedure from what I've seen. Only porting roms across a manufacturers devices seems much more easier e.g. HTC One series to HTC Sensation.
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Yeah I understand that. Still, sometimes I feel like getting a HD2. Wish there could be a phone with the specs of GN (screen basically ) that comes with all the OSes pre installed. Now THAT would be fun.
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Porting and developing the Sense UI should be technically possible. However I think you will find the main problem being that Sense UI is protected by HTC copyrights which they enforce as soon as HTC software is moved to non-HTC devices. This would I believe mean that if it was developed it would not be allowed on XDA Forums as this is not a pirate site. ( I might be wrong )
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Porting and developing the Sense UI should be technically possible. However I think you will find the main problem being that Sense UI is protected by HTC copyrights which they enforce as soon as HTC software is moved to non-HTC devices. This would I believe mean that if it was developed it would not be allowed on XDA Forums as this is not a pirate site. ( I might be wrong )
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Adding to that, I think the devs could be in trouble too for developing it, whether or not it's on XDA or anywhere.
sujal said:
Adding to that, I think the devs could be in trouble too for developing it, whether or not it's on XDA or anywhere.
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Doubt it. Dell Streak 5 has a "working" port of Sense 3 UI
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113141
(I use the term working loosely as Dell never released drivers for the Streak 5)
Anyway, if you are really determined, you could ask the OP Spidla.

1 Samsung Focus, 2 Questions

Hello, Xda-Developers forum
I am new here, but here goes..
Alright, I hate asking about this phone here, but I have the Samsung Focus (1.3), bought it from a friend for $12, So it was a pretty well investment on my part, BUT I'm into messing around with things, and I've recently installed Magldr (2.00) and flashed the Windows 7.8 Phone OS to it, BUT I had a very notorious question about it.
Question # 1)
Is it possible to find a rom, or even make a rom to put Android on this Phone?
Any Android version is fine with me as well. I just want to see what all I can do if I wanted with this phone.
Question # 2)
I can't seem to find very many roms just by googling them for this phone. Does anyone know anywhere I should actually look?
Regards,
Lemonboi5
I found this.. don't know much about WP7 and hacking, had a focus myself at one point but didn't do much with it before I sold it to a friend
http://www.landofdroid.com/2011/sam...ing-magldr-could-this-open-up-more-to-follow/
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Thanks gagdude,
I've seen that page before, but I was wondering if anything has been done with it since haha. I would love to see android on this phone, As the specs would fully back it xD
Hmmm... also found this
http://www.ehow.com/how_12191756_run-android-samsung-focus.html
Not sure if its real or not
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Thanks again,
but yeah It's not actually for samsung focus wp7
It's for Windows Mobile phones

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